Jason Bay Rumors: Thursday

oh god...dodger fans will be nervous wrecks for the next 48 minutes

doesn't manny already play in boston?

love this deal.

Looks like the Pirates screwed themselves. I bet Boston is super pissed at the Marlins if this was all it took to get Bay.

You here that?

That is the sound of Manny opening the Green Monster door and hiding in there for the rest of the summer

nice pickup for the rays! they didnt give up that much and the pirates get two very good prospects, nice on both sides

Like this deal for Pittsburgh. No point in keeping Bay- by the time they're a contender, he'll be on the decline- and now they've got a nice SP with a No. 2/3 ceiling and an All Star caliber SS they can pair with Alvarez (once he signs) on the left side of the infield. Light at the end of the tunnel?

Arent the Rays full of talent all the way through there orginzation?

How has ESPN not even mentioned this yet?

I like this deal for Tampa Bay. Neimann was probably never going to get a fair shake as a starter in Tampa Bay's rotation, and with Beckham looming in a few years Brignac might not have gotten a fair shake either. In this case, Tampa's excess is Pittsburgh's gold.

I love how ESPN has a whole special dedicated to the trade deadline and they haven't even reported anything yet.

Obviously good for TB too. Still, you know the PIT fans are gonna be up in arms about not getting Price, Davis, or Hellickson. Ridiculous. I think the Bucs coulda got one or two lesser prospects thrown in, but not one of the big 3. So impressed by the TB front office. Wish my O's were as thoughtful and patient.

Can someone please lock Ned Colletti in a very dark room for the next 40 minutes to make sure he does not try and trade for a pathetic Jack Wilson...

As a Pirate fan, I am now offically done with this organization. Hope they move. They are a joke with the Steelers and now the Pens winning.

Trade with best player for a lighht hitting SS and a 4th/5th starter.

Where is the nearest bridge?

the bosox-marlins deal seems like it was all a joke for bay...the rays are giving LESS than what the pirates would have got in the manny trade...it may have just been for tampa to push up thier price and they stayed put...

if so, nice job tampa FO.

pghman77, i admire you for hagning on this long

The deal isn't perfect for the Pirates, but hey... it shows they're actually moving in the right direction here. Maybe in 3 or 4 years they'll field a team with watching.

I love Jason Bay as a player, but the Pirates needed a change. They were going nowhere fast.

So in conclusion, the Pirates held out for a guy who might be an above average SS in 3 years, and a 4th or 5th starter?

Nobody else offered them a better package for Jason Bay? Seriously? Where were the Dodgers on this? Jesus Christ.

Im confused. . . . how was this deal better than the one the Braves offered of Lillibridge, Jones and two Pitchers from the minors?

Dodgers offer Chin Lung Hu, James McDonald and Cory Wade.

Just as ridiculous of a package as Reid Brignac and Niemann.

:o

Contrary to CSIZZL3's opinion, the world is not conspiring against Boston. Especially when he thinks everyone is out to help the Yankees. That's funny.

The latest trade proposals had the Red Sox getting rid of Manny for 2 months along with some low level talent. In return they would get Bay along with Garbow. That trade was slanted way to heavily towards to the Red Sox. It's no shocker that it didn't go through as reported.

I really like this trade for the Rays, I'm really happy for them. I'll be rooting for them come playoff time.

A steal for the Rays. I agree that with the Rays, Yankees, and Angels makes major aquisitions that the Red Sox no longer look as good as they did coming into the year. I wouldn't be surprised if the Red Sox missed the playoffs.

Also, Huntington is doing terrible with his first 2 trades. He declined Lillibridge, Jones, and 2 other prospects yet settles for only Niemann and Brignac. Right before this he gets only Tabata, Ohlendorf, Karstens, and McCutchen. He sucks.

Also, the Marlins must've offered pretty much nothing for Manny. Hermida and Tucker would far beat this package. Heck, they could've gotten Bay instead of Manny for Hermida and Tucker.

So, to sum it up, the Rays rock, Huntington sucks, and the Marlins won't part with anyone for Manny. And that deal's dead, officially.

Nate McClouth to Boston for Sean Casey..

Seriously, what a freaking joke,..

Pittsburgh, where baseball careers die.

I don't believe this story because if he works for mlb.com how come when I go to mlb.com there is no mention of the trade. Don't you think if a reporter for mlb.com had the story they would have posted it on their website?

Please God... we want davis...

mlb.com gets the stories later than we do!
My daughter is an intern there and they find out with the rest of us.

