The Red Sox and Brewers pulled off a six-player trade on Monday. Boston acquired infielders Caleb Durbin, Andruw Monasterio and Anthony Seigler, as well as Milwaukee’s Competitive Balance Round B pick in exchange for pitchers Kyle Harrison and Shane Drohan and infielder David Hamilton. All six players in question were on their clubs’ 40-man roster, so no corresponding moves were necessary.
Durbin is a notable pickup for the Boston infield and should be penciled in for everyday at-bats — presumably at third base, though he can also handle second base if the Red Sox prefer Marcelo Mayer at the hot corner from a defensive standpoint. The 25-year-old Durbin (26 in a couple weeks) finished third in National League Rookie of the Year voting in 2025 after he batted .256/.334/.387 with 11 home runs, 25 doubles, 18 steals (24 attempts), a 5.9% walk rate and a tiny 9.9% strikeout rate. He turned in above-average marks for his glovework at third in the estimation of both Defensive Runs Saved (5) and Outs Above Average (2).
He’s not the big middle-of-the-order presence many Sox fans have coveted, but Durbin is an affordable, controllable and versatile defender who’ll further the Red Sox’ pivot toward run prevention and help to lower a team strikeout rate that was 10th-highest in the sport last year at 22.9%. He’s a right-handed hitter whose pull percentage (43.3%) is a bit higher than league average (40.6%), which should play well with the Green Monster at Fenway Park. Durbin comes to the Red Sox with five full seasons of club control and two minor league option years remaining (not that there’ll be any thought of optioning him to the minors anytime soon after last year’s strong performance).
If Durbin is ticketed for the hot corner, that’ll leave second base to a combination of the left-handed-hitting Mayer and righty-swinging Romy Gonzalez. Recently signed utilityman Isiah Kiner-Falefa can back up both those positions as well as shortstop.
The 28-year-old Monasterio could also factor in at either second or third base, although like Gonzalez and Kiner-Falefa, he’s a right-handed hitter. As is the case with Gonzalez, Monasterio also carries notable platoon splits. He’s a career .255/.352/.375 batter against lefties but a .246/.303/.338 hitter against fellow righties. He’s coming off a career-best showing in the majors — albeit in a limited sample of 135 plate appearances — having slashed .270/.319/.437 (111 wRC+) with four homers. He’s controllable for another four seasons and won’t be arbitration-eligible until at least next offseason (possibly later, depending on how much time he spends in the minors this year).
Monasterio also has nearly 3500 professional innings at shortstop under his belt, so he gives Boston another backup option to oft-injured Trevor Story at shortstop (alongside Kiner-Falefa). He also has a full slate of three minor league option years remaining, so there’s no guarantee he’ll open the season on Boston’s major league roster. He’ll have the opportunity to win a role in camp, but barring injury and/or trade, Boston’s bench seems likely to include Gonzalez, Kiner-Falefa, catcher Connor Wong and outfielder/designated hitter Masataka Yoshida.
All of that assumes that Mayer makes the Opening Day roster, but it’s possible that the former No. 4 overall pick could open the season in Triple-A Worcester, too. Mayer’s .228/.272/.402 slash was well below league-average in 2025, but he only turned 23 in December and has an impressive minor league track record. That includes a .271/.347/.471 showing in Triple-A last year. He’ll have every opportunity to win a starting job in camp with the Red Sox, but late additions of Durbin and Kiner-Falefa lessen the team’s reliance on the still largely untested top prospect.
Boston also picks up the 26-year-old Seigler, who’ll provide some depth in the upper minors and could be a frequently used bench piece over the course of the coming season. He’s batted just .194/.292/.210 in an insignificant sample of 73 major league plate appearances, but Seigler hit .285/.414/.478 with eight homers, 16 doubles, four triples, 23 steals (27 attempts), a 16.9% walk rate and a 19.2% strikeout rate in 307 Triple-A plate appearances this past season. He’s been used as an infielder (second base, specifically) far more frequently than a catcher in recent seasons due to troubles controlling the run game and a susceptibility to passed balls.
Even if he’s rarely deployed behind the plate, Seigler is at the very least an interesting third catcher option who also is comfortable at second base and third base. He has two minor league option years remaining and doesn’t even have a full season of major league service, making him controllable for at least the next six full seasons.
The Red Sox also add a Competitive Balance draft choice — the only picks permissible to be traded under MLB rules. Milwaukee’s Round B selection is the first in that round, currently 67th overall (although that could change by a spot or two depending on what happens with Zac Gallen, the final remaining free agent who rejected a qualifying offer and is thus subject to draft pick compensation). They’ll not only get to add an extra player but will also add that selection’s slot value to their draft bonus pool. Last year’s No. 67 selection came with a $1.285MM value. This year’s should be up from that a bit. The Red Sox don’t need to spend that amount on this pick specifically; the slot value will be added to their bonus pool, which they can freely divide up among their picks how they see fit.
Turning to Milwaukee’s side of the swap, it feels like a precursor to another acquisition. The Brewers not only traded their incumbent starter at third base — they traded two of the top depth options behind him in the same swap. Perhaps there’s some infield shuffling on the horizon, but it feels like the Brewers will need to add some help on the dirt. Hamilton could see reps at the hot corner this spring but has spent far more time at second base in the Red Sox organization. Shortstop Joey Ortiz and second baseman Brice Turang are plus defenders who could both slide one position over to the left, but doing so might weaken the overall defensive aptitude of the group.
Bringing in some help at third base seems prudent, but options there are few and far between. Time will tell if president of baseball operations Matt Arnold has another move up his sleeve, but for right now, the Brewers look thin at third base.
Their pitching depth, however, continues to grow — even after trading ace Freddy Peralta to the Mets last month. Today’s trade brings in a pair of big league-ready arms. Harrison, 24, already has 42 big league games (37 starts) under his belt. He’s pitched to a 4.39 ERA with a 22.9% strikeout rate and 8% walk rate in that time.
At the moment, Harrison profiles as a fifth starter option for the Brewers, but he carries more upside than most back-of-the-rotation candidates. The 2020 third-round pick ranked as one of the top minor league talents in all of baseball for several years, peaking as the No. 26 prospect in the entire sport on Baseball America’s top-100 prior to the 2023 season. He’s yet to put it all together in the majors, but Harrison has fanned better than 30% of his opponents in parts of two Triple-A seasons.
The Brewers have developed a reputation as one of the sport’s top “pitch labs.” They worked wonders with righty Quinn Priester in 2025 and have helped to facilitate turnarounds or breakouts from relievers like Trevor Megill, Joel Payamps, Bryse Wilson, Colin Rea, Nick Mears, Jared Koenig and others. There are plenty of parallels between Priester’s trajectory and that of Harrison; both were former top prospects traded to Boston and quickly buried on the Red Sox depth chart. The Brewers will hope to convert on that same profile for a second consecutive season now.
Drohan just turned 27 last month, making him old for a “prospect,” but he nonetheless sat 15th on Baseball America’s recent update of Boston’s system. His path to big leagues has been slowed both by injury and a selection in the Rule 5 Draft. The White Sox took Drohan back in 2023 after Boston left him unprotected. He required a nerve decompression surgery in his shoulder that spring, however, which limited him to 16 1/3 rehab innings that season. A forearm injury in 2025 limited him to 54 minor league frames.
When he’s been healthy, Drohan has looked the part of an interesting prospect. His Triple-A numbers are skewed by a rough showing late in 2023 and during some rehab work in 2024 — both potentially impacted by his shoulder — but he was excellent last season, tossing 47 2/3 innings with Worcester and recording a 2.27 ERA, a 35.3% strikeout rate, an 8.4% walk rate and a massive 17.3% swinging-strike rate. He also posted a 2.17 ERA in parts of two Double-A seasons and was part of the 2023 Futures Game. Drohan sat 93.3 mph with his four-seamer in Triple-A in 2025, complementing the pitch with an 84.7 mph slider, an 88.8 mph cutter, an 84.3 mph changeup and a 77.9 mph curveball (listed in order of usage rate).
Hamilton, 28, returns to the club that originally drafted him but traded him to Boston as part of 2021’s Hunter Renfroe swap. He’s played in parts of three seasons with Boston and totaled 550 plate appearances with a .222/.283/.359 batting line.
Hamilton hasn’t hit much but is a plus runner with 95th percentile sprint speed, per Statcast, and 57 career steals in 68 attempts (83.8%). On a rate basis, he’s been one of the game’s elite defensive second basemen during his time in the majors, piling up 16 Defensive Runs Saved and 8 Outs Above Average in only 679 innings.
The Brewers originally drafted Hamilton in the eighth round of the 2019 draft out of the University of Texas. Arnold and top lieutenants like AGMs Matt Kleine, Will Hudgins and Karl Mueller were all in the Milwaukee front office when they first signed Hamilton out of the draft. That familiarity with him both as a player and as a person presumably played a role in this morning’s trade.
Adam McCalvy of MLB.com reports that Hamilton will see plenty of reps at third base this spring. Whether his stellar second base defense carries over to third base and whether Hamilton performs well enough to secure a job will determine his roster status come Opening Day. He has a minor league option year remaining, so if the Brewers do make another acquisition or if Hamilton simply struggles to a great enough extent this spring, he can be sent to Triple-A Nashville without needing to pass through waivers. The Brewers can control him for at least four additional seasons — five if he spends more than 25 days in the minors this year.
For the Red Sox, today’s trade seems to largely round out the infield. With Kiner-Falefa also aboard as a glove-first utility option, there doesn’t appear to be much more room to add. Durbin should be an upgrade of a couple wins, and his extreme put-the-ball-in-play approach and defensive aptitude should help to raise Boston’s floor quite a bit, even if the offense as a whole looks suspect beyond the top few hitters.
The Brewers are now 10 to 12 deep in their rotation mix, which could set the stage for another trade. They could also simply hold onto that depth, knowing they’ll need an army of pitchers to get through a 162-game season and that many of their current arms have less than a full year of experience in the majors, but some form of additional infield depth seems likely to be on the horizon after today’s trade thinned them out.
Jeff Passan of ESPN was first to report Durbin, Harrison, Drohan and Hamilton’s inclusions. Will Sammon of The Athletic first reported Seigler, Monasterio and the draft choice.







NOOOOOOOO!! OUR TEAM GOT TALLER
JARREN DURAN SURVIVES!!!
Loving this!
Cubs’ fan also pleased (although feeling slightly bad for Brewers’ fans as well)
Why should we feel bad for Brewers fans? It’s their turn to lose.
In your dreams 😜
Why? Cubs will be 2nd or 3rd behind brewers again like the past several years.
All things must come to an end.
Why not this year?
yeeeaaahhh… this year isnt really working for me… lets revisit this in a couple of seasons
It just hit me. Could the Brewers be working out another trade with the Mets? While I’m on record stating I prefer Bichette as the Mets’ DH, he likely will play third. That makes Baty expendable and his glove fits what the Brewers look for. I’m thinking they already discussed Baty when Peralta was traded and just couldn’t match up. Perhaps now they do.
This seems like an interesting trade on the Brewers behalf? Kinda a head scratcher for real? At least from where im sitting. They got back one guy back end of rotation arm with potential to get better and top 15 in soxs farm that hasnt been healthy in the past 2 years and sent a draft pick and major league ready talent for it. They have to have something else planned
The Mets really wanted David Hamilton 😂
Their turn to loose? Thats wild, they haven’t even made it to a world series since 1982 and have never won one. Closest they’ve been since then was 2011 (2-4 NLCS loss to cardinals) and 2018 (3-4 NLCS loss to Dodgers) for how much yelling Manny Machado has done at the dodgers over the last 7 years it sure is funny to think he kicked Jesus Aguilars ankle as a Dodger in that series
The Brewers traded him once Tang so maybe that’s it! lol
Brewers are loaded with middle infielders who are ready to come up and Ortiz can slide back to 3rd. What we were lacking is left handed pitching. Sad to see Durbin go.
I can see the fit for Baby in MIL and also in PIT bc he can play around the diamond, is cheap, and has stepped up the 2nd half of last season to be a regular contributor.
Post-Allstar Game Stats (47 games)
.291/.353/.477.
8HR
OPS: .854
2025 Slash Line:
.254/.313/.435
18HR
OPS 748
That said, Bichette is likely a 1yr deal and then opt-out again, so they’ll need Baty. They have Vientos and Maurico, but both have sub-par gloves and haven’t show the consistency that Baty did last year. The Mets don’t *need* a DH, but piecemealing it again this year and/or relying on Vientos is a spotty plan. They a high-leverage BP arm could be of interest too, but Baty might be needed and Lindor getting spooked may make them more hesitant to move Baty unless they target a specific prospect/right deal (read: overpay).
A big time bat is still needed. If Story gets hurt again, they have zero real punch from the right side. Contreras, Rafaela and Narváez are fine supporting players as is Durbin but none will scare you in the bottom of the ninth. From the left side, a lot of pressure is on Anthony (as well as Abreu and Mayer) but on retrospect, would this team have been better served to have gotten Alonso as the full time DH and not have signed Suarez?
If the Red Sox can go 81-0 at Fenway they might not need to bat in the bottom of the ninth. I don’t know about Alonso but I agree with you about missing a big bopper from the right side.
Dewey.. no on Alonso
Sox fan: where is the needed bat coming from outside of praying that Casas can resemble the player he was the second half of 23?
