The Cardinals have made clear their intention to pursue plenty of pitching help as they attempt to return to contention in 2024. While the deep class of pitchers set to be available provides the club with ample opportunities to dip into free agency, it’s no secret that the Cardinals have an excess of outfield talent. Each of Lars Nootbaar, Jordan Walker, Dylan Carlson, and Tyler O’Neill play the outfield exclusively for St. Louis, while multi-positional options Brendan Donovan and Tommy Edman saw plenty of time in the outfield as well during the 2023 campaign.
That led the Cardinals to field trade offers on their glut of outfield talent at the trade deadline, though none of their position players ultimately ended up moving besides pending free agent shortstop Paul DeJong. Those talks could begin anew this coming offseason, allowing the Cardinals to explore the trade market for potential pitching additions. Walker and Nootbaar were both regarded as essentially untouchable at the deadline, and it seems likely that they’ll be similarly protected from trade talks this offseason. That being said, each of Carlson, O’Neill, Edman, and Donovan found their names in the rumor mill this past season. Let’s take a look at each of them:
Dylan Carlson (0.2 fWAR in 2023)
Carlson, who celebrated his 25th birthday earlier this week, is coming off a major down season in 2023 where he slashed just .219/.318/.333 in 255 plate appearances. Despite those brutal numbers, Carlson reportedly received interest from multiple clubs at the trade deadline, including the Yankees and Orioles. As a young switch-hitter who was once a consensus top-20 prospect in the sport and is under team control through the 2026 campaign, Carlson could once again be a sought-after change of scenery candidate. That being said, his value is likely at an all time low after undergoing ankle surgery in September (though he’s expected to be ready for Spring Training) and posting the worst offensive season of his career in 2023. Given Carlson’s remaining team control, it’s possible the Cardinals would be better off holding onto their former top prospect in hopes he can rebound in 2024 and improve his stock. On the other hand, another difficult season for Carlson in 2024 could squander whatever remaining interest clubs have in prying him away from St. Louis.
Tyler O’Neill (0.8 fWAR in 2023)
Much like Carlson, O’Neill is also coming off something of a down season, having slashed just .231/.312/.403 in 266 trips to the plate in 2023. As uninspiring as those numbers may be, O’Neill is just two seasons removed from a sensational 2021 campaign that saw him slash .286/.352/.560 with a 143 wRC+ and 5.5 fWAR in 138 games. What’s more, O’Neill posted the lowest strikeout rate of his career in 2023, with a 25.2% strikeout rate. If O’Neill can find a way to balance the power he flashed in 2021 with his improved plate discipline in 2023, he could be an impactful offensive player for just about any club. That being said, with just one year of team control remaining before O’Neill hits free agency, he would likely generate the smallest return package of any of the players listed here. With contention in 2024 uncertain, it’s easy to make the argument that the Cardinals would be wise to deal O’Neill while they still can, though it’s also fair to wonder if they’d be selling too low on a player with an exciting offensive ceiling.
Brendan Donovan (2.1 fWAR in 2023)
Donovan, 26, made good on a strong rookie campaign during his sophomore season, slashing .284/.365/.422 while flashing improved power numbers in 371 trips to the plate. Donovan underwent season-ending surgery on the day of the trade deadline this year after being relegated to DH-only duties for much of the season thanks to a flexor tendon injury. Fortunately, Donovan is expected to be ready Spring Training in 2024 and, when healthy, is a premiere utility option who would be of interest to virtually any club. To this point in his career, Donovan has logged time at all four infield spots and both outfield corners. Between his versatility, solid bat, and the fact that he’s not yet even eligible for arbitration, Donovan is easily the most attractive trade candidate on this list who would deliver the strongest return, though it would be a major loss for the Cardinals offense if the club parted with a player of Donovan’s caliber.
