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Jays Release Reed Johnson

SUNDAY: According to the Toronto Star, the Jays have released Reed Johnson.  The Jays have to pay $546K of his $3.275MM salary.  Not a huge deal, but non-tendering him several months ago would've been better.  Joel Sherman describes the Mets' interest in Johnson as "mild at best."

SATURDAY: The Globe and Mail's Jeff Blair refers to "scuttlebutt among scouts" about the Jays placing outfielder Reed Johnson on waivers.  However, J.P. Ricciardi said this was not true.  The Toronto GM said a choice is close regarding Johnson and Shannon Stewart, and both won't make the team.  The Mets might be a match for Johnson.

I'm surprised by the way the Jays have gone about things in left field this year.  They brought back Matt Stairs, who can pretty much only play left since Frank Thomas and Lyle Overbay own the DH and first base spots.  They've got a seemingly Major League ready (and cheap) outfielder in Adam Lind.  They decided to tender a contract to Johnson, something I did not expect.  And then they signed Shannon Stewart on top of it all.  What are the Jays going to do with all these guys? 


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I think everyone's pretty surprised with how the Jays dealt with LF this year. I think it's just a position filled with questions.

Will Matt Stairs duplicate 2007?
Is he durable enough at 40 to last the season?
Would Reed Johnson recover?

Stewart was the first choice. If he had accepted the deal the Jays initially offered, Johnson would have been non-tendered. I'm a Johnson fan, but I do understand that if Stairs can't repeat 2007 or can't stay healthy... Stewart is a better option there than Johnson.

I think Lind is more of an option than any of them though. He's at least average defensively, with a good arm. And he hits for average and for power... I know he had a rough 2007, but the kid has hit at every level. He'll hit in the majors, I'm sure.

I think that this whole "competition for LF" thing will be irrelevant in a few months... If anyone stumbles and Lind does what he normally does in AAA, he'll be in LF. He better be.

I wouldn't be surprised if Johnson was on waivers though (JP isn't exactly honest with the media), but I do find it strange that they would do it before they absolutely need to.

I don't know what the Jays will do with all the guys, but I do know that J.P. Ricciardi will lie about it.

The Stairs deal made sense as insurance for Overbay and Hurt, as well as a good lefty bat off the bench. It does, however, block Lind, which leads me to believe that Lind isn't in the Jays' long-term plans. If the Jays are serious about signing Rios long-term, then the outfield until 2012 or so will be Wells, Rios, and Travis Snider. Overbay has a long-term deal too, so I don't see Lind moving in there any time soon.

To me, the solution is simple: Trade Lind. Given his potential to be a solid lefty bat and his cheap price, he's the kind of player a team like the A's, Reds or Mets could be interested in. He's also the only guy, short of Rios, who could maybe be packaged to get us some sort of reasonable end-of-the-rotation starter, which we now need on a count of Janssen's labrum.

I would hate to give up on Lind's potential, but if he was really in the Jays' plans, we wouldn't have three stopgaps on salary. His value will also be fairly high now, which could be jeopardized by below-expectation performance in Syracuse or Toronto.

I just hope if Johnson is lost that he isn't just let go on waivers for nothing.

Even if we trade him to Chicago for the rights to send Randy Wells down to the minors that would be at least something.

If he gets traded to Oakland ! Riccardi's best buddy, which i would love, it would help to settle their centerfield question, which would be awesome, regardless of what they get back

Trade Lind ??? I would much rather trade Stairs. There's no way he'll produce like last year unless he's DH'ing all the time. And when i say trade, i also mean it be find just to DFA him.

Even if they decide to trade Johnson/Stairs/or Lind, what would they want in return. There really is not a starter that would be traded for anyone of those three, but i guess maybe an infielder or prospects.

"I don't know what the Jays will do with all the guys, but I do know that J.P. Ricciardi will lie about it."

Damn. I was going to make a joke about the same thing. You stole my line Largedavid.

Trade Stairs? Nobody would give anything up for Stairs. As for Johnson, I don't know if MLBTR is an accurate reflection of prevailing opinion among actual MLB front offices, but I've developed a mini-obsession with how often his name comes up in discussions on this site about 4th OF openings. If he hasn't already been dealt, it seems unlikely to me that he would be.

Relax, I'm sure the Jays will have enough injuries for things to take of themselves. Regardless, if Adam Lind tears up AAA in April and May, room will made for him, Matt Stairs is definitely tradeable, though you won't get much of anything for him. Ditto Stewart. Reed Johnson is less tradeable because of the 3 million + owed him, which is why he might be released. I'd hate to see him go though. Stewart is a disaster out there in LF and can't play any other outfield positions. Ideally, you want your 4th OF to be capable of playing every outfield position.

I think Stairs will have a good year, but he's D will still not be good.

