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Mets Showing Interest In Various Starting Pitchers

By Darragh McDonald | January 5, 2024 at 1:14pm CDT

The Mets are interested in rotation upgrades and appear to be casting a wide net in that search. Jon Heyman of The New York Post lists Hyun Jin Ryu, Sean Manaea and Shota Imanaga as pitchers they are considering. A report from Joel Sherman of The New York Post echoes those names while also adding Dylan Cease and Brandon Woodruff to the list.

The club has already made a couple of moves to bolster a rotation that has changed a lot in the past year. Max Scherzer and Justin Verlander were traded at last year’s deadline, then Carlos Carrasco reached free agency. The depth also took a hit when it was reported that David Peterson required hip surgery that would prevent him from being with the club at the start of the upcoming season.

That left Kodai Senga and José Quintana as the two leading incumbents at the start of the offseason, with pitchers like Tylor Megill and Joey Lucchesi also on hand as options. The Mets have signed since Luis Severino to a one-year deal and acquired Adrian Houser in a trade with the Brewers. Those two likely push Megill and Lucchesi into a battle for the fifth spot in the rotation, but Sherman relays that the club would like to add one more arm and push those two further into depth roles. Both pitchers are still optionable and don’t need to be on the active roster if the pitching staff if strengthened.

New president of baseball operations David Stearns is plenty familiar with Woodruff from his time in Milwaukee. He would be more of a long-term play though, unlikely to help the 2024 club too much. He underwent shoulder surgery in October and is slated to miss most of the upcoming campaign, which led the Brewers to non-tender him. But with the Mets looking at 2024 as a sort of transition year with an eye towards more aggressive contention in 2025, perhaps the two sides can line up on some kind of two-year deal. That would allow Woodruff to bank some money while rehabbing and then give the Mets the upside of bolstering their club next year.

If Woodruff can overcome his shoulder woes and return to his previous form, he would upgrade any rotation in the league. He has a career earned run average of 3.10 in 680 1/3 innings dating back to his 2017 debut. He has struck out 28.9% of batters faced in that time while walking just 6.5% of them and keeping 42.8% of balls in play on the ground. Health has been a bit of an ongoing issue, as he’s never been able to throw 180 innings in a big league season, but the results on a rate basis have clearly been excellent.

As for Cease, his ERA flared up to 4.58 in 2023 but his peripherals were still above average, including a 27.3% strikeout rate and 13.6% swinging strike rate. Over the past three years, he has made 97 starts with a 3.54 ERA and 29.8% strikeout rate. He tallied 12.6 wins above replacement over those three seasons, according to FanGraphs, which puts him eighth on the pitching leaderboard for that stretch.

He’s projected by MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz for a salary of $8.8MM this year and will be due one more raise before becoming a free agent after 2025. That means he will be paid way less than a pitcher of similar skill who is looking for a free agent deal, but it also means the White Sox are setting a very high asking price. It was reported last month that they asked the Reds for four of that club’s top prospects in exchange for Cease. The Reds seem to have given up on the pursuit, signing Frankie Montas instead.

For the Mets, giving up a significant prospect package like that would be a surprise. They have been open about their desire to build a strong prospect pipeline in order to ensure continuous contention and have been even more focused on the long-term plan this offseason. Though Sherman says the Mets continue to check in with the White Sox, the Mets aren’t considered as likely to land him as a team flush with prospects like the Orioles.

Ryu, 37 in March, would line up with the club’s offseason M.O., as they have given out one-year deals to Severino, Harrison Bader, Joey Wendle, Jorge López, Austin Adams and Michael Tonkin. It appears to be a strategy of spreading money around and improving depth while not committing any future money. It’s also possible that any player in this batch who plays well will end up on the trading block if the Mets are out of contention a few months from now.

Given Ryu’s age and recent health history, he is likely looking at a one-year deal as well. He missed most of 2022 recovering from Tommy John surgery, though he did return last year and toss 52 innings for the Blue Jays with a 3.46 ERA. His 17% strikeout rate was below average but he limited walks to a 6.3% rate and kept 45.6% of balls in play on the ground. He may have been a bit lucky to keep as many runs from scoring as he did, given his .272 batting average on balls in play and 77.6% strand rate. ERA estimators such as his 4.91 FIP and 4.69 SIERA weren’t as enthused with his performance. On the other hand, perhaps he could shake off some more rust and have better results this year now that he’s further removed from his surgery. As recently as 2020, he finished in the top three in American League Cy Young voting.