Tommy Edman (2.3 fWAR in 2023)
Perhaps the most surprising candidate to appear on this list, Edman came into the 2023 campaign having spent the overwhelming majority of his career on the infield dirt as a shortstop and second baseman. That changed this season, however, as Edman split his time between second base, shortstop, and center field, taking his role in center quite well. While Edman slashed just .248/.307/.399 (92 wRC+) in 137 games with the club this year, his quality defense at three up the middle positions and roughly league average switch-hitting bat would make him an attractive trade candidate for virtually any team. Edman is controlled through the 2025 campaign, giving him more value on the trade market than a rental bat like O’Neill even as he doesn’t come with the same extensive team control as Carlson or Donovan.
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With the Cardinals looking to completely revamp their pitching staff in 2023, it would be a shock if the club didn’t at least look into dealing from its surplus of outfield depth while they attempt to return to contention following a 91-loss season. If they do move on from one of the aforementioned players, which should they look to deal? O’Neill or Carlson departing likely wouldn’t set the 2024 club back very much on offense, though they presumably wouldn’t garner a very significant return as the club looks to add big league-ready pitching options. On the other hand, the club would be far more likely to land a bona fide rotation-caliber arm if they dealt Donovan or Edman, but the 2024 team’s positional group would take a far more significant step back in losing either player’s versatility.
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I keep hearing about this Cardinals log jam of outfielders. What am I missing? I see a bunch of platoon and 4th and 5th outfielder types and a DH. Since when is mediocre a log jam?
When they have 5 outfielders and 2 good starting pitchers.
TFDI
“What am I missing? I see a bunch of platoon and 4th and 5th outfielder types and a DH. Since when is mediocre a log jam?”
That those players still have some value
Not much value, the Cardinals and their fans seem to be the only ones that see value
TFFI
“Not much value” is still value
I see Cardinals fans saying they aren’t worth much but still need to go.
But not much value which matters here.
A’s asked for one of their outfielders for Sean Murphy and was turned down. He went onto Braves and had another good season. That is why you don’t hang onto them too long when you can fill a big hole in your lineup.
They wanted Nootbaar and Donavan and 2 more players that’s a lot to be giving up for a young catcher and Herrara in the wings still. We went with Contreras. Mo also had the potential to pull off a great trade or two he did well at deadline but has done great when you see what arenado and goldy trades he’s done.
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“But not much value which matters here”
Right
What matters is that they have some value, and it’s up to the team to maximize that value
Nootbaar has significant value. So it’s having guys like him in the fold that make the rest part of a logjam even if those others don’t have a lot of value.
The fact they aren’t “worth much” tells us quite a bit, actually. That means they’re not good, nothing special, so they shouldn’t be and won’t be missed. Adding more poo to the poo pile of players is not the kind of “depth” contending teams should want to have, but for some reason, the Cardinals organization tends to believe it makes them seem more impressive.
I see more than 2x as many voters are wanting T.O. to be traded instead of Dylan Carlson, but I have to wonder what those voters think the Cardinals would get in return for a guy who has proven repeatedly he cannot stay healthy. Carlson should be moved because he offers the best return (of the 2 players mentioned) but T.O. should be sent packing, too, if the return is right. The Cardinals could trade both players but never miss a beat. I know I wouldn’t care.
They should have made a counter offer. The A’s are either stupid or just enjoy helping out the Braves because they asked for the moon from the Cards then traded him for a horrible return.
That sequence of events still baffles me. I would love to know what really to place behind closed doors. All I know for sure is that the A’s and Cardinals managed to get taken advantage of by the Braves and Brewers.
Contreras had the 3rd highest GP, 2nd highest PA/BA totals of his 8 year career (so far) with 20 HR/67 RBI/.264 BA, all of which are solid statistics, in my opinion. He “catches” heat from different directions, not only because Yadi retired, but also because most of us hoped to have Murphy instead of him. Plus, he’s a former Cub, another knock to his image. I wonder how often he’ll be the scapegoat again this season.
