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The Yankees' rotation currently consists of Chien-Ming Wang, Andy Pettitte, Joba Chamberlain, Phil Hughes, and Ian Kennedy. That leaves both Mike Mussina (owed $11MM in '08, no-trade protection) and Kei Igawa (owed $16MM over 2008-11) without starting jobs. It wouldn't be a bad move to just keep the depth, if you consider it depth. After all, the three kids aren't going to combine for 600 innings. But Mussina and Igawa might be available.
Bob Matthews of the Times-Union Democrat and Chronicle (yes we're really digging for rumors) notes today that the Phillies have "mild interest" in Mussina. The 39 year-old Pennsylvania native may not want to leave New York, but it might not be a bad career move. He's got 250 wins; 300 would be a grind. 280 seems within reach though. What could the Phils offer the Yanks for Mussina? $11MM off their books and some kind of low-level prospect, I'd imagine.
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Mike Mussina has a no-trade under the 10-5 rule.
Posted by: Oliver Wine | December 10, 2007 at 04:36 PM
Mentioned his no-trade in the first paragraph...
Posted by: Tim Dierkes | December 10, 2007 at 04:41 PM
Sorry I read it as not having trade protection. My mistake.
Posted by: owine | December 10, 2007 at 04:43 PM
Heard through the grapevine that he'd waive it to go to the Phils only-b/c of it being close to his home.
Posted by: Bedrosian's Beard | December 10, 2007 at 04:54 PM
Additionally, I don't see the Phils paying all his salary. They're cheap bastards and he may not be worth it anyway.
Posted by: Bedrosian's Beard | December 10, 2007 at 04:56 PM
They may take the salary, esp. if the yanks take Eaton or Helms of ftheir Hands...or pay SOME of teh dough.
Maybe we could send them CJ Henry back..
Posted by: steveh | December 10, 2007 at 04:58 PM
come on Royals. trade for Igawa. traaaade for Igawa!
Posted by: bobhamelin | December 10, 2007 at 05:14 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Mussina outpitched 4/5 of the Phillies' rotation next year. I think he'd be a very strong addition...obviously you run a risk with a 39-year-old, but everyone in the Phils rotation is a roll of the dice anyway.
Posted by: ae | December 10, 2007 at 05:20 PM
As long as we don't give up too much...I wouldnt mind Mussina in the 5th spot. A dozen baseballs is better than Eaton.
Hamels, Meyers, Kendrick, Moyer and Mussina is not too shabby. Need a couple of insurance options with injury risks.
Posted by: Booby17 | December 10, 2007 at 05:21 PM
"Maybe we could send them CJ Henry back.."
he's already back with the Yankees, they signed him to a minor league contract a few weeks ago.
Posted by: | December 10, 2007 at 05:28 PM
seriously, Mussina is not a 5 in Philly's rotation. I would certainly put him above Kendrick and Moyer.
Posted by: ae | December 10, 2007 at 05:30 PM
How about a Mussina-Gordon swap?
Posted by: moebarguy | December 10, 2007 at 05:41 PM
Yanks NEED to keep Mussina. 3 "rookies" cannot be expected to carry a rotation throughout the whole season.
Posted by: Chillin | December 10, 2007 at 05:46 PM
Yankees could use a first baseman.
How about Mussina + Melky for Ryan Howard?
Posted by: tyler | December 10, 2007 at 06:16 PM
Good idea the Phillies should trade their best player for an old washed up pitcher and a prospect who hasn't proved much yet
Posted by: Phils1Phan | December 10, 2007 at 06:27 PM
First the Yankees do not need another 1b/DH option. Already have Giambi, Betemit, Duncan, Miranda, and if worst comes to worst the other Duncan. You add to the fact Matsui is going to see a lot of DH time and there has been talk in the past that Matsui would try to learn 1b if the yanks wanted. Second the Phillies would never send Howard to us for a crappy package of Moose+Melky (just not nearly enough). Third the Yankees do not need another Left power bat, who K's way too much b/c he swings for the fence, and has suspect defense. Lastly the yankees would be sending Moose to cut payroll which Howard would not do, it would also leave a void at CF where Damon is not able to play full time anymore.
Posted by: sirfreshness | December 10, 2007 at 06:30 PM
maybe moose for rhp JA Happ or OF Dominic Brown.. both midlevel prospects ..maybe if the yanks eat some of his salary.
