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Towers Angry, May Make Changes

Padres GM Kevin Towers got angry last night, pointing out his team's many flaws.  He suggested that wholesale changes may be on the way.  Minor leaguers would be called up as a group; he doesn't want Chase Headley to feel too much pressure.  The Jake Peavy injury might be the nail in the coffin, though at least Peavy's ulnar collateral ligament is said to be intact. 

Which players would be part of a veteran purge?

  • Greg Maddux.  The Padres' highest paid player at $10MM, Mad Dog is calling his own shots at this point.  I imagine he'd prefer to stay put, but fans have speculated on returns to Atlanta or Chicago.
  • Brian Giles.  The team's leadoff hitter still knows how to draw a walk.  He doesn't hit lefties much but his overall numbers would look a lot better away from Petco.  He earns $9MM this year and has a $3MM buyout for '09.  He can block trades to eight teams and gets a $2MM increase if dealt.  Does Seattle make sense?
  • Trevor Hoffman.  Even if Hoffman loses the closer gig a trade seems unlikely.
  • Randy Wolf.  He might be one of the Padres' more tradeable commodities.  He's signed reasonably and just needs to remain healthy.  Everyone needs pitching.
  • Khalil Greene.  Greene gets $4.5MM this year and $6.5MM in '09.  A trade only makes sense if a good young shortstop comes back for Greene or in anothe deal.  Ken Rosenthal doesn't expect him to be moved; same goes for Chris Young, Adrian Gonzalez, and Kevin Kouzmanoff.
  • Others: Tadahito Iguchi, Tony Clark, Shawn Estes, Michael Barrett (if healthy).

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    Towers has no one to blame but himself after putting together a team of anemic hitters.

    Towers has done a fantastic job acquiring pitchers, I think at some point he has to realize that he has 8 other guys on the field. For a team with a decent payroll, they sure do a terrible job allocating it.

    Could the Padres trade Jake Peavy or Chris Young? The guys they listed above I feel are not going to get what the Padres thinks they are worth. Teams are not going to pay a lot for any of those guys. Maddux will get something but other then that they should have traded Greene before the season. He strikes out too much with a low BA.

    I'm a little confused on the Khalil Greene love as well. Yes he has power at SS, but he's 28 and still racking up sub .300 OBPs. Those kinds of numbers usually result in benchings, not moderate-to-high demand on the trade market.

    Peavy can not be traded, at least not without his permission. Young could be moved but is highly unlikely.

    I think that Greene could be traded, and i believe that the Rays make sense as a trading partner. Bartlet has been good, but Greene with the protection that lineup would give him would be insane. Greene may hit for a low avg, but he is much better on the road, for the most part Petco kills him. And the Rays have a lot of young guys that could intrigue the Padres. I dont think for a second it would be enough for any of the their three big arms, but they have some young position players that would be nice addition to SD.

    Something like:

    Rays get:
    Greene
    Cameron

    Padres get:
    Bartlet
    Eldridge
    Deago

    It would give another good power bat to that lineup and improve the defense. In addition it would add another bullpen arm to their squad.
    The Padres would get a promising young CF, and a nice active arm, in addition Bartlet would play shortstop in the mean time.

    Doubt the Rays would want to block Brignac. Wasn't Jim Bowden said to be a long time Greene obsessor.

    (Also, at the quarter mark Greene has been much worse on the road. Really weird splits actually; his BABIP on the road is bound to jump but the 25/3 K/BB (versus 13/7 at home) is just ugly.)

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=greenkh01&year=2008

    Watching this team and listening to Towers on the radio yesterday morning I would have to say the only safe players are Jake Peavy and Adrian Gonzales. In order to get some actual value the Padres are going to have to trade away guys like Heath Bell, Cla Meredith, Chris Young, etc. Trying to pawn off past their prime veterans is going to compound the problem by returning guys like Hairston, Huber, and Macanulty who are real good triple A players. I have a hard time trying to figure out who they would bring up, Headley is the only obvious choice. Beyond that maybe Venable, Huffman, and some AAAA players like Myrow, but I have a hard time seeing what that is going to accomplish.