RE: d43
“The fact they aren’t “worth much” tells us quite a bit, actually. That means they’re not good, nothing special, so they shouldn’t be and won’t be missed. Adding more poo to the poo pile of players is not the kind of “depth” contending teams should want to have, but for some reason, the Cardinals organization tends to believe it makes them seem more impressive.”
Oh
This kind of casual fan to thinks players are “poo” isn’t interesting to interact with except to toy with a bit before getting bored.
* again this season (tried to edit but it didn’t work, sorry grammar troopers)
A’s wanted Nootbar, who is young, had a good 2023, is cheap, talented and has a ton of upside.
Nootbar wasn’t on the list of potential guys to move (like Walker wasn’t mentioned), because those two guys are very probably going to have starting jobs in the outfield, unless they are traded, which is very unlikely.
Tyler won’t give us much value, but we would be trading from a position of strength (pun intended) and pretty much everyone has had enough of O’Neil not being able to stay on the field because of his weight-training compulsion.
That said, he seems to MAYBE, hopefully have gotten the message that training like a bodybuilder doesn’t give you a baseball body. So, even though his bulkiness shrank a little last year, he got hurt again, so it was probably too little, too late.
He’ll probably get traded, lose 20 more pounds of muscle, learn to stretch and go hit 35 dingers for someone and win a gold glove.
For us, trading him will be an addition by subtraction, unfortunately.
Sigh.
RE diggin4three
Nothing says I don’t care what you think about me like a screed involving a person’s life store.
Baseball has been ruined by players being fairly compensated for their work? Oh! The horrors!
And saying that players who are in the top 1% of players in the world “suck”
Completed the trifecta.
you are missing
< you are missing
Don Osborne, what's missing is the Cardinals ability to get stuff outta guys? Help them reach that ceiling? They were at the apex of this from 2000-2015 then something jumped off a cliff chasing a thrill or something? And uhhh Humpty Dumpty hasn't been the same….
The Curse of the Ghost of Oscar Taveras rears its beautiful head again! Around the time he hit that last major league home run in 2014? El Bombi = ‘both of them’
RIP you Curse setting Legend
Gives me chills even talking about it… goes back to 04…. imma log out now
Babe Ruth was 53 years old when he died the curse of the great bambino lasted 86 years broken right here in st louis… october 04… Ruth was traded for cash to New York on January 5th 1920… 100 years and 4 days later Mozeliak deals Randy Arozarena to the Rays…. in the same subsequent off season sold Adolis Garcia to the Texas Rangers for Cash Considerations….
El Bombi wears number 53… both Arozarena and Garcia won ALCS MVP in historic fashion…
Do I need to say more?
Boston Won the series on October 27 2004 Oscar Taveras hit his last home run October 12th before dying on October 26th 2014… what’s that saying? Times a flat circle? RIP LEGEND
100 years and 4 days later…. January 9th 2020…. 9 years and 364 days later
R.I.P.
O.T. 18
E.T. phone home….
Who answered? Bruce Bochy? Of course
What is wrong with you??
I hate several of the moves this front office has made, but all of THAT reads like someone that needs to take a step away, in all seriousness
For some reason, Oliver Marmol wants all platoon players. Has Tyler O’Neill asked to be traded? Paul Goldschmidt and Nolan Arenado should ask to be traded. There’s plenty old broken down players for exchange.
I’m one of the fans who wished Goldschmidt and Arenado would’ve been traded before the deadline last season, and still wishes both of them would traded now. If I had DeWitt’s authority, Mo and Marmol would’ve been shown the door and a full-blown rebuild would’ve started, minus a few of the players StL has actually worth keeping.
hear hear
3 out fielders, 2 corner infielders and 3 middle infielders = outfield logjam.
TigerFanFromIndiana — Completely agree. Ever since they came up Carlson and O’Neil have been hyped but haven’t really produced. I like Edman, Cards may not want to trade Walker or Nootbar, but those are the only trade baits that have sizzle.