Lind is still in the plans, but maybe not for this year, or if they get injured (Stewart is just a big a risk of this as Reed). I think offensively Stewart and Reed are pretty similar, but Reed is better defensively. Don't trade Lind while his value is down: worst case, you move him to 1b, and trade Overbay's reasonable contract if he has a good year. I think I'd most want Lind out there but the reason he isn't is they don't want to take chances. And a Lind-Stairs platoon wouldn't work, because Stairs is poor defensively, and would have no other use. Ultimately I'd go with Reed and Lind, but whatever.

You can't get rid of Stairs! He's the token Canadian!


Maybe I'm missing something, but doesn't this guy match up perfectly with the Cubs need of a decent 4th outfielder/insurance for Pie who hits right handed? If he's available, I'd like to see the Cubs go after him. Wouldn't take much would it?

Ok so he wasn't on waivers... he was released outright.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him wind up a Met.

Reed Johnson was released today, you can go see it on bluejays.com I'm surprised to see him released and not traded? Also I'm surprised that they didn't keep Johnson in case Stewart doesn't produce in LF.

Sorry to post 2 in a row but I forgot to add, do you think we could of traded Johnson and some minor leaguers to Oakland for Rich Harden? Since J.P has good connections there and they in re-build mode according to Billy Beane. So if they were willing to trade Haren and Swisher for minor leaguers I don't see why we couldn't make up a deal for Harden, it would be a good solution for a 5th rotation guy or a replacement guy for Burnett (if he leaves).

No way I see the A's being interested in something like that, unless they essentially give away Johnson for next to nothing, they're looking for players who have yet to crack the Major Leagues. Not someone who's gotten a ton of service time already like Johnson.

As for the link you posted Tim, it seems that was in regards to the idea of TRADEing for Johnson. As they make no mention of his release and speculate that the Mets aren't willing to give up quality chips now that they might need for a deal in July. I would think they would become much more interested when the only compensation is money now.

Does Johnson play a decent CF? If he does, he can fit with the Cubs as Pie's RH caddy.

Johnson hasn't started more then 11 Games in CF since 2004 and his range is well below average out there. I doubt he'd fit the Cubs plans.

Maybe the Padres will take a flyer at him, although I doubt it. The Litter Box is where scrubby OFs have gone lately (think Jose Cruz Jr, Scott Hairston).

If his range is below average out there than forget it. The Cubs have a staff full of flyball pitchers, we can't afford someone in CF who can't cover ground.

Booo, what an awful mood. You are looking for a LF who is mostly going to get LHP ABs, and Johnson who is good defensively and has hit well over .300 against LHP the last two years, you release him.


Jays Believer 92,93 DO YOU REALLY THINK JOHNSON HAS ANY VALUE CONSIDERING HE WAS RELEASED, WHY WOULD OAKLAND GIVE ANYTHING FOR HIM?

With a salary at over $3M it figured that the Jays would have a hard time trading Johnson.

The Blue Jays did Johnson a favor, releasing him early with a $500,000 payout, and now someone will snatch him up real quick, probably at a salary of around $900,000.

Johnson is a gamer, rock solid defensively and can contribute offensively. He'll be a bargain for any team looking for an outfielder.

As for the Jays, Shannon Stewart now gets many starts in left field where he will be a liability on defense but he's a better hitter

Would be nice if the Jays could now dump Frank Thomas, who I think has a clause in his contract that says he doesn't have to start producing until the team is eliminated from the playoffs. Big fat slow Frank Thomas - hopefully the Jays don't give him enough at-bats to saddle the team with a $10M contract in '09

For those commenting on Johnson not playing much CF in his time with the Jays, it's not because he's unable to play there. It's because the Jays already have a Gold Glover in centre that doesn't exactly get much time off. And when he does... Rios plays CF. The Jays had three CF, so Johnson was predominantly in LF. He can still play it well.

Cubs need a cheap right handed hitting CF who can lead off...

Juiced

I think Johnson could just be a throw in along with other prospects for Harden.

Despite how much I thought I hated Johnson, I have the feeling that he's going to have an awesome year somewhere else. As JaysBeliever knows, I don't like Stewart. I think rushing giving Lind the platoon would've been the best. He could've learned from Stairs. He's not ready to start 162 games, but neither is Stairs, so why not share the job?
I still don't understand why we re-signed Stairs, or why we didn't test him for his half of the platoon.

Lou Piniella stated his interest in Reed Johnson today as a backup to Pie.

Rizdak, I think you're correct. San Diego could use Johnson, both as a defensive replacement in the latter innings for Hairston and perhaps more if Johnson regains his '06 form.

Yeah, Jim Edmonds is already injured and it's a matter of time for Brian Giles. If the Pads cant get a guy with more upside like Reggie Willits, then Reed could help spackle their OF.

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