    I'd love to see the Cubs make a move to bring Maddux back to help with a pennant push and the postseason. I'm sure he'd accept a deal, as you know he'd rather be pitching in a pennant race at Wrigley Field than in meaningless games for the Pads. Plus it'd be a nice way to finish up where he started. Granted, his postseason numbers are pretty average compared to his overall stats, but I'd still feel more comfortable with him in a playoff rotation than say, Jason Marquis or Sean Marshall. Towers has been trying to get Matt Murton for awhile...perhaps Hendry could package Murton with a couple of other prospects to swing a deal.

    Khalil Greene for Felix Pie & Ronny Cedeno is what I'm holding out for.

    With the Victorino rumour above, how about a deal that sends Randy Wolf & Scott Hairston to the Phils, in exchange for Shane?

    As for Greg, maybe he gets included in the Khalil deal and another player comes the Padres way.

    If anyone wants commentary on the state of the Padres and how depressing their play has been - feel free to check out thekeptfaith.blogspot.com

    I love the idea of moving chris young. I know this is out there but how about
    sd- young
    cubs-pie,murton,galagher
    This fixes some problems for both teams it gives sd some outfielders with upside and a pitcher who may eventually equal young and the cubs get another bbig time starter who is a true #2

    I'd add Iguchi to the Cubs deal for Young, with Fontenot headed in the other direction. Antonelli is the second baseman of the future, and I suspect Fontenot would be moved to the outfield.

    They sold Moneyball to the Padre fans, and are never going to deliver. Alderson and Towers should be ashamed of themselves. It also appears that they are playing favorites in the clubhouse (Bud Black).

    They have 3 contracts worth $30 million. The owner is also to blame.

    I thought Towers was the GM. So he is angry about what? The mediore team he assembled not playing over their heads? He has some talent there and some...ehh.

    I don't see Young being moved though and especially since Peavy is hurt. He needs someone. Personally, Young is exactly who I would trade to help get players.

    If KT deals Chris Young, I'd prefer him to go after the Braves for a package centered around Jordan Scafer or Brent Lillibridge. Chuck James or Jo Jo Reyes could serve as the second piece, with a fringe prospect coming back as the third.

    Another potential landing point for Randy Wolf could be the Rangers. Possibly in a deal for Gerald Laird?

    I also like the idea of moving Giles (who, by the way, isn't the leadoff hitter anymore) being shipped to the Indians.

    All in all, this really could be the potential of a fire sale brewing...

    www.thekeptfaith.blogspot.com

    I like Tad Iguchi to the White Sox, actually. He hit pretty well in his time there and unless Alexei Ramirez explodes, they're gonna need a solid 2B if they stay in the race.

    If the Pads really do blow it up as cwilli suggests, they could get some SERIOUS value back for players like Cla Meredith and Heath Bell, who are both elite relievers, which is the one commodity that will be universally in demand come this year's trade deadline.

    AirmanSD, no way the Rays go for Greene. I think they're extremely happy with Bartlett's play at SS, and improved infield defense was one of the main directions they chose to take this last offseason, as their brutal middle infield last season was a huge drag on their pitching staff. I think the Rays, if they make a move, will try to pick up an outfield bat (the Juan Rivera suggestion in today's chat was a great one) and will also be one of the multitudinous suitors for relief help.

    I think Tower's should be mad. I think a lot of these players are just phoning it in. But he does have a job to do so here is what I think,
    Trade Chris young to cubs for gallagher,pie,murton or to Braves for Lillibridge, James, Brandon Jones or schaffer.
    Trade Khalil Greene to any taker.
    Trade Randy wolf for gerald laird.
    Tadahito Iguchi to white sox for Brian anderson.
    I'm more excited for this team now then I was before the season started.

    Iguchi to CWS for Brian Anderson. Excellent. That could actually happen, and would help both teams. Give Anderson a shot in CF, and if it turns out he truly cannot hit, at least we know he can play D, which is more than can be said of any of SD's current options.

    By the way, while I'm here, AirmanSD, I don't know anything about Kevin Cameron, is he supposed to be any good?

    i cant see greene to the Cubs. He isnt much of an upgrade really. The Cubs have enough power, so it wouldnt make sense to get a lower avg. guy. Theriot has done pretty well in the 2 hole.

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