So add Irod, Nady and Marte and subtract posada and farnsworth and the yankees are all of a sudden better than the red sox? Not buying that one.

Wow I am very impressed by this website and the Rays beat writer. He beat all the major media guys to this I'm watching the trade deadline special and they have not even mentioned this yet.

NICE

So many morons out there. Tell me, Joe... How exactly is Lillibridge, Jones, Rohrbaugh and Locke better than Brignac and Niemann (and I'm sure there'll be a couple low level guys in there, but regardless...)? Lillibridge is AWFUL...always has been, always will. Jones is TERRIBLE. Same story. Both Rohrbaugh and Locke have potential, but they ain't exactly lighting the world on fire in the LOW minors, so it's anything but assured that they'll even MAKE the majors. The Rays deal is EASILY an improvement over the Braves offer. As for Hermida/Tucker- I'll agree it's better (but not WAY better; a SS as promising as Brignac is difficult to find...more so than an OF'er), but who says the Marlins were offering that?! Clearly they weren't interested and backed out or else we'd be talking about Bay going to Florida or Boston. Ridiculous how people manipulate ideas to frame their own perspective as the correct one.

Come on rays back out. Remember you are not supposed to be good until next year.

Jeniffer Langosch:

Updating an earlier blog entry, there are conflicting reports about whether or not Bay will in fact be headed to Tampa Bay.

A short while ago, a source in Pittsburgh corroborated an earlier MLB.com report that Pirates outfielder Jason Bay is going to be traded to the Rays before 4 p.m. ET this afternoon. As reported earlier, the Pirates are believed to be satisifed with taking shortstop Reid Brignac and pitcher Jeff Niemann in exchange for Bay.

However, it could be a little more complicated that that. According to another industry source in Pittsburgh, the Rays still are not believed to be offering both Brignac and Niemann. One, it is not known who, is deemed unavailable, along with Wade Davis, David Price and Jeremy Hellick

The idiots are coming out in full force today. I get the idea there are a crapload of people logged on here today who have no idea how the trade deadline works.

I can't believe the Rays didn't accept that trade. It was a totall trade. they were never going to use Niemann and would've used Brignac for only 2 or 3 years. I cant believe they chocked.

:shakes head: Niemann+Brignac should have been done.

milehigh your a moron, your going to tell me youd turn down hermidia and hunter jones and ryan tucker for niemann and brignac? birgnac is so far from being in the bigs its ridiculous. all his numbers are low and you point out he lead in doubles for a part of the season. wow. do me a favor and go play in traffic. the bucs are stupid they gave marte and nady away to the yankees for 4 throw aways, people that werent even in the top 25 of the yankees organization. ohlendorf? really? give me a freaking break. and now your going to tell me that if they trade for a light hitting SS and a decent middle rotation starter. go ahead and do it. if the red sox dont make the playoffs ill be pissed but ill take great joy in watching the pirates flounder for the next 10 years because they mortaged their best players for garbage.

And will people please stop comparing Xavier Nady with Jason Bay?? Nady is playing waaay above his normal level and every GM knew it. The Pirates got a sufficient return for him and a lefty specialist. Not a great return, but fair enough.

Bay should have brought in far more than Brignac and Niemann. Wait until the offseason and revisit the subject.

if the rays didn't make this deal because of reid brignac then there's something wrong with the organization. The Rays clearly don't want to spend money to win now and they will always try to get ready for the future which will never come if they keep letting golden opportunities such as this one just die.

This is coming from a die-hard Rays fan. I cannot believe they didn't pull the trigger on this deal. As a fan, I am extremely disappointed in the organization.

btw- that was a link to Jenifer Langosch

CSIZZL3- The problem with your point is that you're assuming the Marlins were actually MAKING THAT OFFER! Apparently that was little more than the machination of some over eager writer looking for a scoop or speculating on Marlins prospects. As I wrote in the post you're referring to, the three way WOULD HAVE been better for the Bucs, IF the Marlins were actually willing to part with the three players in question. They clearly were not.

And where are you getting this 'light hitting SS' garbage? You're so enamored of Stanton and his line at low A? Brignac put up a .326/.382/.557 line at HIGH A a couple years ago and slammed 21 jacks...as a SHORTSTOP! Last year he had 17 in Double A, along with another 30 doubles! That's 'light-hitting?!' Seriously?! How many SS prospects can you name with comparable stats. Better yet, how many MLB SSs not named Hanley, have put up lines like that over the last few years? A few, I'm sure, but not a ton and those that have are generally considered stars (unless, like Tejada, they've pissed the world off).

'Go play in traffic'? Grow up.