It wasn’t really a shock that the Twins became deadline sellers, as the club’s downturn in June and July pretty much closed the door on Minnesota’s chances of contending. However, the sheer scope of the Twins’ selloff was eye-opening, as the club swung nine different trades within four days of the July 31 deadline and sent 11 different players to eight separate clubs. Several behind-the-scenes details about the trades the Twins both did and didn’t make have filtered out since July 31, and Bobby Nightengale Jr. of the Minnesota Star Tribune adds a few more notes about the front office approached this pivotal four-day period.
Jhoan Duran and Griffin Jax were both pursued by several teams, though “the Dodgers didn’t show much interest in” either reliever, Nightengale writes. This runs somewhat contrary to a pre-deadline report that linked Los Angeles to the duo, though it could be that the Dodgers simply weren’t interested in paying what ended up being a high price tag for either pitcher. Though the Dodgers were known to be considering pretty much every reliever on the market, the reigning World Series champs’ biggest bullpen splash ended up being another Twin in Brock Stewart. Though Stewart is arbitration-eligible through 2027, his “trade value was more commensurate with a rental reliever because of his injury history,” according to Nightengale, which is why Minnesota obtained outfielder James Outman (something of a spare part in L.A.) rather than prospects.
The Twins wanted two top-100 prospects for Duran, an asking price commensurate with the closer’s quality and the fact that he is arb-controlled through 2027. It was a big enough ask to dissuade the Mariners, who “were deep into talks with the Twins” and may have been the runners-up in the Duran talks. The Phillies refused to give up Andrew Painter for Duran or anyone, and ended up landing Duran for catching prospect Eduardo Tait and young starter Mick Abel.
Technically, this trade package didn’t meet Minnesota’s ask, since Abel was no longer part of top-100 rankings heading into the 2025 season. Still, Abel has been a regular on such rankings for the previous four years, was selected 15th overall by the Phils in the 2020 draft, and is a big league-ready starter after making his MLB debut this season.
Tait and Leo De Vries (acquired by the A’s from the Padres in the Mason Miller blockbuster) were the only consensus top-100 prospects who changed teams at this year’s deadline, speaking to the high value that clubs place on these top prospects. Nightengale writes that Minnesota felt Tait “had the highest upside” of any of the players that the Mariners offered for Duran, and preferred Tait to another top Phillies prospect in shortstop Aidan Miller. This would seem to imply that Philadelphia was also willing to include Miller as the top prospect in the package, which tracks with past reports indicating that Painter and perhaps Justin Crawford were the only real untouchables within the Phils’ minor league system.
Duran was dealt on July 30 and the Twins then swung another trade with the Phillies the next day, moving Harrison Bader for two lower-level prospects (outfielder Hendry Mendez and right-hander Geremy Villoria). The Twins and Phillies had previously talked about combining Duran and Bader into a single deal, but Nightengale writes that Minnesota wanted to move Duran separately.
This left Bader as one of the seven trades Minnesota swung on the July 31 deadline day itself, including the deal that sent Jax to the Rays for Taj Bradley. Since Jax is also arb-controlled through 2027, the Twins initially wanted a prospect package “similar to the one they received in the Duran deal.” This could explain why “Jax’s market didn’t pick up until the last day,” Nightengale notes, and perhaps why teams like the Dodgers were balking. Rather than getting a prospect back for Jax, the Twins instead got an experienced MLB starter who is controlled through 2029, and as the club is betting that Bradley has a higher ceiling of performance.
Minnesota’s trading flurry began when Chris Paddack and Randy Dobnak were sent to the Tigers on July 28 in exchange for catching prospect Enrique Jimenez. Paddack was known to be receiving interest from the Rays and Yankees, and Nightengale adds that the Reds were another club at least exploring the right-hander’s market. With Paddack off the board, Cincinnati pivoted to land another rental starter in Zack Littell as part of a three-team trade involving the Rays and Dodgers.
Abel was a top 100 prospect as of the deadline per MLB.com at least. Not at the start of the season, but he’s back in that range now.