O’Neill has won 1 GGs and was 8th in MVP voting in 2021. He really has shown he can produce if he can stay healthy. Carlson was 3rd in ROY voting and had a very fine season in 2021. Yes O’Neill hasn’t been healthy consistently since and Carlson hasn’t produced like that since, but the notion they haven’t produced is simply false.
Tigers3232 — You’re cherry picking the past. Neither is a very interesting player.
PV
“Neither is a very interesting player”
Interest is 100% subjective
Your lack of interest/curiosity/intellectual engagement doesn’t limit anyone else’s. Thankfully
@Pete, you said they haven’t produced. I pointed out where they in fact have. I also noted some issues with the 2 O’Neill-health and Carlson-regression or slumping. I don’t really care about whether they are interested, again I pointed out when they produced which you had claimed they haven’t. Which happens to be completely false. I did not write history it is what it is.
Tigers
“you said they haven’t produced. I pointed out where they in fact have. I also noted some issues with the 2 O’Neill-health and Carlson-regression or slumping. I don’t really care about whether they are interested, again I pointed out when they produced which you had claimed they haven’t. Which happens to be completely false. I did not write history it is what it is.”
Yep. 109%
Typical Internet argument
Person says one thing. They are shown that that thing is incorrect. They respond with a different thing.
It’s not a good sign that people can’t remember their own arguments
You know what I meant, and didn’t respond to the fact that Tigers3232 was cherry picking their value. They wouldn’t upgrade many teams rosters.
Tiger 3232 — My point was that we can always find—with most players—something that was positive. However, it’s the players who can stay healthy and produce offensively (and defensively) consistently that are valuable..
I have no hatred for either player. I just think they’re ho-hum players that I wouldn’t want on my team.
I did not cherry pick anything. You said they haven’t really produced. They both have in fact produced at the MLB level. That is not cherry picking, that is reality.
Look at their careers so far, not just the one good year. That’s cherry picking.
PV
No. That’s not cherry picking any more than pointing out bad seasons is
Saying that a player has had a disappointing career do far and that they’ve had good seasons is not in opposition to each other. Not everything has to be a fight.
No fight intended. Just two fans voicing their opinions. Peace.
Walker is the only decent one of that bunch and he’s a converted 3B being asked to play the OF You take away Goldschmidt and Arenado what you have is the cardinals as a 100 loss team..
Take the top two offensive players off any team and they will struggle mightily. So what’s your point?
Walker was drafted out of HS where he pitched and played 3B. Many players even coming out of college end up playing a different position when they hit MiLB, let alone college players.
I just have a hard time marrying a player to a position from when they come out of the draft.
When they get traded and become Randy Arozarena and Adolis Garcia overnight
You think Nootbar is a 4th/5th outfielder? Lmao
I think this has been the same poll question reiterated for the last three off-seasons and the last two trade deadlines.
Karl Hungus.
He’s here to fix deine regional sports network.
Sa log jam of mediocrity?
Also see
Adolis Garcia
Randy Arozarena
Lane Thomas
Tommy Pham
Depends upon the return. Several would be traded at low points, limiting value. Donovan will get the best return.
The Orioles were trying to trade for Carlson at the trade deadline? In what sense. They had Mullins, Hays, Santander and Hicks in the majors and Cowser, Kjerstad and Stowers in AAA. At most, Carlson would have been a AAA replacement. Like if the Cardinals wanted Norby instead of Cesar Prieto in the actual trade for Flaherty, the Cardinals would have thrown in Carlson.
Only thing that would make sense is dealing Mullins or Santander for pitching to open the door for an OF.
Another poll!!??
Why are MLB GMs asking us to do
their jobs for them?
I couldn’t vote. Those 4 guys might command a guy you would otherwise worry about losing in the Rule 5.
Nootbaar
Nope.
Nope
Yarp.