Casas is likely not even on the major league roster right now. The bat is really run prevention at this point.
Worried if this guy will be the same without Milwaukee Magic, and sad to see Harrison go so soon, but seems like a clear upgrade from where we were.
Im always worried about trading for guys without an established record. Seen plenty of them that go right off the cliff after their first partial season
GaSox – At first glance, I like Durbin. .858 OPS in 2 years of AAA, finished 3rd for ROY, plays 2B and 3B, only 26, several years of team control left. A bit of a late Bloomer like Duran.
It will take a while to properly evaluate a 6-player trade, but I’m glad Harrison is gone and it’s interesting Hamilton was reacquired by the Brewers.
If anything, the comp pick has value to me, it gives a healthy boost to slot values and is a fairly desirable trade chip in its own right
GaSox – Agreed, but for now I’m focused on 2026.
The Red Sox will get pick no. 67 in the draft.
FPG
Good pickup. I believe Breslow and the team are now set ,I don’t see anymore major moves at this point. Do you believe they are done?..
cdc – No, I believe they have to make at least one more trade.
Romy
Yoshida
Rafaela
Duran
Abreu
Anthony
Story
Durbin
IKF
Mayer
Contreras
Wong
Narvaez
No Eaton or Sogard is a no-brainer.
Casas will be on the IL to start the season.
Campbell will be in the minors to start the season
So who are the bench players? Wong, Romy, Yoshida, IKF?
I just don’t see Yoshida and IKF riding the bench with their contracts.
Casas and Campbell can’t stay in the minors all season either.
I still think Story could be traded.
Can’t trade Story. He’s a top 2 returning bat. He’s a sell at the trade deadline if the Sox underperform but not until then.
Fever, after last year they shouldn’t have to pay down Story but the only way I see him dealt at this point is if a big spending club (Mets, Dodgers, Phillies) have a major injury at short. I also like Eaton as a speed bench guy with Hamilton gone. I’m also curious about Mayer who isn’t signed long term. He is so risky and one more injury and he has little trade value. He’s worth more to Boston as it is. I like this deal but i still question where the power will come from in October.
Fever, I was a fan when he was in the Yankees system but was fine when they parted ways to get Williams. It is interesting that the main players in that trade are no longer with either team. The data said Durbin wouldn’t hit well at Yankee Stadium as he doesn’t take the ball to right in the air, but he does profile well for Fenway. He gets the ball in the air to left well. He’s a good fit for the Green Monster. He should be solid if deployed properly.
dewey – I agree about not paying down. He could play 2B as well, in fact he’d be better suited for 2B as most of his defensive struggles were related to throwing. Teams that were interested in Bo would be interested in Story, like the Phillies.
Yes Eaton is fast, not the smartest baserunner though obviously. But as of right now Eaton is not on the OD roster.
Let’s hope Mayer stays healthy, he’s a great multi-position defensive player.
Breslow aligns with me, homeruns are important but there’s other ways to win. I just hope Roman doesn’t sacrifice OBP to hit for more power.
Lord – Good stuff, thank you!
Fever- Monasterio is also someone they have to figure out what to do with. I assume he is using up a spot on the 40 man roster. Now they have an over abundance of both infielders and outfielders. I assume they will wait until they have evaluated everyone in spring training before making another move. Durbin seems more durable than Mayer. I worry that Mayer could be injured in the spring and not even factor in (I certainly hope not).
I don’t think Roman will because that’s not really his game. He’s a pure hitter in the same way Manny was a pure hitter. Obviously not calling him Manny, but the home runs just come naturally because of his strength.
I think if he tries to hit for power rather than just play his game, he will derail his whole career and probably throw off his swing in the process.
Until pitchers force him to make adjustments, I hope he sticks to what’s been working for him.
Can’t wait for the talented Harrison to reach his potential with some of that Milwaukee magic.
FPG: “Casas and Campbell can’t stay in the minors all season either.”
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Yes they can. They both have options remaining.
Won’t be surprised to see Harrison as a #2. Their magic is usually really disappointing though. Like the wizard of Oz. But gets the job done.
Who care this is weak
FPG
Trade Story…… I must admit I didn’t think of that possibility. Our leader in homeruns and and RBI, as well as a right-handed bat. I don’t see it ,but I have been surprised before.. Brand new infielders all over the place. Who and at what position are you looking at for a return?? He is coming off his finest season in several years,but at $25 million per and his injury history,age, Im not sure you can get value.. I don’t see it.
cdc – Losing a RHB wouldn’t be an issue, they’ve already got 10 other RHB besides Story (I’m including IKF).
I’m thinking possibly a catcher or reliever in return, the big thing would be the $55M coming off the books and the defense improving.
If Abreu can stay healthy and play everyday like Cora is claiming, he could lead the team in HR and RBI. Or Contreras could. Who knows, maybe even Roman or a healthy Casas.
FPG’s Fun Fact of the Day: This year will be the very last $2M payment to Manny Ramirez, he will finally be off the books. How will he survive without any income? Maybe the Red Sox will hire him as the top hitting coach.
FPG
I am surprised at your response to this question. Just don’t see the Sox moving Story at this time. A back up catcher or a reliever???
To get under the cap ????? Don’t see that …
Trade the starting SS? His value is negative or neutral, otherwise he wouldve opted out this offseason and cashed in on a barren SS field.
This makes no sense.
Suit – good to see you posting, my memory is faulty but I feel like I havent seen you on as much of late.
I cant speak for FPG, but, wonder what your take is *if* this is what he mightve meant:
Casas absolutely could benefit from a substantial, perhaps even full season, in the minors just because he’s been out so long between the injuries and didnt look his best during the short start to the season in between that he did play.
Campbell, on the other hand, he really needs mlb playing time since its the adjustment process to higher level pitching than he sees in the minors is what he needs. (Unless youre trying to learn somewhere new defensively?)
Anyways, my question/thought is this. Is there a point you become so used to seeing aaa or aaaa level arms too much, for too long, that it makes it harder to adjust to the big jump in pitching quality at mlb? Id always wondered if (admittedly among other factors) thats how certain guys like dalbec really got ruined.
GaSox – We align on most things, so by the powers vested in me by MLB, Baseball Digest, GameStop and Motor Trend, I hereby grant you full authority to speak for me whenever you see fit.
Looks like you’re referencing my comment about Casas and Campbell. Once Casas is healthy after a rehab stint, it would be silly to keep him down when there’s a great need for power. He’s 26 and he has an .838 OPS between 2023-2024. If he shows he’s ready, they will call him up.
Speaking of power, did you know ZiPS has projected the Red Sox to have ZERO 20-homerun guys this season? Ouch!
As for Campbell, I think the contract will be a factor in making space for him on the big league roster. They won’t stunt his development even if there’s a crowded big league roster, he really needs to play in the majors.
Fever, I forget sometimes the accounts that im guessing you’ve muted, so, it must seem strange to see half a conversation lol…
But yeah, it was Suit talking about how you absolutely could keep both guys down all season as they have options remaining. Which technically is correct, its a debate as to whether its advisable for developmental reasons is what i question.
Im surprised zips has such a bearish outlook on Roman though. Playing a reduced schedule due to the minors or combination of minors and injury last year, he had 2 straight years of 18hrs in around 120ish games played. I can only figure they project him for a low number of PAs for some reason, perhaps thinking yoshida will take away opportunities – but thats the exact opposite. Yoshida should lose PAs and sit the bench for the benefit of Abreu/Duran/Anthony.
Fever- Does the prediction mean they think every hitter with the potential to hit 20+ homeruns is going to have a bad year? I know we did not get the big bat, but we still have maybe 5 guys who have reasonable potential to hit 20 homeruns. Well I will stay optimistic and not worry about the predictions.
My feeling with Casas and Campbell is if they can’t figure out their offense in a reasonable amount of time, it is going to be tough to give them many at bats if the main goal is getting to the playoffs. There are so many players competing for spots that they need to make sure the hot bats are getting as much playing time as they can.
It would be great if both Casas and Campbell look good, because filling out the bench with players who can actually hit will have a real impact. I hope Wong gets in a good rhythm early on and gets some confidence back. Even without the big power bat, I feel good about this group. Maybe need one more bullpen piece unless they are going to use some of the extra starters in the pen.
Hi GA. Hope you are doing well. That’s a good question and I am not sure of the answer. I suspect it is more likely that players max out at whatever level they max out at because I think players are stuck with the reaction time they have. If they can’t react fast enough to MLB pitching, I think it’s hard to overcome that.
GaSox – Yes you are correct on the strangeness. For the longest time, if someone was muted then I couldn’t even see the responses that followed. But that changed last year, now I can see just the responses.
Well yeah of course both can still be optioned, that’s common knowledge. But I specifically stated “can’t stay in the minors all season” …. I didn’t say “can’t be sent to the minors”. When the subject of who plays first base came up early in the offseason, Breslow specifically stated Casas has options left and therefore could be spending quite a bit of time there. He has 3 options, KC has 2 because he obviously used one up last year.
You are 100% correct, for developmental reasons it’s not good to keep a talented player down when he no longer has anything to benefit from being in the minors.
ZiPS has Story, Roman and Abreu all with 18 homeruns. I would take the over on all three if they remain relatively healthy. I think Abreu could lead the team with at least 30 if he plays more often and stays healthy.
Roman is not going to sit at all. He will play a lot, at least 155 starts is my expectation and he won’t be pinch hit for. I think a big reason for the low homerun expectation is his 13% walk percentage which is elite. He simply doesn’t swing at pitches outside the zone, which is fine …. especially if he remains in the 2-hole which i think he should.
Uncle – Less power doesn’t necessarily mean bad year. Boggs went from 24 homers in 1987 all the way down to 5 in 1988 …. but in 1988 he had an incredible .476 OBP and had the exact same 8.3 WAR he had the prior year.
BTW – The Red Sox are the ONLY MLB TEAM to project as not having any 20-HR hitters.
Here’s the full breakdown, Duran getting 17 is also a stretch:
Abreu, Story, Anthony – 18
Contreras, Duran, Rafaela – 17
Casas – 14
Campbell – 11
Durbin, Narvaez, Eaton – 10
Mayer, Yoshida – 9
Obviously ZiPS doesn’t expect Casas or KC to spend all year in the minors.
The Sox are expected to contend every year between now and 2029, KC can’t be held down for 4 years. He will be given another chance to stick in the majors for sure, his contract is way too big to eat.
FPG
Did you see the Casas quotes about himself??
I’m a great player and will make an impact on any team I’m on Wow, he certainly is not lacking confidence in himself. I guess that’s a good thing. He just has a way about him that comes off as very strange. I don’t dislike him , but his attitude is off putting in several ways. I do think if healthy he can contribute. It might be in Worcester though.
Red sox players they are sending arnt established either so their is risk for both teams
Im sure its always been this way but it seems in last 7 years or so it has been way worse. Guys seem to have a pretty decent first year and look to be building blocks then they vanish. Guys like Kyle Lewis that win rookie of the year and are out of the league within a couple seasons.
gorav14:
Dont Harrison and Drohan pose the same risk?
Kyle Lewis was injured. That happens.
gorav – Lewis won ROY in 2020 which wasn’t a regular season, he played in only 58 games. He also was rushed through the minors, not playing at all in AAA before being called up to the majors.
I think that’s a big factor in so many guys fading out, they are rushed through the minors. Opponents don’t even get a chance to get a book on the player because he’s promoted out of the league so quickly.
Then when MLB teams adjust to the player, the player is incapable of adjusting. Sox fans saw that last year with Campbell.
Kyle Lewis blew his knee out trying to jump over a catcher to score. He was never the same player after that injury.
He wasn’t rushed, he was already well above his peers in milb even if the stats didn’t show it. He was just that good of a player day-to-day. The vast majority of top prospects barely if at all play AAA anymore, because that’s where teams stash the replacement level journeymen and injured players on rehab assignments. He was great in his cup of coffee in 2019 and in 2020, and during the 20 minutes he was healthy he was solid in 2021. Watched him quite a bit, and his injury bust really bummed me out.
Wow, really nice player here! The Red Sox are going for it!
Kyle Harrison = Quinn Priester Pat 2.
Motor – Could be, Milwaukee is a lot better at getting the most out of pitchers than the Red Sox are.
Fever- You would think with Breslow and Bailey the Sox would be equally as good at getting the most out of pitchers. I figured if they used a pitcher in a trade it would be Harrison, but it would suck if he turns out to be something special. Don’t know enough about Drohan to judge his future value. Fine with Hamilton going as he struggled to hit in Fenway, maybe they can get the most out of him in Milwaukee.
Uncle – I agree, one would think … but the track record is not great.
Besides being unable to fix Priester, what about Newcomb and Buehler and Pivetta and Brad Keller. Check out their numbers with the Red Sox and then after they left.
I think Hamilton is Billy, I don’t expect him to ever become a decent hitter.
Fever- I agree that it seems like they have fixed fewer than were fixed after they moved on. It seems like some of the bullpen have been more gems than busts, but that may have just been that they were undervalued by the previous team.
If I called the Pirates and Sox owner and they took my call and I told them how Milwaukee improved Priester they would fire a lot of people.
Priester still isn’t anything special. Fake era. Boston did well in trade. Cherington should have been fired for Yorke. That’s nothing though. Not firing Shelton and trading Sale for a average 2b prospect are two of the dumbest decisions in the history of sports.