DD is voted as the worst gm in the league by his peers. I always said he was overrated by I also don’t think he’s the worst. He’s the most simple he knows he’s just going to bail once things go south so he trades every prospect he can. It’s embarrassing his teams haven’t won more given his all in approach every year
Not sure how he’s not doing a great job in Philly? Sure the massive payroll helps but they haven’t made many bad moves and have a more respectable farm than some would think. And you don’t get awards for having a good farm.
I always hear people say you don’t get awards for having the best farm. You do though it usually leads to a WS appearance in like 3-5 years see Astros, cubs, redsox and dodgers, braves.
@holecamels35 100% well said, Take a look at Preller: 13 years with the Padres, 0 rings, 0 World Series appearances. Meanwhile, DD joined the Phillies in a difficult situation, and in two years he has led them to the World Series, winning the NL pennant.and make them one of the best teams in MLB
Yes and no. These teams all did more than keep all their prospects though. Astros and Braves are notorious for having poor farms too but always manage to compete (aside from this season) and make trade with thelr limited resources. Pirates consistently have a high ranked farm. Nats have a lot of top prospects, hasn’t translated to winning.
To be fair to Preller, DD’s situation wasn’t as bad as it seemed at the time. The team didn’t have a bunch of bad contracts and while the farm wasn’t great, it wasn’t a bottom 5 system. What’s carried the Phillies the last 4 years has been their starting pitching. DD inherited 2 elite starters (Wheeler & Nola) and 2 starters who eventually molded themselves into front line starters who have been in the CYA conversation the last 2 years (Sanchez & Suarez).
DD has made some shrewd moves, like trading for Jose Alvarado, signing Kyle Schwarber & this trade for Duran. But he has made a lot of moves that haven’t been good or there’s been mixed results so far (Taijuan Walker signing, Kimbrel signing, Kepler signing, Turner signing has looked great this year but has been a mixed bag the first 3 years, Marsh/O’Hoppe deal is fine to slight thumbs up).
If anything, the key was firing Joe Girardi when he did and appointing Rob Thomson the interim (and then future) manager. DD had a pretty decent spot to land in cause it was a team that was underperforming but had a lot of flexibility and an ownership with money that was able to spend it.
Which is probably DD’s best asset, his ability to talk & convince ownership into spending more money or prospect capitol for the right pieces. He did it in Detroit, Boston, & Philly.
source?
Ask gms. Heyman and Sherman also just talked about this on their podcast.
Define “peers” as it is clear that you have no clue what that word means. Nor do you know anything about DD, nor have an actual poll that reflects your claim.
HoF bound GM’s tend to have the respect of their actual peers, as Dombrowski does. His approach with the Expos and Marlins was very different from his owner-driven approaches with the Tigers and Red Sox. And his approach with the Phils has been different than the two prior stops as well.
It’s not my claim. It’s from gms. This isn’t new. It was true 15 years ago it’s true now. It’s not shocking given how many prospects he trades away it’s so different from the other better gms who actually stay with their team when times get tough.
@ThatNotIt – Please link up your information to these mysterious polls
He made it up. The idea that DD is perceived badly is absolutly ridiculous.
Listen to Heyman and Sherman’s podcast from this past week. It’s good to see new fans of baseball who don’t know this is common thought amongst other gms. Sometimes I forget you new fans don’t speak with gms in the league on a regular basis.
Incorrect. Please cite any gm calling him one of the best.
@Thatsnotit – Congratulations, you have vaulted yourself into the top ten in the most delusional poster category. There is steep competition on here so that is some nice work
I’m delusional for repeating what other gms have said in the past. You’re really mad about this lol. You should listen to their latest podcast they agree with you he’s not the worst but they happen to be wrong as well.
Wrong.
Why do the “Times Get Tough” if they are better GMs?
Every GM poll I’ve seen says the total opposite….but again…thats my claim…it’s from GMs.
Link?
I have rarely heard anyone say anything disparaging about Dombrowski or his work. He’s a very successful career winning OPs GM and president. All class. HOF shoe in. Has no problem working with any team in trades. I don’t know the podcast you mention but in a decade in the MLb I’ve never heard anyone say anything negative about the man frankly even when he was on the other side of the stadium.
I agree totally overrated gm. Didn’t read the novel you wrote.
Duran is a game changer for the Phillies…
He was exactly what they needed. They did really well with that trade in my opinion.
