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Dontrelle Willis Arrested, Griffey Hurt

A couple of top baseball stories that can't be classified as trade rumors but shouldn't be ignored:

Dontrelle Willis was arrested this morning on a drunk driving charge and refused a breathalyzer.  It's just a shame to see a stand-up guy and role model do this.  I mean we've all urinated on the street before but there's no excuse for driving while intoxicated.

Meanwhile, Ken Griffey Jr. broke his left hand in a mysterious home accident.  Most likely a vigorous session of Guitar Hero was involved.  Griffey's teammate, Adam Dunn, actually played the 2005 season with a broken hand.  I'm not sure which bones were involved in either case, however.  It's still quite possible that Junior could be ready for spring training.

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Aw..poor Griffey. I adore him, I hope he gets better. He always seems to be injured, even off the field!

I hate hearing that news about the D-Train. I don't understand why people drink and drive..I mean can't he call a cab, or get somebody to drive him around? Mmmm.

That sucks, twice. Two of my favorite people in baseball.

I guess that's what Dontrelle gets for being a dumbass.

There's a huge difference between driving drunk and driving under the influence of alcohol. If you have a glass of wine with dinner and then drive, according to the law, you are driving under the influence of alcohol. Lowering the BAC to 0.08 in most states does nothing to increase safety: problem drinkers will still drive drunk and people who drink responsibly will still feel the brunt of this law.

He did the right thing by refusing to take the breathalyzer. The state now has to prove he was drunk behind the wheel without having any analysis to support them. Willis' case will either be dismissed or reduced to reckless op (if he was pulled over for erratic driving). He was a very wise man to refuse the test and just for reference, if anybody has a beer or two with dinner or a glass of wine and then gets pulled over, you'd be wise to follow his lead.

Let's home Griffey doesn't buy "Dance Dance Revolution" and risk tearing his hamstring again.
I'm disappointed about Willis. I always liked him but will now always associate him (at least slightly) with this. I agree with tinathemetsgrl, he's urinating next to his Bentley, he should be able to afford a cab. Maybe New York should trade for Willis and Wood so they can help Alou with his pregame rituals.

omg u guys, he got pulled for DUI so what, that just show us their normal people, they like to have fun, and if ur drunk u dont think of taking a cab u just drive, thats why u just always have a designated driver.

Just like the comment that albert pujols made, now everybody think his and asshole and he is a great guy, willis is a good guy that good caught having fun.haters.

Samael, I've heard that Pujols is a pud since he played Class A in the town I was going to school, so I'd think twice before dubbing him a "great guy" just because Joe Buck says he is.

I guess we should expect nothing less from a guy that starts a post with "omg u guys" than to try to argue that driving drunk is "having fun." For all of the ridiculous posts I've read in my life, that's probably the worst.

"rugbyhooker" what is worng with you...D-train refused the breathalyzer because he was probably wasted...u should not tell people to refuse when u dont know what you're talking about. 1.)If u have 2 drinks at dinner in a 2hour span...chances are they wont even come up on the breathalyzer
2.)The breathalyzer is not submisable in court it is just to give the officers an idea of how drunk u are
3.)U are arrested based on "common law" which says everyone in this country has either seen someone or been drunk themselves. You know those little finger tests also known as the FAT's(field alcohol tests)yeeaa...thats how they know ur drunk....but if u like losing ur license for 6 months automatically for refusing a breathalyzer because u had 2 drinks....be my guest but dont influence others with your ignorance.....D-train gets what he deserves...he is know diiferent than anyone else.

Hooker - WTF are you talking about? Dontrelle was seen pissing on the street and you're acting like he most likely had a beer or a glass of wine with dinner??? Sheesh

Ken Griffey Jr. has and will always be one of my favorite players ever. He also has the most beautiful swing I've ever seen in my lifetime(I'm 24). I wish he'd stop getting hurt and reach the milestones he should've shattered years ago.

I think it's safe to say that if Willis failed a field sobriety test he shouldn't have been on the road.

