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A's Not Interested In Pierre
11:50am: Slusser says A's sources are thoroughly denying this rumor. It was fun while it lasted! She is also skeptical of the Mark Ellis rumblings.
8:01am: There's a headline I didn't expect to write, given that the Dodgers' Juan Pierre comes with a $36.5MM commitment over the next four years. Susan Slusser reports that the Athletics have inquired on him, proof that they may be looking to acquire a veteran center fielder.
It doesn't make a whole lot of sense on the surface. Either the A's would want the Dodgers to absorb a significant portion of the money, or they'd like to pass back their own questionable contract. Front row center would be Eric Chavez, owed $37MM over the next three seasons. Chavez's ten and five no-trade rights haven't kicked in yet, and the Dodgers aren't among the teams on his current limited clause. The oft-injured Chavez isn't expected to be ready for Opening Day.
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well, atleast i know where crisp is going now. if they actually called the dodgers and muttered Pierres name, theres no way in doubting they will call the sox about crisp.
Posted by: 04Forever | March 04, 2008 at 08:42 AM
Must be that they like Laroche...I imagine they would get Laroche somehow with Pierre for Chavez?
I imagine Coco would be of more interest to Oakland...I would like to get Blevins if possible. Also think if the O's somehow get Pie from Chicago in the Roberts deal that may be a landing spot for Coco...
Posted by: Jared78 | March 04, 2008 at 09:14 AM
That really makes no sense. Even a trade of "bad contracts" doesn't make sense for either team.
Hopefully it's just a ruse to get Theo to lower his asking price about Crisp.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | March 04, 2008 at 09:39 AM
This is my worst nightmare come true.
Somehow Blanton to Reds goes quiet and this one starts up.
If they can get LaRoche and cash with Pierre then sure fire away, but just Pierre for Chavez no way. I'd rather have nobody at CF then Pierre.
Posted by: OaklandAussie | March 04, 2008 at 09:39 AM
Juan-For-Four is the complete anti-Moneyball player, what with his high contract and aversion to walk-taking. This makes no sense.
Posted by: CubsAddictMG | March 04, 2008 at 09:45 AM
Moneyball isn't about walks. It's about finding under valued players and stats. OBP was vastly undervalued for a while, but now a lot of teams look into it (Red Sox for example). But Pierre is the anti-Moneyball because he is vastly overvalued (or at least was at the time of the signing). Just wanted to clear that point up.
Posted by: Victor | March 04, 2008 at 10:03 AM
I was trying to think of what Pierre does that could be undervalued...run fast? Show up to work every day?
Posted by: Tim Dierkes | March 04, 2008 at 10:05 AM
Suck at baseball?
Posted by: stellar | March 04, 2008 at 10:13 AM
this doesnt make sense at all, pierre larger contract even if they took back chavez, overpaid for the next 4 yrs when A's will have gonzalez/buck/sweeney etc ready. i'd rather take on crisp who signed at a more reasonable price. unless dodgers paid ALL of pierre's contract + larocche/prospects i may ocnsider, but pierre almost has negative value right now
Posted by: arly2380 | March 04, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Urghh I refuse to believe the A's would seriously entertain this, unless they were getting someone like LaRoche. Pierre is terrible and terribly overpaid.
Posted by: DeJay | March 04, 2008 at 10:52 AM
Absolutly no sense for the A's. Denorfia can fill in long enough till Carlos Gonzalez is ready, and he can fill in long enough for Aaron Cunningham or Jermaine Mitchell.
Pierre can't hit, can't play defense, can't get on base... the only thing he can do is run, and thats the one place the A's don't exploit.
Posted by: Zonis | March 04, 2008 at 11:47 AM
Suddenly something feels less chaotic in the universe.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | March 04, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Wow. That would never happen!
Posted by: green_and_gold | March 04, 2008 at 12:32 PM
The only way that could have happened is if it was some sort of reverse fleece like Chavez + Blanton for Pierre + Laroche + Kuo and/or Hu .
THAT could have happened . espically when Ned Colletti is incharge :P
Posted by: Yu Hsing Chen | March 04, 2008 at 01:05 PM
I find this whole arbitration nonsense somewhat discouraging; these guys just need to shut up and accept what they're getting paid.
I'm not saying they need to quit crying because they're making enough money as is (after all, they're baseball players so it would be foolish to compare them to a blue collar industrial worker or something), I'm just saying they need to understand this is how the system works.
If players keep complaining about salaries like this, its going to threaten the integrity of the system. Its just going to make young players less valuable, and it's going to make it even harder for the small market teams to compete. I think the system thats in place right now is very effective for allowing smaller teams to have a shot (with competent management, of course).
Posted by: google_bought | March 04, 2008 at 01:36 PM
Juan Pierre is anti-Moneyball. This makes no sense on so many levels it's ridiculous. Billy Beane would never ever even entertain the idea of getting a low OBP guy for what he's making.
Posted by: Aron | March 04, 2008 at 02:02 PM
A's want a veteran CF? Can I interest you in a Dave Roberts or a Randy Win Billy Beane?
Posted by: YaSquare | March 04, 2008 at 02:48 PM
I say this trade needs to be made. All you Juan Pierre haters need to be silenced. Gives us Chavez (remain silent) and let Pierre bat lead off and play a dazzling CF for ya (hint of sarcasm). But seriously, Billy needs to offer and Colletti needs to accept or vice versa.
Posted by: Bear0930pg | March 04, 2008 at 06:15 PM
How about Slusser's late comment about Dan Johnson. I don't understand the silence on D-Jack this offseason. Sure, he's not a marquee player, but despite his ups and downs he's very serviceable, and how many teams out there couldn't use a decent LHB 1B/DH type? Yet there's no discussion.
Posted by: asm | March 16, 2008 at 04:39 PM