January 20: Bichette’s physical is complete and the Mets have officially announced the signing. They’ll hold a press conference on Wednesday afternoon to introduce their new star.
January 16: The Mets wasted little time in changing gears after missing out on the offseason’s top free agent. They’ve reportedly agreed to a massive three-year, $126MM contract with free agent infielder Bo Bichette. The Vayner Sports client can opt out of the contract after this season and after the 2027 campaign, and if he chooses to do so he’ll pick up an additional $5MM bonus. The contract does not contain any deferred money and affords Bichette a full no-trade clause.
It’s a stunning and near-immediate pivot for a Mets club that is barely 12 hours removed from losing out on Kyle Tucker, who just last night went to the Dodgers. Los Angeles outbid the Mets’ reported four-year, $220MM deal with a four-year, $240MM contract that gives Tucker two opt-out opportunities (post-2027 and post-2028). Having missed on that big swing, the Mets now pivot to the market’s next-best bat and next-best all-around free agent, bringing Bichette in on a $42MM annual value that ties Zack Wheeler for the sixth-largest in MLB history.
In landing Bichette, the Mets are not only pivoting from Tucker in arguably the most notable way possible — they’re also keeping him from a division rival that had emerged as the ostensible frontrunner. Bichette met with the Phillies earlier this week, and made him a seven-year offer worth around $200MM. They believed they were close to a deal last night, but the Tucker decision prompted a pivot from the Mets, who swooped in and stole him from their rivals. Bichette now lands a mammoth annual value that could grow even further (via that $5MM bonus) if he opts out and returns to the market next winter, ahead of what would still be only his age-29 season.
Though the fit isn’t necessarily as clean as Tucker would have been for a Mets club that already had a deep infield and was lacking in outfielders, Bichette adds a clear plus bat to manager Carlos Mendoza’s lineup. The 27-year-old (28 in March) has been a well above-average hitter in all but one of his seven major league campaigns — a 2024 season that was cut short by multiple calf injuries and a broken finger standing as the lone exception.
Bichette hit just .225/.277/.322 in 80 games during that awful 2024 campaign. He not only bounced back in 2025 but turned in arguably the best performance of his career on a rate basis, slashing .311/.357/.483 with 18 home runs in 628 plate appearances. By measure of wRC+ (134), it was Bichette’s best season since his late call-up during the 2019 campaign (MLB’s juiced-ball season).
Even on its surface, Bichette’s 2025 season looks excellent. It doesn’t tell the tale of his finish, though, which had both positives and one very obvious negative. Bichette actually had a tepid start to his 2025 campaign. The underlying batted-ball data through his first month-plus was strong, but he hit just .275/.316/.363 through the first week of May. From that point forth, Bichette caught fire. Over his next 457 plate appearances, he laid waste to opposing pitchers at a .325/.372/.528 clip. That was 50% better than league-average, by measure of wRC+, and even that doesn’t fully do justice to Bichette’s jaw-dropping summer; over his final 238 plate appearances, the second-generation All-Star went supernova with a .381/.437/.591 slash (187 wRC+).
Unfortunately for both Bichette and the Blue Jays, that previously mentioned “very obvious negative” struck in early September when he suffered a sprained posterior cruciate ligament in his knee and missed the remainder of the regular season. He was also inactive for the early rounds of postseason play, only returning in the World Series. Bichette was clearly hobbled during the Fall Classic, limping to first base with ’88 Gibson-esque speed when putting the ball in play and displaying a lack of range at a new position: second base. Bichette’s shortstop glovework has been panned for years, and the Jays took the downtime as an opportunity to shift the defensively superior Andres Gimenez over to shortstop in his absence.
Despite the clearly injured knee, Bichette’s bat didn’t miss a beat in the World Series. He went 8-for-23 with seven singles and a titanic three-run homer off Shohei Ohtani in Game 7 of the World Series. Had the Jays’ bullpen managed to hold the lead, that would-be game-winner would have trailed only Joe Carter’s walk-off blast in franchise lore. Of course, that’s not how the game turned out, but Bichette’s 442-foot bomb still served to further underscore that even at less than 100%, he was a clear impact bat.
Bichette now carries a lifetime .294/.337/.469 batting line with him to Queens. He’s been 20-35% better than an average hitter every season of his career with the exception of that 2024 outlier, and this past season’s 14.5% strikeout rate was a career-low. He couples those plus-plus contact skills with above-average power and high-end batted-ball data; Bichette averaged 91 mph off the bat this past season (72nd percentile), and his 48.8% hard-hit rate sat in the 83rd percentile of big league hitters.
The question for Bichette and the Mets is how well he can handle a move to third base. His shortstop deficiencies were largely due to sub-par range. He doesn’t have a plus throwing arm necessarily, but it’s closer to average — at least in terms of the average velocity on his throws, as measured by Statcast — than was the case with his bottom-of-the-scale lateral movement. Bichette averaged 82.3 mph on his throws across the diamond last year — below par in MLB but still an upgrade (at least in terms of pure arm strength) over the man he’ll be replacing at the hot corner, Brett Baty (81.2 mph). Bichette may not be a plus defender at third, but even average defense coupled with his bat and good health would result in All-Star output.
Baty could now bounce between multiple positions. He’s played second base and left field in the past, and the Mets would surely be open to experimenting with him at first base, too. The designated hitter slot provides more opportunities for all. It’s a similar range of possibilities to the one faced by Jorge Polanco, who inked a two-year, $40MM deal last month. Polanco will reportedly be used extensively at first base and designated hitter despite having virtually no prior first base experience.
For a team that has preached run prevention for much of the offseason, lining up with Bichette at third base and Polanco/Baty at first probably isn’t how they drew things up originally — but the offseason is a layered beast that rarely unfolds in alignment with even the best-laid plans. Even if the Mets’ infield defense (and outfield defense, for that matter) is lacking, it’ll be solid up the middle thanks to Francisco Lindor and Marcus Semien. It should also be a highly productive offensive unit — particularly if Semien’s bat can bounce back at all.
Of course, the addition of Bichette also makes a potential trade of Baty — and several other infielders — more likely. Clubs seeking third base help include the Mariners, Angels and Pirates (as explored at length yesterday), among others. Any could show interest in Baty, Mark Vientos, Luisangel Acuña and/or Ronny Mauricio. Acuña, Vientos and Mauricio have all reportedly been available throughout the offseason anyhow. Some form of move seems likely, especially when considering both Acuña and Vientos are out of minor league options and looking to bounce back from poor seasons.
From a payroll vantage point, the Bichette contract is all the more staggering. Not only is the $42MM annual value the sixth-largest ever, it’s also only a fraction of what the Mets will actually have to pay due to this signing. New York was already on the cusp of the top tier of luxury penalization. Bichette catapults them $33MM north of that final cutoff point, per RosterResource’s estimates. They’ll pay a 95% tax on the first roughly $9MM of his annual value and a full-freight 110% tax on the remaining $33MM. Assuming an even distribution of his $126MM over the three-year term, the Mets would be paying more than $86MM for Bichette in 2026 alone. If he triggers that $5MM bonus upon opting out next winter, that’d also be subject to a 110% tax, bringing the Mets’ total bill on Bichette to about $97MM for just one year.
Moreover, the signing underscores the minimal amount that many big-market, CBT-paying clubs care about paying the 110% tax on short-term deals marquee players. The Dodgers’ signing of Tucker — just as will be the case with Bichette’s deal — has rekindled public outcry for a salary cap, but the players will likely only use these deals to illustrate the discrepancy between the middle and upper class of free agents; the union will surely argue that a cap would only further expand that gap and point out that half the money paid by CBT offenders is redistributed to other teams (in addition to standard revenue-sharing). That won’t fly with small-market owners, who’ll argue that they can’t compete with this type of expenditure. Both sides will dig in their heels.
It’s also fair to wonder whether this is a short-term blip or a burgeoning trend. Even big-market clubs seem increasingly against long-term contracts. For years, it was the Dodgers who tended to prefer short-term, high-AAV deals. But we’ve now seen the Mets limit their Tucker offer to four years and go three super-premium years on Bichette — while also declining to go beyond three years for Pete Alonso or Edwin Diaz. The Red Sox clearly prefer the trade market to free agency and surprised onlookers by even extending to five years to sign Ranger Suárez. The Yankees have reportedly been stuck on five years for their offer to Cody Bellinger while he seeks a seven-year term. Giants ownership publicly voiced an aversion to signing any pitchers to long-term contracts.
If baseball is indeed moving more toward NBA-style contracts — short term, ultra-high annual value — it’d mark a dramatic shift for a sport whose top players have overwhelmingly (albeit not always) preferred the stability of long-term arrangements, even if that means sacrificing some money on an annual basis. Time will tell, but that will all factor into both parties’ approach at the negotiating table next winter in an offseason that is widely expected to be impacted by a lockout and transaction freeze.
Turning back to the teams directly impacted by today’s signing, the Mets will part with their second- and fifth-highest selections in the 2026 draft as well as $1MM of space from next year’s bonus pool for international amateur free agents. That’s due to the fact that Bichette declined a $22.025MM qualifying offer. By that same token, the Blue Jays will be compensated with an extra pick. That selection will come after the fourth round of this summer’s draft — the lowest possible compensation — due to Toronto’s status as a luxury tax payor.
For the Jays, parting with Bichette has at least seemed possible throughout the winter but began to look more certain once they signed star NPB third baseman Kazuma Okamoto and plugged him into an already crowded infield. There was still some room for Bichette to return, but Toronto’s focus has reportedly been on Tucker. With Bichette now formally out of the picture, they’re lined up to go with Ernie Clement at second base, Gimenez at shortstop and Okamoto/Addison Barger at third base.
As for the Phillies, they’ve made their own immediate pivot, upping their offer to give longtime catcher J.T. Realmuto the third year he’s sought. Less than two hours after the Bichette agreement broke, Realmuto and the Phillies had a new deal in place. Philadelphia had reportedly only been comfortable signing one of Bichette or Realmuto, with the recent preference seeming to be the former. A Bichette signing would likely have led to Realmuto going elsewhere and one of Alec Bohm or Bryson Stott being traded. Trading either feels less likely — but certainly not impossible — now that Bichette is in Queens and Realmuto is staying put.
Even Bichette himself will now have major questions to consider in the near-term future. With a big season, he’ll assuredly opt out of his contract, cashing in $47MM (or thereabouts, depending on the division of salary) for one year and re-entering the market as a 28-year-old who can’t receive a qualifying offer. If he can do that and prove himself capable of playing an average or better third base, he could come out hundreds of millions ahead. That’s far from a given, though, and he’ll need to make that decision against the backdrop of a looming work stoppage.
It’s a dizzying sequence of interwoven, high-priced payouts for star players — the ramifications of which will reach further than we can accurately predict at this time. It seems clear that the Mets have at least one move coming with regard to their infield glut, and they’re still in search of help both in the rotation and in the outfield. With Tucker and Bichette coming off the board within a matter of 15 hours, Cody Bellinger suddenly stands as the top position player available — possibly with several clubs now keying in on him and providing more pressure for the incumbent Yankees to bridge the gap between their five-year offer and his seven-year ask. Will Bellinger similarly pivot to a short-term, high-AAV contract? If so, will that be in the Bronx or with a new club?
Questions abound, and there are surely several moves yet to be made, but the Mets are a more talented and more dangerous team now than they were this time yesterday — even if it’s not due to the player they were originally targeting. Their pivot is likely only just beginning, but adding a prime-aged, multi-time All-Star who has twice led the American League in hits is a pretty good first step in a pivot.
Will Sammon of The Athletic first reported the agreement and contract length. The New York Post’s Jon Heyman added the total guarantee and no-trade clause. Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic added details regarding the opt-outs and lack of deferrals. Jon Morosi of the MLB Network reported that Bichette was likely to play third base in Queens.


first!
You were supposed to say wow.
I really think MLBTR should put a filter on one-word comments.
Disagree.
Nonsense!
Lord
Re: word limit
No floor without a cap. 🤣🤣🤣
really?
Dang!
Love this!
Concur.
nah
MLB. Two thumbs up on your floor/ceiling comment. I’m now smelling a Red Sox -Mets trade involving Duran and Bello with part of the return being Baty.
Or rather, no cap without a floor.
Nope
No
I think names like his should be banned.
¿Por qué?
This.
Nope… Red Sox are not trading Bello…. he is signed and reasonably cheap… not happening.
They are going with Meyer at 3B, and Campbell/Hamilton at 2B. Baty provides nothing to the Sox they already do not have.
There would have to be a lot more involved than a so/so defender with a questionable bat to get both Duran and Bello and the Mets don’t have it unless McLean is headlining the deal
Cooper, did you see Baty the second half? If the Sox were to get that offense/defense, they would be content at least on the glove side. Mayer’s injury history cannot be ignored. Finally, the additional return would need to include too prospects back. The Mets are deep and Boston needs to replenish after their prior trades.
RSox. The Mets are not dealing McLean to Boston without Anthony going back (not happening). That said, they have a deep system currently and a return including two prospects not named McLean seems reasonable.
This is the highlight of their life let them be
I sincerely hope not. Baty has shown real promise as a solid homegrown piece. Would trade Vientos or Acuna before Baty.
To say the Mets don’t have the talent for a trade is ridiculous. They have one of the best farm systems and tons of young players already on the roster. They may not want to pay Boston’s asking price, but they could trade for Skenes; they can afford to trade with anyone.
Duran and Bello for six years of McLean alone is crazy but for McLean AND other pieces is just pure nonsense.
no, but a swap of Wilyer Abreu and Mark Vientos makes some sense. Vientos has a swing that fits Fenway like a glove.
Yup.
And Vientos has a glove that…wait…does he even own a glove?
A Vientos trade made more sense for the Red Sox before they signed Contreras. Nobody is trading for Vientos with the assumption that he’s their starting 3B going forward.
@Cooper
I’m sorry to break the news for you, but Campbell is no longer at 2nd baseman (some would argue he never was!). He’s an outfielder exclusively at this point.
Inconceivable
Agree
Guess everyone WAS waiting for Tucker to sign. Wonder what everyone will say when they find out Tucker is worth nowhere near what he’s being paid. It only took the Cubs 16 million to find out at least. I think the Mets came out ahead in this round of FA musical chairs. LOL Maybe even the Cubs with Bregman and a draft pick.