Manaea, 32 in February, is coming off a couple of shaky years in terms of results. He has been a solid mid-rotation option in his career but his ERA jumped to 4.96 in 2022 and was at 4.44 last year. Digging into his most recent campaign provides more reason for optimism, something recently explored here at MLBTR. Notably, Manaea added a sweeper to his arsenal in late May and had significantly better results, 6.61 ERA before and 3.60 ERA after adding that pitch. At the start of the offseason, MLBTR predicted Manaea could land a two-year, $22MM deal this winter.

As for Imanaga, he stands out from the other names on this list as he seems slated for a far more lengthy commitment, though the Mets have been connected to him in the past. MLBTR predicted he could land a five-year, $85MM contract, but with recent reporting suggesting he has enough interest to push past $100MM. Sherman throws a bit of cold water on that today, however, suggesting there are concerns around a 2020 shoulder surgery and also how his tendency to work up in the zone might make him homer prone in the majors.

If the market drops, perhaps the Mets will sense an opportunity to bolster their long-term rotation outlook, in contrast to their other moves this winter. Quintana, Severino and Houser are all set to be free agents after 2024, so they have very little rotation certainty going forward. The 30-year-old Imanaga has a 3.18 ERA in his NPB career and just posted a 2.80 mark in 2023. In addition to the Mets, he’s had interest from clubs like the Red Sox, Giants, Yankees and Cubs, though Patrick Mooney of The Athletic reported today that the Cubs aren’t seen as a likely landing spot for the lefty. Imanaga’s posting period end on January 11, giving him less than a week to get a deal done.

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39 Comments

  1. User 3014224641

    1 year ago

    Breaking! Big market team linked to big names for clicks!

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    • acoss13

      1 year ago

      It’s just Jon Heyman doing his side hustle for Boras clients. Nothing new to see here.

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      • Longtimecoming

        1 year ago

        I agree totally but had forgotten about Ryu. I wonder what a flier on him would take for my budget conscious Padres?

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    • This one belongs to the Reds

      1 year ago

      I have to ask…the Guardians haven’t been around long, so you can’t have been suffering too long as a Guardians fan…right?

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    • SalaryCapMyth

      1 year ago

      This isn’t click bate. Hell, some posters complain about MLBTR posting articles on insignificant contracts signed by small market teams.

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  2. FSF

    1 year ago

    The Mets should trade for Verlander and Scherzer. It would be the ultimate Metsy thing to do.

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    • This one belongs to the Reds

      1 year ago

      I spit out my drink laughing when I saw this.

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    • Slow day at work

      1 year ago

      You are kidding, but it would actually be smart to trade for them if they could get them for lower level prospects or dump the rest of Marte’s contract for 1 of them.
      It won’t happen because neither the Rangers or Astros would be that stupid to do it

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      • BrianInWI

        1 year ago

        The Mets are already paying Scherzer’s and Verlander’s salaries. So, there’s literally no salary for the Rangers or Astros to dump, and no incentive for either team to trade them. They cost them nothing except the roster spot.

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        • Ma4170

          1 year ago

          You know Houston and texas are both paying about $22M each for verlander and scherzer right

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  3. O'sSayCanYouSee

    1 year ago

    Come on…Dylan Cease to the Mets is just silly.

    Maybe 2026 when they buy him from Free Agency.

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  4. DugoutJester

    1 year ago

    These articles tying Cease to the Mets are pure click bait, have a better chance of hens growing teeth than a Mets/Cease trade…

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    • Canuckleball

      1 year ago

      Well actually…

      sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/02/060223083601.htm

      Never say never.

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      • DugoutJester

        1 year ago

        I never said never lol just about the same chances though

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  5. drasco036

    1 year ago

    The value just isn’t there with Imanaga in my opinion. I’d rather spend more on Montgomery or Snell who have track records and you kind of know their ceiling and their floor.

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    • geofft

      1 year ago

      Snell’s track record: two CY Youngs on 2 outstanding years. One earlier in his career, and one most recently. In between those two seasons are five years of sometimes above average, and sometimes mediocre.

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      • drasco036

        1 year ago

        Exactly, you know his ceiling, you know his floor, you know his median. He’s a solid three with TOR upside. Montgomery is a solid three with two upside. Imanaga is a huge question mark as to what his floor is.

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        • geofft

          1 year ago

          Exactly. He’s a 3 who is going to get at least 6 years at close to ace money, and will perform at that level for maybe 2 of the 6 years. .