Posted by: TheHall | December 10, 2007 at 06:32 PM
Mussina and Cabrera for Ryan Howard is a joke anyways. The Yankees will cut Derek Jeter before that deal happens. For Howard, Phil Hughes would be the centerpiece of any deal.
At this point a Mussina trade will be nothing more than a salary dump.
Posted by: | December 10, 2007 at 06:37 PM
The only place I see Mussina agreeing to go is back to Baltimore for a farewell tour. Maybe the Yankees can upgrade their bullpen and improve their team chemistry by sending both Krazy Kyle Farnsworth and Mussina to the Orioles for a bag of balls and some salary relief. Unfortunately I don't see either going anywhere.
Posted by: wolfshadow | December 10, 2007 at 06:44 PM
Why was there even a comment on the ridiculous comment of Ryan Howard for Melky and Moose? Yea the Phils are gonna trade an NL MVP for an aged starter and a prospect. Good baseball knowledge.
Posted by: Booby17 | December 10, 2007 at 06:59 PM
Can nobody else see that offer was meant as a joke?
Posted by: Franky | December 10, 2007 at 07:31 PM
Long term Ryan Howard cannot play first base. They have no desire to offer him a long-term contract. Watch for a dump ala Cabrera in 2010 of Ryan Howard.
An AL team will give up pretty much everything to get him.
I'd be willing to do Mussina, Farnsworth and a Prospect(AA or Higher) for Helms, where the phils take 80% of the salary.
I think Having Moyer and Mussina would be allright. They both grew up in the area and are of similar age. They probably know one another as is. Plus i'd like them to round out the pen with some young guys they see as possible starters so we can have the Philadelphia Phillies Pitching Camp hosted by Jamie Moyer and Mike Mussina.
Also, when moyer retires: Fire Dubee, Higher Jamie.
Posted by: tmichalski | December 10, 2007 at 07:44 PM
BORING
Posted by: metsfan4life | December 10, 2007 at 08:09 PM
WHO CARES
I WANT SOMETHING BIG TO HAPPEN ALREADY!
SERIOUSLY CAN ONE OF THE ACES JUST GET TRADED!
SANTANA, BEDARD, HAREN WHO EVER!
Posted by: metsfan4life | December 10, 2007 at 08:11 PM
Tmichalski, no desire to offer him a long term contract? I could be wrong but I am pretty sure they just opened up negotiations with his agent to buy out years of arbitration and offer him long term. Agreed he is a liability at first base but his bat more than makes up for it.
Posted by: Booby17 | December 10, 2007 at 08:29 PM
If the Phils give the Yanks back Matt Smith and take on 80% of Moose's salary, that should be enough!
A reversal of the Abreu deal that could revitalize Moose, free up Yankees payroll, and help the Phils beat the Mets again. I like it.
Posted by: DougMash | December 10, 2007 at 08:32 PM
Igawa for Dempster or Marquis? Any thoughts (other than "Damn other crazed Cubs fan!)...
Posted by: | December 10, 2007 at 09:42 PM
never gona happen
end of story
Posted by: dan | December 10, 2007 at 10:04 PM
i doubt either Mussina or Matsui will get traded. like the op said, 3 rooks cant be counted on for 600 innings. they need Moose ans the 6th starter/longman. they're gonna NEED Matsui to DH when Giambi gets hurt (hopefully in spring training lol).
Posted by: maximumpotential | December 10, 2007 at 10:13 PM
think the yanks would send Britton or Bruney to CIN for Guardado?
Posted by: maximumpotential | December 10, 2007 at 10:14 PM
Hey metsfan4life, what do you care your team is not getting any of them. What I want the yankees to do is keep mussina trade Igawa for any shitty player. Also dump Farnsworth, all he does is waste money and make the bullpen worse.
Posted by: | December 11, 2007 at 07:14 AM
Mussina for Helms? Hell I'll throw in Clay Condrey.
The Yankees do have a need for a righty bat at first having DFA'ed Phillips and with Duncan's serious health concerns.
If there was a way to get the now expendable Wilson Betemit back in that package, I'd like it. Maybe a couple prospects and Phils eat all the Moose's salary
Posted by: wayne gomes | December 11, 2007 at 09:36 AM
Trade Mussina to the O's. Angelos is a complete retard and could be easily talked into it.
Posted by: toshiro | December 11, 2007 at 12:04 PM