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Could Bonds Join Royals, Devil Rays?

Barry Bonds has a stated desire to win a World Series before his finishes his career.  That doesn't gel with the idea of joining a last-place team like the Royals or Devil Rays.  However, he may have to decide between non-contenders and retirement.


Last week when the Giants told Bonds he wasn't welcome in 2008, I analyzed the situations of the 14 American League teams' DH spots.  The Orioles, Royals, Angels, A's and Rangers seemed the most likely fits.  I didn't like the D-Rays for Bonds because they've already got all three outfield spots filled and have to find playing time for Jonny Gomes and Rocco Baldelli at DH.

However, Buster Olney is intrigued by the idea of Bonds in Tampa Bay.  In Olney's view, Bonds would basically split time at DH with Baldelli, pushing Gomes out of the starting picture (perhaps he'd be traded).  That's reasonable if the price is right.  But keep in mind John Shea's note, that Bonds wouldn't have gone to St. Petersburg had the Giants moved there in 1993.  Beggars can't be choosy though. 

Bob Dutton also wrote about the possibility of Bonds joining the Royals next year.  Dutton says the Royals have $30MM coming off the books.  Billy Butler could play maybe 120 games at first base and 40 at DH in '08.   The heart of this order could put up some runs, though you'd like to see some kind of offense coming out of left field or shortstop:

David DeJesus - CF
Mark Grudzielanek - 2B
Barry Bonds - DH
Billy Butler - 1B
Alex Gordon - 3B
Mark Teahen - RF
John Buck - C
Joey Gathright - LF
Tony Pena Jr. - SS


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I'd say the answer is no. For Bonds, a choice between non-contenders and retirement would end up being retirement. With that said, that doesn't mean that non-contenders who pretend that they are contenders (Rangers) won't be able to persuade him.

The A's still represent the best match, in my mind, though. Cust & Bonds can share DH & LF.

It would certainly add some pop to the lineup, and make the devil rays a competitor for a third or dare i say second place finish in the AL East. I doubt he will go there though, the man has accomplished alot but getting a world champion ring, im sure he will only want to go to a team with a legit chance, or atleast more likely. (Detriot, Chi Sox, Yankees, Angels, Padres etc etc) There is no certainty that ANY team will want to put up with his baggage at his age either

I'm becoming more interested to see what he goes for, rather then where he goes.

If he takes a 1yr/$10mm contract somewhere, it'd go a long way in showing how much he truly cares about a ring, as opposed to money. It would definitely give low market teams such as the Padres the ability to bring him onboard. Hell, maybe even the Braves would make a play and stick him in LF for 100 games. At that price, the Twins could consider bringing him in too as thei DH. If he really wants to go to a team needing a big bat for their WS push, he should take that contract.

If you take Bonds at his word (he wants to play left, won't take a pay cut and wants to play for a contender) then I have a hard time finding a match.

The salary alone cuts the number of teams to about 10-12. I have a hard time imaganing any NL would bring him in to play the outfield regardless of what John Dewan says. Oakland, Tampa, KC don't have the coin or atleast don't spend it. Texas & Baltimore aren't contendors and Bonds won't make them one. Boston has Big Papi. Toronto has the Big Skirt. The Yankees have a ton of DH candidates already. Maybe the Angels but I hear Scioscia wants nothing to do with him. Seattle maybe?

Why exactly has the National League been completely ruled out. Bonds may be a bit of an embarrassment in the field, but he can't be worse than Manny or Adam Dunn.

Why not the Cubs? They've been looking for corner outfielders since the beginning of time. Or the Dodgers, if they can unload Pierre somehow.

In my mind, any sort of Baldelli/Gomes DH platoon is 90% Gomes, 10% Baldelli.

While I'm not against signing bonds at all, what the Rays really need is a SS/2B combo that can field. This year's pitching staff was actually decent and next year's should be better. If they Rays can get Bonds AND a fielder or two, they'd be my surprise pick for the WC.

"but he can't be worse than Manny"

Manny's not that bad damn it.

"Buster Olney is intrigued by the idea of Bonds in Tampa Bay."

I think it would be awesome. Putting Bonds' .480 obp right into the middle of that lineup that collective is a middle of the pack, .336 would be fun to watch. The, and don't laugh, mentoring ability he could have on the young black superstars that Tampa Bay have would also be interesting to follow.

One of the funniest things I have seen on ESPN in probably the last 5 years or so was a play where a ball was hit to LF-CF gap in Boston. Manny was playing kind of shallow and just missed the ball as it passed him up. CFer gets the ball and quickly fires to 3rd in an attempt to catch the runner. Manny somehow showing extremely quick reflexes makes a pronominal stretch & leaps just enough to catch the ball thinking he’s the cut-off man ~ ESPNs reaction “No Manny…”. It was one of those things where you could have been having the worst day ever and just in a horrible mood overall but upon seeing it you still cant help but laugh out loud…


Anyway, there are some bad LFers out there and it’s not like Bonds even in his advanced age cant produce as well as a couple others. If you are secure enough in your pitching staff to keep a misplay every so often from creating a chain reaction of bad events then I say he is fine. His offensive production is still above what else is available.