"Samael, I've heard that Pujols is a pud since he played Class A in the town I was going to school, so I'd think twice before dubbing him a "great guy" just because Joe Buck says he is."

mike, id rather trust joe buck and KIDS WITH DOWN SYNDROME and of course his team mates than some cubbies fan.


and i didnt not say driking under the influnce was having fun, but drinking can be, of course if u control ur self.

roto, i think u should be able to edit ur post also on the website for typos, and articles to open in new windows.

If I were the Reds, I'd lock Griffey in a room with just bubble wrap. I guess players' contracts will now prohibit them from playing other sports in the offseason and Guitar Hero II. Griffey's going to get a lot of mean glares in the spring training clubhouse.

The officers don't need a breathalyzer to prove Willis was intoxicated. He failed a sobriety test and that will definitely convict him of a DUI. It doesn't matter if was drunk, high or cracked out, he shouldn't have been behind the wheel because he wasn't sober. Refusing to take a breathalyzer gives the officer reason to believe you are either a.) drunk and don't want to take it, or b.) you're on drugs and you'll pass it - prompting the officer to search your car.

And for that moron who said drinking is just having fun: it's pathetic and a sign of immaturity if you need alcohol to have fun. There's nothing fun or "so what" about endangering innocent people. And if you want to fix your typos in your posts, hit "Preview" and proofread before you post.

That guy is a retard if you think you can just refuse to take a breathalyzer. If you refuse to take a breathalyzer you will be arrested and are automatically considered guilty in a court. You maybe able to request to be taken to a hospital for a blood test if you think the breathalyzer is inaccurate.

who says that pujols isn't a nice guy? Sure he does charity work, but he seems like an asshole a lot of the time. Like really petty and bickering a lot even though he should be higher than certain issues considering he is a god in baseball.

just to reiterate what everyone has been saying and what i said earlier in the post....The Breathalyzer is NOT i repeat NOT admissable in court...it is for the police to know how drunk u are because some alcoholics have a huge tolerance and do better at the FAT's than others and may seem like they are not as drunk even though they're BAC is .2 so the breathalyzer confirms an approximate BAC...THAT'S IT

The kid made a mistake but it doesnt erase al lof the good he has done.

"The Breathalyzer is NOT i repeat NOT admissable in court"

As far as I know it is 100 percent submissible in florida courts. My friend is in the middle of a court case for it now. I dunno if they've admitted that yet but he was arrested based on the reading of his BAC level.

"1.)If u have 2 drinks at dinner in a 2hour span...chances are they wont even come up on the breathalyzer"

Dude have you ever seen or taken one of these tests? Take 2 or 3 big gulps and then go blow into one of those things and I pormise you something will show up.

"3.)U are arrested based on "common law" which says everyone in this country has either seen someone or been drunk themselves. You know those little finger tests also known as the FAT's(field alcohol tests)yeeaa...thats how they know ur drunk"

Dude in the state of Florida you can have drinks and still drive. you need to be past a certain level on the BAC scale to be convicted for a DUI. If Dontrelle would have taken the test and bew less then a certain level (I forget the level because it was lower recently)he could have just gotten in the car and drove away.

Where are you from? You do realize every state has their own laws regarding DUI and all that. It's not the same everywhere. I had a friend recently arrested for a DUI and they didn't even give him a FAT.

Judge, can we get a ruling on this?

The kid made a mistake but it doesnt erase al lof the good he has done.

Posted by: Baseballfan79 | December 22, 2006 at 02:45 PM

thats was i was trying to say!

in the words of nancy reagan "Just Say No"

in the words of nancy reagan "Just Say No"

Duuude...my fathers cop asshole and ive taken many

1.)thats the reason the "field" alkasensor is not submissable because it's an APPROXIMATION it does not work perfectly henseforth the reason why if u have to drinks u are not going to get a DWI.

2.) "common law" is a federal law Dumbass

and ur friend's case is because he took another test down at the station which is more accurate.... and as for ur friend who didnt take the FAT's he should get a good lawyer because they CANT for the last time, arrest you for DWI in any state based on just the field Breathalyzer and if they do u will get the case thrown out.....No fine, no charge free to go

"Duuude...my fathers cop asshole and ive taken many"

Whats with the insults you stupid fuck. I was just making point based on my experiences with these cases. I didn't go calling you name so don't fucking start with me you piece of shit.