Vientos would DH.
dewey – That’s kind of a big price for the Sox, who do you envision coming with Baty? He’s only a .666 OPS hitter, not exactly gonna fill Boston’s offensive need.
Poppycock!
Rsox – Yeah Duran and Bello have huge talent and years of team control, I’m not sure I would give them up for even Marte.
Why?
Pot Que No!
Dewey? That seems like an overpay on Baty…
I know you said ‘part’ but im not sure theres enough worthwhile pieces for NYM to throw in to make up the value that they’d be willing to move.
“ Mets will part with… as well as $1MM of space from next year’s bonus pool for international amateur free agents.”
Stearns knew this had a good shot of happening – either with Tucker or Bichette and acquired that $1 million from Cleveland.
Smart.
Not a chance
that is so f’n ridiculous.
How about this trade from the White Sox:
Murakami (2 yrs. / 34M)
Robert (1 yrs. / 20.2M)
–for–
Semien (3 yrs. / 72M)
Baty
Acuna
Ewing
Santucci
White Sox send their newly acquired Japanese superstar and Gold Glove CF Luis Robert for Semien and four prospects.
This trade or a similar trade could save the Mets.
Even Getz isn’t stupid enough to pull of this deal. Plus Murakami can’t be traded til June 15th without his permission and it’s doubtful he says yes to go somewhere he could have chosen in free agency
Its a big return for the White Sox.
Baty potentially as good of a player as Murakami. I like Baty as much or more. He has a short swing, some serious fast-twitch. Good defense at 3B.
Im a Luis Angel Acuna fan. He is an athlete. Age 24 season, this kid has some power. Obviously his brother is Ronald Acuna but Luis Angel is going to break out if he gets an opportunity. Can play 2B and LF.
Ewing looks like a leadoff hitter and a starting CF to me — great speed, could develop some power too. A good LHB.
Santucci is a good SP prospect, LHP, four seamer, slider, changeup — keeps it simple. Has nice K/BB ratios and GB rates.
Sox take on nearly 20M in salary and that is why the return is so high. It isnt Murakami, its shedding Semien.
Its a lot to give up for the Mets but they gain a lot in Murakami’s power potential and marketability, and Robert is potentially a big upgrade to Tyrone Taylor in CF. And they get out of that third year on Semien which is potentially 40M off the books when you consider the tax.
If I were Getz, Id be on the phone with the Mets.
Doh!
@No ABS: That is maybe the worst trade proposal I have ever seen on MLBTR. Why on earth the Mets would trade two prospects they’re very high on, plus Baty, in order to acquire a guy they could have signed for cash (Murakami; and it’s a low amount of cash) and Robert, who has been awful for two straight seasons? Baffling proposal. You should look into how much the Mets value Ewing and Santucci. Baty alone put up more WAR in 2025 than Robert has over the last two years combined, so did Semien. Terrible.
It’s a huge return for the ChiSox. And Mets will not even consider that. Because it is so one sided.
Robert is virtually untradeable at $20m. It was a ploy by Getz to think he could overvalue him in the market. It has so far backfired.
Murakami can’t be traded.
That’s hilariously bias. McLean for Duran & Bello hahaha do you know the names the Mets could get for McLean? Baty & Duran have about equal value when you weigh in age & control being Baty is 3 years younger and has 1 more year of control. Duran is probably slightly more valuable but maybe a 12-20th ranked prospect in the Mets system more. If Duran & Bello could fetch arguably the best most MLB ready RH SP prospect in baseball the Red Sox would have pulled the trigger a long time ago. Yesavage is the only one who can be argued about him and it’s a tough call. Also Baty is a good defensive 3B and a so/so 2B but he learned the position on the fly last year. Every reason to believe he could improve and his bat looks to be ascending.
2025:
Baty: OPS+ 111, OPS .748, WAR 3.1
Duran: OPS+ 114, OPS .774, WAR 4.7
Btw McLean more than made up the difference in WAR in 8 starts. Also have to factor in home ballpark as Baty .ISO, OPS, HR, etc would all rise playing in Fenway as a LH hitter compared to Citi Field. Can’t really disagree either when Duran was very good at home and pitiful batting .227 on the road last season. You’re basically saying Bello could fetch McLean or close to it. Regardless to Bello being under control at a good rate if the Mets made McLean available to DET they wouldn’t have to pay much more if anything extra at all for Skubal. Mets have a top 5 system in baseball any of their top 5 plus Baty could fetch Bello & Duran if even necessary
@Queen Soto
Over the past two years Baty has been worth 2.8 fWAR as opposed to 10.8 fWAR for Duran (and that’s with Duran playing out of position for most of the time) – even with the 1 extra year of control Baty isn’t worth half as much as Duran.
That said, the Mets aren’t trading McLean as he’s MLB ready now and they would just have to trade for another potential TOR SP to replace him, so it doesn’t make sense. As-is, the rumors are that they’re trying to add a pitcher. If Sandoval looks good in spring training he could be a good fit in exchange for someone like Mauricio or a mid-level prospect. And at that point, the Mets would have a better idea of if they actually need a pitcher or not (depending on how theur young arms look).
If the Mets were to want Duran, it would take Baty + Williams or Tong and a 3rd piece, or something equivalent. Mets may be wanting to hold onto their prospects though, so we’ll see if anything materializes.
That aged well..🙄
I would love Baty in Seattle. Our 2 young infielders Young @ 2B and Emerson @ 3B are both Lefty swingers. Baty could spell both and get regular ant bats. That’s why all the Donovan (who is a lefty) 2B-3B option doesn’t make sense to me. Plus the Cards are reportedly asking for way too much. What would the Mets want for him?
Baty also bats left-handed…
Duran has averaged 6.7 WAR the past 2 seasons, Baty 1.7. Duran is one of the top 3 or 4 OF in baseball. Baty is a DH/utility player now.
I wonder if they’ve told Lindor he’s now a bench player?
1B Polanco
2B Semien
SS Lindor
3B Bichette
DH Vientos
OF Soto
Or does Semien or Vientos move to 3B
Some nice bats but I am still picking Phillies and Atlanta to finish first and second in division.
No doubt…but third place should still be a wild card in the NL. Playoffs are a crapshoot…even for the Dodgers.
Vientos is gonna get dealt, they’d rather keep Baty
Mets are reportedly looking to trade vientos
mlb, The Phillies are a weaker team now than they were at the end of the 2025 season. If they don’t resign Realmuto, they’ll be even weaker. Gone are Bader, who carried the team the second-half of the 2025 season, Suarez, and Strahm. Wheeler’s ability to contribute in 2026 is still questionable. The Phils have acquired Garcia to replace Castellanos who they’ll have to pay $17 – $20 million to another team to take, even though Castellanos is the far better of the two players. There are now reports that the Phils have more internal conflicts than previously reported, as well as reports the Phils are losing money.
Meanwhile, the Mets have lost several good players, but with the acquisitions of position players Bichette, Polanco, and Semien, and relievers Williams, Weaver, and Gerber now appear to be a more consistent and balanced team than last year.
So, what makes you think the Phillies will win the NL east in 2026?
Vientios is fighting for a job. Many players have had a 60 to 90 day burst. After last season, he has to prove himself.
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I don’t think Atlanta deserves that benefit of the doubt off the season they had last year. You might be right, but I wouldn’t predict that for them. They need to prove it to me.
Rather see
Lindor – SS
Semien 2b
Bichette 1b
Soto RF
Polanco DH-1b
Alvarez C
Baty 3b
Hays/Benge LF
Taylor/Jett CF
That lineup would give Opp fits when Benge and Williams emerge.
I would be more worried about the Braves; as all their players have to do is stay healthy. Atlanta could have one of the best back end of the bullpens in the game.
The Mets don’t feel as frightening without Alonso and his 40-50 home run power in the middle of that line up. Also with Diaz gone replaced by Williams at least early in the season there doesn’t sense to be if you’re losing to the Mets after 8 innings it’s over like when Diaz was there.
I believe the Mets will miss the playoffs again
Benjamin101677:
I think the Diaz versus Williams things is recency bias. Two years ago Williams was by far the better closer. That can flip again. Even with great relievers, there can be some fluctuation in performance. Alonso did provide power but not a a lot of other dimensions. A diversified offense is a better one in my opinion. That’s still need a left fielder though so it’s to be determined who that will be and how much that will improve the offense as well.
“If” Benge and Williams (and Alvarez and Baty) emerge. None of them has a proven track record of success in MLB.
Neither did Kyle Tucker before his first full year. Or any major player in the bigs. The point is, they likely have enough offense to bring kids along slowly.
I think Baty moves to 1B and Polanco to be primary DH where he should be.
Joe
Baty is a better defender than Vientos, but Vientos might be the better hitter. Not sure that they will trade either of them.
They are going to sign more players
benj, I agree. The Braves lost 2025 to injuries. If they’re healthy in 2026, they could win the NL East. As it stands now, the Mets should do better than expected and the Phils, if they don’t resign Realmuto and add another impact player, could find themselves trying to reorganize by the trade deadline. If the Phils aren’t in first place as the trade deadline nears, Thomson may be gone, Mattingly may take over, and Schwarber may be on the trade block.
Mike
That’s fair. Look I would not be shocked to a totally different outcome in NL East. I think Realmuto will be back with Phillies on a short deal. Phillies has some pressure on Crawford and Painter to perform but I think that both will be pretty good. Having Duran for the full season will help. Atlanta having Kim and Reynaldo for the full season will help and Suarez will make that a great bullpen.
Based on your assessment, it looks pretty grim for the Phillies going forward. I hope their sinking ship can stay afloat through April.
El Kabong:
Yeah, no way to know what Williams and Benge are yet. I don’t see either of them starting every day on this team yet. Baty and Alvarez do have a degree of a track record of success, but it hasn’t been consistent yet and not for very long. We have at least seen a baseline of what these guys can do at the Major league level. But yes, they need to prove more.
I think many of the braves had career years a few years ago, and won’t replicate that. Acuna is elite when healthy, but has proven health can be an issue for him. Olson solid, but uneven. Riley has fallen off. Albies not much impact any longer. Same w murphy. I said last year they were overrated and it proved true. If all goes right they can prob get to high 80s, but it likely won’t.
This reeks of desperate IMO
This lineup scares nobody
I love the Phillies but they are not in my opinion close to winning the East just by running it back. We are entering post 2011 territory and that is not a place to be.
They did sign Realmuto
I get you, Braves fans.
Okay, Lindor, Bichette, and Soto in the lineup scares nobody.
Are you trying to disinform us or are you misinforming us because your baseball IQ is very bad?
Baty has value, Vientos could be another Bobby Dalbec (a better bat, worse glove). His value is not there at present. Send him to the minors to rebuild his stock and he could be a nice chip at the deadline.
I don’t see a sell low there. Until there are further moves, Baty could get a shot at LF, while Vientos and Polanco share 1B and DH.
Oh, no!
Yeah Miken31, Williams is a top-5 true talent closer and should rebound to his former lofty heights in 2026.
Benge is going to be a good one. I’d rather have him up than someone like Bader, who just had a solid walk year and will most likely go back to being the oft-injured player he normally is next season.
Exactly Jdawg. Almost all of the current top players in MLB were also top prospects.
lol! Lindor a bench player is hilarious. One of the top 5 best all around players in MLB.
I am sure the Lindor comment was made facetiously.
Where do you rank Betts and Trout? Just curious.
Francisco has better defensive metrics than Bo. He will remain the shortstop.
Muted. What are you 12?
“muted” what are you 12?
You can say that again.
“muted” what are you 12?
Sounds more like a 6 year old joke.
Muted you are. 12 are you?
It wasn’t funny the second time.
Jeopardy Showdown…
Alex, what is 2026; as in the year Kyle Tucker got $60M AAV and Bo Freakin Bichette got $42M AAV.
– – Answer: The year MLB shot itself in the head.
Feels like this contract will be back loaded like $55 million salary in 2028.
With a strike coming. Crazy times.
Wouldn’t be surprised if these teams are counting on a year off and not having to pay the “guaranteed” salary during that year.
When some of these teams starting filing for bankruptcy, then these players contracts could become “unsecured credittors” meaning most of the money would never be paid to them.
The Revenues teams are paying for these salaries and huge contacts may be more than they are bringing in operating an MLB franchise,
That is a huge flashing yellow light of caution to MLB and MLBPA
You do realize the Pirates are one of the most profitable teams in MLB, right?
Maybe everyone can’t spend the same. But they can spend significantly more without going bankrupt.
Bo knows long distance
No, third.
CRAZY!
Yep
42 million for a .220 bat?
A .220 bat? He is a career .300 hitter, hit .311 last year and was 2nd in MLB in doubles.
Bichette’s a 3-win player (we can’t toss his 2024 season just because it’s convenient) who’ll make $47m in 2026 by opting out after the season.
If Bichette’s playing 3B, that’s $47m for a 0.4 bWAR upgrade over Baty’s 3.1 bWAR in 2025, and Baty put that up in 200 fewer plate appearances.
Truly impressive planning by Stearns.
Better luck next time Dodgers!
$40 milllion wowzer
This came out of left field 😳
Which is where he’ll have to play.
Bichette 2B, Semien 3B (or trade).
Semien is one of the top two or three defensive 2B’man in the game. His value is partially in that defense. Could the Mets be thinking of Bichette for 3B?
I think Lindor is getting traded…
Yes, they are!
Bichette’s gonna play 3rd.
They just showed a tweet on Hot Stove that said that’s exactly where he’s expected to play. I may be wrong, but I believe it was from J.P. Morosi.
Boston reportedly wanted Baty in a trade for Duran. I think Bo plays 3B in that scenario.
Good luck with that.
Various insiders have already reported it @Sal. That’s the way they’re gonna go with it. Only question is, does Baty get dealt? Platoon with Vientos at 1st? Does Vientos get dealt to give 1b to Baty full time?
It’s a terrible idea, Bo’s arm isn’t going to be able to hack for a full season.
The Mets absolutely cannot stop with their ridiculous of box ideas. Get guys that play the proper positions.