SD seems to be a beautiful fit as long as the have Cameron or a similar fielding CF playing next to him...
LA is probably a good fit, but they cant stand Bonds and it would create a PR nightmare...
I actually think Mil could be in on Bonds to replace Jenkins…
The Mets could be in on Bonds as it would only be 1 year and would give them some flexibility in their working in of the kids…
Then you have the AL teams which as everyone has pointed out you find semi-matches and possibilities.

Shoot, I don’t even think my Indians are truly out of the picture. They could use a LFer with J.Michaels as the 4th OF/Platoon for him. CF with Sizemore makes up for a bunch of the fielding shortcomings… Pitching is rather solid… His personality is often times stated as being really good with most of his teammates and we know he wants to win which would make it better. Cleveland doesn’t have any ego-types for him to clash with (well Cliff Lee but he might not be around so…) The money wouldn’t be hindering because it would be only 1 year… And it would definitely help show the fans who have been a bit stand-offish that the team is serious about winning it all for multiple years again…

How about the play in Seattle I forget who it was maybe Beltre hit an inside the park home run, the ball bounces around off the fence in left center, a couple feet from where Manny is standing. Instead of picking up the ball and throwing it in he kinda tries to slap it back too coco crisp who is standing like 10 feet behind him, and when Crisp doesnt realize what happened, does Manny pick the ball up? Of course not, he just points to the spot on the ground where the ball is sitting and waits for Crisp to come pick it up himself. That was hilariousssss. I love Manny. The guy is just so funny.

But yeah I agree with what you are saying. Every where you look there are very bad left fielders. While Bonds may not be as quick as he used to, he still has the experience to be able to get to the spot where he knows the ball will be, and he will catch what he gets to.

I still think Barry should be a DH somewhere though, and maybe play the outfield in 40 games or something if he has to. I cant be the only one that see's the possibility of Arod and Barry switching teams next year, right? I mean it may not be likely, because SF might not want to spend that much on another guy that will be like a third of their payroll, but it is possible.

oh yeah, I agree that he probably should DH but if that isnt an option for your team I dont think it holds you back. You just have to expect that he wont be able to play but maybe 130G/370AB and wont play great D, but will mash the ball and put up an extreme OBP.

I mean he's a playoff teams dream. A guy no one wants to pitch to on your side in the most important games you play? I think the Giants would have been smart to sit down with Bonds before the deadline, tell him they werent going to re-sign him and ask if he was willing to be traded for the playoff push. They would have gotten good prospects in return instead of just losing him and the team he went to may have realized that his positive effects are worth whatever negative they may or may not have experienced. But thats a hindsight thing and pointless now...

Anyway, Nrmax, youre a Mets fan right? And you dont think it would be an overly bad thing for your Mets to sign him for 1YR do you? I think many NL clubs shouldnt be instantly discounted here; I feel this “he just can’t play in the NL” thing is pretty much a Media-Hyping because they dont like him but when it boils down to it we should probably see a pretty even split of NL/AL making serious offers...

I think Texas could be a possibility. They haven't been able to put a winner together for some time and perhaps at least Barry puts people in the seats. He should be good for a bunch of HR's in Tex. I just love the irony of him and Sammy ending up on the same team.

darkstar, honestly, even though it wont ever happen, sure I would take his bat in the lineup. Even if it mean sticking Alou in right field and living with crappy corner outfield defense, because honestly doesnt bonds in a good lineup easily produce more with his bat then he loses you with his glove/ range?

All things considered, I wouldnt complain having his bat inbetween Wright and Beltran, or Wright and Alou or whatever.

Reyes
Beltran
Bonds
Wright
Delgado
Alou
Gotay
Catcher.

That would be sickk. Any team with a good centerfielder could entertain having him play the OF.

Think about the oppurtunities he would give to other good hitters in a good lineup. Imagine him being protected by a Beltran, Vlad, Pronk, Fielder, type of hitter instead of Molina or Feliz or Durham.

Oh I hear ya man… I would actually even want him protecting Pronk. Here, for my Indians:

Sizemore
A.Cabrera
Hafner
Bonds
V.Mart
Garko
Peralta
Gutierrez
Blake/?

That would be a nightmare to get through… Only problem is Hafner & Bonds are Lefties so Martinez might need to bat between them ~ at which point I’m not too sure I know what I would do. Bonds as a 5 hitter with Garko protecting isn’t ideal, but would still be pretty sick…


Why do you think it will never happen with the Mets though? Their stumbling here at the end of the year to make it closer than they would like tells me they will probably do something dramatic to open the gap. Alou could always be moved in a worse case, shoot he could replace Bonds to give them atleast one respectable bat in that lineup. I’m not sure I would rule them out as a strong player…

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