Royals could use one of these bums
Question marks? Cardinals best outside the ones people want are burleson. The rest of the log jam is not a log jam, just a few average players that people want to dream on being more… even when they’re not. Remember when Carlson was going to be a Soto headliner, but the cardinals were reluctant? If they could coax a 4 starter outta anyone, huge win.
Trade O’Neil and Carlson for what ever arms you can get, even if they are low level lottery tickets. Both are on the bad side of Marmol and will never be anything with the Cardinals.
Other than that, minor leagers are the only players that should traded. My preference is to buy starters this year. I’d rather wait for more pitching than to trade young very necessary position players for starters. I’d be much more inclined to move Goldschmidt and Arenado than destroy both the present and the future by trading the young core developing on this team. The Cardinals won’t win this year by subtracting offense to get pitching.
How about getting Manoah from the Blue Jays for either O’Neill or Carlson? A change of scenery might be what Manoah needs.
That’s fair. All three players need a change in my opinion
I have a hard time imagining a slum like St. Louis (Missouri in general) might be the “change” anyone with serious money would ever need in their life. Not to mention, who really wants to be managed by Marmol, and the Cards’ coaching staff can’t “fix” anyone.
dig, St. Louis certainly has issues, but big league ballplayers can live anywhere they want in or near a city. (I’m curious what paradise you live in.)
And maybe the org can offer a change in coaching philosophy that would click with a player.
Disagree Manoah just showed himself working hard in the gym recently. I wouldn’t trade a guy 1 year removed from a cy young contender for any of those guys.
Problem is that games aren’t played in the gym, they are played on the field. Manoah on the field in 2023 was just not good. The Jays would be smart to move him now while people still remember his career year before he becomes the next Ricky Romero.
Problem with the Jays trading Manoah is the Jays need Manoah as he’s the 5th starter. Doubt they’ll want to spend on his replacement. On-paper, Cards/Jays trade fits.
5th starters are not hard to find at least not in the offseason.
5th starters in pre-arb are, HiFlew.
No they aren’t. They are called minor league free agents.
Minor League free agents when you’re not contending. Jays aren’t rebuilding. Jays depth beyond Manoah is non-existent, and they’re not taking the minor league free agent route.
It’s not a black and white situation. There are diamonds to be found with minor league FAs too. Any GM that doesn’t do his due diligence in every possible arena of improvement is just foolish.
For depth yes. For a solution highly unlikely. “Black or white situation”. No, you’ve taken a BS situation and tried turning it into a logical solution where it isn’t warranted. Manoah is the 5th, and any minor league FA is nothing more than a depth move. Because they need more depth, not to give up a pitcher you need.
There is no such thing as a 5th starter that is a “solution.” Fifth starters are pretty much always going to be depth options because they aren’t really needed to be much more than depth.
If you are looking up and down your roster and the worst problem you find is the 5th starter, I don’t think you really need to complain that much.
No way would Jays trade Manoah for both of them let alone either one of them alone.
No way the Jays would trade Moreno and Gurr…wait, they did.
In their defense on that one Gurriel was streaky often while with Jays. Varsho had the bigger name and gaudy power #s. That trade seemed risky but had potential both ways. Obviously it went better than expected for DBacks. And for Jays went pretty bad, not only did Varsho regress but Kirk did as well at C. So both Gurriel and Moreno became missed.
As for Manoah, he’d fetch alot more than that from someone else and likely pieces that would fit better.
In their defense, there is no defending dealing the most untouchable player since Vlad/Bo in Moreno. For a player who’s name was big in nerd country only. Varsho had significant holes in his game. Still does and didn’t improve.
Jansen was the guy to deal. Injury prone, costs more.
Trade Marmol. For a dead rat. Hes pissed enough players off.
Or even Lane Thomas…
Or even Lane Myer…
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on one ski
I want my 2 dollars!
Somewhere John Cusak just smiled and he has no idea why……?
Truly a sight to behold. A man, beaten. The once-great champ, now, a study in moppishness. No longer the victory-hungry stallion we’ve raced so many times before, but a pathetic, washed up, aged ex-champion.