Never mind..forgot about Polanco. Guessing Baty and Vientos both get dealt for pitching.
But Bichette’s arm is not strong enough to play a credible 3b, though that’s still quite an infield.
angt222:
I was wondering of the possibility of Baty maybe being traded in a deal for Duran. I’m not saying straight up. I don’t know exactly what the deal would look like. Not sure how much interest the Red Sox have in Baty either, but it could make some sense. Also, I can see the Mets making Baty like a Jeff McNeil because he seems to be able to play quite a few positions now.
Could be right, who would’ve thunk Tucker and now Bichette sign these crazy contracts so anything is possible. Bellinger will probably get close to his $35-$38 per asking price now.
No way Mets get Duran for Baty. Would need to add more.
Duran is not getting traded unless it would be something like Marte…. and personally Abreu is the one they should trade.
Salzilla:
I don’t know a lot about Bichette’s defense other than what I hear, but what I’ve heard is his range is the issue not his arm. If that’s the case, it should be a pretty easy transition to third base.
swanhenge:
Well, that’s what I said. I don’t know what the deal would be. I’m just looking at the possibility of those two guys being in the same trade. As far as what the other parts might be I don’t know.
Cooperdooper7:
I’m sure the Red Sox would ask for what they feel he’s worth, but we don’t really know behind the scenes who’s untouchable or not. He’s a really good player, but he’s not one of the best players in baseball or anything.
PLEASE!!! I’ve been a loyal Mess fan for 35+ years unfortunately (until now). Lindor is the most overrated player on the team. People talk about his defensive skills but he constantly botches basic routine plays that have game-losing outcomes. I’d rather they kept Jimenez over him. PETE OVER LINDOR!! Pete is a constant, reliable contributor! Lindor is a mommas-boy who constantly needs hugs and coddling.
Please put that noodle arm at 3rd.
Can you really trade Baty when both Polanco and Bichette have been so hampered by knee and lower body injuries for years and also have not shown any aptitude for playing the positions they are intended to play? Those guys will need to DH some to keep them in the lineup. Maybe you trade Vientos somewhere he can get more regular playing time and just have Acuna be the short side of a platoon with Baty? I don’t feel like this pushes Baty out of the lineup. Maybe out of the field and to DH more often, but even then, I’d be surprised if both Bo and Polanco play more than 120 games in the field.
Mike – I don’t know if I’d rather Boston pick through the Mets cupboards or the Astros. Baty isn’t really a needle-mover, but Paraedes could be a perfect fit. Even w the questionable fielding numbers.
As much as I love Duran, he could really bring back pieces to fill in a lot of gaps on their roster (3B/2B, LH reliever).
Short stop is a longer throw than third base. Bichette is out of position, playing third base. Very foolish idea, by the Mets.
If the Mets want Bo to play 3B they are going to be very disappointed. He simply does not have the arm, hands or actions. SS has always been a stretch – especially for Vlad at first.
Arm is the problem too. The article talks about strength of throw. The fact is that he needs to get all aligned to get power, and then he cannot consistently hit the glove. All that takes extra time. At 3B that accuracy issue will show even more. Anything to the hole on him at SS was a hit.
Nope, Semien was 2B in Toronto to Bichette at SS, and I see Bichette going to 3B at best — can he throw well enough? The Blue Jays didn’t offer 42M AAV for Bichette, and notably they know more about his health than anyone. If I were in Jays front office I wouldn’t want to offer the optional drop-outs. One year isn’t good enough when you have an excellent 2B athlete who removed all doubt in the play-offs about his offense and defense.
I predicted earlier today that the Jays would snap up Bichette today. Instead, my NL team did. Will the Jays play defense and grab Bellinger? No predictions. I’d be happy to welcome his bat and glove, and see him leave the Yankees, though…
BoBichettesInjuredAgain
Salzilla, to me it would be worse playing Bichette as SS or the keystone where great range is required. His arm is below average in strength, but his range was the worst in MLB at SS. That was his biggest issue on defense. His arm while not as strong as others, was very mid in accuracy. He should do better at 3B than he did at SS or than he would have done at 2B.
Polanco or Baty is the primary DH.
Yes. Reports suggest the plan is to play Bo at 3B and move Baty around the diamond (or OF) because they like the positional versatility and athleticism he showed last yr at 3B AND 2B.
Pete’sView:
It stated that his arm strength is only a little below average so what makes you say this?
Pete’sView:
What makes you say that Bichette can’t handle a full season at third base?
Duran is not gettting
RS 3-4 major leaguers lol!
Baty, Jett Williams and Tong for Duran and Bello. BOSTON gets 3B and 2B. Mayer becomes super sub.
To be fair the stankees also do this
Yeah Bo will be horrible at 3b. I’m going to miss his bat but I’m glad I don’t have to watch him pout about everything now. He did not want to have any fun. Baseball is a serious game to him. He doesn’t want to show any emotion at all. Would not take part in any team cheering and wanted no part in wearing that HR jacket (which is a stupid celebration to be honest). Mets should just leave him at 2b. He will end up at 2b. Bye Bo!
They have no idea he can play 2B. Bo is a nice addition for any team but no way is he worth $42M in any one season let alone three.
bullred:
Bichette’s arm strength is the same as Bregman’s. He doesn’t need the same range at third base as shortstop. I don’t really get this take that he’s going to be horrible. Maybe he won’t be good but this seems like hyperbole.
Bo should absolutely be tried at 3b. He is not an accurate thrower constantly pulling the 1b off the bag. He is not a hard thrower constantly allowing runners to reach base. Bo doesn’t have a good turn or good footwork. What he probably needs is to try it from a little further away at 3b.
No. LF would have been Bellinger.
Came out of the infield 😅
No, Soto would have gone to LF .
And that’s where they should convince him to play.
Out of nowhere.
Come on Breslow. This was the easiest way to fix the infield issue and would have resulted in an A+ off-season for the Red Sox.
Nahhhh
What does faulting the red sox have to do with bichette deciding to play for the mets?
@mogu try to make the leap. He’s saying the Red Sox should have done more to make sure they signed Bo, and not the Mets. Not that hard to figure out.
Yeah, congrats on Bo for getting paid, but I’m just complaining about the Red Sox here.
@eatpoo The leap was lazy. A blind man could figure it out. But still was bichettes decision at the end of the day, try to make that leap.
Im so used to mariners fans dead serious about this stuff. On that note, Shout it into the endless void! We’ve all been there
They could try to corner the market on Suarez’s this winter.
They’re gonna get Brendan Donovan. Not as good as Bo obviously but hella cheaper.
Donovan to the Giants depending on how willing Buster is to give away a top pitching prospect.
42m is way too much. Red Sox weren’t going there. I thought Phillies were going to go too high at 30+. 40+ is just insane.
Not a great 24 hours for Philly, but at least they didn’t go to the crazy end of the stupid money spectrum.
@HeelField,
I’m fairly certain VonPurpleHayes, CarverAndrews, and I will be watching that lineup again; but don’t let me spoil your fun.
Now you’re putting conditions on it. No fair.
It won 96 games
Your logic is flawless, and it’s based on hard facts and not anecdotal evidence. Therefore, I’m starting to be concerned.
That lineup was 7th in wRC+ as a team last season. They can definitely hit.
The pattern is null.
The Phillies outscored the Dodgers in the playoffs last season. 3/3/8/1. There were no games they scored 18 runs and no games they scored 2 runs. Their pen just couldn’t hold leads. Now if you are talking about the Dodgers, in two of the games in that NLDS they only scored 2 runs.
The Phillies needed bullpen help, not another hitter. They still do.
The Dodgers scored 18 Rs to PHI 9 Rs. But most important the Dodgers won that series. Try and spin it however u want, but who wins any given series is ultimately what matters.
BTW, I believe they need to replace Suarez in rotation as well. Im not trying to b negative here but thats a reality for PHI.
Yeah not improving the team for a year with bo while the core aren’t all fossils yet is a great way to go
Why do you care how much he gets for a year when he’ll be off the books after next year
Would he have improved the team? Of course and it’s not like there are many options left in free agency
LolMets doing Mets things. Good luck bo
You guys are weird and obsessed. Seek help
They just took on Semien’s deal to play GG 2B, have a $300M SS, and gave how much to Polanco to replace Alonso — is Bo playing at 3B? Is he playing 2B and you just dumped Nimmo for no reason…? So many questions.
And then there’s the pitching. High-end rookies with little ML experience…and which Devin are you getting?
I think the easiest answer is that they’ve not created such a surplus of infield depth that they’ve opened up the trade market for themselves. Outside of Bellinger, there isn’t an impact FA OF bat left. Now they’ve got options with Baty, Vientos, Mauricio, etc as trade chips to fill the OF vacancies with someone more impactful than, say, Harrison Bader.
So you are saying the Mets have some question marks going into 2026? Welcome to how Mets’ fans feel EVERY off-season.
update: Bo is expected to play 3B — full NTC. Let’s see how they use some of those IF prospects as trade bait and/or depth.
Bo at 3B…good grief, what a bad idea.
RunDMC:
Semien plays second and Bichette plays third. Nothing complicated there. They will probably rotate first. Polanco will get some first. Baty might get some first. Vientos might get some first. It depends on if anyone gets traded. Not really that crazy of a plan. They still need a high-end starting pitcher and I believe they will acquire that, but they do definitely need that. And if they don’t get that, I think it’s a problem.I have no concern about McLean. The rest of the rotation did struggle in a huge way for the most part towards the end of the year, but most of those guys do have proven track records, and it seems more of a fluke to me than anything else. As far as Devin Williams before last season, if you asked who was a better closer Williams or Diaz, you would’ve said Williams. Two years ago, Diaz had a so so year. There’s a lot of fluctuation with these relievers, even the great ones.
@Miken31 — Thanks for the reasoning.
Re: Williams — I get the volatility of closers, but a team like NYM should have more than one option since they can afford it. Like how ATL brought back Iglesias and added Suarez as a setup man/closer-in-waiting. Williams has always been better in setup. Not saying they were wrong with letting Diaz walk for that money, but they need more closing experience if having Williams whether Suarez or even Fairbanks, etc. An above-average/elite bullpen can make your rotation stronger.
And what if Bo is baaad at 3B – where he’s never played a ML inning in his life? Then 1B/DH? 2B and play Semien at 3B? Certainly there has been a contingent plan for that kind of money.
Is Valdez/Gallen much of an upgrade? I’d think Valdez is really the only option this offseason, but they do have the prospects to pull of a trade. But will they?
Someone is getting traded. Baty and Vientos on the roster together now is redundant with the signing of Bichette. One can DH while the other just takes up a roster spot. However, the Mets could look to put one of them in the OF which would alleviate the need to trade either. If Dom Smith could play LF surely Baty or Vientos can
Yeah. Bo in new York is a bad idea too. He is very quiet. He likes to stay out of the spotlight. In 2024 he clearly was having some mental issues. If the fans get on him for one of his cold spells (he can go nuclear with the bat, but also look like he will never hit again) or poor throws, this could go bad quickly.
In TOR he had it pretty easy that way.
It seems pretty clear to me that they moved Nimmo with the intent of signing Tucker and (rightfully) balked at matching that ridiculous contract he got from the Dodgers. The 40 mil for Bichette looks like a bargain in comparison.
Knowing what I know about Cohen and Stearns, my guess would be that the idea here is “sign the best bat left on the market and figure out the rest later.” They’ve been shuffling talented infield surplus into the outfield for years now; I bet Vientos and Baty start taking corner outfield reps in spring training and they roll with what they’ve got.
Point is, it’s pretty in-line with this ownership group to blindly pursue talent and then figure out the roster fit later.
run, Bichette will be playing 3B. Either Polanco or Baty will be the primary DH and the other the primary 1B. They traded Nimmo because he is getting old, he is declining to the point he is about average in WAR, he has been talking out of school about teammates, and he is owed $100+ million through his age 37 season.
Semien helps the team’s pitching improve with his superior defense, he is making $30 million less, and it’s only for 3 years.
4 of the Mets 5 starting pitchers are proven MLB starters and McLean is an absolute beast.
Devin last year was great in everything except ERA. Part of that was having one of the most porous defenses on the field when he pitched. His BAbip was 88 points higher than it was in Milwaukee, another finger pointing at bad Yankees defense. His FIP was 2.68, just a smidge higher than his career average. He actually improved on his BB%. He struck out 13.1/9. They are getting who he has always been, an elite relief pitcher.
Any other questions this Angels fan can answer for you about the Mets?
RunDMC:
I definitely want the Mets to add another high leverage arm to the bullpen. I believe that’s needed. Yeah we can’t say we know how Bichette will perform at third base but if his issue was range, it’s hard to imagine being that bad. It seems like his throwing arm is a little below average but not horrendous. Yeah Valdez would seem to be the guy to get. I would prefer Peralta or Skubal but as you said, then they have to give up the prospect capital. Valdez is only money. I myself am debating what direction I think they should go in.
Yes Semien should play 3b with Bo at 2nd. Bo can’t be horrible at 2b. It would be nice to have Semien/Lindor up the middle but not worth the pain of having Bo at 3b.
Baty maybe, Vientos probably not
Things always work out for the Mets; I’m sure Bo will walk away from his tenure happy, and wearing multiple rings to show to a satisfied, adoring fanbase 🙄
Bro, what are you even doing on this post then? Headlining insight btw, Mets sign a player and have a roster crunch and Charlie is upset because… what is it exactly? “Things always work out for the Mets” lmao like what are they supposed to be doing other than signing players they want to sign? Cohen clearly pivoted after Tucker, if you’re arguing that maybe the move was emotionally based, I mean sure lol, but like?
@Harold Skunk
Glad a Mets fan pointed out what this was. The second I saw the Tucker thing and how the Mets were tourned down after Cohen’s ‘look for the smoke comment’, I knew his price was going to do something to save face. Bo was exactly that. It was not about thinking through what the Mets really needed. It was a combination of the old Wilpons ‘grab the headlines’ playbook and Cohen’s fandom at play and that Cohen pride of being laughed at for the ‘smoke’ comment prior to tucker joining the Dodgers.
It may work out because Bichette is a good player, but if it doesn’t, there will be so much to unpack in the move.