""common law" is a federal law Dumbass"

Maybe so but just because the state in which your dad works doesn't admit breath tests doesn not mean every state does not.

"and ur friend's case is because he took another test down at the station"

Actually, he did not. He was arrested right out front of my apartment. He blow over the legal limit and went straight from his car to the cop car. They never did a field test on him.

"and as for ur friend who didnt take the FAT's he should get a good lawyer because they CANT for the last time, arrest you for DWI in any state based on just the field Breathalyzer and if they do u will get the case thrown out.....No fine, no charge free to go"

Dude my friend got arrest based on his breath test spent the night in jail and had to pay fine and is still in the middle of his court case.

They don't need to give you a field test to arrest you. If thy feel like you are even slightly slurring words then that is reason enough to give you the breath test. If you fail the breath test then that is reason to arrest you.

The commom law for my understanding is the if it looks like a rat and smells like a rat then it is a rat theory. If he looks drunk and acts drunk then he is drunk. The breath test is used as a way to confirm all this and save time from doing field tests. If a guy is slurring words and looks drunk and blows over the legal limit then you can just arrest him.

i hate to see this happen . even though im a braves i realy like Dontrelle. i dont think this will affect anybody, but we have a good dolid pitcher on the all DUI team

"even though im a braves" its time you added yourself to that dumbass list you got. and why don't you proof read what you write before you post anything. your embarassing yourself with all these fucked up sentences and making yourself sound like a child.

proofread is actually one word. i expect that anyone with an IQ over 40(aka the Cubs fan line) would know i meant braves fan.

cubbies07 u really hate me dont u

----I hate hearing that news about the D-Train. I don't understand why people drink and drive..I mean can't he call a cab, or get somebody to drive him around?----

Actually in Miama it's probably safer to drive drunk than take a cab. Don't take my word on it though, just ask Duaner Sanchez. Maybe D-train was just looking for a spanish resteraunt to take a wiz in.

oh no braves of course I don't hate you after all this is all just friendly conversation right? I just dont get why you think you need to dis everyone who has something positive to say about the cubs. I'm not dumb I know the cubs aren't the best team nor the best organization but if we don't stand by our teams then sites like this wouldn't exist. anyways we both love the game as do the rest of the readers so let us quit all the shit talking and let our teams do it for us during the season. agreed? GO CUBS!!!!

Brave fans ur right about the cubbies fan :)

jk lol

but go cardinals!

In every state in the U.S. refusal to take a breathalyzer is an admission of D.W.I. Due the whole driving being a priviledge not a right thing, the officer doesn't have to have a reason to ask you to take a breathalyzer, and if you don't take it or take it and fail you are guilty.

"'common law' is a federal law"

Um, NO!! A good life lesson is not to say anything when you don't know what you're talking about. Common law is judge-made law, as opposed to law that is found in statutes (whether state or federal) or made by administrative agencies.

I know nothing about DUI, in any state. But I suspect it's true that the states differ on this issue. A lot.

ill ignore the fake kudos to the bravesfan but hey "samael" how great is the cubs cards games gonna be this year. I think this year will really be great games to watch

yup they will be great.

Is good to see albert pujols hit some out against the cubbies :)

but they will be good games.

o and i really wish to the cubs a good season i mean im tired of the astros, i want the old rivalry back, not those red necks astros.though its good to see lidge come out of the pen.

1. Breathalyzer tests are 100% admissable in courts. That's why people who take them shell out big $$$ on attorneys who look for irregularities and lack of calibration on the BAC machines.

2. Field sobriety tests are not an indicator of drunkeness. Failure of one of the tests gives police probable cause to pursue a BAC reading on an individual. If you took a test completely sober, there is a decent chance that you would fail one of the tests. They are designed that way. Try standing on one leg with the other leg 6 inches off the ground at a 45 degree angle for 30 seconds. If you sway at all or drop the elevated leg even slightly, you have failed the test. A study has shown at best, these test have an 80% success rate in determining alcohol impairment.