It’s an awesome spectacle. An audacious display of seething opponents, once again parallel in an obstinate attempt to prove the superiority of the roads unequaled in our lifetime. The crowds swell in anticipation as the light turns green!
Kikuchi for O’Neill or Manoah plus plus for Donovan
Add a couple of prospects to Carlson or Oneill and get a decent starting pitcher.
From whom? You have to have an interested team before you can just make a trade.
What are you talking about? I just press the Y button to force the trade to happen.
The same team that refused to part with some of these scrubs in potential trades for Juan Soto and later for Sean Murphy? lol cardinals
O’Neil is always hurt so he should go but what are you going to get for a guy who never plays? And if you think you’re trading position players for P’s you’ll get nowhere fast. You can trade a good P for 3 position guys but it doesn’t play the other way around.
O’Neill is a one-season lottery pick for some team. Nothing more, nothing less.
Either way, he’s got to go. I don’t care what they get in return.
They aren’t getting much for Carlson or ONeill. They still need to go if for no other reason than Marmol doesn’t want them.
Ah yes, Marmol doesn’t believe O’Neill doesn’t hustle enough. I’m not sure what Carlson did to get on Marmol’s bad side, but if he’s on his list then yes he should be moved this offseason.
Carlson will become a fourth outfielder for now. He’s cheap, under club control, has negligible trade value and MAYBE he’ll turn it around.
Either way, with a new ankle surgery, the Cards are in a position to do another wait-and-see with him.
If it works out, awesome, if not, the team has already positioned itself to move on, so there no downside, at this point.
He’s a cheap lottery ticket.
If it doesn’t play the other way around, then how does the team giving up three position guys get the one good P?
The Cardinals have an embarrassment of riches in the outfield! And by riches I mean mediocrity.
Unanswerable
Depends on the return and the Cardinals’ valuation of their other players
And more
They got rid of Adolis Garcia & traded Randy Arozarena for spare parts, but somehow guys like Lars Nootbar and Tommy Edman are “untouchable”.
Here we go with the hindsight of Cardinals fans.
NO ONE knew anything about Adolis Garcia when he was dealt. He was a DFA guy that was dealt for cash. He was also DFA’d by Texas in Spring Training 2021, two years after they got him for St Louis, but no other team claimed him. Stop crying about him.
With Arozarena, most Cardinals fans on here were THRILLED by the deal of trading a “superfluous outfielder” for a top pitching prospect like Liberatore. Seriously, just go back and look through the comments.
mlbtraderumors.com/2020/01/rays-acquire-jose-marti…
Wait til the deadline imo. More than likely they’ll need the depth to cover an injury. Maybe they’re in the hunt. Maybe one or two will rebuild some value
Dodgers could give up a young starting pitcher for Tommy edman
Giants too.
Edman will be holding center for Victor Scott and serving as insurance in case Winn doesn’t step up. Trading him now would be a huge mistake.
I’ve been saying this since last off-season. It’s just too reasonable, though. It likely won’t happen
@standuptriple; I agree on acquiring Edman but, along with Arenado. It should be doable.
O’Neill should have been gone a long time ago. But move him now. Nootbaar, Carlson, Walker in the OF. Donovan will start the season as DH after elbow surgery, once healthy he can be platoon letting whoever he’s playing for that day DH. Edman will be the SS or traded too and Winn at SS.
Arozorena was traded because of Social media post that embarrassed the manager they fired.
Move O’Neill and Carlson and get Victor Scott up in center. Their performance in 2023 has warranted some aggressive callups in my opinion
Tyler O’Neill is going to look great in pinstripes.
Yes he’d be a great IL platoon with Judge and Stanton. He’s got a lot of experience in that aspect of the game.