GiantsFan81:
Yes, signing elite offensive players is something to criticize right? And what exactly is your team doing?
Missing the post season again as at least the Mets are trying.
Good for them – I would rather have him than Tucker
@Payne, if that’s your opinion then I would guarantee you haven’t watched them play regularly. Tucker still has his best years ahead of him. Bo’s best years are behind him. And I’m saying this as a diehard Jays and Bo fan.
Yeah I wanted the Jays to get Tucker but after he signed with the Dodgers I kind of wanted the Jays to get Bo even with his positional problems. At that price I’m ecstatic that they didn’t get him but I was hoping for another bat. Maybe a trade.
I mean for the price yes but not the overall player right?
Bo Bichette’s mom wouldn’t rather have him than Tucker.
If Tucker signed with the Mets yesterday they wouldn’t have even checked in on Bichette.
Thats because it’s called incest.
The Toronto Blueballs are back like they never left
Roller coaster team, don.t see Kirk, Springer, Cease, Guasman, and Hoffman on the upswing!
What do you mean? Literally every one of those players could have their best season in 26 other than Springer.
No. The aging curve is clear. The peak for position players is 26 and 27.
The good news is that the core of the Jays lineup isn’t old, but it’s also not young enough to significantly improve, whereas 3 of their front 9 in 2025 were post-peak. The bench will also be 30 or older.
And the pitching? It’s elderly.
Kirk will be better. Cease will likely improve with the Jays pitching coaches and being surrounded by great pitchers, Gausman was friggin gas in the playoffs with a poor record to show for it, he’ll be hungry. Santander will not be negative value. Okamoto is said to be a guy who translates well to MLB. A full season of Barger. Ernie Clement, guy who was almost out of MLB then last year had more hits in the playoffs than anyone in MLB ever. We’ll see, eh? Depth. It’s a thing.
Wow Phillies left at alter
I didn’t like the idea of them signing Bo but also trading Stott away to make room. Turner and Stott seem good at SS and 2B for many more years.
Stott over Bo? Come on!
Defensively Stott is better than Bo. Phillies do need some type of defense as they can’t rely on Schwarber to hit 3 Home Runs every night
Would have been Bohm being moved, not Stott.
Honestly, I thought the Phils were a long shot to sign him. Too many parts would have to be realigned. Seemed like the fan sites did a lot of wishful dreaming from a.video call.
Except for the guy needed to go to the bank for the $42M. Bichette’s a nice player, but $42M AAV is nucking futs.
It’s one year. What does it matter. He would have improved the team.
I don’t think it will only be for 1 year. No team will pay Bo 42 Mil a year and he knows that. You are stuck with him for the 3 years. The opt out is just for him if he can’t stand being a Met for 1 minute longer. He would need to give up 84 Mil but it might be worth it to him. No offence.
Assuming they even showed up to the wedding, that is.
The Phillies owner bragged about Stupid Money and then the Mets owner showed him the money. Did he have to change his pants after seeing some real Stupid Money?
Middleton made that stupid money quote about 5 years ago, lol. Some people just can’t let it go…..
Well that escalated quickly.
I’m really surprised it wasn’t a long term contract.
Good for the Mets
Red Sox and Mets have same issue with INF prospects and former INF prospects, might be holding onto them too long when they are asked for one or more of them in a trade.
Mets are ruining baseball >:(
Money can’t buy taste
I think you spelled LA Dodgers wrong.
Dodgers are great for baseball. Every story needs a villaiin
And in the long run, the Dodgers three-peating as we go into the lockout will put a lot of pressure on MLB and MLBPA because they know if they do the qwhole dog&pony show again, and come back without a Cap&Floor, they are going to have 20 fanbases that aren’t accepting the show this time.
Dodgers are ruining baseball.
Bo money. Bo problems.
Does Bo play 3B with his 1st (😱) percentile range?! Or Semien with his 11th (😱) percentile arm strength?! Oh my what a mess! At least they can hit the ball
Range is nowhere near as important at 3B as it is at SS or 2B. Bichette plays 3B.
No range. No arm strength. He may play there. But it will be played poorly.
Sean, Bichette will be a better 3B than he is a SS. He doesn’t have the range to play 2B.
Doesn’t have the arm strength to play 3B. But I do agree he will be better there than at SS. Borderline hack there last year.
Nothing borderline about it he was a hack but the bat is too good to keep him out. The Jays just kept him at SS to keep him happy. He originally picked the Jays because they promised to not mess with his hitting stance and to leave him at SS.
Bo’s parents told teams not to pick him as he wouldn’t sign with them.
The only lineup that makes sense for the Mets is as follows;
1B–Bichette
2B–Semien
SS–Lindor
3B–Baty
DH–Polanco
LF–TBD
CF–Benge, Taylor
RF–Soto
It’s odd that the current lineup isn’t written up this way anywhere. Putting Polanco in the field and at a position he hasn’t played is begging for a bad year from him.
Putting Polanco at 1B and Bichette at 3B in order to turn Baty into a ‘supersub’ when Semien is a rock at 2B, when there’s a penalty for platooning in your DP combo, and when Baty has only rarely played LF and 1B—is just foolishness.
It’s not difficult to see putting Bichette at 3B and Baty at 1B, but either way the Mets have just solidified their infield and DH, and are missing a real LFer and a #2 SP who can reliably go 160+ innings—with payroll already up to $353 million assuming Bichette opts out after 2026.
40 plus for a defensive liability 😂
I know. I thought Stearns whole thing was to improve defense
Yeah, so much for sticking with a plan.
That was always BS because Stearns knew that he was going to be letting go of Alonso early in the offseason. Even if Alonso signed late it would have been clear no later than early December that the Mets weren’t bringing him back. Stearns’ line was cover for that and for the plan to unload Nimmo. It was Public Relations tripe.
The pitching and defense line was always a lie. What competent GM / POBOs would limit himself to a very specific line of improvement, only, and exclude all other possibilities.
It should be clear to Mets fans by now that the Brewers’ success over the last decade is thanks to the front office that’s still there.
I love that he gets a bonus for leaving early! If that’s the case, why sign him in the first place?
I saw that bonus too and was like WHAT? Mets are going to met, what else can you expect?
To me this move reels as basically a publicity stunt to say “we are still a big market team and make big money moves.”
I don’t think this move was in the Mets best interest at all.
“I saw that bonus too and was like WHAT? Mets are going to met, what else can you expect?”
Every Met fan expects is this type of comment.
The most likely case is that Bichette insisted on that bonus in case there is a lockout.
You have also seen an uptick in the $$$ of signing bonuses this offseason and I think that is also because of a possible lockout by the owners.
Salaries don’t get paid during lockouts, but signing bonuses and deferred money do.
southi:
Someone better sign you up for their front office quick!
Not likely Bo opts-out after year one if there’s an impending lockout. Too much uncertainty.
His range is a lot less of a problem at 3B with Lindor to his left. Certainly can tolerate a lack of range more in a 3B than a SS. His arm is still only iffy. But honestly 2B demands *more* range than SS with the prevelance of left handed pull hitters, the lack of range for most 1B, the banning of the shift, and the way 1B have to be close to the bag. 3B is probably the best position for him defensively.
I don’t know if he has ever played much 3rd, and from watching the Jays, Vladdy had to do a lot of stretching and digging to take Bo’s throws from Short, doubt that will get better with him being further away…..
3B is actually closer to 1B on a lot of plays than SS, because they generally field things further up closer to the batter’s box. A throw from the deep in the hole between short and third is the longest throw an infielder can make, and most of the time that’s a shortstop’s ball. And shortstops are generally making throws on the run,where most 3B throws are made planted. I would say in general SS is a *more* demanding position on the arm.
Col, 100% on all of points.
Some of the best plays and longest throws have been from 3B “The Keystone Corner”
google.com/search?q=ken+caminiti+greats+plays+at+t…
Come on, this and letting go of the best reliever in baseball is all part of Stearns’ plan to improve our run prevention
Woah, did not see that coming. Odd fit. But guess they needed a bat. Maybe Bichette to 3B and Baty in trade package for Peralta?
Agreed Bo probably to 3B. Wouldn’t want to move semien off 2B cause he’s solid there
Bichette’s arm will be an adventure at 3rd. It’s playable but barely.
The other option is Semien to 3b and Bichette at 2B.
Semien with his 11th percentile arm strength? Yikes!
Bichette and Polanco share 1B/DH, Lindor and Semien in the middle, Baty or Vientos at 3B.
Bo won’t want to play 1B because it will hurt his value when he opts out.
Bichette will play 3B. Baty or Polanco will be the primary 1B, probably Baty. Polanco’s best position is hitter.
Yeah. Alonso and Freeman are begging for scraps.
A lot of commentators say he won’t play 3rd well. If it leads to getting Peralta though, I’ll probably get over it
Jays finally have a star that loved the team and they turn their back on Bo.
And the Mets did the same with Alonso. As a fan it stinks.
Nonsense. Alonso announced he was opting out about 30 seconds after the last game of the season last year. At least Diaz pretended he wanted to come back.
He didn’t love the team and wanted out. the Jays tried to bring him back and he wanted to look elsewhere. he said the right things to keep his options open but he wasn’t coming back to Toronto unless there was no other offers
They signed Vlad, the one who ACTUALLY loves Toronto.
Vlad, the one who actually loves Toronto’s MONEY!
Did he really though? He said he wanted to re-sign but they all say that. Deep down I always thought he would probably leave.
This is a bizarre signing for the Mets though, I guess they had to get someone to appease the fans.
Didn’t the Jays try to sign him to a long-term deal a few times?. I think BB genuinely wanted to stay in Toronto, but they clearly weren’t on the same page in terms of $$$.
You have nailed it succinctly, I believe. His agents tell him ‘have a great year and we can get you more next year…’
Bo has been looking forward to his FA shot for his entire career. His Dad’s advise, I think, but the past two years in particular, the Jays would have been effectively pricing in a home-team discount.
In hindsight, he obviously made the correct choice.
It’s naive to think that any athlete in a team sport loves the place that he plays in if it’s not in his hometown. This is a business. Athletes love who gives them the biggest paycheck – and even if they have a chance to play for a hometown team, it still has to be for a big paycheck. It all about the money. There’s no love involved.
*touching the computer screen sadly* :c
hahaha nice 😂
Where will they play Bichette?
Bichette at 2B, Semien at 3B. Or they may try to trade Semien.
Baty probably traded for Boston OF Duran or as someone mentioned here already, in a package for Peralta.
they just traded for Semien, why would they trade him again this offseason? plus Semien is a better at 2nd then Bo who is not great defensively
No
Bo will be at 3b Semien is staying at 1b
As of now baty is the 1b and polanco will dh primarily
On the I.L.
More infielders?! I’m so confused
So is Stern.
I’m guessing $45 mil per year.
42
Good. Now one of these other teams needs to go get Donovan from St. Louis … and pay the price.
And by pay the price, you mean shell out money to the team taking him like they did with Gray, Contreras & Arenado.
And thanks to that money “shelling,” the Cardinals now have the #1 farm system in baseball. You’re welcome.
Congratulations! Here’s a star for your forehead.
Bichette to 3B? Good for them getting a solid bat on a short-term deal.
that’s what I’m thinking… at 3rd for at least 1 year
Wow. As a Phillies fan I wanted him but 42 million is really steep. I think Mrts were desperate for a big signing. Bo will certainly get booed mercilessly. He turned down 7 years @ 200 million. The Mets are a team of infielders.
I’m sure bo will be worried about the booing while he’s counting his 42 million
At that AAV, why even include the opt-out lol.
If he wants a longer-term deal (maybe after the second year?), he would want the flexibility, though that AAV is pretty bonkers.
If he stays healthy and puts up some crazy offensive stats I could maybe see it…interesting that they say he’s going to play 3B. If he can play that position well and hit 30+ homers, he might have a lot of interest in his services even on the wrong side of 30.
“play that position well” Are you joking ?
Hit 30+ hrs? Are you joking?
Its possible. Hes getting thicker everywhere
Makes no sense. They traded for Semien to play 2B. They have Lindor at SS… where is Bo going to play?
Lindor to SD???
Padres have no room for Lindor and his contract is too expensive!
Padres always have room for another SS.
3rd or second and move Marcus
I’m assuming Polanco will DH? Lots of infielders…
Mets to Bo “here’s a ton of money, better start learning third base buddy.”
I mean all that’s left is the outfield. All seriousness though, it seems the only space for him is 1st and Polanco is DH. Consensus seems to be he doesn’t have the arm for 3rd. Way to improve that defense Davie
See Lindor’s socials…
Why so many opt outs? The Mets will be on the hook if he has a bad year, and if he plays well, the Mets will have to do it all over again next year.
Birdie man:
If Bichette has a great year, the Mets can give him an extra $5 million and then he has to opt into the second year of the contract.
Bellinger in seventh heaven.
Bichette the Met. Nice signing, Mets fans.
I guess he is playing third
Third Base? I Don’t Know.
And I don’t give a damn!
Mets to go with the infield in and only two outfielders.
LOL!!!
Thats cute.
Redsox need to trade for and extend one of Skubal or Peralta now, then look into possible trades for JRam and Austin Riley, also check Tatis Jr. The Suarez, Donovan, Peredes is always there…but they could snag a bonifide Ace for a big return, then use the rest for the infield
What a reasonable wishlist.
I love these posts where people think a team can just exert their will and get what they want from another team, or even the player, like the real world is MLB The Show. 😂😆
That’s the game with the Dodgers on the cover right?
guru day drinking again
or maybe day tripping
@Baseball-The Pads are not trading Tatis. Get a new dealer. you’re wasting your $ with the one you have.
Tatis Jr is not getting traded this year or for the forseeable future/
But, who knows what a New Ownership Group decides to do?!
Good luck on your MLB The Show franchise!
Why? The Red Sox have one of the best 1 through 4 in their rotation in baseball. Then they have about 7 good pitchers they can slot in at #5.
My advice is to ruin the friendship
The Dodgers created a million Steve Cohen’s after last night
JT and company sitting pretty.
He only moves on after bringing a WS ring to the team, so I am 100% sure any real Phillies fan would be fine with that.
Flags fly forever and prospects are suspects.