For now…but we finally have solid clay to mold in the Sox Lab…I say that starts after Breslow & Baily’s 4th full season to cycle through trades and drafts both MLB & Rule 5. I think you’ll see finished arms & roles in much higher numbers than our typical next to or none.
The Priester deal was stupid the day it was made. This makes a little more sense. I doubt Harrison was really in their plans, anyways.
Neither was Priester in our plans.
you keep beating that Priester was a dumb trade thing. let’s see how he does going forward.
How many pitchers have they traded away that did far worse than Priester? What’s the comp?
Funny thing is no one talks about the Sox return for Priester. How can the trade be evaluated until we see what the kid looks like in a few years? We should also have a better view on Priester then.
I talked about it. Graded it the day it was made. Who cares about years from now. Anyone can do that. Boston did well. I would have made that trade. There was a lot of good hs arms in round 2 area. Unfortunately Boston passed on them and took a college arm but that doesn’t change the trade return. I liked the college arm. But thought they passed on better players. But they could do fine. It’s just different philosophy.
Priester is basically a ground ball backend starter. Got lucky with his era. Great defense behind him as well helps era. It was no loss at all for Boston. When you can easily trade for Oviedo Crochet Gray and sign Sanchez who cares about Priester. Harrison is better than Priester. Other arm could be as well. That draft pick they got from Priester although not my favorite I like. Electric arm. If anything looks to be a late inning reliever closing out wins. That’s more valuable than Priester. And if he can start it’s a epic return.
I’ll be keeping an eye on him for my fantasy teams, that’s for sure!
Red sox gave up nothing to get quinn priester and traded him for value. Theirs no telling he would have worked out with red sox like he did the brewers and redsox had no spot for him at the time and was taking up a roster spot.
What in the Red Sox rotation was so good it blocked Priester? I am aware we had human beings pitching for us in games, but was there really such a depth of amazing talent that Priester couldn’t get some outings that year?
Just saying. I know they have their own internal depth chart, but really. Perhaps we chalk this up to Milwaukee pitching mojo.
william 2:
No one was disappointed in losing Priester in Boston when it happened. We had a decent staff at the time, before several injuries happened. Go read the comments on the MLBTR article about the trade.
Definitely some revisionism going on here based on his success.
2 years ago.
Perhaps others did, but if you read my posts, I wasn’t a big fan of our staff to begin with. I frankly thought it sucked. I thought Pivetta was realistically a 3, Bello a 4, Houck should have stayed in the pen imho but I would call him a 4, Crawford is a 4/5, Criswell a 5, Paxton at that point was a 5, Winckowski 5/pen, Fitts 5, Whitlock pen, and Priester pitched one game and won it. 5 innings 1 run. I watched it and he looked pretty nice actually.
I am not misremembering or making any revisions on anything. I just have close to no appreciation for that staff, and I assume you must have had some. It’s not like I thought Priester was the ace in waiting when we let him go, I just thought he was better than a few we had. I had no idea he would A) be given a rotation slot and leaned on that much (B) do so well. I saw him as being a guy with good control, pretty good stuff, and maybe some upside over what we had from that crap years staff.
Also, my post was more about getting more looks from Preister that season. That is why I was questioning what was so good it blocked him. Not much at all. We threw out on the mound slop for a bunch of outings. I wanted to see a couple more outings from Fitts and Preister to be honest instead of Paxton, Winckowski, Kelly, and Bernardino.
“2 years ago”
Red Sox traded Priester last year (4/7/25)
Red Sox depth chart looked something like this:
Crochet
Houck
Bello
Fitts
Newcomb
Buehler
Dobbins
Priester
Sandoval (after all star break, hopefully)
Depth looked fine at the time.
The season we had Priester we did not have Crochet yet. 2 seasons ago. 2024. We got Crochet Dec during off-season going into 2025.
Pivetta, Bello, Houck, Crawford, Criswell, and Whitlock were the possible starters.
Priester was with the Brewers last season. April 7, 2025 was the trade date.
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Priester was traded on April 7th, 2025, he already started a game in Worcester.
The reason he was traded had nothing to do with what the staff looked like the year before, it was because of the depth they had at the time of the trade.
So blame these guys for the fanbase not being disappointed when he got traded:
Crochet
Houck
Bello
Crawford
Fitts
Newcomb
Buehler
Dobbins
Priester
Criswell
Sandoval (after all star break, hopefully)
Plus several prospects who later pitched for the team
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He was just another depth piece at the time. We gave up very little to get him, and 3 very good prospects when we traded him.
I’d call it a win/win since the Red Sox had no chance to win a WS in 2025, so they walked away with a nice haul for is essentially a nothing prospect (Nick Yorke).
Are you trying as hard as you can to NOT read what I write and then rebutting it. My post was about him not getting more starts in 2024 he could/should have with that garbage rotation and the slop we threw out there in the starts we didn’t have those guys. I simply asked what was so great he didn’t get a couple more outings?
He didn’t pitch for us in 2025 because as the season started, about 10 days in, we traded him. The staff last year is different from the staff I was clearly talking about in 2024. I even dropped hints which staff I was talking about like including the exact year, and names of EVERYONE that started games on that 2024 staff.
I never commented about my feelings on the trade either. I just said in 2024 he was worth a good look at. In 2025 you can make the argument that getting 30 starts from Dobbins, Fitts, DeLeon, Bernandino, Newcolm, Houck, and May perhaps was reason enough in hindsight to keep him. I don’t play that game. He was traded and we got 30 starts from those guys. Period. I liked the kids stuff and control.
We will see how he progresses, and how our return progresses.
You never made that clear. There’s no mention of a year, which wouldve cleared it right up:
“What in the Red Sox rotation was so good it blocked Priester? ”
“Perhaps we chalk this up to Milwaukee pitching mojo.”
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My comment was to that message, It sounds like your saying Milwaukee got the most out of Priester because of their mojo, and that the Red Sox didnt need him at the time.
Dont blame me because MLBTR system sux and sticks all the comments in one miscellaneous pile. No need to get insulting, Its a misunderstanding. Chill.
My bad, truly. I assumed you were reading our thread back and forth. The first post was about WHEN he pitched for us which was 2024. The next few replies I went through it in detail saying the year, the pitchers they slotted ahead of him for starts, etc. My point was simply that I felt there wasn’t enough talent in the rotation, pen, and minors at the time to warrant just a start. After all you are evaluating him, not so much the known quantities that pitched in his stead that were middling at best. The season was over before it began with that staff, so why not?
Again, I am sorry if you missed all the replies and I got testy, you are right. I was just typing it over and over and reading posts that seemed to not be connected to what I was writing so it made it seem you were responding like you were ignoring what I clearly wrote a few times.
Also, since I never answered whether I liked the trade or not, I liked the value of it, but I thought we cut bait on what looked like a good control and stuff guy without knowing what he was capable of, and that takes a few looks. I mentioned depth charts and all, but they must have either saw him as expendable with the 2025 arms they brought in or weren’t willing to put in the investment in work with him enough to see a marked improvement.
All good, MLBTR system messaging system sux. Other message boards tell who a person is replying to and keeps it in a conversation in its own sub-column.
MLBTR conversations tend to clump them all together. The system was probably written 20 years ago. They have far too commentors for this, time for an update I’d say.
Harrison much much better than Priester. Priester had fake era. But Milwaukee getting better results than previous teams they should have in common.
Swervin’ Durbin!
Paredes to the Pirates!
Hey, a real trade. I didn’t understand all the love for Durbin. I get that he’s young, but his numbers weren’t THAT good. Apparently Milwaukee agrees. The Brewers have been great turning around pitchers so the key to the deal to me is if they can do the same for Kyle Harrison.
2.8 bWAR in 136 games in his debut season is pretty dang solid IMO. 2B was a black hole for the Sox last year so if he ends up as the everyday guy there, that’s a big upgrade for them
WAR obviously includes defense and I was.mainly focused on his offensive profile. Again, wasn’t saying g he’s not good, which is why I capitalized “that” to emphasize his production vs the hype. And don’t forget that 3B usually features boppers and Durbin isn’t that. He’s decent.
Harrison doesn’t need turned around. Already good. Milwaukee will get the stats looking good though.
Very good contact hitter, kinda in the Brendan Donovan mold.
He’s no Brendan Donovan. That’s the bottom line.
Only reason MKE is dealing him is cause of how jammed we are in the minors with guys ready to come up. What we lacked is left handed pitching depth. Ortiz can move back from short to 3rd. We legitimately have 2-3 guys that are ready to slide up to the big leagues
Holy cow! Now that’s an interesting deal. Durbin was very good, definitely had seller’s remorse trading him for Devin (though I praised it at the time).
Brewers get back Harrison who was pretty blocked and Hamilton who I think could be something with the right coaching.
I need a game against NY this season where Durbin scores the winning run, driven in by Carlos Narvaez, getting Greg Weissert the relief Win.
Dammit, Meow, now I’m triggered! lol!
MeowMeow don’t stop there. Elmer Rodriguez needs to give up the hit.
More likely Rodriguez strikes all three out. : -)
@Meow – You forget Whitlock with the hold and Chapman with the save. Throw in Seigler there somewhere.
I’m okay with it as long as we get a playoff win from Elmer Cruz. 🤣
Ferpad – You’re good!
Now the Sox should sign Verdugo, that would teach the Yanks!
I forgot that Whitlock was a Rule 5(!?!?) guy from NY as well. Chapman I’d leave out; he went other places in the interrim and we’ve already got plenty direct-from-NYY options 😂
Former Yankees, currently on the Red Sox:
Whitlock
Weissert
Narvaez
Chapman
Durbin
Seigler
Am I missiing anyone?
not for this year but Refsnyder went from pumpkin to pretty good under their flag.
IKF
@Breslow – Sonny Gray, IKF & Mickey Gasper are also ex-Yankees on the current Red Sox roster.
Whitlock
Gray
Weissert
Narvaez
Chapman
IKF
Durbin
Seigler
Gasper
Whoa, they can almost field a team of former Yankees.
Durbin good enough to play infield for Brewers and Red Sox but not good enough to be considered a viable option in the Bronx. He can field and he can walk, I guess that’s one more set of tools than Arraeaz has.
Durbin was fine to give up for Williams. I mean the guy was one of the top closers in baseball going into last season. Hard to question it too much last season. But had we not…
No Williams blown saves could have resulted in a better record than Tor.
Then again Weaver getting injured in June could have given some back with no viable alternative yet.
Maybe no McMahon trade, too.
Eh too many what ifs!
Yankees and or bad luck blew most those saves. Williams was amazing.
Good trade. Yankees are a post season team trying to win world series. Post season is pitching and hrs. Durbin regular season player. Why he was traded with 2 other utility players for pitching.
Williams was absolutely not amazing.
You just either have a different definition of amazing or looking at his era or remembering some blow saves or bad outing. He was pretty amazing. Why Mets grabbed him quickly and paid him well.
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Goldy Rice
Chisholm
Volpe
Mystery 3b
McMahon I mean…oh boy lol
Boston picking up a couple of former Yankees prospects in this one that they can haunt them with later lol.
Later on? I’d definitely say right now.
Durbin would’ve been the Yankees’ everyday 3B had they not traded him to get Devin Williams. Otherwise the Bombers wouldn’t have traded for McDonough.
Cashman knows his own prospects pretty well. Was it Park destroying AAA pitching at a epic level and Cashman was playing Odor and media asked him about Park and he said as confidently as I ever heard anyone say something that he’s not a mlb player. Not that blunt but not far off. 2025 was good for Durbin. But see how 2026 goes. Looking good so far. McMahon makes it worse. A 3b with traditional 3b profile makes you not miss a Durbin. Sign Bichette Bregman you move on fast.
Pretty heavy package going to MIL. Sorry we’ll never get to see if Harrison had anything.
So, let’s get 4-5 more infielders and then I think we’ll be set.
And it appears we have both 3rd place finishers for ROY last year. Nice.
Kind of feels like a pretty light return for MIL with the full details now. Why’d they need to add a comp b pick and Monasterio?
Yeah, it’s weird the Red Sox get the headliner name AND a draft pick haha
Left handed pitchers with strong upsides are hard to get in a trade. Seems to be a fair trade for now and we’ll reassess later.
Milwaukee got what looks like a #4 and #3 starter maybe get his full potential #2. All for a bunch of light hitting utility players. Oh and a draft pick
I mean, they got David Hamilton. Runs really fast.
I did notice the Comp pick. Nice little grab by Bres there. And Monasterio can jump on the merry go round that is the BOS infield this year.
Harrison has something and you will see it in Milwaukee.
Swanhenge – yeah, just a few more INFs……
looks like we’re heading for a Mayer and Durbin platoon, doesn it?
That’s not a terrible platoon, but if they both hit, I can see Durbin at 3B and Meyer at 2B. When Story goes to the IL, Mayer slides to SS. When Story returns from IL, he goes to 2B to save his leg/arm/shoulder. Just like TOR did w Bichette this year.
IKF is officially in a back-up mode now. Albeit an expensive back up, but he should be fine as a depth piece.
With Coras’ penchant for myriad lineups I’m seeing a three man 2nd/3rd rotation among Durbin, Mayer, and Gonaelz.
Upped for proper use of myriad.
