Mets Close To Deal For Luis Castillo

Then let's hope this deal doesn't work out as poorly as the Bannister-Burgos deal did.

I guess this means I'll have a Met on my fantasy team. That sucks.

http://skinnymoose.com/thebaseballguy

Twins will probably bring up Alexi Casilla from AAA to take over second base. They may possibly try out Matt Tolbert, but Casilla is the main guy in the Twins long term second base plans.

Probably Nick Punto or Alexi Casilla.

Great move for the Mets, Imo. SHould help out alot.

jersey dont even bother with guys like SBE. They see Bannister have a good month or so and say the trade is a loss. Bannister never was going to see daylight in the mets rotation. How come some people are just to dim witted to understand this very simple freakin concept. I dont get it. Burgos may well end up being the guy to come after Billy. He is complaining about the John Maine, El Duque, and Oliver Perez trades though, why, cuz hindsight is 20/20 and any idiot can say whata good trade was after the fact.

Id much rather see an RP arm like cordero or rauch plus an OF than a 2b upgrade, but if a good arm comes too, Im ok with luis

The Mets already have a couple lefty-mashers for the outfield. Sure, the Jury's still out on Milledge with only 23 ABs against lefties this season, but the .391 / .417 / .739 line he's put against them is a good start. And assuming Alou is healthy and plays 3-5 days a week, I'd say they're pretty set in that department. Green could play a little more than Alou, also occasionally spelling Delgado at 1B, and Milledge could move between RF and LF when Beltran gets back, playing almost every day. And you still have Easley off the bench.

More hindsight. Brian Bannister tops out at like 88, he is a control pitcher who couldnt control shyt last year. Maine, Perez, El Duque, Glavine, all givins for the rotation pre season. Now are options for the number 5 guy. Bannister, Park, Vargas, Sosa, Soler, Williams, Sele, Lawrence. I think it was pretty safe to trade Bannister for a 22 year old who was brought up way to soon who has just dominating stuff. Like I said though, Im sure your not complaining about the Oliver Perez deal. Armchair gm, hindsight is still 20/20 huh?

Don't even pronounce sammy sosa and Mets in the same sentence. It's a horrible move.

Another bad deal for Minaya, he keeps bringing this old guys who are falling apart and blocking young talent like Gotay. Terrible move.

Yeah, Bannister was another one..

Whatever Minaya. Trade for Livan Hernandez and some other 60 year old guy.

Don't get your panties in a bunch, francis.

I never said good ol' Omar never won any trades, just that he didn't win the Bannister-Burgos trade.

Decent gamble, but isn't paying off, ESPECIALLY if Burgos gets the knife this offseason.

phils acquire lohse

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7075268

"he needs to have more patience with young pitchers, IMO"

Oh, you mean guys like Pelfrey, Maine, and Perez? He has been pretty patient with them. All of you guys who think Gotay is the second coming, just relax. He isnt that good. He hits good against right handed pitching, cant field and cant hit right handed. He is a liability in the field in the playoffs, I would rather see andy hernandez playing at second in big games. Ill take defense over offense at second any day.

With a slumping/aching Beltran, Delgado, and Lo Duca, plus a black hole in Green, I think Gotay's bat is needed. Who cares if he isn't the best against lefties... he isn't important enough to bring in a situational lefty to face. He'll see mostly righty pitching, which he's doing great against.

Anyway, as long as he's our #1 guy off the bench, I guess I can live with Castillo at 2B. Definitely not A-Hern though. He makes Shaun Green look like Pujols.

Luis Castillo: .709 OPS
Ruben Gotay: .886 OPS

Ugh, ugh, ugh.

I was afraid Omar would do something like this. Gotay's playing a bit over his head, but even if he loses 100 points of OPS he's still better than Castillo. Simply awful.

Gotay: 4.2 P/PA
Castillo: 4.0 P/PA

I wouldn't say "simply awful," but I would say that this is a trade that the Mets didn't need, but with the activity of the Braves and Phillies, they felt pressured to make. What troubles me about it the most is that it's a typical Mets 'wow, we liked this guy five years ago, let's just assume he's the same player' kind of moves. It also reeks of that arbitrary distinction between an 'everyday player' like Castillo, and a mere fill-in, like Gotay. In that flawed view, the Mets replaced a fill-in with a regular, and thus made an improvement.