Flags may fly forever, but you sure don’t seem happy with the ones you have.
Ones? The Angels have won once in 2002. That’s it.
Another weepy Red Sox Fan still crying about Dombrowski
building the team with the most wins in Red Sox history
and who gave his Ownership Group what they ordered:
A World Series Championship OR Bust!
Championship Flags Fly forever!
Whining RS fans looking for a scapegoat and who
don’t check their facts are ridiculous!
I like the Phillies young players.
Looking forward to seeing the Phillies top young players: INF Aiden Miller, OF Crawford, RHSP Andrew Painter
generate excitement and fire up that veteran core
for a great season for the Phillies in ’26!
Win something before the Mets, Marlins and Braves come back to life!
There are only two teams in the entire league who would’ve given a non-superstar 40m+ annually. The Mets and the Dodgers. Baseball is absolutely broken with these contracts. The Phillies are close to a big boy, but still can’t sit at the adult table of two.
absolutely insane money for Tucker and Bo. Bo is the best….but not $42M a year best for a 2B.
The Mets are building an impressive collection of 2Bs. Cohen and Stearns prove to be geniuses yet again!
Still need one that can hit AND play defense – those traits should not be mutually exclusive.
In terms of spending, it’s really the Dodgers, Mets and then a big drop off this year.
One third of the league not having a TV contract could have something to do with it.
All MLB teams have TV contracts. Some just have MLB doing the technical broadcast and negotiations with the carriers. They don’t have a “guaranteed” coming in from the RSN’s anymore, but those team owners and MLB are not allowing their games to be shown live on cable, satellite, and streaming carriers for free. In many cases they get a large percentage of the advertising money so that far than makes up for the lack of consistency in TV money.
I have not heard the teams that lost their TV contracts in 2023 and had MLB take over complaining. 2 of those 3 teams have increased payroll since then so revenue must be still coming in.
Bo Bichette gets paid more per year than Judge now. Lol
Inflation
Looks like the short-term high AAV deals are the way to go this offseason. I wonder if Bellinger will take that offer from the Yankees or if the Mets snag him as well. The market is moving a lot faster now.
Congrats to Mets fans, this is a great signing for you guys.
I think Belli takes the long-term deal as he’s already done a short, opt-out one. If they are still in, the Yankees are going to cave for that sixth year. Blue Jays could enter his market to drive up his cost.
After all the reports that they were concerned about defense, they signed both Polanco and Bichette in one offseason?
Sounds like they lied
More like the musical chairs music stopped and
the Mets leadership was scambling to get one of the available chairs,
The reports were that they were concerned about defense up the middle.
Polanco will now either DH or play 1B.
Stupid move. It makes no sense they pivoted to him and not Bellinger. I also figured the Blue Jays would circle back to Bichette
They may still get bellinger
No thank you to Bellinger unless you bring in the right field fence or you get him at a discount.. His home/away splits last year are ridiculous. He’s tailor made for Yankee Stadium..
Mets offered Bellinger $5MM to just not sign with them. Same as Bichette with fewer years.
Surprised he didn’t go to the Dodgers on 3 years 250 million.
The Dodgers payroll sits at 413 right now (should be higher but all the tax evasion from deferrals)
The AL Central as a whole is at 573 million.
Yeeeaaah sure, give the Dodgers the ability to buy literally any player they want. Nice even playing field.
GTFO
Looks like its gonna be a LONG “LOCKOUT/STRIKE”.
I figure we have one more year of MLB baseball without interruption. (2026).
After than, then the wheels may come off MLB /MLBPA and
we will see you, maybe, in ”28 or ’29.
If the players are smart, they will strike before this years playoffs. Playoff money is nothing to them any more. But it is to the owners!
The opt-outs are a nice touch but no way he’ll do that. No team in the league will ever give him $42MM a season. That’s crazy.
The free agent class is very thing on position players next year and Bo wouldn’t have the QO attached. With a strong season he’d be in line for a lucrative long term contract
Another team doesnt have to give him $42M a season to make it worth it. They have to beat a 2yr $84M deal. So next year someone offers him 6/200M, works to the player’s benefit See Bregman’s deal for reference.
It is reported Phillies offered 200 million for 7 years. He wants the AAV.
He actually wants another go-round in free agency without the QO attached to him. As BPF mentioned above, all he has to do is beat a total of $84M and he’s good to go. Just like Bregman did this year. The situations are almost identical.
Does he want it or does Boras want it?
And if the Lockout/Strike completely changes the rules, formulas and makes it harder for players to get that kind of $$$$ then who makes up his losses?!
Yes! The QO really restricted his market and pay. GTFOOH!
Don’t know MLB owners are that stupid, the Dodgers would just to blow up baseball some more.
They want to maximize profits.
Can’t blame either side for getting what they can reasonably
negotiate.
But, if the market shifts and if they have made an unsustainable financial deal then
that could be “the big one”
as in financial earthquake for MLB.
He doesn’t need to average $42M/yr. in a long-term deal after he opts-out. Alex Bregman opted out after an average season by his standards.
1 year 47 mil
Dumbrowski gags again
Phillies offer was 200@ 7 because he said he wanted long term.
Not always. Do you think Diaz went back to the Mets after working out a deal with the Dodgers? No one thinks he did. If he had, he’d still be a Met.
Childish name calling directed at a 1st Ballot Hall of Fame
Executive Dave Dombrowski
who has built at least 5 MLB teams into Championship calibre
teams: Expos, Marlins, (2X), Tigers, Red Sox, Phillies…
I hate these contracts for the team:
Play good, walk in a year, or two years, whichever you want.
Play bad or get hurt and the team is on the hook for $126M for next to nothing.
Good luck Mets.
dude have you never heard of an opt out, that is the way they work
No I never heard of this “opt out” you speak of. What a tool.
Im a Red Sox fan:
Play good opt out like Bregman.
Get injured opt in like Sale.
Multiple opt-outs are almost always poor deals for the team, not that I didnt know what it is.
There’s also the third option where a player has a good year, opts out, another team signs them, and they begin their decline leaving the second team on the hook for the down years. People act like if a player has a good year that they will also be good the next but that’s not always the case. A good example of that is one Bo Bichette.
“A good example of that is one Bo Bichette”
When? Didnt he play his whole career with the Blue Jays and never opt out of anything?
Wow, nothing like being intentionally obtuse for no reason whatsoever. He has up and down years as anyone who takes a quick glance at his stats can see. No idea why you’re so salty but maybe don’t take out your own misery on strangers.
No idea what youre talking about. I didnt say anything salty to you. I legitimately thought you wanted to have a conversation. I dont have time for this.
Go away now.
Nah, you’re just played dumb and you called Bag a tool. Also, “Go away now.” You’re definitely behaving like an adult, here. My apologies.
Seek help dude
Why? I don’t need to take out aggression on people pointing out that opt-outs can benefits teams. I’m perfectly capable of understanding that concept without calling people names.
He said
“dude have you never heard of an opt out”
So I said
“what a tool”
====
What a bizarre take you had on that interaction. Is it a 2nd account of yours, or do you run around the internet defending complete strangers?
Go away now.
Someone explain this to me
Oddddd, where is he playing? Is Lindor getting traded? Because he honted at something big happening…
Surprised by this one for sure, holy cow. For sure there’s another shoe dropping.
He was probably thinking that they were signing both Bo and Tucker for what amounts to about 100 million. Struck out on Tucker and Bo jumped as soon as the Tucker signing was announced. Probably held off on Bo announcement until Tucker made his decision and then announced. Happened way to quickly for them to pivot like that.
Lindor is the face, not Soto. They’re not trading him.
Regardlessof a trade, when you sign Soto for that much he’s instantly your front man.
Read recently that Soto is finally going to work on his Defense and try to be at least an average defender?!
700M and plays bad Defense?!
Ridiculous!
And steal bases
Realmuto signs back with Phils in: 5, 4, 3, ..
Pretty close…
Phillies are adding and substracting.
Many of those playoffs Series and the World Series could have gone to either team.
I did not see many blowouts in those games
Just one or more key hits and the entire script and endings
flip to the oppposing team(s).
Let’s see if the jays panic and offer absurd money to Bellinger. It’s what boras is waiting for.
Bellinger is actually probably the best roster fit for the Jays.
I agree depending on years and price of course. Not worth 35-40M a year nor would I want to see him for 5+ years.
I’d dont agreed C. Bellinger hits about the same as Nathan Lukes away from Yankee stadium. He is obviously a better player but not enough of an improvement to justify a huge deal.
Jays are probably best to wait until the deadline.
Lukes is getting pushed to 5th outfielder either way so why make that comparison. The outfield (on most days) as it currently stands will see Santander/Springer in one spot, Varsho in center and Barger, with the signing of Okomoto, is getting pushed to RF on most days. That leaves Straw as the defensive 4th outfielder and Lukes as 5th or traded, with or without a Bellinger signing.
Bellinger would fit nicely on a lot of teams since he plays multiple positions and can hit and hit with power.
seems like deju vu with tucker, so are we to assume bichette to dodgers as well?!
These are the same sources who said he was a lock to sign with the Phillies in last few hours. I dont want Phillies to pivot and give into JTR. Now we trade for Ketel Marte! (i wish)
Does look like the Phillies may have to bite the bullet and either give into Bellinger and Boras wants or maybe overpay for Marte. Phillies could stick with the roster they have and give it a go for 2026, resign JT, and run it one more year.
I agree. Also work the trade market.
Dombrowski is a master working the trade deals.
Waste of money. Good for Bo but embarrassing desperate signing by Mets.
Tha seems like a lot of money for a 4 WAR player who is going to have to move to 3B or 2B or even 1B.
why would they give him a $5M bonus to opt out?
its the mets…
I like this pivot. Probably means he plays 3B with Baty getting traded to Boston for Duran. Just my speculation.
I think you’re right. Vientos could be the alternative, but a trade with Boston makes a lot of sense now.
It’s Bo time!
A package of Baty and prospects for an arm incoming?
I’d say so… a package of a few for an arm
I hope they don’t trade Baty, but he does have value right now
Mets now have 7 or 8 guys that can regularly start on the IF, and 1 and a half OF. Red Sox have tons of OF and need at least 1 IF. I wonder if there is a trade forthcoming.
Goodness.
The Mets.
Bo, Bo, Bo…..
Good luck.
Stupid is as stupid does.
This is a great deal for the Mets. It’s basically a one year deal and gives the prospects more time to develop. It’s the same deal they gave Plumpy. It does two things. It shuts up all the fans who complained about Plumpy walking and it allows the Mets to compete while shedding payroll.
Pitching staff sucks, but good grab.
CarryABigStick:
More stupid recency bias. Yes the pitching staff struggled terribly a lot in the second half for reasons there are hard to identify. But in the first half of the season, they were one of the best pitching staffs in baseball. Also, all of the guys on that pitching staff have a track record of success. They need one big starting pitcher and that’s all they need.
Baty is athletic enough that I can see them giving him a shot at 1B.
Arm strength has been a question about him but they got Semien at 2B now. Will be sure to keep eye on how spring training goes for the infield.
The Mets are ruining baseball waaa waaaa waaa. It’s not fair. Waaa waaa
It’s the Mets so they will screw it up.
No one is saying that. If anything they are saying that the are ruining themselves, lol
So Bichette is gonna play 3rd..guess Baty becomes trade bait..
3B?? I’m not buying into that. I think they will convince him to play LF, which will be good for his long term value.
LF have more value than 2B? Don’t think so.
Moving down the defensive spectrum doesn’t tend to increase value
Just for the Mets fans sake I hope he gets hurt tripping over the piles of money they gave him. I keep thinking of Scrooge McDuck jumping into his pile of gold
Are you a Mess fan? You must know the track record of high-priced free agent signings falling flat or spending 90% of their time on the IL (Lindor, Matsui, Bonilla, Bay, Alomar, BELTRAN, Cespedes, Lowrie…) Jeez I literally cannot even name all those mistakes…so many…
Speaking of whom, how many more years does Bobby Bonilla Day have to run?
If averaging 158 games a year and a 6 WAR over the first 5 years of the contract means “falling on his face and spending all his time time on the IL” then you are indeed correct about Lindor lol.
Also good call on Beltran, who posted a 31+ WAR over 6 seasons in New York then got flipped at age 34 for Zack Wheeler.
Terrible move!!! What a disaster!!!
Baty, Vientos, Sproat makes a pretty nice beginning of the groundwork for a Skubal trade….. Of course the Dodgers can counter by starting with Pages.
Obviously, you know little about the Detroit roster. They don’t need a LH 3B, or a 1B.
I like the signing, but opt outs after years 1 and 2 not as appealing. After year 2 would have been fine, but both makes it less exciting.
The players union got to be loving these high AAVs. Kinda sinks the owners “we need a salary cap” argument if they can afford 30, 40, 50, 60 and 70M dollar a year contracts.
I’m contrarian on a salary cap. I think most owners like the current luxury tax system because they collect all that lovely money from the Dodgers and Mets of the world.
I’m also contrarian on the “inevitable” lockout. I think the owners will get a new CBA like they got the last CBA, by showering money on the grunts. A big increase in the minimum salary and the performance pool for early-career players. And the new CBA will crank the luxury tax rates through the roof.
I dont even know if the owners want a cap. Sure they might have a better chance of winning but they make so much money now from the big spenders, I assume they would make less if there was a cap.
The big spenders will still sit at the top of the cap space and just get the players they want for cheaper thus more money into their pockets. Cheap owners will still not spend with or without cap space. Even if you put a floor in cheap owners will hang at the floor and just give stupid contracts to just get to the floor.
Baty to 1st? He seems to be a good enough athlete to play it better than Polanco would have.
If that happens, I like this. If they trade Baty, I don’t.
Agreed. Baty is slowly developing and is already a very decent 3b.
Not sure I like this signing, don’t care about the money, I just would rather see Bichette share DH and 1b with Polanco and save wear and tear on their legs.
Leave Baty at third backed by Mauricio. Trade Acuna and Vientos, see if Benge and Jett can be part of a LF and CF rotation.
Not a bad idea.
I hope this makes Met fans happy. Congrats to the Mets, get a star. Also, Bichette at third is kind of a oh no.