And Cora is going to be like a mad scientist with all these possible line up combinations. I say that with a slight shudder…
Drives me crazy that’s the issue honestly he needs to pick a lineup And stick with it
I don’t know why they’d have to platoon. Mayer will take a few days off against lefties, but it’s pretty rare that you platoon a highly-ranked prospect this early.
Holy Cow!!!!
Seems decently fair although I’d probably rather have Bostons pickups.
If you prefer utility players over mid rotation starters I guess
Where’s the mid rotation starter?
So does this mean a parades trade for the brewers? Im hoping so. Otherwise who is at 3rd?
Move Ortiz to 3rd- Jett Williams may be starting SS
Brewers promoting Jett Williams with Ortiz sliding over to 3B, they have a deep group on the farm, cant see them trading for Parades.
I can see Boston adding Parades and starting Durbin at second base. Duran and Mayer out of town in that trade.
Would be a coup for the Astros.
The Red Sox agent trading either Duran or Mayer individually for Paredes. Worst trade offer I’ve seen in a long time.
Id say keep Duran and Mayer then.
Parades looks great in the Astros lineup. Age 27 season, two time all-star, .850 OPS upside.
The Astros can find a way to get Parades in the game everyday. There are likely one or two other trades available. Its a good problem in Houston.
I think there is a case to land both Duran and Mayer from Boston, might take a prospect, Parades and Janek, or Parades and Xavier Neyens, but it isnt that far off from being an interesting trade for both teams.
No, there is not an avenue to receive either of those guys for Paredes (please spell his name correctly once!). Paredes has never reached an 850 OPS (very dumb way to evaluate a player in the 21st century).
Paredes is more expensive that Duran (9.35mil vs 7.7mil) has less team control (2 years vs 3 years) and is a much worse all around player (5.9 fWAR vs 10.7 fWAR over the past two seasons). Aside from that, Paredes has very little raw power (10th percentile) despite the decent surface stats.
The Red Sox just made a move for 2-3 infielders so Paredes is no longer needed. Making their team worse to acquire him would be get dumb. Trading two players who are individually more valuable than him to acquire him is a special kind of dumb.
@WC, You want to make me out to be a fool over a spelling mistake on a guy’s name, so be it. You dont like my trade proposal, thats understandable, I dont always have the best idea.
I think you are funny like a lamp shade.
I know what kind of ball player Paredes is, I listened to a 100+ Rays games in ’22 and ’23 and that guy was the best player in the lineup. You could say Wander, Yandy, or Arozarena and you’d have a case but Paredes was clutch, a key cog for a team that won 99 games.
The fact is, the Red Sox love the idea of Durbin at 2B and if they can’t make another trade, they are hedged to some extent. Mayer at 3B is still an option. Durbin at 3B also gives them possibilities but Durbin as the answer at third leaves them guessing a little and feels short. Parades and Durbin would be locked in.
Could Mayer match Paredes this season if both got 500 PAs? Id say its possible. Does the lineup look more solidified with Durbin at 2nd and Paredes at 3B? No question about it.
Id trade Duran and Mayer for Paredes and one of Janek/Neyens but that’s my perspective on Parades being an all-star and my affinity for the Astros’ prospects.
As a fan of Paredes and the Astros, I hope they keep him around and hope he gets a full slate of PAs – Boston is a perpetual clusterflub.
@No ABS
If you don’t how to spell the player’s name, how do you expect others to respect your opinion of said player? I wasn’t trying to be mean.
It’s not a fact that the Red Sox love the idea of Durbin at 2nd. Breslow has said that they aren’t committing on where he will play and referenced his time at 3rd first upon responding. This is TBD.
It seems like you really like Paredes, but would also like him to be traded? The truth of the matter is that there was never a world where the Astros could acquire either one of Mayer or Duran without offering significantly more than just Paredes. He’s a nice player, but nowhere close to Duran while Mayer’s prospect pedigree, upside and years of control far outweigh Paredes for two seasons.
Despite wanting better players with more upside, it’s important to evaluate financial cost and years of control. 22.7mil for two years of Paredes is certainly a discount from the free agent market, but doesn’t offer tremendous surplus value. It’s unlikely to be enough to get a top-50 prospect, nevermind the players you want, even individually.
I expect Paredes will get regular playing time as the outfield looks quite rough. Good chance Altuve gets more time out there than currently projected.
Btw: The Red Sox made the playoffs last year while the Astros did not.
@WC, you are a lamp shade mate,
and your passive aggressive correction of my simple spelling mistakes is a reflection of your need to steer and jockey a MF’er – it’s a manipulative underhanded subversive way of making a person doubt themselves and feel insecure but the truth is you are the one with the insecurities and the lack.
And, in the post above, it’s clear as day you are bootlicking fob too. Good day.
No ABS in ’27
Parades looks great in the Astros lineup.
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I liked Paredes for the RS, but that ship has sailed.
But IRT the Astros lineup, right now, Paredes is on the bench, unless you can tell me who he is starting over.
Ask Joe Espada, thats his job.
I know Id rather have Paredes on the team than Pena. I’d be looking to move Pena but if Boston wanted to move Duran and Mayer for Paredes I think it would be a good fit for the Astros and think they would potentially make that trade.
Cam Smith could take third, Mayer at SS, that would be set for a few years. I’d extend Duran too, good ball player.
Pena is a great SS. Cam Smith and Mayer would be an awful defensive infield.
Pena’s extension talks didn’t go well if you remember. He is likely out in Houston.
Duran Mayer for Peredes lol Duran for Peredes alone is not enough. SMH
Maybe trade Kristian Campbell plus a starting pitcher gets Paredes? Something is seems to be in the works as why else is Breslow stockpiling infielders galore. Brendan Rodgers, IKF, Tsung Che-Cheng, Andrew Monasterio, and the only one who will be in starting lineup, Durbin. It’s like Breslow is adding specific depth pieces to replace what’s about to be traded. Or his scouting bot hallucinated a new defensive alignment with 3 or 4 second basemen
“get Parades”
Not counting Campbell, the Red Sox currently have 4 players who play 3B. (Mayer, Eaton, Sogard, Romy). Why would they add another 3B?
@BPF, depends entirely how they will use Durbin.
If Durbin will be 3B, then Paredes maybe not the best fit.
But from another angle, if Breslow has a Yoshida salary dump up his sleeve (which I think he may), and plans on trading away Casas at some point, Paredes could have value as a DH who can also play the infield corners and rotate seamlessly between DH and 3B/1B, giving Cora flexibility to use the DH occasionally to rest fielders legs. Paredes would be a more versatile DH than a Casas or Yoshida
Paredes could have value as a DH who can also play the infield corners and rotate seamlessly between DH and 3B/1B,
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He would, but Romy can do a lot of that. Paredes would do it better, but it wouldn’t be worth the cost of Duran to trade up.
Or simply knowing Mayer and Story past injury history it’s better some decent secondary options. Explains Contreras deal because you can’t rely on Casas turning into Cal Ripken (talking numbers of games played not position ofcourse).
This deal is not super sexy but damn smart – gets 1.2 million in draft pool, a young contrable 2B/3B and some pieces for a guy who wasn’t even slated to be in the starting rotation , a 27 year old prospect and a bench player AND STAY UNDER THE LUXURY TAX threshold
He likes starting pitchers and infielders. And also outfielders and DHs.
I’ve heard he likes relief pitchers as well. And don’t forget the bat boys and the grounds crew.
Brendan Rodgers and Tsung Che-Cheng, will be in the minors. The infield will be Contreras, Story, Mayer, and Durbin with IKF as a super-sub, and Romy the RH platoon at various spots.
Add Nate Eaton (1 option remaining) to the mix , either in the Major or Minors, as well.
I don’t know is on 3rd. Who’s on 1st.
Does Boston have anyone left from the Devers trade?
Jose Bello. So no.
Fanatic – Just goes to show how much the Sox tried to hype the return for Raffy. It didn’t work, Red Sox Nation knew it was nothing more than a salary dump and the fact all three key players are already gone proves it.
FPG – i am concerned about this becoming a Mayer/Durbin platoon.
I know Mayer has injury concerns, but i really wanted him to see what he has if given the chance to play 155 at third base,
It was never about the return, it was about getting a malcontent off the team and freeing up money. it worked out great. Used the money for contract extensions and signing Suarez. And they used surplus pitching to get a young, cost-controlled starting inf. An amazing trade.
Sad – Here’s something to consider …… Story’s trade value right now is the highest it’s been since before he left Colorado. We all know his defense really suffered at the end of last season. He does not have a NTC.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Story gets traded, thus reducing payroll and freeing up positions for Mayer, Durbin and IKF.
ellis – Freeing up money = salary dump ;O)
They never wanted to give Raffy that contract, and they were adamant about dumping it. They succeeded.
BTW – They used the money from Buehler, Giolito, Hendriks, Hicks, and Bregman for contract extensions and signing Suarez.
But like I said, I like Durbin and am glad they made this trade.
FPG – Wow, hadnt thought o that scenario.
Can we afford to lose the 20+ HRs though?
Giving Marcello an occasional day off against tough lefties isn’t a bad thought. I expect to see Romy at 2b with Durbin at 3b on those days. Mayer plays against all RH starters who comprise about 70% of SPs.
Sad – I agree, but based on what I’ve read here it seems like Breslow’s priority has switched from power to defense. Trading Story would definitely improve the defense. I like him, but I acknowledge his staying healthy last year might be a one-year fluke.
The other question if he’s traded, where will the leadership come from? Bregman and Story were the veteran position players on the team. I suppose Contreras.
FPG – if every combination is on the table, I’d rather see Durbin at third, Mayer at Short and Story at second
Trading the players acquired for Devers to get other players isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Stop acting like they simply released the players involved.
King – In these cases, both scenarios are right. The Sox traded Devers and have no return. They did, however, save money which lead to Anthony extension and Suarez signing. And if you want to add Durbin and Ziehl to that total, it shakes out to Devers for Durbin and Ziehl.
The money part is fungible. You could always sign a free agent, you can always extend a player. But, you cant always replace major league on-field talent, and in that sense, the players are who the players are.
@ellisburks: Thanks for the laugh!
Ken – The Red Sox never would have traded those three guys if they were as good as they claimed to be when they were acquired. Especially with them eating most of Hicks’ contract.
Either they knew all along they weren’t that good and lied about it, or they tried and failed to “fix” them.
Take your pick. Either way, bad thing.
FPG: “The Red Sox never would have traded those three guys if they were as good as they claimed…”
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More clown garbage. You need to trade value to get value. The other teams obviously valued them.
No it really isn’t. The biggest name the Sox sent to Milwaukee for Durbin was Harrison so in that sense Durbin is in Boston as a chain of the Devers trade. Only looking at whether or not the Sox hold onto every player they received for Devers until they retire as the return on that trade isn’t accurate.
Ken – It’s a 6-player trade, you can’t say it never would have happened without Harrison. There’s a plethora of other pitchers the Sox could have included in the trade. And many believe Drohan was the most valuable player included by Boston.
At least the Sox didn’t have to send money too this time. Paying a third of Hicks’ contract to pitch for another team is further proof the Raffy trade was just a salary dump, no team would give up on a player just a few months after trading for them unless the player was never really wanted.
Trevor story is not being traded end of story
guru – I’m confused. In the same sentence you say he’s not being traded, but also we’ve seen the end of Story?
There is no way the Sox reject a trade proposal if another team is willing to take on most or all of Story’s $55M contract.
Jose Bello
BIGGG
This is a weak trade for the Sox. It’s not much of an upgrade from their internal options
Weak trade? This is a great trade! Durbin is a much better option than what we have and was worth more bWAR than Donovan in slightly less playing time. Great trade!
I guess I expected more. To be fair I wasn’t thinking about the second open infield spot. I was thinking that Meyer “should” be better than Durbin. I think Paredes would have been more exciting.
I think Durbin is far more valuable than Paredes with his salary and control, defense and contact tool. And they didn’t have to give up an outfielder to get him.
I would not be surprised if Durbin has a better year than Bregman.
Durbin better value than Paredes vote here.
Yankees Brewers both traded him away though. Milwaukee had to getting Harrison and Drohan. 1 year of a elite closer though when you have no 3b was a choice.
JM – What internal options? The only one this may impact is Campbell. Romy, Hamilton, Sogard, Eaton …. none of them were going to be an everyday infielder.
Best of all, the Sox avoid picking up Paredes’ $9M salary this season.
Is Durbin really that much better than Hamilton? Wasn’t Hamiltons 24 season very similar?
It was not and I like hamilton but he was not that close to what Durbin did.
Everyone says all of Bostons’ infielders stink, then a trade is made and people are like” The guys we already had are better”
This is one of the dumbest comment sections anywhere.
You cast very wide nets.
I gotta keep it simple for the dummies.
Hi.
Ghost- I think everyone has been waiting for the power right handed bat they had talked about so assumed this trade was going to somehow provide that (not sure if there was anyone available that could have filled it at this point). It may not have been a wow trade, but it improves depth and flexibility in the infield and I think between the players they already had and the new ones they can put together a solid infield. I am ready to watch everyone battle it out in spring training.
Something should be coming out of Boston.
I would take Boston out of the running. Durbin is definitely sstepping in as their 3rd baseman. I think it’s now a Pirates or Tigers trade for Paredes.
Brewers?
