Santana/Reyes/Haren Rumor Quashed

Thinking about how difficult the Johan moves have been so far...

This is just way to complicated to get done.

WOW.... Please, get Johan out of the AL.... :)

That would give the NL East to the Mets. Who would they start at SS.

Nonsense.

ya like Mr Truman said, this is a far to difficult trade for the Twins to work out. They clearly cant work with 1 team nevermind a 3 way deal.

I call shenanigans.

Though it'd be fun to see.

Wow.. wow. Don't see the point of the Mets getting Dan Johnson, but if they land Johan and Crosby then it's well worth taking an extra low batting average 1B.

I agree there just isn't enough in it for MN if they do it, they get nobody to fill the void at SS an CF

sounds like a crazy a$$ rumor and thats about it

This one makes my brain hurt for at least a couple reasons: 1) who even thought of this? I need a flowchart just to understand it all. 2) Why would the Twins bother with Haren, when they could net several prospects and prepare for '09 and '10? They don't have a shot against the Tigers anymore, and they never had a shot at the Indians, Haren or not.

I think the A's would need a bit better deal. Possibly a low level prospect from the Twins.

it was Cano or Hughes not both in the same deal...and it was mainly jsut Hughes

that would be insane but yeah if the twins want Reyes that bad then why is it that he ends up on the A's?

I as a Mets fan, would do this... to answer someone's question, the Mets would probably sign David Eckstein as their SS...

but the Twins have wanted Reyes themselves, why would they agree to a trade that sends Reyes to another AL team? They would need more prospects then Pellot, and would need more than two players all together...

this is a steal for the mets... two players for johan? PIPE DREAM

I don't see this one happening. I suspect the the Twins realize that they aren't getting enough.

There is no way the Twins could accept this trade it really does not help the team out in the future with young players in positions that are needed. Unless they planned to turn around and trade Haren off for those other players.

The Twins can't get one team to deal with them so why not get three? This trade makes little to no sense now if the Twins get Haren and Gomez to play center i could imagine it being more fair.

ya i dont see this happening either lol...gezz Tim u thought 297 posts or watever was yesterday ..just wait till the day is over for this post ...

Yeah, the offer from the Sox and the Yanks was better for Min...

why would the twins care to do a 3 team trade when they can be selfish and get 4-5 players for one guy? this stinks, especially after the twins organization said they arent close to anything yet

I think this deal makes a lot of sense. For the Mets, they get the Ace that they've been looking for, the A's get a stud SS Reyes, and the Twins get affordable Haren to replace Johan. Having Dan Haren & Lirano wouldn't be too shabby. I believe this blockbuster deal (if true) would make a lot of sense for all parties involved.

Well, that's one way to get Jose Reyes to improve his walk-rate and plate discipline, by sending him to Oakland.

The wild card in this trade in Crosby. If he can actually get himself healthy and return to the kind of form that was expected of him when he came up, the deal is potentially HUGE for the Mets, despite giving up Reyes.

Johnson is a low-cost alternative to Delgado, who's just about done.

I'd be surprised if Minnesota would be happy to get essentially "just" Haren, while serving as the facilitator between Oakland and New York. Seems like their bounty should be higher for such a role. Reyes and Santana moving through them is a swap of two of the potentially-best players of their generation at their respective positions.

Is this one actually serious? How long are the legs on this rumour? Curious to see how it fleshes out.

marvel is getting screwed on the spiderman trade lol

Total rip-off for the twins

Also...

Why wouldn't the Mets just trade Reyes + prospects for Santana + Brandon Harris (The Rays prospect sent over).

Why bother getting Beane involved?

If the Mets added Gomez to Minnesota and Humber to Oakland somehow...or something.

I don't see Minnesota going for this...they definitely need more or they should take the Sox offer or Hughes. Haren would not be as successful pitching in the Homerdome against Det, Cle and Chicago and w/out knowing much about him other then the #'s...Pellet looks like he is about 4 years away

@ Ignignokt1

Haren an oft-injured pitcher? You must be thinking of Rich Harden... not Dan Haren.

