Torre: A-Rod to Dodgers?

Instead of "gain nothing in draft picks"

I was going to check in on the same thing... In Tim's post from October about compensation
(www.mlbtraderumors.com/2007/10/more-on-free-ag.html)
he writes "I was reminded today that the first 15 picks in 2008's draft are protected. That means those 15 teams can sign Type A free agents (pretty much the best ones) and at worst only lose their second-round pick." What does he mean by "at worst," are their circumstances where they don't lose a second round pick for signing a Type A player who's been offered arbitration?

What is Joe Torre supposed to say? "Fat chance?" Of course the Dodgers are in the market for A-Rod. That was a non-statement as far as I'm concerned.

your right,cory. Let's face the facts. Ned Colletti hasn't made one smart signing or trade yet.
And Frank McCourt has signed off on every one of those stupid moves. ARod would be nice to have in LA. But at what price? The Dodgers don't need 1 "big bat". They need at least 2! And if the Dodgers can sign a big bat like Andruw Jones or Torri Hunter, they should trade for the other big bat. It makes more sense to spend the dough on two guys as opposed to spending it on one.
I still have no confidence in Ned Colleti though. He'll make the wrong moves.
He's probably gonna wait for all the decent free agents to come off the market, and then sign the leftovers. This is a good time for Ned to show he can be creative and spend money wisely. He must redeem himself for last season.

AROD in LA makes perfect sense, he can double date with the Beckhams. I mean if there was ever a baseball player who's nickname should be "Hollywood" it is AROD. Plus LA fans are the worst, absolute worst. I was in LA for a Dodger Vs. Giants game. All they did was boo Bonds all game, start fights with anyone in a Giants jersey. Hitting Beach Balls and doing the Wave 5 times around the stadium, when their team is down by one in 7th, to their supposed rivals... that was quickly followed by a mass exit... (They also showed up in the 3rd Inning) The Worst Fans in Baseball!

I am a Dodger fan. And yes, Bonatom is RIGHT! 100% RIGHT! I hate going to DOdger Stadium, because of the fans. Everyone is on their cell phone, or knocking around a beach ball. Dodger fans are blinded by their love more than any other fans. Nomar Garciaparra, as awful as he was this past season, gets disgusting amounts of cheers. And the fact that 3.8 million people went to Dodger Stadium last year to watch a fourth place team shows that the people don't care what kind of team is fielded. And it also shows that ownership is making money and spending it poorly ( Juan Pierre, new urinals)!!!!

Kinda makes you wish the Dodgers moved back to Brooklyn.

Think we should clarify what LA fans mean.

If you mean Dodger fans then yes, they are terrible.

However, if you go to Angels game the place is rocking. Angel fans are passionate about their team.

Maybe we should clarify where LA is. Anaheim, in Orange County, is where the Angels play. Chavez Ravine, in Los Angeles County, thats where the Dodgers play. I don't care what name you put in front of the Angels, that ain't LA.

Ok, WTF is going on.... Bonatom I dont know who the hell you think you are or what gibes you the right to judge a fan base due to your single experience. I have been a Dodger fan since I was young and have never arrived late or left early. I guess all fans walked in at the 3rd inning and left at the seventh, not just some.
As far as LA fans being the worst in baseball, go to an Oakland Raiders games and see what happens. Granted Dodger stadium is rowdy but it does not apply to every fan. I guess hitting beach balls and doing the wave makes you a bad fan, and none of that happens at any other stadium.
I am sure I could drop down to your guy's level and bash on your teams, but I wont categorize you guys with certain stereotypes of your city or fan base.
I am as passionate as all of you guys are if not more, so I take offense when you say things like "the worst fans in baseball", you are attacking something I take very personal. Attack the arguement (Torre and A-Rod) not the people.

"A-Rod could kiss Toree's ass in LA. I can care less they are both idiots. Thank god Toree left the yankees the guy just sits their and expects two pitchers to pitch the whole game"

Yeah, all he did was manage u for 12 years and makes the playoffs in every season. Win 4 world series. All A-rod did was singlehandedly get u to the postseason this year when you would have been done in june without him. I guess this is one of the delusional yankee fans who thinks they can replace anybody no matter what, because they are the yankees. Your talking about the way that Torre handled a pitching staff? Well good luck with Girardi. Lets see what is up with the last pitching staff he managed.

Scott Olsen- Flat out lousy after a very nice rookie debut in 06.