This is one of those trades that really can’t be fully graded until 5 years in the future. The Phillies made the move to win a WS. If they do that, it’s a slam dunk win. Even more so, if they extend and keep Duran in Philly.
At the same time, the Phillies have Realmuto at catcher who is 35 and is clearly breaking down. The Phillies passed on 5 bat first college catchers who could all challenge for the bigs in 1-2 years for a pitcher in the first round of the draft. Trading Tait gives them zero future plans for the position. Dealing an 18 yo bat that has legit 30-40 home run potential can bite them in a few years.
Can’t really grade the trade until we see if the Phillies win a World Series, but the early return has been good for the Phillies.
Technically Mick Abel was listed at 96 on the MLB Pipelines top-100 prospects on the night of the trade
Andrew Heaney would like a word with you.
I’ll never understand why they wanted taj Bradley and James outman.
Bradley has a high ceiling if he can ever put it all together. Outman is a bit more of a head scratcher.
Especially when Minnesota is already flush with lumbering, left-handed hitting, strikeout prone corner outfielders
Outman is pushing 30 years of age and rather than get a look at Outman down the stretch, they optioned him to AAA. That is flat out bizarre!
If not now for Outman, then when?
Rumor is, he’ll be up in a week or so because they’d get an extra year of control. Why you’d need another year of control of him is another bizarre thing (if true)
And he’s hitting below .100 in AAA! I think they made the right decision
Twinkies didn’t get nearly enough from the Phillies for a controllable, premier closer. Should have gotten 2 more players.
Twinkies didn’t get nearly enough from the Phillies for Bader as well = a redundant LH batting OF and a wildcard minor leaguer who most likely will never make it to the majors.
The Stewart trade with the Dodgers was a total waste. Considering how the Twinkies have been burnt by Dodger castoffs in the past, more value should have been received from the Dodgers but instead they got another castoff LH batting failed major league OF in Outman.. The Dodger Deficit of what is owed to the Twins by the Dodgers for sticking it to the Twins on player trades and sales (most recently Outman, Carmago, Cartaya, Davis).
Keep your eyes peeled down the stretch and over the off season, though; Twinkies are loading up with LH hitting OF and AAAA starting pitching for a reason. Lopez, Ryan, Larnach, Wallner, possibly Lewis and to nobody’s surprise Julien, Miranda, McCusker, a host of no name MLB, AAAA, AAA relievers and players will soon be among the missing from wearing Minnesota Twins’ uniforms.
But in the end it was a bunch of relievers the Twins traded. They could move Bradley and Abel to the bullpen and will have broken even. This team needed a reset, feels like they at least fell forward.
And he’s under contract for two years beyond this season. With that in mind I thought it was a great pick-up once they acquired him.
My confidence in him rose tremendously though once he came out to that flashy entrance in his Phillies debut and got three outs on 4-pitches. That was awesome to see on TV. I can’t imagine what it was like in the stands.
Paddack has looked good so far for the Tigers.
I’m still good with most of the players going. I don’t get attached to relievers so turning failed starters into great relievers and then trading them later is what they should keep doing forever, especially if they get a SP or starting position player in return. It’s the one thing they are pretty good at.
Varland is still odd to me. I wouldn’t have traded him with all those years of control left. I don’t even really like Varland and was calling for him to be a RP two to three years before they finally did it. It was beyond clear he wasn’t a starter.
The returns as a whole, I’m underwhelmed. I hope Abel proves me wrong and keeps reducing those walks as he’s done so far this season, but he still walks too many. I actually was good with the Jax return. I’m not excited for Bradley until he gets his K’s up, but if he fails to do so they can probably just turn him into another Jax.
Wrong Aidan Miller; this one is not in pro ball yet.
With so many teams still in the hunt at the deadline the trades have become less brilliant. It’s just the cost of competition. I’m ok with that.
“Tait and Leo De Vries (acquired by the A’s from the Padres in the Mason Miller blockbuster) were the only consensus top-100 prospects who changed teams at this year’s deadline,” But De Vries was top 2 or 3, and Tait was 92 or 93, or somewhere in there. and if Tait was top 100, he was in the nineties also. There is no comparison betweem a top 5 prospect and a top 95 prospect. .