Nope. Doesn’t make up for the losing of PETE. Nimmo was difficult too because he’s such a hard worker who tries with all his might and has a good work ethic and demeanor. But PETE was a consistent producer who never gets injured and played decent defense…better than they give credit for. Pete just looked bad at times because he’s so big and not agile. This is coming from a Mess fan of more than 35 years who watches over 150 games per year. This is a fail signing. A “WHY?!?!?!”. A WASTE!
So Mets fans are still unhappy. What will make you happy? Would signing Tucker done it?
The Mets’ rotation and bullpen back end are still pretty weak. They’re also a subpar fielding team and going in reverse. Feels like emotional move. Even Bichette isn’t sold, with annual opt outs and $5 million incentives to exercise them. Really odd.
Lindor and Semien up the middle will be solid, and if Baty slides to 1b, he’s shown he can adapt well to different positions. Taylor in CF (for now) is solid too. Bichette at 3b I don’t like, not with his arm strength, but his poor range at SS can be less detrimental at 3b.
Bullpen is not weak. We have Minter coming off an injury, Raley is decent, luke weaver, Williams, (Dylan Ross)rookie can be the next closer or set up guy. Thats 5 stable pen pieces. The rest is just pick a guy and see if he works out. Most of the mets starters last year were all injured. We can have a rotation of Senga, McLean, Manaea, Peterson, Sproat, Holmes. That would be good. If we get another ace or bettter you can see a Valdez, McLean, Senga, Manaea, Peterson, Sproat situation. Would love to see Tong again after he fixes his problems.
Third base? I thought his arm was questionable. Does this move Baty to first? Or do the Mets want to get Bellinger for first and trade Baty?
Lot of questions. If Bichette has a big 2026 he’s probably gone after one year. I guess the Mets will worry about that later.
42m a year is crazy. Phillies can’t afford that.
What’s wild is, if Tucker didn’t sign first, Bo is probably a Phillie.
Bichette’s AAV more than Aaron Judge. What a world
They had to apply the Scump 10% tariff to the AAV
I will say this. Even though they were early the Alonso and Schwarber deals look great. Number 2 hitters are getting 42 and 60 million and number 3 pitchers are getting 26 million.
3rd base? Hmmm
Yes, but did Bichette fly to Toronto and visit a sushi joint?
2026 – Bo Bichette “earns” $42 million.
Entire career – Dante Bichette “earns” $42.8 million.
I know Dante is not highly thought of by the WAR community, but he was a pretty good player. That is some serious inflation in just one generation. This is not the difference between Ken Griffey Jr and Ken Griffey Sr by any means.
It’s almost like when the owners claim there is no money in baseball they’re all lying through their teeth.
There is money. Its just all in the few big markets. LAD and NY are amount the few. Tell us all about the lavish spending in Cleveland, Detroit, Kansas City, Milwaukee, Seattle, Oakland, Cincinnati, Miami, Tampa Bay…
Basically BB gets 47 mil for one year so he can realize how horrible it is to play for Mets.
Probably opts out after the 2027 lockout season, but basically the same result
Maybe head back inside and have some mashed potatoes with Mama Jenkins and Uncle Larry, huh?
Is that Bichette in LF? Nimmo was a pretty good defensive OF and the Mets had Mauricio, Acuna and Williams on the infield.
Hypothetically, if Nimmo and Bichette offset each other offensively and play a similar brand of defense in LF for the next three seasons, the Mets will in some way have paid 142M for the age 35 to 37 seasons on 2B Marcus Semien.
They were better off with Nimmo in LF and Acuna/Williams at 2B.
This is not going to go well defensively but a nice signing
Big overpay for a average player. MLB teams are paying a lot of money for some okay players.
The market of players ^^^^^
Money to pay certain players ****
Tucker’s aav over his deal is 60 million per year without considering def. payments
And yet here we are, talking about the Mets.
Avg player? Ridiculous assertion.
So Bo making at least 5 million per year more than Vladdy
Funny how things work out.
Vladdy shoulda waited to be FA this year.
Hindsight of course. After that WS he’d be getting offers higher than 60 lol
AAV doesnt really matter here. vladdy getting 500M guaranteed, bo maxing at 126M for this short deal. I dont think he’ll approach 500M rest of his career but we’ll see.
So that wraps up the yankees offseason
Yuck. Mets needed a lefty outfielder so they went and got a righty infielder, one who is moving positions. Yuck. Why not sign Bellinger? I hate this move for the Mets what a waste of money.
They didn’t need a LHB. Already have soto lindor polanco baty all strong from left side. They needed a RHB. Agree they needed an OF though and still do unless someone gets moved to LF.
Ah my heart breaks the Jays losing Bo! Say it ain’t so!! Great player, well deserved but damn that’s a high AAV.
Ok Jays turn a great off season into a stellar one and get Bellinger!
I wish the Mets good luck with Bo but he could barely handle throws from SS or 2B. Seems a bit of a reach to put him on 3B.
Mets playing guys out of their traditional or optimal position is a tradition no matter who the owner/GM is.
Baty had a good year in 2025. And the Mets are loaded with infielders. I hate this move. Its clear the Mets wanted Tucker and when he signed thry panicked and did this instead. I hate this move. The Mets are having a terrible offseason for a team loaded with money and talent.
It does seem like a panic move. Not a fit at all.
Amazing.
Now get Bellinger.
Magic ball says… Not likely.
Assuming many more moving parts to come with NYM. Offensive gap with PHI is close. SP is not as it stands today
This is cool but I hope it didn’t take them out on Bellinger. I’m not saying I love Brett Baty, but 3B/2B was already covered. This didn’t really fill any holes positionally. Bellinger can fill all 3 holes (1B, CF, LF) in their roster depending how young guys play and still give the Mets a chance to see who develops. Now I think the Mets definitely have to trade at least one person out of Vientos, Mauricio, Baty, and Acuna
Bichette is a great hitter but not sure how is defense will fair at 3B given his poor SS play. Worst case he can be a solid DH.
If all four are there in Spring Training, they’ll be taking fly balls in the outfield. Good chance though that three of them, some of our most hyped prospects of the past 4-5 years will be gone though. Siemen better set career highs.
Spoiler: Mets miss the postseason again, clubhouse in shambles, BB opts out, Mets fans stare into the sky.
Sheesh, the state of this game… thankfully, there’s hockey.
Lindor better eat his Wheaties. He’ll be covering a lot of extra ground this season.
No reason to believe the MLBTR writeup. Bichette would be far, far better suited to 1B than 3B on a Mets team that had a 3.1 WAR 3B in 2025—and in just 432 PA.
My first impression is that this is an absurd deal. Absolutely insane.
I dont think there is a greater indicator for the dollar tanking than these mega deals.
As a Jays fan I’m sad to see him go but the injuries worried me. All the best in NY.
Met fans who are grumbling and don’t like the signing …. Guarantee … by June you will love Bo and look forward to every at bat. It’s a great bat.
Indeed, I’m just worried about that opt-out after the first and second seasons, and with a 5 million going away present if he does like they are inviting him to do it.
We know. But where in the field do you hide him?
Players are realizing that they would probably maximize career earnings with short term deals reflecting their peak performance years, and making teams pay them to assume the injury risk. Bryce Harper hardest hit.
Michael Comforto did this. And it didnt end up too good. Its a gamble. Harper took the years. These other guys are getting paid now but will be lucky to have a job when they get to Harper’s age.
Harper had a different agenda and wanted to be a franchise player. For sure, he left money on the table. He took the JRam route.
I would have kept Alonso if going to spend 42million/year on a DH. That is what Bo will end up being, defense is awful. He won’t make it the first week of the season at 3B
I think his knees are bad too. He’s going to be DH or 1st. Base. His favorite throw from shortstop was a patented Tulo high arc underhand lob to first. He doesn’t have the arm for third.
I don’t get this move unless they are looking at rotating Bichette and Polanco at first and DH.
If, in fact, they are looking at Bichette for third, this makes no sense. Baty is an above average 3rd baseman and Bichette has not played there.
Vientos would be a good trade candidate if they are doing the Bichette at first thing. Part of a package for Duran, Peralta, Ryan who knows…
Lindor
Bichette
Soto
Polanco
Duran
Semien
Baty
Alvarez
Benge/Taylor
Is pretty intriguing…
You’re quite right that it makes no sense…speaks of desperation…Baty fields well and we’ll move him off third, makes no sense. Agree that rotating Bichette and Polanco between first and DH might be the best way out of this pretzel.
Tucker fit the Mets roster better, but to me this is a great pivot. Bichette is an elite offensive player. Defensively will probably be far better at third base than shortstop. That being said the Mets have about 8000 infielders. And they still need someone to play left field.
They have to play those young infielders to increase their value. Otherwise, all the money they ate in return for prospects when they ousted Max and JV was all for naught.
YankeesBleacherCreature:
Well, the Verlander trade is not relevant because one of those prospects has been traded and the other is a first baseman in the system. The Scherzer trade was for Acuna but whether he pans out or not Steve Cohen isn’t worried about the money he paid to try and get better prospects.
More stupid money
Do we still think the Bregman deal is an overpay? Asking for a friend.
Considering hes a lot older and his best years in the rear view, maybe
EITHER way, glad the cubbies got him n hope they are not done
Bregman has averaged 5.7 bWAR per 162 games played. Obv. his health and age-related decline are concerns. For a five-year deal, I don’t think it is especially if he is a catalyst for the Cubs to get back into the postseason.
They finally found their Carlos Correa replacement!
I thought Bo’s arm was too weak for third
Bo is an idiot
A rich one
Now the Mets can include Baty in the Skubal deal . Baty, Sproat, Peterson and Mauricio for Skubal ? Than trade Senga plus $10 mil to Houston for C. Walker, than Polanco shifts to DH. Put Clifford in LF and Benge in CF.
Or they could trade him to the Red Sox for pitching
Creative. Is that for one year of Skubal?
Not a competitive offer for Skubal.
And, it does not match up with the trading team’s needs.
After these absurd contracts, this is a win for the cubs and Jed Hoyer. Nice offseason Jed
More than vladdy and judge money to be worse than vladdy and judge. Lol. Baseball is so weird
Not happy as a Jay’s fan. Putting Bo at 3rd 😆 he is suited for 2B bc of his arm.
Insanity by the owners-he’s good but 42 per? Puleeze
Another infielder. LoL
Damn
Shorter duration contracts are telling you something: Owners are willing to pay up front to avoid being dinged by later-in-contract problems. Let’s see if Yankees fold on Bellinger and give him what he’s asking. Would be a huge mistake
Bellinger could go somewhere else like Philadelphia instead.
I could see that happening.
Bellinger can play all 3 OF positions and 1B.
lose Tucker .. throw money at the next free agent up .. doesn’t matter he probably quite doesn’t fit .. brt met’s made their splash .. more very expensive soto years to be wasted
Atkins fd this up again.
two off seasons in a row they put their eggs mainly in one basket and we’re beat by the dodgers and Mets. this off-season same thing. I get with ohtani, maybe Soto, but after they showed interest in Tucker more than a month ago, Ross has to read the room and realize this either isn’t going to happen or is going to leave you with little backup.
now what’s the backup plan. their pitching is better than last year but they lost a key cog in their lineup. Okamoto could be good but him for Bo is taking a big risk.
basically it’s Bellinger (who they will need to overpay for now and still compete with the yanks, Mets and maybe giants).
the Phillies are a joke franchise anymore. tear it all the way down and start over.
Ridiculous!
I like Bo and will miss seeing him in a Blue Jays uniform. Thank you for all you did for Toronto, all the best as a NY Met.
I can see a trade between the Pirates and Mets for one of their third basemen.
Another big bat leaving or not coming to the AL East. Fine with me.
Adell for Baty. (i wish)
According to Bob Nightengale:
“The Phillies had agreed to Bo Bichette’s request for a 7-year, $200 million deal last night and believed they would sign him until the Mets swooped in with their 3-year, $126 million offer after losing out in in the Kyle Tucker sweepstakes.”
It’s been pretty dark last few weeks in Metsdom. A lingering effect of the awful, listless end of last season and letting go numerous players fans were attached to.
I would contend that any team with the top tier prospects NYM have should not get so down. Especially with McLean who is the goods and then some
I wonder if Semien could bounce back in the lead off spot with all the weapons behind him?
1. Semien
2. Soto
3. Lindor
4. Bichette
5. Polanco
As a Braves fan, I don’t look forward to facing that pretty potent lineup. We can all complain about value and such, but I think NYM beat LAD when comparing the Tucker and Bichette deals.
Over/under on months he will be available to play during the 6 month season starts at 3.5
Happy to see him move to other East. Good player with shades of greatness. But the Mets really seem to like spending just for the sake of it. And for a somewhat similar total price, and at much less per year, the ole Polar could be there. As an O’s fan, eyyy, this is win/win.
But would they score more runs with Bo or with Pete? To each their own. Just seems weird for the Mets here. They want noisy off seasons and this gets attention so there’s that
Looking forward to those skyrocketing ticket prices and beer and hot dogs for $30 each
This happens every year at every stadium regardless. Including for the teams with owners who don’t spend and pocket all their profits.
If you actually watch Baty play, he’s a very good fielding third baseman. The statcast data you cited is misleading. This is a very messy acquisition for the Mets.
Baty is a plus defender at 3b by most measures, or was last year.
I was only intending to reference arm strength, not overall defensive prowess. I amended to emphasize that.
Finally,something to get excited about
This move seems more desperate than calculated.
SMH Friedman asleep at the wheel! Would have fit nicely at 2B in LA.
42 million a year is one more example showing that there needs to be a salary cap in MLB. Small market teams cannot compete with this.
A salary cap will do nothing to change that. Cheap owners are not going to spend, cap or no cap. All a cap will do is allow the teams that spend money to get those same players, they are already getting, at a cheaper price and allow them to put more money into their pockets instead of payroll.
Not a Mets or Dodger fan but I will say the Mets got a better player for cheaper money. That Dodger contract is an albatross and I am sorry but Kyle Tucker is a good player but definitely nowhere near $60 million a year, they got fleeced.
Overpay: worth 58.9 million euro per and not a kopec more
my sentiment as well.