3. You are absolutely allowed to refuse a breathalyzer test and you have not waived any right of innocence in doing so. You also DON'T have to submit to any field sobriety tests. The law states that you will lose your license for a period of 6 months to 1 year by refusing, but by not submitting to either sobriety or BAC tests, the state has a very weak case against you. Any half-assed attorney will have the charges thrown out against you. You will also be given work, school, and necessity privileges to drive. The most important factor is that your insurance will not skyrocket, your MVR will not have points added, and you will not be required to have a yellow (party) plate on your vehicle. You will save yourself thousands of dollars in fines and face no jail time. The pros far outweigh the cons in this situation.

Just to let it be known, I don't advocate operating a vehicle when drunk. As a DUI Attorney, I have seen many idiots come through the courts who should never be allowed to drive again. On the flip side, I have also seen many people who weren't drunk get penalized becasue .008 is very easy to surpass even if you are not drunk. 2 glasses of wine or 2 beers in a short period of time can put a 175 lb. person who blows a BAC test over the legal limit. If you had only 1 drink and are asked to blow, I'd say do it. Anything over that and you risk losing a lot of money and heavy embarrasment.

Remove one of the zeros from the BAC number I listed previously. It's .08 - my bad.

Let me also add that when I refer to BAC, I'm referring to in-station testing units - usually the Intoxilyzers. FAT units are becomming extinct now becasue of the high percentage of inaccuracy. If you fail a FAT test, there's a likely chance an attorney can have the reading thrown out.

Also, if you blow a FAT and are under the legal limit, that doesn't always mean you get to go on your merry way. The cop has the discrecion of placing you in custody if he feels that you are or will be a danger on the road. You could take 2 shots of vodka and immediately take a BAC test and pass. So you can blow a .06 - a score within legal - and you're still likely be detained. This is because if you drive off and injure/kill somebody, the cop and city will be subject to lawsuit also.

lol. "redneck astros". well yeah I'm looking forward to your precious pujols getting caught looking at zambranos 2 seamer followed by the fist pump. but I gotta ask you aren't you worried about your guys dwindling rotation? cuz I know besides big Z were really not all that secure ourselves. man if prior can stay healthy for once what a huge sleeper he could be.

im happy with carpenter, wainright and reyes, kip wells im not sure about but i know he was good with the pirates and if we sign mulder that be great.

the 2 rotations are about the same, an ace, a good rookie and some other guys.

as for pujols vs zambrano, pujols owns him so does edmonds. i just hope pujols doesnt get injured against ur cubbies again lol.

kip wells is terrible and you'll soon find that out. zambrano yeah was getting treated by pujols before but last year the cubs period handled pujols great all year!!

No one here has urinated in the street, Tim...wait, don't tell me you've actually... =)

Everybody giving out legal advice/information needs to realize that it is completely different by state.

For example, here in TN, if you refuse a breathalyzer you're screwed; it's viewed the same as blowing over the limit by the courts.

Jason- I understand penalties are arbitrary state to state and if by some horrible chance anybody gets charged with DUI, GET AN ATTORNEY.

As scary as they'll make it sound, if you've been drinking, refuse the breath test. Any pre-grad law student can get a DUI charge thrown out as long as you don't blow, pee, or get blood drawn. No alcohol percentage number = no hard facts against you. Now if you're involved in an accident, all my advice goes out the window. The state can then legally force you to submit to a BAC test.

cubbies i got to tell ya something lol, ur gonna find out how bad is jason marquis lol :)

well we'll see we do have a good bullpen with eyre howry wood cotts and ohman. wood proves through his previous stint in the bullpen that he's really effective so maybe if marquis can get us through 5 or 6 innings then maybe our bullpen will hold a lead. were almost certain to supply more run support and you never know a change of scenery can do him well. and plus since 04 he's got more wins then zito and pedro at 42!!! I know that's a head scratcher but its true.

cauase he was a cardinal lol

that will only go down wearing the cubs uniform lol.

dont get mad im just joking.

but w.e world champions :)

and i think our bullpen is better.

if ur lineup is healthy then its better than ours.

but derek lee is overated unless he proves his not, i see him like the adrian beltre situation.