I’m not sure. I feel like it’s rare that they pull a go for it trade for one, but then like why bother trading Durbin? It’s not like they got immediately better by doing so, and does Paredes make them better than Durbin? Different types of players, but I dunno. Anything is possible. They do have some excess in the OF. I’d still put the other two teams ahead of them especially since they could move Ortiz to 3rd and start Jett Williams at SS. I feel like this move was more to facilitate that than adding another IF.
2B
Depends how the Sox want to deploy him, but obviously this fills a IF hole.
Based on what the org has said before, I expect Mayer 3B and Durbin 2B vs. RHP, then Durbin 3B and Romy 2B vs. LHP.
Am I crazy for thinking that the RHP lineup should be Durbin 3B, Mayer SS, Story 2B though?
I think the Story hate was an overreaction to a few bad weeks of Story errors which probably won’t be repeated.
But that lineup is still reasonable. Lot of flexibility.
Am I crazy for thinking that the RHP lineup should be Durbin 3B, Mayer SS, Story 2B though?
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Yes and yes. Still crazy after all these years, but I agree on the alignment. I have NP with Story at SS, but your lineup is more intuitively appealing.
Little sad to see Drohan go, but if that’s the cost to get rid of Harrison and Hamilton so be it.
So would he be the 3B?
I believe so. Durbin to 3B, Mayer/Romy platoon at 2B. IKF as back up.
I’m kinda OK with this.
And maybe Durbin can hit 2nd between Anthony and Duran.
I think durbin is better off at 2b which is a huge upgrade and defensively mayer proved he was excellent at the hot corner last year.when bregman missed all that time..that should probably be the defensive alignment assuming mayer delivers at the plate and stays healthy
I’m good with this. Durbin could be a super UT guy for a long while
Andrew – how many super utility guys do the Sox need?
Sad – we’re talking Alex Cora.
So, id say 26, but, that doesnt let him play with call-ups… id say 40, but, that doesnt account for injuries.
So let’s say cora would be comfortable right around 52.
GASox – hahahaha, thats true!
I can see Cora creating a five man infield carousel……..
… but absolutely not more than 58. Okay, 60 tops.
How many do you think they have now? Last I heard all the red Sox options for third and second base stunk. Now the Red Sox have all sorts of “super utility guys”?
Ok
If they’re giving the Red Sox Monasterio too then this means that the Brewers have no third basemen. So…Paredes to the Brewers? Don’t see them giving the Astros any of their LH OFers?
Hamilton could be a third baseman, although I am not sure if he is the answer or if he is a utility guy.
Yeah I’m wondering if this means they’re hoping to have Jett Williams start at short on opening day, move Ortiz over to 3B. That’d make a lot of sense.
He is neither a third baseman nor the answer.
I thought AI was the answer.
Got ‘eem
I thought 42 was the answer!
But what is the question? I need a towel.
I always have the answer but not the answer
Hamilton is a DFA candidate.
Technically, everyone in the league is a DFA candidate.
Hamilton has played only 1.1 innings at 3rd in parts of the MLB seasons. The Red Sox even played Nate Eaton at 3rd over him last year. He never played an inning of 3rd in the minors.
Hamilton is a great base runner, a good defensive 2nd baseman and a passable short-term SS who may be able to play CF with some more work. But he doesn’t have the arm for 3rd.
Durbin hadn’t played any 3B before last year, either, and played very well there. If Jett can play SS (and some would say he can’t), no reason he can’t play 3B.
Durbin played 67 games at 3rd base before last year.
Move Ortiz back. Likely Jett at SS
Brewers clean out their depth infielders and get back a starting pitcher project and one of their former draft picks
Shouldn’t be much of a project for them. Child’s play.
I dont mind Durbin
Other thoughts:
1) Breslow is all over the place
2) IKF signing becomes even more annoying
3) Mayer is going to lose playing time
4) Cora is already creating the infield carousel
5) Great return for Devers, Jose Bello
1) Red Sox fans wanted several pickups, so Breslow does have to be all over the place.
2) IFK will be utility infielder, with a gold glove. This shouldnt annoy you, its not your money.
3) Agree, we dont have to worry about Mayer’s injury past.
4) Agree, rest is a good thing
5) Yes it was. Devers contract was a great thing to get off the books.
gold glove is a stretch. His main utility on this roster is depth at SS and he is now just an average defender there (still good at 2B and 3B)
Me: “with a gold glove”
“TL2C24: “gold glove is a stretch”
Check his trophy case.
A 2020 gold glove. Different rules. Didn’t see much of him then. Seen a lot of him last year and he wasn’t close to gold glove then. Not bad though. Be better on right side than left.
Mayer has the losing playing time deal down pat all on his own. Cite to 4 straight… errr.. every professional baseball season he’s played.
2) IKF signing becomes even more annoying
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This trade makes the IKF even better. Now we have a starting 4 IF with no platoons, and IKF a super-sub at three positions.
5) Great return for Devers, Jose Bello
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You’re 100% on that one. Devers had a 3.3 fWAR last year, and they project him for a 3.2 this year. Durbin had a 2.6 and they project him for a 2.9 this year.
That’s a heck of a small difference to save $32M.
Kinda ironic that BOS just traded for 2 former Yankee prospects …. Maybe NYY fans were not crazy to think that NYY could have traded for Devers last year …..jk 🙂
Breslow couldn’t get away with that. Though he probably wanted to do that
Caleb Durbin: “Arthroscopic surgery on Oct 30, 2025.”
Nice and slow with the entire infield. Let it all shake out.
Just when I think that the Mets are signing all the ex-Yankees…Boston nabs Durbin and Seigler.
The Brewers have now traded two young players that had very good rookie seasons. These are the kind of long term, inexpensive, and productive players that every team covers.
Collins and Durbin.
I really wonder what Milwaukee knows.
Collins is old though. This one is very weird.
Milwaukee knows mid rotation starting pitchers are more valuable than light hitting utility players.
CATS:
Milwaukee hopes it just got 2 more Quinn Priesters.
Quinn Priester is back rotation ground ball pitcher. These are 2 strike out mid rotation. Harrison can easily be a #2
No major fixes needed. Just Boston and Pittsburgh aren’t that smart. Easy pickings for Milwaukee.
Boston has to be really wondering what MKE sees in two more pitchers that they cant see. If MKE is asking for your pitchers, probably say no.
Red Sox didnt trade any of their top pitcher (Crochet, Ranger, Sonny, Early, Tolle, Witherspoon) and also have several more waiting in the wing (Oviedo, Bennett, Sandoval, Uberstine, Crawford).
Good for MKE, and hopefully they do have two more Priesters. But, there’s nothing wrong with trading from your surplus for the right target. Sox seem to be able to make value pitching products out of weak draft picks and trades.
Boston traded the cy young winner for a average 2b prospect. They don’t stand a chance against Milwaukee.
Laughable take how good is Boston’s pitching then since he was number 9 on the depth chart.
Mil makes so few mistakes that I assume the Harrison will become a good 3 next year.
At least a 3 imo. Pretty much already is a #3 just Giants and Sox didn’t realize it. Milwaukee should have lil to no problem. Could easily be a #2.
Boston knew he had talent, which is why we traded for him. But we needed a legit 2B more than another rotation candidate. Especially without Romy.
Red Sox did well. They got the best player in Durbin AND the Comp Balance pick.
@Chandler – Brewers must see something there as they do keep churning out starters. Interesting they moved on from both Collins and Durbin after solid rookie seasons.
Because both are fools gold. Selling high
I guarantee both take steps back this year offensively
Only fails for crew if Made n kids are complete busts
Harrison is best player already a #3 starter who can easily be a #2. Drohan looking like a #4. Yeah Brewers see something. Easy to see. Child’s play for them. Enjoy your comp pick though.
Sox trading from pitching depth to get a starting positional player, bench guy and the number 67 pick. That’s a win. I like Harrison but he’s not better than Early, Tolle or Oviedo. If Harrison doesn’t develop a serviceable 3rd pitch he’ll never be a #3 let alone a #2. Brewers believe every trade piece will be Preister 2.0. He could be a one-off
AI GM
Drohan looking like a #4.
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You might want to slow your roll. The WS had a dearth of SPs, and still chose to return the Rule 5 pick back to the RS. When the WS don’t want you, you probably aren’t a #4.
Why care about what WS did. Teams do dumb things.
Watched a lot of Kyle Harrington last year and he’s no #2 and never will be. He’s at best a back end starter. He’s a big time fly ball pitcher who gives up a lot of home runs because he gives up hard contact. He was probably number 9 on the depth chart of starters for Boston. He isn’t Connelly Early or Payton Tolle he’s useful but he was a spare part for Boston. I do like Drohan but at no time has he shown the ability to stay healthy as a starter. I think he’s going to be a good reliever that you probably won’t be able to pitch back to back days. He hasn’t shown to even remotely be able to handle a starters load.
“Harrison”
chandlerbing
But somehow i feel brewers will bring the best out of kyle.
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There is almost no doubt in my mind that Harrison will do well for them. But even with the right coaching, he was unlikely have gotten a shot at starting for the RS. Sandoval will get the first injury promotion, and then Early and Tolle are next.
What? This is weird to me.
Still think Meyer is playing 3B and Durbin will be starter at 2B. IKF is a bench player, that probably will be traded at deadline, Monasterio will start in the Minors and replace IKF when he is traded.
Coop – Story could be traded, you heard it here first.
And $6M for a bench player that nobody wanted all offseason? Good grief.
FPG… technically IKF still has not signed… I wonder if he could “fail” his physical at this point?
Coop – Wow, I didn’t realize that. if it’s a bogus fail, that would be very interesting.
I would be happy if he doesn’t sign, saves $6M and frees up the infield a bit.
We should know soon, camp opens this week!
IKF is the RH insurance for Mayer. And Story —if Injured. Can play all IF positions is the replacement for Hamilton on the roster. Have no issue with the signing even after today’s trade.
Fisk -IKF has reverse splits.
Last year .668 vs RHP
.536 vs LHP
Personally I don’t care how much the Sox overpay on players, but the Red Sox do care about total payroll.
I still think at least one more cost-cutting trade is coming, time will tell.
FPG- Romy’s injury makes this signing more understandable. All off-season to rehab and now it’s acting up.
I would be leading the charge with pitchforks and torches to pnc park if Cherington brought IKF back for 3 million. 6 million although not a lot for a team that can spend 250 300 is just a waste of $.
Don’t need IKF now that you traded 2 mid rotation starters to Milwaukee for a pile of their excess utility players.
Milwaukee is the new Tampa on trades. Another very beneficial trade for the Brewers.
This trade is a real win for them. Priester was fair trade. I’d rather had the draft pick than Priester. Lot of good hs arms in that 2nd round. Contreras just given to them. They been hot. More other teams are just stupid.
Good trade for Brew Crew with their infield depth (majors and prospects to come). Even better trade for Sox. Moved three depth guys for a definite starting bat, two depth guys, AND a draft pick. Only way Sox lose this deal is if Harrison becomes a frontline starter – jury out.
Nothing wrong with a Win/Win trade, it means the two teams will do more of them.
Good chance he becomes a #2 but even mid rotation is more valuable than Milwaukees spare utility players. Drohan is trending towards mid rotation more likely a #4 but nothing wrong with that.
Durbin was never a top prospect or expected to be much more than a platoon/utility guy when he was in Yankees system. Milwaukee definitely selling high on him.
Durbin is awesome, sucks to lose him, they must love Kyle Harrison.
Current mid rotation who has potential to be a #2 what’s not to love
I like what Harrison could be, but “current mid-rotation” is a stretch.
I like Harrison as well, and Mil does well with these guys. But right now, he has a career ERA+ of 91.
I didn’t even look at his era+
I have always thought Kyle Harrison looks a little like (younger) Corbin Burnes
From the outside, seems a good deal for both teams, which are what trades are supposed to be.
Durbin had 2.8 WAR in 136 games in 2025. Hamilton had 2.6 WAR in 98 games in 2024. Hamilton took a step back in 2025. Durbin is obviously younger, but the Brewers have a tendency of getting the best out of players. Then, you throw in Harrison on top of that. Seems like a good deal for Milwaukee.
I like this deal a lot for both teams. Durbin is pretty good and adding him and subtracting Hamilton helps with getting more righty bats and less lefties. Harrison deserves a shot and wasnt going to get it in Boston. Really good trade for both teams.
I agree, on paper I think this works well for both. I am curious to see how this will affect Mayer overall.
Red Sox never needed more RH bats. They needed 1 middle-of-the-order RH bat. They are super RH-heavy now as 5 of their 9 starters and their entire bench projects to be right-handed.
The Red Sox absolutely have more than 4 lefties projected on their 26 man roster. They needed more righties and less lefties.
Duran, Roman, Abreu and Mayer are the four projected LHH starters. Yoshida is also projected to be on their 26-man roster due to his contract but doesn’t really have a role, aside from as pinch hitter, at the moment.
The other 5 starters are Contreras, Durbin, Story, Narvaez and Rafaela. The other projected backups are likely Wong, Romy and IKF. That’s 5 starting RHHs (6-7 against LHPs) and 3 backup RHHs
Why argue something you can lookup in less than 15 seconds?
You said they only had 4 lefties on their 26 man. You just proved yourself wrong with your post. How do you not understand all this?
I did not even mention the 26 man roster (we aren’t discussing pitchers).
You said something stupid and I pointed out that it was wrong. Admit that you didn’t know the makeup of the Red Sox team, but chose to comment regardless, and move on.