But I get what the Dodgers did. Tucker was getting that kind of money, whether all up front or spread out over 8-10 years.
So instead of giving him 10 years 400 million, they bought out what will be the best part of his career for 240 million.
@haighwiser
That is a terrific idea. Instead of tee shirts for the champagne championship celebration this time around the Dodgers should wear Fleece.
This tells you the Mets are not sold on Mauricio or Acuna being part of the future infield.
This is a bit like the Cubs. You have a young player you had slated for 3rd. You have to assume they don’t believe they can hold that down and will be held as depth or attempt to deal.
If Bo has third bass, wonder who will handle cello
I dont see Bo as a fit at 3b. Baty is a solid defender there. Would rather try sliding Bichette to 1b or just using him as a DH. Stearns wants to emphasize defense more, so put them in positions that do this. Please don’t trade baty.
Spot on.
Bo will be the worst defensive 3rd baseman on the league. He’s not capable of that long of a throw
As a Yankees fan I never bought into the idea that being aggressive in the FA market was “ruining the game”. A team like the Yanks will almost never have access to top 10 draft pick talent. Don’t believe me, look at the core of the rosters that won chips for Astros, mostly the benefit of tanking for the better part of a decade. But I truly feel that the economics are being ruined by teams owned by huge money management firms that have access to billions in capital that they can borrow without leveraging their company, can set aside hundreds of millions to fund deferred contracts and have the expertise to flip that deferred money and turn it into capital gains which they can claim once those payments are due. But the glaring indicator that things are screwy is that two good, but far from the best players, like Tucker at $60 mil and Bichette at $42 mil, are dwarfing the earnings of better players like Judge, Soto, Witt, etc. Neither ranked in the top 25 in WAR last year, and though Tucker may have played a higher WAR if he was healthy, that’s still a factor. I’m not sure who’s going to be the next elite position player to hit FA or how long of a time lapse that might take but in the next 5 years, what team is going to be financially able or willing to surpass Tucker’s $60 mil mark not named the Dodgers, Mets, Jays or maybe Red Sox. Judge signed his deal 4 years ago. There’s no way Tucker should be earning $20 mil more than him. This winter the financial battle wasn’t the Dodgers and Mets vs the field. It was the Guggenheim Partners and Point 72 Assett Management vs the field and you simply can’t tell me otherwise. Hal “only” owns about 58% of the team. If any of the minority owners are willing to sell their what’s to a bigger firm like BlackRock that manage trillions then they’ll be a much bigger bully on the block.
Owner wealth has nothing to do with spending capacity. Zero. Nada. Teams spend out of their team revenue, not their owner’s pocket. You or I could own the Yankees, Dodgers, or Pirates and their spending capacity would be identical to what it is today.
That is not true………The Mets, The Dodgers, the Blue Jays and so on all have increased payroll before things changed in the revenue market. All that happened because OWNERS of those teams spent more (only possible when you got money). As a result of bringing in more “stars” which usually means higher cost contracts have resulted in higher revenue and/or playoff runs (which also results in higher revenue).
@Seam… this is a bit long but please read it.
The financial gap in MLB isn’t just about revenue—it’s about ownership structure and financial engineering.
The Dodgers are owned by Guggenheim Partners, a massive investment firm managing over $300 billion in assets. The Mets are owned by Steve Cohen, worth roughly $20 billion from his hedge fund success. For these owners, the team is just one piece of a much larger financial empire.
But here’s the real genius: they’re not actually giving away money when they sign these massive deferred contracts.
Guggenheim can loan money from their investment firm to the Dodgers to fund deferred contracts. That money gets set aside for future payments to players like Ohtani or Freeman. But here’s the kicker—Guggenheim still invests that money and keeps the capital gains. They’re essentially lending to themselves, moving cash from one pocket to another, and continuing to do what they do best: generate investment returns.
So while it looks like the Dodgers are committing $700 million to Ohtani, the ownership group is really just relocating money within their ecosystem. They’re “paying” the player with funds that continue working for them through investments, and they pocket the growth. It’s almost like financial laundering—legal, brilliant, but fundamentally inaccessible to normal team owners.
Compare that to the Pirates, where ownership has no massive investment firm to create this self-contained financial loop. They can’t loan themselves money, invest the deferred amounts, and capture those gains. Every dollar committed to payroll is a real cost they have to extract from team revenue.
The big market advantage isn’t just having more money—it’s having a financial infrastructure that turns player contracts into investment vehicles.
Yes but short term aav doesnt mean less money over the career. These wealthy teams will overpay aav for 2-4 years, but i think most players would want judges 360m or vlads 500m or sotos 765m guaranteed. Theyre gambling on themselves and may lose. If Bo got a 9/360 offer like judge, he wouldn’t be on the mets right now.
dam that sucks but I wish Bo a lot of success with the Mets
Nice. Now trade Baty in a package for Skubal or a another ace
Heh.
Boibo is my grandparents’ favorite player.
Plan on playing him at 3b? Lol better have a backup strategy. He might set the record for most throwing errors in 3b history!
Re Tucker and Bichette: The Mets got the better player.
Not by any statistical standard I can find. Why is everyone so down on Tucker? He’s a fantastic player. Easily top ten in baseball.
Bellinger would have been the better move than Bo.
It’s an overpay but if dodgers insist on escalating payrolls then Mets had no choice. In this line up, and with those opt out clauses, bichette will shine offensively
What does his salary and opt outs have to do with Bichette’s performance? You REALLY think he’s ever going to opt out? You REALLY think in the next couple of years they’ll be a team willing to give him $42+ per year?
If Bo stays reasonably healthy and his bat continues to be elite, he will opt out. My guess is it will happen after the CBA dust settles because it won’t be about the $42M per but the total $$$ then.
Even with the higher AAV than Philly offered, he’s betting on himself. If it backfires, he’s still set for life anyway.
The opt out clauses help because he will remain motivated to succeed, opt out, and earn even more, and not become comfortable that he has received some long-term contract
Mariners could use DH Vientos and 3B Baty .
Potentially SP Castillo, OF Raley could be available in a deal
Can we swap 2 for 2
I’d do it. but for L.uis Castillo the former Reds Starter and to reacquire Rhylan Thomas, not Raley.
All this shows is that big market teams do not need farms.
The Dodgers have the #1 farm for two reasons. They do not have to promote guys to fill holes like other teams and they do not need to trade away prospects to fill big league holes.
Other teams have to constantly pull from their farms to fill holes on the big league roster. Of course that will put them behind a team that doesn’t have to do that.
The Mets made absolutely no real use of Vientos, Baty, Acuna, and Mauricio. They could have, and should have, traded them as prospects instead of gambling that they would work out.
Other teams have to just ride with that group or trade them for very little and settle for the next group of prospects and hope for the best.
The Mets have the same advantage as the Dodgers, they just don’t use that advantage as well.
The Blue Jays should pivot by trading for Xander Bogaerts and/or Jake Cronenworth
For what, mediocrity? Knocking on the WS door, sideways, or backwards, moves aren’t needed
I was being sarcastic
Where is he going to play? They traded for Marcus Semien
3B apparently, although I bet Semien ends up there after a while.
I think this was an overpay on both Kyle and Bo for just slightly above average players. What the heck is 20 HR. Both the Cubs and Blue jays were smart not to bit. Plus with the Cubs it was addition with subtraction.
They’re both way better than “slightly above average.”
HRs are a very small piece of the pie. They are both elite offensive talents.
Neither are worth $42 nor $60 mil. I think we can all agree?
I disagree when putting things into perspective. Neither are worth that over a longterm contract. But you’re paying them a little more than fair value to buy out their premium years in their prime, while avoiding the dead money in the long run. A longterm deal would be at a much lower AAV, and while the players would provide excess value in the early years of the deal, they provide negative value in the second half. FWIW Fangraphs had Tucker valued at $56.44 per 162 over the past two seasons and Bo valued at $35.66 mil per 162 in 2025 (they have him at $39 mil per from 2021-2023).
Most players are underpaid in their primes and overpaid in their post-primes. Certain teams are hip to that now so they’re offering fairer value for their primes in exchange for not being subjected to the dead weight later on..
I thought Sterns would be the savior of the Mess. Now I fully believe he was a wrong choice and needs to go. He’s not right for the Mets.
BOOO STERNS METS FANS!! I definitely will be booing him.
Good player but that’s a monster contract for a good, not great hitter who is a poor defender with injuries concerns.
I disagree as far as him only being a ‘good’ hitter. A 134 wRC+ with a .361 wOBA (.311 BA) is excellent. Then you factor in that he led all of MLB with 59 hits (.391 BA) with RISP and he becomes elite. One of the most clutch hitters in the game with men on base.
This should be the NY Mets everyday lineup in 2026:
1.SS – Lindor (S)
2. RF- Soto (L)
3.3B- Bichete (R)
4.1B – Polanco (S)
5.2B – Semien (R)
6. CF- Bellinger (L)
7.DH -Vientos (R)
8. LF – Baty (L)
9. C – Alvarez (R)
Acuna, Mauricio, Tyrone, Torrens, one more player.
Why Baty in LF and Bichette at 3B? Wouldn’t it make more sense for it to be the other way around?
Baty is a solid 3rd baseman while Bichette has a fringy arm for the position.
Apparently analytics have Bo throwing a little over half a mile per hour faster than Baty.
Statcast has Batty having the stronger arm each of the past 3 years. That said he has trended downward and difference isn’t that great. Usually SS to 3B is about 1:1.
nah man, you bat Soto 3 and put your two best hitters in front of him.
I am really struggling with the logic to let Pete walk, then signing Bichette for 40 mil a year.
I’m also struggling to understand how this signing fits into Stearns idea for “run prevention” as the biggest area to fix.
As a Mets fan and a Raiders fan, I may have to start drinking again.
There is no logic, so don’t struggle. It’s a desperation move. Good hitter, poor fielder, no place to hide him, not at all a fit.
Subtract Polanco and Siemen and play Baty, Acuna, Vientos and Bo is the DH.
Age and contract length.
I used to think I’d heard every rediculous fan concoction on this site. But a Raiders fan who doesn’t drink? That’s less believable than everything else.
I hate the taste of alcohol more than I hate losing. Mind blown yet? LOL
I assume there is childhood trauma there, so good for you!
Still no idea how you put up with all of the other raiders fans sober though.
Think the Mets would send Acuna and Vientos to the Brewers for McGill? Allows the Brewers to add two pre-arb players, although out of options players which the Brewers usually don’t do. But the Brewers need power, and Vientos offers that, and Acuna can battle at SS with Ortiz. The Mets get a cheap closer and some roster flexibility.
I think a deal around Baty & Sproat for Peralta is a more likely scenario.
Acuna and Vientos, if traded, would get more value from teams like Pittsburgh and the Angels, who have immediate needs for their positions.
45 million a year for a DH lol
Polanco at 20 million a year is DH. Or 1b (one inning played) or 2b or LF – unless defense counts.
Mets paid 700M for a DH,.
They are now teaching him Defense.
Mets payed 700M for , basically, a DH.
They are now trying to teach him how to play OF Defense.
Yankees keep getting better by the rest of the AL East letting players walk./traded. No more Bregman, Bichette, both Lowes, Fairbanks , Mangum
lol and the Yankees got worse by signing Grisham and eventually losing out on Bellinger.. you forgot Okamoto and Alonso coming in as well. The Yankees are going to struggle to be 3rd this year.
So, every offseason now, the only intrigue will be if the very top free agents sign with the Dodgers, the Blue Jays, or the Mets.
It seems like the big spending teams change every few years or so. For a while throughout the 2000s it was the Yankees and Red Sox. In the early-mid 2010s the Nats were spending big. Phillies and Padres were spending stupid money in the late 2010s-early 2020s. Dodgers and Jays are on a whole different level. Dodgers ownership’s net worth is higher than a small country’s entire economic output. Their league destroying payroll is pennies to them. Blue Jays basically have all of Canada in their grasp, letting them easily recoup their expenses simply because they’re the only game in the land.
This is the longest MLBTR article I’ve ever skimmed
Not quite the 15/600 I sarcastically guessed, but I did call Cohen panic signing Bo after missing out on Tucker!
“Panic signing.” If that makes you feel better. It’s called signing a great hitter, because they needed one in the lineup.
I am sure that I am in the minority but for all the $$ that the Blue Jays spent, did they get that much better? They could be better, but do we know how Ponce is going to do for sure? Cease has a great arm but he can be so frustrating. Do we know that Okamoto is going to succeed in MLB? Tyler Rogers is 35. It could turn out great but resigning Bo Bichette would have been better than any of these signings in my opinion and C. Bassitt is a workhorse.
Neither the Dodgers and Blue Jays got meaningfully better this winter despite the money spen. It’s actually damn near impossible to improve upon the 2 best teams in baseball. Even if they did nothing this winter they’d both still win 90+ games and most likely win their divisions. At this point they just outbid everybody to prevent their rivals from improving.
I agree with you but I think the Jays are going to miss Bichette quite a bit.
Maybe, maybe not. There’s still some offseason left and there are potential trades to swing.
@Jarred
As ever, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Adding Diaz and Tucker to replace Kirby Yates and Michael Conforto respectively isn’t “meaningfully better”? Yeah, ok.
@Biv
As a Angels Fan I’m going to defer my answer.
Somebody scoffed when I suggested 3/$120. Turns out I wasn’t too far off. Yay me.
(BATMAN TV Show Narrator)
Meanwhile in Anaheim ……………………… crickets
C’mon Arte do something…….
So is LuisAngel Acuna now going to be shopped?
The Jays were smart not to come anywhere near this kind of contract for Bichette.
Hammerin’ Hank:
It’s a short-term deal. I can’t possibly see what major negative ramifications this deal would’ve had for the Blue Jays.
Why wouldn’t the Jays match this? After losing out on Tucker, considering the rapport Bichette has with Vlady and the fanbase. Makes no sense.
Short term contracts like these benefit players, teams, and fans so much. It requires good front office budgeting, and higher AAVs as the players take on more risk. But it is so much better than 36-40 year olds being a shell of themselves making 25M/year while frustrating everyone and creating blame games. That made baseball miserable.
So Bichette throws a little faster than Baty.
This signing is almost as head scratching as Polanco at 2 years 40 million.