John Johnson. Porbably will never be the same after being overworked in 06 and will now wiss al of 08 ( or most of it) on top of 07.

Anibal Sanchez- Missed entire 07 season

Ricky Nolasco- missed entire 07 season.

Have fun with Girardi abusing Hughes and Joba like he did to the marlins. Yankee fans dont realize what they lost in Torre, or atleast the stupid ones like yanksfan1. I get the idea he wasnt even born when the yankees last sucked. He probably is used to postseasons and division titles every year. Guess what Yanksfan. The Yankees were a mess where absolutely nobody wanted to play until Joe Torre got there. Guys love playing for Joe Torre. Not Joe Girardi, and that was Torre's greatest value to the yankees. The ability to manage a bunch of superstar egos and get along with them all and keep them all happy. You cant take that for granted. The times that a manager actually influences the outcome of a game with his managerial skills are minimal IMO. Your guys have to get the job done for you. Sounds like a bunch of sour grapes to me though.

Bleedsblue, if you are sucha passionate fan who has never once been even 1 pitch late to a game, then it should annoy you that you are surrounded by a bunch of idiots who hit beach balls onto the field like idiots. Go to the beach to play with a beach ball. ANd btw, its a nationwide thing, making fun of dogdger fans and they habits of leaving early and hitting beach balls. Not just bonatom. Take a chill pill my friend. Deep breaths.

Wooooooooooooooooooo-sah

Amen BleedsBlue55

nrmax, the Yankees didn't change under Torre. They changed when Showalter came in. The Stump Merril days were pretty bad, but the Yankees started playing well and becoming attractive with Buck. When Torre came in, they were already a playoff team.

And comparing Torre's first year to Showalter's last year, you replaced a declining Mattingly with Tino Martinez at his peak, added Jeter, had the first full season of Mariano Rivera in the bullpen. That was a much better team than the previous year, so you would expect better results.

I maybe off base but I dont think too many fans bolted to the Angels because Moreno slapped the "Los Angeles" label on them. People who live in LA don't drive down to Anaheim to see the Angels. Dodgers fans have always showed up and droves and will continue to, regardless of what the Angels do.

LOL....Such sour grapes here.

Calling LA fans "bandwagon fans" is laughable. They draw some of the highest attendance figures in all of MLB, despite having fielded a slightly above mediocre product. Are LA fans dispassionate? I'd have to agree with this to some extent.

I'd like to see some backup information to the claim that one of the posters here made saying that the Dodgers couldn't afford Arod. With Gonzo, Wolf, and some of the rentals coming off the books, I believe McCourt wouldn't have to increase the payroll at extroardinary amount at all, thanks to the bevy of youth on the team. Now, McCourt might run into problems in the out years, when your Loney's and Billingsley's get a few years under their belts and will, inevitably, be asking for bigger money.

To outsiders, Southern California fans look apathetic, but they love sports team and support them thick and thin. The problem with LA is traffic, and everyone knows that Dodger Stadium will have a huge back up in the off ramps during game day, which one reason people seem to arrive during the third inning. If the game looks like a blow out, people want to get a jump getting out of the parking lot, and hopefully on the freeway before everyone else.

One thing that always perplex me, is that Mike Scioscia lives in Thousand Oaks, but commutes the 70-75 miles to Anaheim, through some of the worst traffic congestion on this planet.

Another don't be put off by the attitude at Dodger Stadium. Dodger Stadium is one of the best places in MLB to watch a baseball game, it is dry, mostly cool with an occasional hear scorcher, and the stadium will last as long as Fenway or Wrigley. A midge problem at the pitcher's mound is the least of a concern at Dodger Stadium. I like watching a game much better at Dodger Stadium than at Anaheim Stadium, even though I like Angels better as a ball club, given it full of former Dodgers like Scioscia and Hatcher who got kicked out during the Murdoch era.

Oh yeah, and I can't stand attending Angels games. When you look around, it's like a nursing home. Crazy old people who are cheering but don't seem to know what they are cheering for.

In regards to dissing the dodgers so hard for 2007, "a fourth place team" etc...You have to remember coming into 2007 we looked really good, had the best record in MLB around the 1/2 of the season, the reason we failed was lack of 1) communication - managers fault and 2) lack of leadership - manager/leader? fault.

Torre will help that area alot, time to buy talent and ride the youngsters this year.