‘getting more righty bats’ was never a need for the roster. Just the one, as I mentioned. If anything, their depth is RHH heavy now.
You are talking complete nonsense
Not sure if you aren’t playing with a full deck or just trolling ,but no point reading if you have nothing to offer – muting you going forward.
Hope you educate yourself for the sake of others in the future and avoid the troll-like behavior, brings everyone down.
Raise your hands Red Sox fans if you really know anything about Durbin. That said, enjoy the moment. Hamilton is gone!!
My hand is raised…. I watch Baseball and every team not just the Red Sox. Durbin is a solid player…. reminds me in a little way of Laser Show “Petey”.
Comparing this guy to Pedroia is an insult to Pedey.
Lou – I thought the same thing when so many compared Bregman to Pedroia.
Its simply because he is 5 7 and plays hard and hustles
Before a few minutes ago, wouldn’t have been able to pick his picture out of a lineup nor told you what position he played. There was a time I could name at least 20 players on every team including all the regulars but I’m older now…
But a quick glance at his numbers both offensive and defensive, and looking at his spray chart I think this is a good deal for the Sox. He’s a plus defender at third, decent base running, insanely low strikeout rate. Not much of a bat but compared to what we gave to get him… well I think he makes us better and we didn’t give up anything we couldn’t live without.
Not much of a bat? He has terrific contact skills and good plate discipline. 96th percentile whiff% along with 95th percentile squared-up rate.
Very little power, but if he hits for contact and draws walks, that’s a pretty good hitter.
Perhaps what I should have said was “not much of a bat for a third base mold.”
But as for your comment that he draws walks, no he doesn’t and that concerns me. Durbin had 5.9% walk rate last year. That made him well below the 50th percentile in the league last year. When you consider we also have Story and Rafaela who have similar issues…
I didn’t say that – please read my comment.
His plate discipline numbers (O-swing and Z-swing) are quite good despite not having a high walk rate in his rookie year while his walk rate in triple-A was fantastic in 2024 (12.5%). So there’s good reason to think he can draw walks going forward.
My apologies, I read fast and thus missed the point.
Hamilton: “one of the game’s elite defensive second basemen “.???
Clearly, the writer didn’t catch many RS games..
Flowery language aside, Hamilton is a pretty good defender at 2nd. He just doesn’t have a lot of defensive flexibility for a utility player.
The writer was likely looking at his +16 DRS in only 679.1 innings, which would appear to be super elite.
Can’t trade him. He has that contract, and no defensive position. That kills his value. They would likely need to add a prospect to dump the salary of a 22 yr old. Hilarious!
No, but could trade him along with Mayer for Paredes and bullpen help
Zero chance the Red Sox would trade Mayer for 2 years of Paredes. Paredes is a very ‘ok’ player and not at all cheap. (I don’t think they could fit him in the payroll at this point).
The Paredes dream is gone.
styme – KC could be in the outfield, more trades are coming.
This article, and pretty much all the comments here, discuss this trade from Boston’s perspective. Trying to figure out how this makes sense from the Brewers side of things.
I have the same perspective, Red Sox fans are a chatty lot lol.
I love the Harrison to Josh hader comparison ! Hader reached pretty close to top 25 prospect as a projected starter with brewers before transitioning him to closer. Harrison former top 25 prospect. Both hard throwing lefties. Neither panned out as a starter. I think Harrison will follow the Hader model to elite level closing for the brewers. Excellent pick up
I could definitely see Harrison turning into a terrific reliever. His fastball is really good but he’s not a hard thrower. He’s averaged about 93 as a starter and 95 out of the bullpen.
Harrison and Hader are both blonde and LH. Comparisons stop there.
2 mid rotation starters for some utility player spare parts.
AI – you keep pushing this #2 and #4 narrative. Put down the hash pipe. Drohan is 27 years old, frequently injured and never made it to Majors , but he’s your 4??? I like Harrison’s upside but he was probably 8th on RS SP depth chart. He’s your #2. This is MIL front office Kool-aid.
AI – the guy you called a utility player (Durbin) started every game in the 2025 playoffs. downplaying the 67th pick is also nuts. I understand you’re on here to pump up the trade for the MIL FO but show some modicum of objectivity…
Age doesn’t matter. Injury history doesn’t matter. Never made majors doesn’t matter. I thought he was back rotation likely reliever but 2025 was a good year for him. Trending as a 4 currently.
If age, injury or experience doesn’t matter — I must be “trending” as a 5 currently. Guy who was a ROY candidate, who started every playoff game is a utility guy. OK bro…
You probably have very low talent but if not go for it. Verlander is still going.
Age, injury, experience, era, era+, all don’t matter — good thing we have your gut to tell us who one the trade.
Didn’t use my gut at all.
Looks like you passed on logic too…
Heard these same comments from Sox fans on Sale trade and I was right and they were all wrong.
I see a way to make Harrison a #2 and Drohan a #4. Maybe Milwaukee doesn’t see it. But what I seen to improve Priester they seen the same thing and did it. Maybe I am bullish and he’s just mid rotation. Maybe Drohan can only be back rotation. Heck not like Milwaukee doesn’t have other pitchers so he might have to be a reliever. Doesn’t change their value when the trade was made. Durbin could have a freak accident. Wouldn’t mean they shouldn’t have made the trade. When they made trade they should have. Just didn’t work out as intended.
Don’t see why Brewers would do this but welcome to Boston Caleb.
Agreed, not that it’s a bad trade just why.
2 free mid rotation starters for 3 utility excess players
You might want to shut it down for a couple hours. That’s at least the 10th time you mentioned mid-rotation arms. Both arms have been let go by two teams.
And I see no point in disparaging Durbin all the time. He was a legit starter for the best team in BB. He finished the season well, was 3rd in ROY, and had an excellent playoff.
Hamilton at 3B instead of Durbin is a downgrade. I hope the Crew is in on Paredes ASAP. They now have plenty of pitching depth to trade from.
Especially since Hamilton isn’t a 3rd baseman. 1.1 innings there in his entire professional career.
I LOL whenever a writer of article mentions Romy Gonzalez. I could now see him being DFA or traded himself to free up space on 40 man for better players.
Romy isn’t going anywhere. He earned his spot on this roster last year. Kills LHP and gives good interviews.
I doubt that. He kills lefties and is a great platoon bat with some defensive versatility. With a left leaning Sox lineup, and Refsnyder moving on I dont imagine Romy is going anywhere.
Romy was top-5 in baseball in HardHit% last year behind Roman, Schwarber, Ohtani and Judge. He’s turned himself into one of the best lefty-mashers in the game with a 162 wRC+.
I LOL whenever a commenter condescends to a writer with zero evidence to back up their claim.
Romy is hurt — hence IKF
Well this one was not on my bingo card, but I actually like the deal. Although Durbin doesn’t do damage with swing, his breakout campaign established him as one of the better contact hitters in MLB. He also runs the bases very well and can easily swipe the 30+ bags annually. And fact that he pulls the ball with some frequency should result in plenty of Green Monster doubles. Best of all, he doesn’t become a free agent until 2032. This guy could become a key core player if he continues to progress his game with experience. I also like the other depth pieces the Sox received. Now that Sox got Durbin, it also means that IKF will likely be used in a Bock Holt capacity and that makes me much happier than IKF as a starter.
I have a feeling the Brewers will turn Harrison into a Cy Young-caliber pitcher as they have done with pitchers of less raw talent than Harrison. That said, it’s a reasonable deal as Harrison had no clear role on the current Sox squad which is wicked deep in starting pitching, and Durbin was going to cost someone of MLB-caliber. Plus Drohan has upside and could turn into something special for the Brewers. Hammy is just a throw-in
Why can’t it be a good deal for both teams? It seems pretty fair actually when you just look at the players and pick changing teams
I think most agree that its a pretty fair, if not a win-win.
At first glance I really like this trade for Boston. They’re getting a starter with speed and some defensive versatility and a decent backup infielder for a guy that wasn’t likely to crack their starting rotation and another guy that, while fast, is more of a spare part. If the Brewers can work their magic with Harrison I suppose it could end up a fairly even trade.
Their magic will be here is the ball. Get on the mound and throw it.
Love Durbin he so reminds me of Dustin Pedriuo. Milwaukee capitalize on the trade because Brewers have Pratt, Wilkens, Fischer, Williams, Black,Boeve, Adams and Made who all could be up this or next year. Heck by 2027 we could see an infield of first Burke, second Pratt, short Made, third Fischer and bench Williams, Boeve and Adams.
Did we trade Brice Turang in this scenario? Why?
My only thoughts is that he wont be signing a cheap extension, but still think 2027 is too early.
As a Giants fan, wishing Kyle Harrison the best of luck. Hoping the Milwaukee Pitching Lab sprinkles their magic dust on Kyle, and he finally becomes the effective big league pitcher he projected to be. Good kid.
No doubt they will lol. If there’s a winner in the trade – it’s Harrison !
Already a good mlb pitcher. No dust needed. Will use analytics to make him even better though I think.
Career 4.39 ERA in the bigs (1.315 WHIP). 3.1 BB/9. Both stats are below league average. Calling Harrison a “good MLB pitcher” is a bit of a stretch. Average is more apt, because Kyle does limit hits and hard contact, while striking out nearly a batter per inning.
What I meant to communicate, is that Harrison has more talent than his MLB career has shown to this date. I believe in the kid’s upside. Milwaukee will get him there.
All I am looking at is him pitching and the data off his pitches. All I care about. If you could just look at era whip there would be little no need for scouts analytics.
Era whip are weak stats to use. Lots of luck in them. And career is even worse. What he has done with Boston is far more important than with SF. But the only thing that really matters is what he will do with Milwaukee. Walks is more useful stat and 3.1 is good for his age experience development.
Average sounds good to me though. You have 5 starters so by that a #3 is average right in the middle. I went good because it’s easier to find a #5 than a #3.
In the grand scheme of things Durbin is a solid pickup. A poor man’s Bill Mueller with speed. He’ll probably hit in the .250 -.260 range, have good contact skills and put up a 10 HR/15 – 20 SB season and solid defense. This allows the Red Sox to start Mayer at 2B and if Story goes down move Mayer to SS and put Gonzalez at 2B.
On paper the infield defense is a little better and more stabilized than last year.. You don’t have to worry about defense if Story or Mayer go down and wonder how long Bregman will be out.
i don’t get the trade for the Brew Crew. They must really like Harrison. I would think they would want Harrison and a decent A pitcher with promise as they seem to be loading up the farm with arms.
Drohan is an unknown at this point, but 67 Ks in only 47 innings last year likely piqued their interest.
WCSoxFan — Drohan’s ability to miss bats is stellar which should make him untouchable; however, concerns over staying available has undermined him and relegated him too distant from the rotations orbital range to make it with Boston.
You have a weird lexicon my friend.
Drohan’s best shot seemed to be as a lefty reliever, but his depth of pitches and lack of fastball likely makes him better off as a backend starter. Hope he does well.
Was a tough break with the previous injury and rule 5 draft.
Cleve- he’s 27 and never pitched in the Majors. He’s touchable.
Fisk27 — did you read my post or just skip it after you saw the word untouchable?
Read it completely — didn’t make a ton of sense but great vocab.
Fisk27 — Okay. Drohan’s swing strike rate was excellent, worth coveting. But contrasted with his inability to stay on the mound, it wasn’t worth stashing him, especially when the rotation is recognizably deep with talent.
Cleve – wow, you took me seriously. you might be off your “orbital range”.
Starting pitching more valuable than utility players. Easy trade for Milwaukee to make.
Durbin was a starter last, just so you know.
Great deal for the Sox.
Brewers should have got more.
A #2 and #4 starter for 3 utility players! How much more should they get. I think they got enough!
Harrison has 192 MLB innings with a 4.39 ERA and was 9-9 over that span. If he’s your #2 you’re in for a very rough season. Your #4 has never pitched in the bigs. My guess is they both start in the minors.
I expect to see Durbin at second, Mayer at third. Tremendous infield versatility. Durbin is a blue collar lunch bucket type. He got better as the season progressed and was one of the Brewers’ most reliable bats in the playoffs. I could easily see 15 homers and 30 SB’s, with a ceiling of 20/40 (dreaming but folks were raving about his baserunning skills last spring). Sox still lack a thumper. Fever’s idea of dealing Story only creates more of a power (and veteran leadership) hole. Who’s out there to fill it? Paredes seems like he’d be redundancy now. And though Harrison may have great upside, the Sox got their infield upgrade without moving Tolle, Early, Witherspoon, Duran, Wilyer or Campbell. I’d say that this deal looks pretty good.
@Steve Adams
Shouldn’t Durbin still have ‘6’ years of control remaining? He only has 164 days of service time and didn’t finish top-2 in RoY voting. Looks like 2 more years at the minimum before 4 in arb as a super 2.
Ah fond memories of Cashman including Durbin in the trade for Trevor Williams.
Devin Williams
Durbin sounds like if he reaches his absolute ceiling….is pedroia a fair comp?…or totally unrealistic
Too high a ceiling. I had posted, think a poor man’s version of Bill Mueller. You won’t see the same defense or batting average of a Pedroia. Probably similar power and stolen base numbers.
Mueller and Pedroia had very close career OPS numbers. I think you underrate Bill Mueller. Maybe Mo did as well. Hee hee.
whyhayzee
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Mueller and Pedroia had very close career OPS numbers. I think you underrate Bill Mueller. Maybe Mo did as well. Hee hee.