The twins sending Santana for an elite pitcher with 3 years left for cheap as he enters his prime seems like enough in return. The A's get their answer at SS and get to rid themselves of Crosby and Johnson while getting a good pitching prospect to boot. The Mets get the best pitcher in baseball + a replacement SS and a pinch hitter/backup 1B. Seems fair on all side to me.

I think the main problem here is that it implies the Twins would want Haren over Reyes which seems quite unlikely. I would also be skeptical Beane would value Reyes as high as other GMs.

Wow, I'd cry if Reyes was gone but we'd get back Santana and Dan Johnson and Crosby.. they could be shopped elsewhere? to the O's with Pelfrey, Humber and maybe another younger kid for Bedard/Tejada? :D I'd even throw in Maine if absolutely needed, or Heilman

the twins better stop trying to test the sox patients, one of these times after all these attempts to raise the price they might walk away because it shows they really arent serious about a trade unless its for john henrys (sox owner) first born son

dude, marvel makes oout way better on that one, no way DC does that

As that is structured in the rumor, the A's would be giving up too much for too little in return. They deal their ace and an all star caliber SS for an all star SS and a minor prospect?

There might be truth to that rumor but I think it's not quite as discussed here yet.

How ironic that this deal - clearly invented by a NEW YORK writer while playing MLB: The Show 2007 on Playstation 3 - works out best for the Mets?

are you high, jimmie? for Spiderman, Marvel better get at least Superman from DC or no deal

who's Spidey's agent? Scott Boras?

@gobosox

go watch haren pitch....

Tim

This will be the most commented on post you will ever have.

the fact that this writer that put this trade out is from new york makes alot of sense. its new yorks way of raising the price for the sox without having to be involved themselves, pretty genious, to bad the deal sucked, it might have worked, had me going at first

The Twins are not just trying to raise the price for the Red Sox. They don't like the Sox offer and are therefore seeing if they can get a better one somewhere else.

@jclay

his numbers do not justify calling him an elite pitcher.He had 1 very good year, albeit in a pitchers haven. You're too quick to give him elite status.

If the Twins wouldn't trade Santana for Hughes + Cabrera + 1 then there is no WAY they'd do this. Hughes is more valuable to them then Haren at his point and Cabrera (and probably the +1) would both individually be worth more then Pellot. I also think the A's would be getting screwed here. Not surprised that this comes from a NY sportswriter.

Minaya is not going to give up Reyes. Might as well put Dave Wright in the rumor as well.

However, there hasn't been any movement with the Red Sox/Minnesota deal, so anything could be possible.

levelboss:

lol, that must be it, except boras must be lanterns agent, since he is the lesser player and asking for alot more then he could ever get unless he was boras client

This sounds like an awful deal for the Twins, unless somehow Reyes is coming their way I don't see this happening. Or at least getting Haren and Carlos Gomez, but there has to be something more than just getting Haren in exchange for Santana

I do not know If I like this deal if I am the Mets.
giving up a core member of your team and one of your franchise players? Mulvey is a great prospect the one all the GMs want. I do not think Crosby has much value (injuries and an over inflated contract). Dan Johnson is mediocore at best.
Remeber it is not aquestion of replacing just a Short Stop here if Reyes is traded. It is replacing a dominate lead-off man and a team spark plug.

I don't even know what to think. I can't see the Twins doing this unless they plan on flipping Haren somehow. They do not fill any of the holes they have with this trade. Give the Twins a CF, SS, or 3B in addition and then it would make some sense.

Either way you look at it, Dark horse wins anyway. Just eliminate them and DC/Marvel can work something out between the two of them. This third team thing always fouls it up for someone else.

People, please stop saying that you "would definitely take Hughes + co. or Cano + co."

Those deals are, according to many sources, off the table. I'm not saying that this is their best deal, but the Yankees deals are DEAD and the Sox talks are dying.

FWIW, I don't think this is the deal. I could see:

Jose Reyes + Mulvey to A's

Johan and Crosby to Mets

Haren + Johnson + Pellot to Twins.

As a Phillies fan, all I have to say is "Holy crap."

this post is going to get out of control....

@doktoruber

How the hell are the a's getting the best return here?