but

eckstein
kenedy
pujols
edmonds
rolen
duncan
encarnacion
molina
pitcher.

seens like a pretty good lineup if healthy.

well I disagree totally about you having a better bullpen! come on now we whooped your guys ass all last year unfortunatly that's all we could hang our hat on. once we got your starters out we handled that bullpen of yours. and no you didn't just say lee was overrated!!! its easy to think that way when he's not playing everyday and how so fast we forget about players accomplishments. there no doubt that pujols is a way better hitter but lee is capable of putting up great numbers himself with a high average. the guy is a doubles machine. and as for defense there's no question lee is the better of the two although pujols has made strides. and one more thing, with all these new contracts derrick lee is a fuckin bargain now!!! There's no way he's overrated especially when everyones on pujols sack. your rolen and edmonds fellows are aging terribly and aren't what they used to be at all.

i know derek lee is cheap, just as jermaine dye is.

and what i mean for overated is that he hasnt put up those numbers more than 1 season, just 1, if he does it this year again then he gets my respect, i mean his a good player but not an all star, yet.

rolen and edmonds will be healthy, i hope.

and our bullpen is young and better, if they pitch like they did in the post season of course, and if i were u i would not count of those pussys of prior and wood they get injured walking.

btw im not arguing with u, just having some opinions.

well I do see what you mean about lee of course he needs to back up his 05 season with a good 07 and I'm sure he will, he's a good hitter who makes adjustments and I'm waiting for aram to have that big year that he's capable of! the guy could have an mvp type season if he could just hit consistently instead of cold and enormous hot streaks. well ill leave the bullpen alone for now but I can't tell you how excited I am. I'm just proud that finally the cubs are making the attempt to finally be a huge player. I know they may have not made the smartest signings and overpaid for sori but I'd rather overpay then not have him here at all. he's no savior but he's a help to the problem. I can already see lou and tony going at it from the dugouts

lol that be cool

and hopefully its not the astros this year, even though i wanna see lidge against pujols in the 9th again.

yeah I'd like to see lidge get rocked again. man for those who seen that game will always remember where they were when pujols shut up all those country hicks up. lidge still hasn't recovered since that day. but we really shouldn't underestimate the stros. they added a huge bat in carlos and a decent starter in jennings but we'll see. I seriously can't wait!!!!

I think we're all grossly overlooking a sweet Guitar Hero reference in the original story.

Kudos.

This is for the dipshit that said common law isnt related to federal law:

The common law constitutes the basis of the legal systems of: England and Wales, Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, "federal law" in the United States and the states' laws (except Louisiana), federal law in Canada and the provinces' laws (except Quebec civil law), Australia (both federal and individual states), New Zealand, South Africa, India, Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Brunei, Pakistan, Singapore, Malta, Hong Kong, and many other generally English-speaking countries or Commonwealth countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law

This is for the dipshit that said common law isnt related to federal law:

The common law constitutes the basis of the legal systems of: England and Wales, Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, "federal law" in the United States and the states' laws (except Louisiana), federal law in Canada and the provinces' laws (except Quebec civil law), Australia (both federal and individual states), New Zealand, South Africa, India, Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Brunei, Pakistan, Singapore, Malta, Hong Kong, and many other generally English-speaking countries or Commonwealth countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law

And now back to florida which is the state we were talking about:

Like most states the alcosensor or PBT (preliminary breath test)is NOT admissable in court and can only be used as probable cause for arrest. In some states(like GA) the PBT can be used to show presence or no presence of alcohol NOT a numerical figure. So if the officer does not have probable cause to pull you over and u do not take the PBT he MUST give u field sobriety tests as actual evidence in court and ONLY after observing u for AT least 20 minutes is the intoxilyzer allowed to be given. So if u've had 2 drinks at dinner and it's been at least 15 to 30 minutes the alcosensor will be pretty acurate at showing a .04 or less.

As for the guy who said he's a DUI lawyer.....I feel pain for your clients cause u dont know SHIIIIT!

Good points by the DUI lawyer above...I guess we really don't know exactly what Dontrelle did.

That's simple.....He drank too much and drove....

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