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Mueller benefited greatly from his move to Fenway in 2003, setting career highs in home runs (19), doubles (45), triples (5), OPS (.938), and ISO (.214).
In three seasons with the Red Sox, Bill Mueller hit double-digit home runs – 19, 12, 10.
Before joining the Red Sox, Mueller had only hit double-digit homers once in a full season (10, with the Cubs).
Career Iso Muller .134
I think the move to Fenway will also improve Durbin’s stats.
Maybe Jody Reed?
Remdog with more pop?
He has Pedroia’s contact skills and plays strong defense.
But Pedroia had an ability to consistently hit the ball pretty hard despite lacking much raw power. Durbin hasn’t shown that, and similarly has limited raw power. So don’t expect any laser shows.
WCSoxFan — Although we don’t know precisely know the maximum exit velocity for Pedroia, there is evidence from 2015 it might be 106.5 mph. As of now, Durbin holds 108.9, but there is reason to suspect Durbin’s average lags, likely due to bat speed of roughly 68 mph being towards the lowest.
One thing to follow on Durbin that could be of note is his swing, gearing towards pulling, plays up at home. Thus there could be a boosting of his value relatively to him in Milwaukee, and providing a shadow of the great Pedroia.
This seems like an even swap of spare parts. I’m surprised Milwaukee threw in a draft pick.
This might mean Made debuts in 2026. Hamilton or Williams covers 3B until then.
They basically traded Peralta and Durbin for Williams, Sproat and Harrison which might be ok.
Milwaukee would have probably thrown in 4 or 5 more draft picks if they could and needed to. I wonder if they are still dancing and high fiving each other or settled down finally?
Brewers in on Paredes perhaps?
Trading for an expensive (relatively) two year rental? Doesn’t sound like a Brewers kind of move.
Exactly, I think they’re just making room for their gluttony of infield prospects, Made in particular is gonna be special.
Hopefully not with Paredes for Milwaukee. I hope Houston keeps him. Boston got their player and more.
If Houston trades him for lousy stuff just to keep Lousy Sanchez I am sorry already disliking Brown and his deals so far and more. May soon start watching another team.
With Durbin sounds like that is the end of experimenting with Kristian Campbell as a 2B.
Devers trade has now extended a bit with Durbin, but sure seems Harrison didnt fit into Redsox plans.
Definitely not in the short term. I expect we see Mayer at 2B this year. If Story goes down, Mayer moves to SS and then you see Gonzalez and Romi at 2B. Campbell is probably stuck in AAA until he proves he can play 2B or an OF gets moved. I am hoping he isn’t going to end up being the Phillies version of Scott Kingery.
Did Scott Kingery get 80 milllion as a rookie?
I sure hope Campbell is not Jon Singleton 2.0
Great starting pitching definitely not in their plans. Ship Harrison out like Sale.
Many of the best players in MLB have taken a couple of years before sticking. It took Duran 3 years. Nobody is writing him off – he just needs playing time in AAA to work on hitting sinkers, splitters and cutters while learning the OF.
Sox got themselves a player. Dirtdog
Love this package for the Brewers.
Before this trade the Saux had the best WAR pitching staff in MLB. With Harrison gone, not that it means much, this could elevate the Tigers to the #1 spot.
Harrison is so low on the depth chart and I suspect they now understand why the Giants included him in the Devers deal.
Harrison has to be behind Crawford, Sandoval, Early and Tolle.
Goose — it’s also probably he was in front of them. Or at least the Sox could nominally hold that view. But truthfully they hold the others as more important.
Either way, Harrison was rebuilt and value was transferred fittingly.
Harrison was expected to throw ~1% of the innings in FGDC. I don’t think this is going to push the bar much.
That was a long article
Breslow must really think Harrison sucks
HE got pretty much nothing for him. Durbin is a 101 wrc guy ( at peak) and on his 4th or more organization already.
Hes going to be a bench/ utility guy for redsox.
They will figure out by May that they didnt add a starter for a good team
I think Durbin will surprise you. He’s a very good player.
2.8 WAR. Above average hitting and glove. He is a very good player.
Baseballisthebest
4 hours ago
2.8 WAR. Above average hitting and glove. He is a very good player.
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I managed to watch a 2025 Durbin highlight reel.
I like this guy—he’s energetic, has good defense.
He’s a third-base defense with a 1.060.2 Inn,, +5 DRS, +2 OAA, contact, speed, will steal bases regularly, 20-30 times over a full season, doesn’t have a right-handed/left-handed split, and will have a lot of doubles at Fenway.
Wow, Durbin had 24 hits by pitch last season.
In terms of energy, I would compare him to Pedroia.
He hit 105 wRC+ with a .265 BABIP in his rookie season so you may want to adjust your peak prediction or any other unfounded presumptions. Who cares how many orgs he’s been on at 25 y.o.?
Durbin will be the starting 3B, not a bench piece. Bottom of the order hitter with a strong glove won’t hurt anything
Durbin is a nice acquisition for the Sox. Have a look at Jomboy today. Nice offseason for Breslow.
Yankees have rebuilt their 2025 team; Toronto’s Linsanity season came to an end and they did nothing to improve their team;; and the O’s didn’t do enough. I like the Sox chances in 2026.
Best – This offseason Breslow failed to retain Bregman, failed to acquire the RH power bat he prioritized, failed to upgrade the catcher position he prioritized, and failed to add an impact bullpen arm he prioritized.
Sorry I wouldn’t characterize his offseason as nice. Not yet anyway.
Fever Pitch Guy — What are you talking about ‘failed’?
Durbin for Bregman isn’t a bad trade off since it got us Suarez. Contreras is a good RH power bat. The power from his bat speed can be found in his exit velocities which he routinely rakes.
You may be correct the catcher and bullpen arm weren’t yet addressed externally. However, Narvaez will get his second season, and Wong will probably have some revival.
Other aspects were addressed with Oviedo, Bennett, Gray and utility players KinerF, Monasterio, and Seigler. The early re-signing of Chapman was also very encouraging.
A better way to describe it is as a coupon clipping mom who barters and makes swaps for used goods. Exhausting and embarrassing to anyone pride but as or more effective.
Cleve – Those are all things Breslow himself said he wanted to do.
When you don’t achieve your goals, it’s a failure.
I never said I supported all his goals ;O)
Believe me, I’m glad Durbin is here rather than Bregman. No need to sell me on that one!
Fever Pitch Guy — Corporate hacks set unrealistic expectations when they sell. He has gotten close, and that’s all I think is fair to defend.
I’m also very excited with Durbin over Bregman.
Do you think Breslow can manage to find a bullpen arm before OD? Or will he wait for the trade deadline?
Cleve – I’m still not understanding your first sentence, it went over my head. LOL
Personally I think they can manage with what they have for the pen. Tolle, Sandoval, Crawford, Kelly, Slaten, Weissert, Whitlock, Chapman. If Sandoval does get traded or isn’t ready to pitch, Early or Moran are options.
Early and Oviedo could swap spots too between the rotation and the pen.
There’s always plenty of relievers available at the deadline, if not sooner.
Suarez, Gray, Oveido, Contrarez, Durbin, IKF, shed excess and meh pieces. Breslow’s doing a good job retaining our potential in our prospects as well
Hopefully this puts to rest the Baty to Boston speculation. Hope it’s not replaced by Baty to Brewers speculation.
As much as Murphy loved Durbin and his style of play, this shocks me more than it should have.
Harrison is certainly a prime contender for a Brewers’ pitching lab upgrade..
Brewers fans lament: Who the hell is going to play third base? I would be shocked if they traded for Paredes.
While at the time the Durbin trade from Yankees to Milwaukee was a no brained acquiring Williams who was one of the top closers at the time I also hated it for the Yankees because Durbin is exactly what they need in this lineup and exactly what they can’t obtain. This is why they are so in on Nico Hoerner. They lack high contact, speed, versatility. Durbin would have been perfect platooning with McMahon and leading off against LH pitchers. Good trade for Boston.
Trading Campbell makes no sense until his value increases — even then he may still turn into a good hitter. Love the “they screwed him up” comments here. So you bring up a 22 yo and give him a chance in your lineup — he fails and you send him down to work. That’s every MLB team everywhere. To suggest he’s finished is nuts.
Most prospects have a position to play though. Not get jerked around three different ways your rookie season.
Kind of disagree here — if you’re young and up and coming you have to be willing to find a way to get yourself into the line-up. There are no guaranteed spots when you’re 22. He tried and failed which is OK. Doesn’t mean he’s finished or the organization jerked him around. Mayer was a SS and was willing to play 3B or 2B as opposed to sit behind Story.
Fantastic trade! Breslow just got a RH Donovan who makes less money and has more control for a smaller trade package. He also got a depth infielder who can also put on the tools of ignorance in an emergency to stash in AAA plus a draft pick.
All for a depth back of the rotation starter, a glove only infielder, and a meh prospect.
Jose Bello last man standing in Devers trade
BoSox fans reacting like it’s over the top style of trade. To the 98% of baseball fans this is a nothing burger. Part time players for Part time players. Meh!!
Am I crazy or did Boston not just fleece Milwaukee horribly here?
No they didn’t. Both teams fleeced each other. This move squarely put BoSox at a comfortable 4th place finish at best
NewOrleansSaintsFan
50 mins ago
This move squarely put BoSox at a comfortable 4th place finish at best
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I read this nonsense last season too.
The trolls are getting more active.
@NewOrleansSaintsFan
Judging by your comment, the team you root for probably didn’t make any *moves* this offseason. That’s too bad (again).
Yeah Boston fleeced them by taking all their utility players they didn’t have playing time for because they have impact talent coming up from the farm.
Utility players don’t start every playoff game.
Sure they do
Chourino, Turang, Yelich must be utility guys…
I believe Yelich only plays outfield. Maybe 1b if he had to. Chourino don’t know them.
4th is nyy
Sure, just like Boston fleeced Milwaukee on the Priester trade last year. The reigning (and back to back) MLB exec of the year knows what he’s doing.
You’re kidding right? Just the opposite, the Brewers fleeced the Red Sox ,,,,,again!
rafa – What I would like to know, why did “fleece” become a bad thing?
It’s a great material.
Soft
Lightweight
Insulating
I would love to get fleeced!
baah baah baah givvve meeeh maaah fleeecccce baahck.
No one fleeces Mil. I like this a lot both ways.
“No one fleeces Mil.” ??? Oh really?
Remember Luis Arias, Leo Crawford, Chad Sobotka, Gasser, Junk, etc. ?? The verdict is still out on the Burnes, Peralta, D. Williams, Houser and the trades this off season..
Frankly, this trade doesn’t sway me either way. Because it’s another typical MKE around the edges trade where the overrated FO thinks they’re the smartest guys in the room. Either way, still doesn’t move the team forward in a major way.
The dudes brewers have gotten for Burnes and Williams put up a 8 WAR ly and they didn’t have to pay a combined $300Ms. Either you’re a salty cubs fan or a brewers fan who thinks spending money equates success and it just doesn’t. Works for the dodgers that’s it.
@joshbrewersstan
“8 WAR ly” really?? Ortiz, Hall, Durbin, Cortes, correct? I suggest you check again or maybe learn to add unless I’m forgetting someone?
I never said “spending money equates success.” While we’ll never know, I’m betting spending an extra 10-20M in a year or two at some point over the past decade would have possibly meant a WS appearance instead of the usual one and done (other than last year) playoff series.
Or perhaps avoid the typical trading of anyone other than Yelich or Woodruff whenever they get close to FA. If the “culture” or “clubhouse” is really as good as they say it is in MKE. Why the constant revolving door of certain types of players? You would think some players would stay on a bit of a discount if the “culture” were actually that above average. Of course, most of us realize “culture & clubhouse” are just code words for something else.
The 8 WAR is a cumulative number from 2024&2025 years I didn’t state that properly. The other part of this post is nonsense. If regular season success deserves players being extended then why do you and others say “YoU cAn’T wIn A pLaYoFf SeRiEs” How may playoff series did the core of Hater Williams Burnes Peralta Adames win from 2019-2024? 0. So 0 playoff series wins deserves almost $1BN in extensions? Hahahahaha no shot.
I like this trade for both sides. Durbin is a good defensive 3B and moving to Fenway might improve his power taking aim at the Green Monster
I think the Brewers plan to acquire Isaac Paredes from Houston, but before they could get serious, they had to block the team that was asking about him, which was Boston. The Astros need a lefty starter and a reliever, so Robert Gasser and Trevor Megill would suffice.
Astros need a Lefty bat. They wanted Abreu as he formerly was in the Minors for Houston. That is what they were wanting with Red Sox. I think wanted Donavan from Cardinals but we know Seattle swooped in. Myself I doubt Paredes goes to Milwaukee
As a Brewer fan, i really want Paredes.
However, no way am I giving up an All-Star closer AND a solid back end starting lefty handed pitcher, who is under team control for 6 more years!
That is way too much for Paredes.
My dream of Made breaking camp with the big club is inching closer…
2027 dude
Sal Frelich to third base?
That’s what I was wondering
Hahahahahahahahaha
You don’t move Gold Glove talent from right field to 3rd where he’s completely unproven and could be a liability. As 47 others have stated on this thread, there’s either a trade for Paredes coming or imo, more likely they move Ortiz to 3rd and give the keys to SS to Jett. Or try Jett at 3rd in spring training and keep Ortiz at SS as long as he hits .250 and keeps playing great defense.