O’Neill and Carlson would fit the Jays need for two OFs (presuming Springer DH’es more). Then the Jays can focus on landing a 3B. If the Jays felt Orelvis Martinez was that guy they would have had him play more than 305 innings at 3B in 2023. That number should have been tripled.
Don’t care what they do until Marmol is gone. Actually, that’s kind of a lie, but I can pretend.
Anyway, Edman is probably the one that gets moved, it makes the most sense, even though I don’t like it.
I just have no faith in our coaching staff whatsoever.
This is easy, you trade Edmans, you try to trade Tyler O’Neil (or non-tender him).
Go with Nootbar, Carlson, Walker with Donovan as the utility guy.
You’re welcome Cardinal fans
Should’ve moved Goldie & Arenado when they had the chance. Edam to SS, and Walker to 1st, end of gridlock. Spend the $61M you save on pitching.
Dead on. But this just proves that the front office has no idea how to fix the problem it created. None at all. Mo is a pure politician. He thinks in terms of approval ratings not winning percentage. If he thought he could talk Waino in to coming back for one more, he’d do it. This mess isn’t going to be fixed by this front office.
Cards will have a lot to do this winter, right now they are last in the central, trading these outfielder isn’t going to change their outcome..
Actually they are tied for 1st in the central at this point.
You realize Texas put Garcia on waivers in 2/2021 and no team claimed him correct? Garcia then was able to return to the Rangers.
I wouldn’t mind seeing Nootbar & Carlson come to Seattle, as we’ve got an endless stream of young, quality, controllable pitchers to dangle.
We wouldn’t let Nootbar go in a trade for Sean Murphy, so if Nootbar gets moved it’s for a stud reliever or packaged for a legit starter.
We love the guy, so it’s gonna take something really solid to let him go.
The Cards picked up lottery ticket prospects at the 2023 trade deadline and got a nice haul for our rentals. Now the Redbirds are shopping for game-ready, high-value pitching assets.
If the Mariners agreed to send the Cardinals some money to help pay the remainder of the Robbie Ray contact, the Cardinals could trade O’Neiill for Ray. The Mariners management likely regrets the Ray contact because of his 2022 performance and because he missed virtually all of the 2023 season. The Mariners now have several young starting pitchers, and probably want to move on from the Ray contact if they can find a taker. The Mariners would be a good change of scenery for O’Neill, who is a Canadian from nearby Vancouver, BC. Once Ray recovers from his surgery, he could benefit going to the Cardinals to get his career back on track.
Teams should probably be asking about Ritchie Palacios. He played better than O’Neill.
Do I remember this correctly? When the Cardinals had a similar outfield glut a few years ago, the traded Adolis García for just about nothing. This outfield glut, so-called, features a bunch of underwhelming performers. That said, whoever they trade will no doubt become a star for somebody else!!!!
You Cardinals posters are pretty funny, made me laugh this cold Sunday night.
I’m catching this late, but I don’t see a logjam.
With the pitching staff full of holes, they might be better off trying to move Arenado and Goldy for controllable pitching, move Walker back to 3B, try to deploy Gorman at 1B, which would mean considerable offseason work that would need to start immediately, and keep Donovan & Edman up the middle. It would also leave plenty of PAs for the current crop of actual outfielders as outfielders.
This kind of shake-up could be exactly what the team needs, even if it takes a year or two for players to settle in.
I realize the central isn’t he strongest division, but the Reds and Cubs are on the rise. The Brewers have fewer holes and some great prospects getting close to their debuts. St. Louis should probably be looking to shed salary and regroup for 2025-2026.
“Fortunately, Donovan is expected to be ready Spring Training in 2024 and, when healthy, is a premiere utility option who would be of interest to virtually any club.”
Commas should never be after “and” in these situations. That one is not even necessary in the sentence.
“Fortunately, Donovan is expected to be ready Spring Training in 2024 and when healthy, is a premiere utility option who would be of interest to virtually any club.”
That Deeds moron used the wrong “premier” too, unless he’s saying that Donovan is a theatrical production…