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        • drasco036

          1 year ago

          What’s “ace money” now? Yamamoto gets 325 million guaranteed, if Snell gets 27 million per and he gives you two seasons of Ace caliber performance and 4 years of 3 performance that is a financial win. Mid rotation starters are getting 20-25 million, Aces are getting 30-35 million (unless your scherzer and Verlander). Snell in his two Cy young seasons put up 6 and 7 WAR seasons, valued at 48 and 56 million respectively, that means if he averages 2 WAR over those 4 season, it’s a value.

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        • geofft

          1 year ago

          Yeah, but he does not average a 2 WAR in his off years. He averaged 1.2 in those four years between CYs. Even if we double his WAR for the 2020 strike season, he still averages just 1.45 for those four years.
          The bigger problem, though, is that he never even reached 130 innings in any of those 4 seasons.

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    • Ma4170

      1 year ago

      I like montgomery as a fit but apparently mets dont agree

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  6. 10centBeerNight

    1 year ago

    NYM front office doesn’t leak. Fun to watch Heyman, Martino etc act like they know

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  7. harrycarey

    1 year ago

    Woodruff would be huge to the Mets in 24. Any production will easily allow them to win the playoffs.

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  8. Joel P

    1 year ago

    The Mets have a better team than people want to give them credit for. If they get a high upside guy like Ryu they could possibly complete in 2024.

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    • Slow day at work

      1 year ago

      I think they could be better than on 2023 and I wouldn’t be surprised if they make it to the playoffs.
      The NL Central is bad, and if the Padres and/or DBacks falter I could see it happen

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    • Raymond Flagstaff

      1 year ago

      Way better, betting odds I saw put them 4th in the NL. People just have always loved kicking the Mets and now that they’re rich even more so. It’ll pass if the farm system starts supplementing the expensive free agents

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    • Bill M

      1 year ago

      Ryu would have to be a one year deal for any team, no?

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  9. Seaver rules

    1 year ago

    Imanaga is a slam dunk.

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  10. ohyeadam

    1 year ago

    Ryu and Clevinger are the best bets, for one year deals, imo. Mets won’t make a significant trade as they want to keep their prospects. Woodruff would be a solid choice but maybe stearns knows too much about his shoulder to offer anything

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    • Raymond Flagstaff

      1 year ago

      Clevinger is a nice option imo, not too familiar with ryus recent health history otherwise I would agree. I like manaea as a 5-7th starter

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    • Ma4170

      1 year ago

      As a met fan I’m proud of them sticking to their plan of not trading prospects this offseason. Farm is strengthening and the timing isnt right yet anyway.

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      • Raymond Flagstaff

        1 year ago

        The largest advantage rich teams have imo is the ability to sell off players for prospects then replace the player sold in free agency. Played correctly its why teams like the Dodgers and Yankees consistently excel. It’s not quite the same as people tend to think where they just buy the best players, thats only a component of it. Looks to me like cohen understands this

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        • Ma4170

          1 year ago

          Good point, and you’re right, not something that readily comes to mind as part of their strategy (and some teams / GMs are better at it than others).

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  11. Raymond Flagstaff

    1 year ago

    Can someone explain how everyone started using the term sweeper at the exact same moment? I didn’t get that memo. Mandella effect? Did I somehow slip into a different timeliness and I missed it? Manfredball redefinition? Next yall gonna be telling me it’s not Berenstein Bears

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  12. ChrisMonte

    1 year ago

    MLB changed it starting last year slider is up down break now sweeper is side to side. Berenstein Bears is now spelled Bad News Bears. You were supposed to stop hibernating in the Spring and slept through all this fun stuff

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    • Raymond Flagstaff

      1 year ago

      Up down is a curveball is it not? Slider is side to side… seems like more dumbing down no one asked for

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  13. jvent

    1 year ago

    Mets should sign Imanaga because it’s the cheap version of the prize Yamamoto, sign Bauer , the 2 of them can be used in the rotation this year than take the places of Quintana and Severino in 2025 , also sign Woodruff to a 2/3 year deal for 2025/2026.

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    • Raymond Flagstaff

      1 year ago

      He is not a cheap version of Yamamoto, no actual comparison outside of entering MLB from Japan in the same year. Not saying don’t sign Imanaga just that it’s not a good comparison. Woodruff is interesting but shoulder injuries are like a speedster with a torn Achilles, not likely he returns to form consistently or soon

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  14. Chris from NJ

    1 year ago

    It’s insane that even suggesting the Mets would spend that kind of money on Imanaga. His stuff is going to play down in the majors and he looks like Kei Igawa part 2. Forget about Cease too the ChiSox want and arm and a leg and if Stearns is trying to build something sustainable that’s not the way to go about it. But I don’t see him going in either direction. Just more BS slow off season stuff.

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