I read a post saying “Cubs fans “pleased.” Why? The Brewers just clearly got better!
Well with this deal I assume it puts Paredes to bed and no deal there since the deal with Milwaukee they got a 3rd baseman. Red Sox did that is. So Paredes may be gone at deadline now. And maybe others as Astros will fall
The Red Sox have now traded away Harrison, Drohan, Bernardino and Murphy this offseason. I guess they’re content to let Aroldis be the only lefty in the bullpen…
They really like Jovani Moran, his underlying metrics and stuff are much better than what the results have shown.
Also, if everyone is healthy then they’ll need a place for Sandoval to play (although a trade seems more likely) and Crawford can be used in place of a lefty reliever.
But I agree, one more lefty (Justin Wilson?) would be nice.
Ban – I don’t think Harrison was ever going to be in the plans for this season.
Tolle will support Chapman in the pen.
This is another trade win for the brewers. Harrison fits the exact same profile as Priester did and Durbin for as good as he was only finished with a wRC+ of 105. He was slightly better than a replacement level player (weak NL rookie class to be third in voting IMO). Between Hamilton and/or Williams/Pratt/Wilken/Adams/Black/ Fischer/Made I’m confident brewers can fill at a replacement level
How is Harrison fitting the same profile as Priester? Aside from both being high-profile prospects whose fortunes fell, they are drastically different pitchers.
That’s a big profile tho – and brewers have a near decade record of getting the most out of discarded and waived dudes
Absolutely
MKE has also missed on several pitchers over the past decade. Just like every other MLB team. The Brewers are recently a little bit better than the average MLB team at developing pitchers.
The so called MKE “pitching lab” isn’t as great or extra ordinary as many make it out to be.
HBan22
2 mins ago
The Red Sox have now traded away Harrison, Drohan, Bernardino and Murphy this offseason. I guess they’re content to let Aroldis be the only lefty in the bullpen…
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Moran, Sandoval, Bennett, Samaniego
Not overly impressed. Bennett and Samaniego have never pitched in the majors, Sandoval hasn’t pitched in two years and had TJS, and Moran looked absolutely horrid last season.
HBan – Drohan has never pitched in the majors either
The Sox pick up guys that are controllable for the future.. That’s what this is all about. May the best man win the 2nd base and 3rd base positions. but if they don’t work out, there is depth.
This! I wish Brewers fans would understand baseball like S9x fans. Wisconsin people still think its 1980
“…who’ll further the Red Sox’ pivot toward run prevention…”
Sound like another AL East team?? Can’t beat em, join em! Bob Mccowan always said its a copycat league! Or maybe that was hockey lol
Anyone else notice that the Red Sox seem to be cornering the market on multi-positional catchers on a 40-man? They’re up to 3 now: Wong, Gasper and now Seigler.
Jon Herman is reporting that Brewers are signing Anthony Rendon to a one year deal. 20 million with 19 million deferred until 2046.
Seigler is able to throw with both hands which is pretty cool.
Hot-take: Durbin is a borderline Quad-A player. He was a throw-in for the Devin Williams trade (Nestor Cortes was the main catch for Milwaukee.) Not extremely highly regarded in the Yankees farm system. Although I recall Boone doing his typical song & dance trying to puff up his mediocre prospects for trade interest.
And yet he managed to finish third in the roy voting..did boone do the same song and dance with narvaez, whitlock and weissert?
I just heard him do it again with Brett Headrick.
Ah,to Poolhalljunkies… as far as ROY voting, I remember 2 Yankees that have been torn apart various times on this site who finished in the top 3 several years ago….Andujar was 2nd and Torres was 3rd….Andujar has kicked around for several years and Torres is playing 2nd for the Tigers but both of those players have fallen far from expectations after finishing that high in the voting…so basically I’m saying ROY vote placement doesn’t mean squat…..
Hot take but I am rooting for it to be true.
Bad enough I think Harrison is a #3 who could be a #2 but to have Durbin be nothing on top of that would be hilarious.
Harrison is not currently a #3 the man has never been able to crack an mlb rotation and stick with SF or Boston and last year in Boston they had starters dropping like flies and still he didnt cut it..so technically he isn’t even #5
.before you start counting cy young votes how about he actually makes a team..I get projections but all hes done at the mlb level is fail..while durbin was successful in his shot…so..thus far durbin > Harrison
How Boston SF used or didn’t use him has absolutely nothing to do with his value.
How many players produce >2 WAR as rookies and then fail to stick in the majors? It happens but odds are Durbin is a solid contributor. He may never make an AS team but he’s the kind of player you want on your team.
Brewers fans never really understand trades
Closing the circle, Brewers trade Harrison to the Giants for Casey Schmidt (and change) because…why not?
Wow Milwaukee must really value Harrison highly if they give up durbin AND a pick for him.
So the David Hamilton tookie card worth anything?
The Saga continues
I posted this in a different thread, but there are a lot more people commenting on this one. What does everyone think of this lineup/offense?
Lineup :
1. Roman Anthony – LF
2. Caleb Durbin – 3B
3. Jarren Duran – DH
4. Willson Contreras – 1B
5. Trevor Story – SS
6. Wilyer Abreu – RF
7. Ceddanne Rafaela – CF
8. Marcelo Mayer – 2B
9. Carlos Narvaez – C
Bench Options :
Connor Wong – C
Triston Casas – 1B
Andruw Monasterio – INF
Isiah Kiner-Falefa – INF
Romy Gonzalez – INF
Nick Sogard – INF
Nate Eaton – Utility
Anthony Seigler – Utility
Kristian Campbell – Utility
(Yoshida will be gone by the end of spring training.)
HBan22
1 day ago
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I think this line-up will be more effective; we need to make maximum use of the fast players.
Lineup :
1. Jarren Duran – LF/DH
2. Caleb Durbin – 3B/2B
3. Roman Anthony– DH/LF
4. Willson Contreras – 1B
5. Wilyer Abreu – RF
6. Trevor Story – SS
7. Marcelo Mayer – 2B/3B
8. Carlos Narvaez – C
9. Ceddanne Rafaela – CF
Bench:
Romy, Wong, Kiner-Falefa, Yoshida
A+ for Milwaukee. Had to do this trade. As I said 237 times I like Harrison. Already mid rotation as is. Won’t be surprised if Milwaukee gets #2 out of him. Drohan looking like a starter as well and a good one. Not Harrison good but good. #4. And all for a bunch of excess utility players. Useful. Durbin really useful. Gotta give to get though and they got much more.
D for Boston. D for DD. Maybe should have kept that guy. Or Bloom. Or Cherington. Or Theo. At least it isn’t as awful as the Sale trade. How could anything ever be that bad though. They traded for Oviedo. Traded for Gray. All so they could trade away more valuable pitchers for utility players. But at least they got 3 mlb utility players instead of a single failed 2b only prospect. Even got a draft pick.
Sorry I had to ham it up. Just some many people saying Boston won. What was Milwaukee thinking! Durbin and crew are sure things or as sure as players like them can be. Not impact players though. Milwaukee got 2 starting pitchers. Left handed. Potential. High ceiling. Solid floor. Low risk high reward have to do trade.
Good to hear from a Boston fan what we are getting. Durbin is tough as nails. You will like him. He will probably never make an AS team, but he plays hard and he’s above average everywhere but power.
Mono Stereo is just a guy, but he isn’t far below a starter in ability and plays multiple positions, so everyone likes someone like that.
Pat Murphy says their minors have a LOT of ready talent for the left side of the infield. If you believe him, you can see the Crew having two rookies at SS and 3rd – whom they think have high upside.
To be honest, the Crew is about 4 or 5 deep with high upside left side infielders. Combined you can think Ortiz and Durbin are average on the left side. Seems the Brewers are making an upside, long term play and getting some starting pitching along the way (who themselves have upside).
those guys are all 1-2 years away.
This was a great pick up. He’ll do well in that park. Im thinking Caroline just got a little sweeter.
I like this trade. Harrison was a depth piece, they have plenty of left handed starting talent. I think both players will do well and help their new teams. And that’s how trades should work. Teams are much more willing to deal with opposing teams that will offer quality for quality on a consistent basis. Clearly there has to be some positional decisions made. I like his defense. That alone has value. Plus he’s a right handed bat. You want tough outs in your lineup not just a bunch of solo home runs. I think he fits this team as they have a vision for a good lineup and solid defense. You have to score more runs than the other team on a consistent basis. You don’t need to lead the league in runs to lead the league in wins.
Good trade for the Red Sox not the Brewers.
Watch Kyle Harrison turn into the next Corbin Burnes and Durbin will be a career 105 OPS+ (101 last year) guy. Durbin is a useful and defensively versatile regular, but he’s not going to turn into Dustin Pedroia.
If Harrison turns into Quinn Preister 2.0 it will be fine for Milwaukee. I hope Durbin continues to play well. He is a tough as nails player.
Durbin is affordable,controllable and a godd defender. Right up their alley.
I don’t know much about the Brewers farm system but they have four infield prospects in the top 100, three of them are AA or AAA, and all are 22 or under. Do any of them look like they can start being shifted towards playing third regularly? I have to imagine the Brewers made this trade thinking one of them would replace Durbin sooner than later.
they are all 1-2 years away though.
It was so fun watching the Brewer’s incredible season last year. Durbin was a big part of it. I hope the Brew Crew can bring the magic back again this year.
way less power and runs a lot better.
I wonder if Duran, Durbin, Story, and Rafaela can steal 30 bases each this year.
They also have Kiner-Falefa, Eaton, Gonzalez, and Anthony, who can steal 10+ bases.
I think they could set a new season stolen base record.
2025;
T.Story – 31sb / 32 attempt
J.Duran – 24sb / 30 attempt
C.Rafaela – 20sb / 25 attempt
C.Durbin – 18sb / 24 attempt
I.Kiner-Falefa – 15sb / 19attempt
R.Gonzalez – 6sb / 11attempt
N.Eaton – 9sb/ 11attempt (90 PA!!!)
Not real familiar with Caleb Durbin so will reserve judgement on the Red Sox portion of the trade but am familiar with what the Brewers got in the trade.
Kyle Harrison is a potential back end starter he’s a big time fly ball pitcher and gives up hard contact. He has a home run problem. Even in SF a place where fly balls go to die he gave up a lot of homers. He has a good fastball up in the zone that can miss bats which is why he strikes out more than 9 per 9 but when the fastball comes down in the zone it gets obliterated he gives up some truly tape measure home runs. He’s likely to always have an issue with home runs which will probably keep him from being more than 4 or 5. Still he has a chance to be a decent back end pitcher and let’s face it he was #9 on the Red Sox depth chart. He has to walk less people as well he walked a ton of guys in AAA with the ABS system. I think he walked close to 5 per 9 in Worcester.
Shane Drohan I think can also be a back end starter if he can stay healthy. This guy just hasn’t been able to stay healthy. My guess is he winds up in the pen. He’s fun to watch pitch he throws a bunch of pitches most of them average or better he has deception in his delivery he strikes guys out has much better secondaries than Harrison. He just can’t stay healthy it’s always the left arm with this guy. Perhaps he will be healthy in the pen. He’s useful but very doubtful he will be anything more than a reliever.
David Hamilton is a AAAA player who is great on the bases so he is useful.
In summation Harrison has a really good fastball that he doesn’t throw particularly hard and he throws it like 60% of the time. Unless the Brewers can teach him a secondary that he can throw and not get whacked he’s a back end guy or also maybe a reliever. Drohan has had a ton of injury problems can’t take a starters stress probably a reliever and probably a long reliever. Hamilton is useful as a speed guy that can play second base defensively he’s a complete butcher at short. I will be interested to see what the Brewers do with Harrison and getting him some decent secondaries. Maybe they really are magic but Harrison seems to be one of those guys who have talent but will never totally put it together.
One other thing like it or not ABS is coming this year and it likely is going to tighten the strike zone. When pitchers went from the no ABS in the Eastern league at Portland quite a few pitchers I noticed had more difficulty throwing strikes. Strike throwers are going to be at a premium especially nasty in the zone strike throwers. Guys that have trouble throwing strikes are going to struggle.
I like this trade for the Red Sox. They get two infielders who are good defenders – just what the team needed. Monasterio will be able to fill in if there are injuries. IKF is a good utility guy. Since Romy is dealing with a bad shoulder, he may not be available for at least parts of the season. The Red Sox have addressed their biggest deficiency. Story should definitely be kept around for his hitting ability from the right side.
Boston did not overpay for that big bat. Letting Bregman go after he gave up $40 million x 2 years was a smart move. He wanted long term security which the Cubs gave him even though he is likely to decline after a few years. With a new found priority of infield defense, going for the hit first player like Alonso did not make sense.
Boston has put together a very good team with extra depth in the infield, outfield and pitching areas. Now we will have to wait and see which players perform up to their potential. Of course, injuries can change things very quickly..
I am looking forward to Spring training to see how everything works out. There may be another trade depending on how Spring training sorts out for all the teams. I could see IKF moving at the trade deadline if the new additions from this last trade work out.
Just another case of the Sox blocking all the talent they have in the minors. I just don’t get it.
Yaz’sOldBattingGloves
6 hours ago
Just another case of the Sox blocking all the talent they have in the minors. I just don’t get it.
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Who are they blocking?