All that said, I don't mind 2 months of Castillo.

This isn't about upgrading you're fantasy team, this is about making the Mets lineup and defense up the middle more efficient. P/PA means nothing, David Wright has lead the Mets in that stat forever, but its because he fouls off a ton of balls with two strikes. Same with Gotay. P/PA has more to do with quality ABs than taking pitches for a basestealer. The fact is Castillo is a smart veteran with plenty left in the tank. He'll see nothing but fastballs hitting 2nd with Reyes on base, and he'll know how to handle that just fine. So what if he doesn't OPS as much as Gotay, he'll do all the little things that Gotay just isn't ready to do yet, the things the Mets are lacking, especially up the middle and even from their superstar shortstop. Gotay may well one day do all of those things, but I like the Mets chances better this year with Castillo, and I like Gotay's chances in the longrun having Castillo to tutor him.

Especially for Dustin Martin, who's never going to see Shea Stadium in a Mets uniform, and Drew Butera, who its tough to see in any major league uniform for an extended time period. I mean, even for the draft picks you get from Castillo its worth it for those two. In that sense, the impact of this deal is equally as negative on the Twins as it is positive on the Mets. A bit confusing, but I'll take it.

Wow. i don't get it. I consider myself a die-hard Mets fan, and I've never heard of either of these two.

For Castillo's solid bat, I'll take it.

Omar... how do you do it...

Red Sox might just have gotten Gagne for MDC!!

I still don't get it. Castillo is going to bring us 2 draft picks.... which will most likely be better than these kids we sent to the Twins. Why does Minnesota do this trade?

Gagne for who?? What? When??

Where'd you hear Gagne to the Red Sox?

sorry guys about the Gagne one. It got posted on SOSH and then pulled
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showtopic=21287

With the Braves getting Teixera/Dotel, I now see the Mets on the outside looking in come late September.

Its gona be sweet when the Mets sweep atlanta first series since acquiring Tex and Dotel. Show them who the real NL east powerhouse is.

Not having to do with either team, mine is about the red sox. They are on the verge of 3 straight years standing pat with what they have, I call it the sink or swim method. Wont they be again the joke of the league like they were last year? The bench needs seriosu upgrading, as currently constitued they wont last past the 1st round

And besides, pitcher per at bat has little to nothing to do with what I am talking about. I am talking about swinging at pitches where Reyes clearly has the base stolen easily. If he fouls off 10 pitches, then that would increase his p/pa, but it wouldnt have an effect on what I am talking about, not knowing when to take a strike to get a guy into scoring position.

wtf are you talking about? all latino team? you must be either stupid or blind :P and besides that there are teams that have like 2 or 3 latinos on them and latin people are complaining.

I'm far from either but explain the value of Franco, Mota and Valentin? Willie forced Omar to cut Franco in return for losing his batting coach .He already said he wants Paulino to replce LoDuca next year.
I agree with you there have been other franchises with their own biases. It's just the way it is .

"I'm far from either but explain the value of Franco, Mota and Valentin? Willie forced Omar to cut Franco in return for losing his batting coach .He already said he wants Paulino to replce LoDuca next year."

Yeah, umm you have been watching SNY too much. Lol. Willie doesnt have the authority to tell omar to do anything. At all. They may have spoke about it, but still, the day Willie tries to force Omar to do anything, bye bye Willie. Omar is far more important to this franchise then Willie is.

Good move by the Twins, get a couple of prospects, who may be moved for another bat, Piazza or something, even if not..

They are not conceding, move Punto into 2nd, and Buscher can play 3rd base now, he looks pretty good option to try, get Cuddyer back, and with that young pitching, they can make a run.

If anything, trading Castillo makes them better for this year.

For the Mets, i guess its the safer option, they didn't lose much, worth a go, it is that extra cover you want, had to do something with good moves by the Phillies and the Braves.