No matter the owner, GM , the tradition of “let’s play this guy here and see what happens” is alive and well.
Over/under when Siemen or Polanco or Bichette hit the IL?
I imagine Carlos Mendoza sounding like Han Solo when he heard the news:
Bo Bichette? Bo Bichette? Where?
Bo will not even play 100 games this year big gamble by Mets with a guy with serious knee problems. Good luck Bo.
Bucky76:
What serious knee problems are you talking about?
You guys need to warn people that the stove is smoking hot today. I almost burned myself.
Mauricio to the Brew Crew plz
Let me think. Have the Mets ever brought in a shortstop in his late 20s who was playing at a Hall of Fame pace, and then tried to move him to third?
That would have been December 1971. It didn’t work out very well that time.
@Halo you must be referring to Mr. Fregosi. OT I asked Burch Patrick if the Munster episode where the issue was about .The Fregosi Emerald . I asked him if one the writers was an Angels fan? He said it had nothing to do with Jim Fregosi.
That’s funny. Jim Fregosi.
He had a 46 WAR by his 30th birthday. To put that in perspective, Judge was about 26.
The Mets advantage is that they have the Phillies in the same division. Phillies GM lives in the Stone ages and refuses to do opt outs and short-term deals. Younger free agents want short term deal so they can be a free agent again. The Phillies are the Flintstones and the Mets are the Jetsons at least when it comes to this deal.
Let me get this straight. So, you’re saying that Rob Thomson is like Fred Flintstone, and Dave Dombrowski is like Mr. Slate, and Bo Bichette is like either Elroy Jetson or Peebles Flintsone?
Absolute madness
Thats a good fit. Bichette fills a need for the Mets and allows them to push Polanco to DH and utility. Bichette’s defense should see an uptick at 3B since his biggest issue, his range, is not as much of a problem as it is at SS. He gets to both increase his salary floor and go back on the market prior to his age 29 season. If repeats his 2025 numbers, he will be looking at a floor of 6/240 to 7/280 on his next deal. If he gets injured or plays poorly he is still making $126 million.
Mets fans rejoice..
Unbelievable. A 3/126 million deal for a player who, apart from a .295 batting average and maybe 20 homers, really doesn’t bring much else to the table. He’s slow, fairly injury prone, and pretty bad defensively. Even at second base he’d probably be below average. Glad the Yankees aren’t buying into the insanity the Mets and Dodgers are pushing. The Dodgers and Mets seem determined to force a lockout…
DrCox:
How about OPS above .800 anlmost every year of his career? And if you’re talking about the Yankees, then I would say this is sour grapes. You’re glad the Yankees aren’t getting involved with these players? You’re enjoying them sitting out free agency?
This makes the Nimmo for Semien deal look bad in retrospect, they’d be a better team with Baty/Bichette/Nimmo at 3b/2b/LF than they are with Bichette/Semien/TBD (maybe Baty).
jakec77:
I think a big part of it is Nimmo’s contract is longer than Simien’s and they wanted to get rid of Nimmo’s contract
i dont think the contract was the issue as when you factor in the taxes you are not that far off overall dollars..
From the sound of it is more locker room issues but that hasnt been confirmed and would never be confirmed unless someone wants to out it.
Roll:
Well, I agree with you. The locker room thing does seem to be an issue as well. I didn’t mean to discount that. But his contract was longer so it’s definitely the money too.
with the money sent over its what 20 – 25 million over 5 years total? With the money they are going to pay on the taxes in addition for semien plus the potential cost to fill in that position for 2 years in the end it is pretty much negligible especially for the mets. i would say in the end it is probably 10 million over 5 years in saving assuming the mets use a minor league under pre arb to fill in that spot whether lf or 2nd base.
with the deals they made this offseason with what 3 2nd baseman acquired to an already log jammed positions between the mlb depth and minor leaguers doesnt make much sense. They definitely did not improve the defense with 2 infielders playing out of position and relatively little experience in their spots I know hindsight is 20/20 but they didnt stick to even their own plan to improve defense and definitely lost some to the lineup. Maybe it evens out if they sign bellinger but with this spend i doubt they do considering they need at minimum one front end starter.
i think they tried baty in LF and it was another Duda / Murphy type experience. I wonder if Bichette ends up as DH or try him at 1st with suarez becoming the dh since they said Baty was going to be 3rd base to start the season. Maybe try Baty at 1st not sure if he has any experience there.
Evidently a bunch of cash is more important than trying to win championships.
Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman:
🙄
Whew! Jays dodged a bullet with both Tucker and Bichette.
Not until they get past Bellinger, too. They could still make the mistake of getting into a mess with him.
Damasosburntjersey:
So you’re of the opinion it’s better to not get good players than to get them? Or are you someone else worried about an owners bank account?
$5 mil bonus for opting out of a $42 mil AAV contract is crazy work.
Some of the worst defensive metrics at SS and they want him to play the hot corner with a poor arm and limited range? Have fun with that!
Polanco at first and Bichette at third, what are they thinking? And overpaid on both. Should have just resigned Alonso.
I don’t get the pessimism. I think this is pretty solid for the Mets.
SuperDuper:
Most of the pessimism comes from fans of other teams, who either dislike the Mets or hate teams that spend money because they wish their team spent the money, so they find reasons to turn this into a negative. Easy to see through.
It’s 40+ million, plus picks, plus international spending for a $25 mill (at most) value second baseman when the Mets just traded for a solid second basemen….
It’s not clear if they even did a physical…..
Most of his value was his extra base ability….now he can’t run.
This will be a Rendon level miss signing.
In a vacuum by itself it is a solid signing but make very little sense overall
For the current team. 2B and 3B have about 5 or 6 guys on the 40 man before the signing and thats not including up and coming talent that can play the position and bichette was not great at SS so putting him on a new position he has never played including minor league is very questionable.
You are also moving a cheaper, younger, solid, homegrown talent to the bench. After all the turnover of long time mets this is not going to make the fan base happy. Especially when it is probably not a 40 million dollar upgrade to what was there already when you factor in he has no experience at the hot corner and was not that great at SS either.
This also doesnt solve any of the issues the team really has unless the plan is to unload the cheaper younger talent. to try to fill those needs (LF CF SP RP). If anything it basically creates more of a logjam and worsens the defense while also eating up available spending. Sterns has been saying all offseason the main focus is defense but hard to see 2 players out of position fitting that narrative . Especially when you consider that they never played those new positions and also were not well regarded defensively at their primary ones either.
I am done with MLB. And I have a feeling that alot of other fans outside of Boston, New York and LA will be too. This is becoming an absolute joke of a sport.
DTownWarrior97:
Who’s your team?
Doesn’t have the arm for 3B or SS.
brucenewton:
The velocity on his throws has already been established as being slightly below average. Doesn’t sound like an issue to me.
No worthy….
I guess he didn’t like the wait time in Customs after every road trip…
(Or was it the getting paid in Canadian dollars that was the issue?)
Dude
This was sarcasm right?
They take private charters, don’t really deal with customs in the way we understand it and not a Penney was pad in the glorious $CAD in his 8 years.
Stupid money. No baseball after 2026 good time to be Tucker and Bichette bad times for Philies fans.
None of the above.
Teams at the very highest MLB competitive levels
are closer in the rear view mirror than they appear to be to the lead team.
Phillies are reinforcing their team with top young prospects, trades etc.
Adding and substracting.
It is always a work in progress.
OK, I’m hearing conflicting things on this option. Here it says he gets $5 million to opt out of his contract which seems ridiculous and nonsensical to me. Why in the world would you give a guy $5 million to opt out? The other thing I hear which makes more senseis that if the Mets add $5 million to a salary, he has to opt into the second of his contract. That makes much more sense. But the article here indicates the former. Anyone know what the deal is?
Because it’s an assumed $47M one-year deal for Bichette. That’s the cost to signing him. If he doesn’t opt-out, the Mets save some money.
YankeesBleacherCreature:
And it still seems like a stupid way to structure a contract to me. If you want to keep him it’s an extra incentive beyond the opt out itself for him to leave.
If he has a great year, do you think an extra $5M or $10M for each of the remaining two years is going to persuade him from opting-out?
If the two sides like one another, Mets can extend him and lower his AAV/NPV for ’27 and beyond.
Ramos Splash Hit:
I don’t care too much about this part. You could always trade for more international pool money. And there’s plenty of players to pick in the baseball draft. Seems like as much a crapshoot as any draft.
Bo Bichette? More like Boo Bichette. Amirite, Canada?
Only if the Jays were prepared to match that money
I know the Mets are trying to emulate the LA model with their new-ish owner.
I’m just trying to figure out if it’s the LA Dodgers or the LA Angels.
With all of the talk regarding Bichette playing 3rd, I thought it would be good to see a breakdown of where he has struggled and succeeded over his career (via statcast):
Double Plays: -3
Out: +6
To 1B: -4
To 3B: -7
In: -27
Just my two cents, but that doesn’t look like a player who would transition well to 3rd base, where many of the plays require the fielder to run toward home plate before catching the ball. His 2025 numbers we’re more evenly negative across the board, but that may have been a SSS.
Side note: ‘range’ in statcast doesn’t actually mean ‘range’. It means everything not including double plays or post-play (after a single or after a fly out, for example) throws (or non-throws) for outs/advances.
I didn’t read all the comments, so forgive me if this is redundant. Brett Baty led the major leagues in Range Factor/9 in 2025. I’d feel better with Bo at 1B; he’s got to move his position anyway, and Baty already is a decent fielder at 3B. Why move 2 guys off their usual position instead of one? If this is being done so Bo will maintain his position value better when he opts out then it’s a bad idea.
Because David Stearns is a moron who only had success because he was in a weak division with no big spending teams and all of one playoff win. Hes an idiot.
No he won’t because there will be a Lockout/Strike.
The reports early on were errant. The Mets can add 5 million after the season to year two to negate the buyout.
Baty, Peterson & Senga to the Pirates for Keller & Mlodzinski now
No thank you.
I don’t get the thinking. The perfect solution is to put Bichette where the need was.
Lindor-SS
Soto-RF
Bichette- 1b/DH
Polanco-DH/1b
Alvarez-C
Baty-3b
Semien-2b
Benge-LF
Taylor/Jett eventually – CF
As a Mets fan, this is the right player at the right time at the right price. I am very excited to see how he does.
I really prefer these short-term high AAV deals to the 10+ year deals that never go well enough to justify them.
I wish there were no opt-outs, but that seems to be the new model.
This is not the right player nor the right price what are you talking about? Hes a bad fielding middle infielder with a weak arm, no height and poor reaction time. All things you need to play at the hot corner.
Next. It forces another 2 players to play out of position (Bo and Baty) which is most certainly not in the mold of “run prevention” which is exactly what that idiot stearns used a reason for letting Pete and Nimmo go.
You are not a met fan if you’re just gonna seal clap for every move regardless of if it’s actually a good baseball decision.
Having watched Bo in the minors and as a Jay his whole tenure in TO, I think he might get eaten alive in NYC. It seems like TO fans sort of gave him a pass for his defensive miscues (and there have been many); but I don’t think Mets fans will be as forgiving, especially at that cost! I also got a feeling that Bo felt like he was “above” everyone else – yeah, he’s a darn good hitter when “on”, but his D and his base running are awful (he’s gotten really slow over time). Not to mention he’s hurt quite a bit. If the Mets actually play him at 3rd…good luck with that. I know this move might have just saved Vladdy’s hamstrings! It might not hurt him to smile once in a while, too. It’s a game, after all. I wish him luck, but I feel like many Jays fans didn’t see him returning anyway.
“If he is moving to 3rd good luck?” He played shortstop for your team for years and you are worried about him playing a significantly easier position? Not sure how that makes sense.
This is why no one likes Stearns. He says oh we’re all about run prevention that’s why we traded Nimmo and let Pete walk. So we’re gonna replace them with one of the worst fielding second baseman and one of the worst fielding shortstops and make them both play out of position.
Not good enough? Well we’re gonna take a guy who played well at second base and stick him in yet another position he has played a total of like 20 games (all while in the minors and poorly).
Want more? Well we think the best way to prevent runs is by having zero athletes in the outfield to limit extra base hits, and by not signing a single pitcher especially starting pitchers which literally anyone with eyes who watched a met game could tell they needed since exactly one starter was aable to get out of the 5th inning for a majority of the year.
I hate you David Stearns. You should be fired. And by fired. I mean fired directly into the sun
Speak for yourself Stearns has been a great hire for the Mets. He shocked everyone in year one. And even for the first half of year 2 he looked like a genius. His starting pitching plan did not last but I agree with his philosophy of not signing pitchers for big money. Especially after the verlander sherzer disaster. He signed some of the best relief pitchers at the deadline and we were all happy with that. Helsley became the worst pitcher in baseball over night. That was some bad fortune. This organization has been a disaster for years. They finally have a farm system and some serious talent all around. It’s going to take time. To give in to all the non met fans redirect.
What I will say is that I really do not at all understand this signing. I’m happy they signed Bo and I would even say his bat is an upgrade from Alonso’s at least from a consistency standpoint. However I do not understand how this fits the game plan. The whole point was to finally let these young infielders get consistent reps. Letting baty build on what he accomplished last year. Acuna has barely gotten opportunities. Signing an outfielder like bellinger would have made the most sense. Especially with his ability to play first as well. Then we wouldn’t need to have signed Palanco. If someone does understand this please explain.
And the Mets will miss the playoffs again because, well, they’re the Mets.
BPax:
Weren’t they the Mets two years ago when they were in the NLCS? See how your argument is pretty dopey?
Can someone explain the $5m bonus for opting out?
There shouldn’t be a comma before “too.”
Bichette improved alot last year to finally become a top batter. Good signing NY.
So, 1 yr 42M + 5M bonus if he OPTS out??? Total cost to METS is $97M in that scenario for (1) year of Bichette??? That can’t be real….
Hmm…wondering if having this announcement takes them out of Bellinger since it feels like it be close enough to do a double if they thought they were grabbing him.
I really think he was the best one out there
Good for Bo passing the physical ! He had to be nervous.
He better wear two batting helmets when he comes to Philly IMO
Can’t wait to Booo Bo at CBP.