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According to a press release from the club, the Angels exercised their 2009 options on Vladimir Guerrero and John Lackey and declined their option on Garret Anderson. Nothing unexpected here.
Guerrero will earn $15MM, while Lackey is also a bargain at $9MM. The Angels chose Anderson's $3MM buyout over his $14MM option, but they could still re-sign him.
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After '09, going into his age-34 season, I'm predicting some huge offers for Vlad that take him out of Los Angeles, making Teixeira that much more important to sign this off-season for the Angels.
Seriously, I could see Vlad getting a $100MM deal next season; especially with the Red Sox in play if they don't re-sign Jason Bay.
Posted by: WestCoastBias | October 28, 2008 at 03:48 PM
Really? I think the opposite. I think he is getting worse as he gets older. May be just me??
Posted by: richie | October 28, 2008 at 04:18 PM
I don't think Vladi will get blown away with huge offers next offseason. I think because of his knees and dipping numbers he will get an offer for around 4/50. Either way, I believe it will be the angels that resign him and they will resign Lackey but I expect lackey to want something closer to 5 or 6 for 75-80.
Posted by: WasianCU | October 28, 2008 at 04:26 PM
Agreed, Vlad isn't getting any younger and it's doubtful that he's going to be in line for a $100 million + offer after '09. He's obviously slipping.
Good work by the Angels. Lackey and Vlad were no brainers and Anderson essentially was too. If they can bring him back at a significantly reduced rate they'll be in good shape.
Posted by: pageian | October 28, 2008 at 04:41 PM
Vlad has already said he doesn't want to play anywhere else. I expect him to work out another deal with the Angels, no idea what the terms would be tho. Hopefully his surgery on the 10th will fix his knee problem.
Posted by: beequack | October 28, 2008 at 05:42 PM
Here's a question. I'm not an Angels fan, I'm actually an Atlanta fan. How would you guys feel if Tex is allowed to walk, but you've got Vlad's option picked up? I'm just curious. I've been looking around both leagues at potential outfield fits for the Braves, not that I'm saying that Vlad would be one, but I thought of him, and I still care about Tex for sure. Just something that came to mind. How could picking up Guerrero's option be justified if Tex isn't in an Angel uni come April?
Angel fans, any thoghts?
Posted by: Apollo'08 | October 28, 2008 at 05:55 PM
"I think he is getting worse as he gets older. May be just me??"
Oh goodness. How short can the memory of people be? Vlad's poor first half was due to a nagging injury that he didn't rest because the team needed his production. Once Scioscia forced him to take some time off, he roared back and put up monster numbers in the second half.
.330 .391 .580
Meanwhile, in 2007, he put up the following line:
.324 .403 .547
Hardly a "decline"
"How would you guys feel if Tex is allowed to walk, but you've got Vlad's option picked up?"
Tex is an unrestricted free agent. It is his choice as to where he can go. Vlad is under team control and the price is under market, so there is no comparison. There is no question that the Angels can afford Tex, even with Vlad's option picked up. It is a matter of their willingness to pay for him.
Posted by: AA | October 28, 2008 at 06:35 PM
Can't believe Vladdy's been out there 5 years already. I guess Wilpons/Duquette (or was it Phillips, I forget?) were right when they said Vlad's back wouldn't last through the whole contract (rolls eyes). It's still interesting to wonder what would have been if the Mets signed A-Rod back in 2000, or Vlad in 04(or both).
Posted by: nrmax88 | October 28, 2008 at 06:50 PM
"Can't believe Vladdy's been out there 5 years already. I guess Wilpons/Duquette (or was it Phillips, I forget?) were right when they said Vlad's back wouldn't last through the whole contract (rolls eyes)."
The ones who are really kicking themselves are the Dodgers, who let Vlad go twice (once in the DR and once in 2004)
Posted by: AA | October 28, 2008 at 07:01 PM
Angels should sign Orlando Cabrera. They should trade Adenhart,Wood, and Kendrick for Matt Holliday. They should let Tex go so they have enough money to sign CC. They should try to trade for Mike Jacobs or sign Jason Giambi. I think Giambi will be rejuvenated on the west coast and he posted good numbers last year: 373obp 32hr and 96rbi
Posted by: dwright3b05 | October 28, 2008 at 08:03 PM
"Angels should sign Orlando Cabrera."
What the hell for? They have 3 guys who can contribute just as much as Cabrera right now, and for less money. Aybar and Wood are near minimum and Izturis will probably get $2.5 million to avoid arbitration.
"They should trade Adenhart,Wood, and Kendrick for Matt Holliday."
You must work for the Rockies. Holliday is still a question mark outside Coors, but the main issue is that the package you suggested is worth FAR more than 1 year of Holliday.
"They should try to trade for Mike Jacobs"
Why in the world would they want such a colossal downgrade?
"I think Giambi will be rejuvenated on the west coast and he posted good numbers last year: 373obp 32hr and 96rbi"
And I think Tex is worth much more in the long term.
Posted by: AA | October 28, 2008 at 08:37 PM
Yeah I know Tex decides where he goes but it seems like he's willing to stay and that it's just a matter of money. But if it is how you say that they can afford him and Vlad easily than I see it's a non issue.
Just curious.Thanks
Posted by: Apollo'08 | October 28, 2008 at 08:53 PM
"Yeah I know Tex decides where he goes but it seems like he's willing to stay and that it's just a matter of money. But if it is how you say that they can afford him and Vlad easily than I see it's a non issue."
Of course they can. Even if Tex gets $20 million a year, that is not much of a bump from what they paid this year for Anderson and some other parts. Further, the team is worth nearly 3 times what Moreno paid for it, so there is tons of equity to play with.
Also, Vlad's marketing value to the team is far more than that of Tex. While Tex is a great offensive player, he doesn't have the same box office pull Guerrero has. It is sort of like Guerrero is Ruth and Tex is Gehrig as a point of comparison.
Posted by: AA | October 28, 2008 at 09:00 PM
Vlad should be good to go in spring after getting surgery on his knee.
Posted by: angelsfan67 | October 28, 2008 at 09:05 PM
Nice to see the front office using some common sense... now let's see how far it goes.
Yes, the Angels can and probably WILL sign Teixeira. I'm calling 7 years, $140MM w/2 option years.
And I am completely STOKED that Vladdy finally got the knee scoped out. Let's see how he responds, then hopefully resign him for a few more years.
Posted by: bseballcrzy17 | October 29, 2008 at 12:15 AM
=/, Why didn't the Yankees sign Vlad back in '04, they just had to have Sheff for some morbid reason.
Side note, what kind of contract will Lackey demand?
Posted by: JuNeYanksFan | October 29, 2008 at 02:58 AM
Angels should let Tex go and try to sign CC. Imagine a rotation like this:
CC
Lackey
Saunders
Garland
Escobar/Weaver
That would be an incredible rotation. Then they could find a cheaper alternative at 1st like Giambi, Jacobs, or maybe try and trade for Carlos Guillen. I know he is old and does not play good defense but I think that is a fair comprimise if you are able to go out and get CC.
Posted by: dwright3b05 | October 29, 2008 at 09:19 AM
"Side note, what kind of contract will Lackey demand?"
No doubt he's going to command Zambrano type money. I'm guessing he gets at least $17-19 million when he's eligible for free agency.
Posted by: pageian | October 29, 2008 at 09:46 AM
dwright3b05, you have the angels signing CC and garland and moving Santana? Or did you mean for Santana to be in there instead of Garland? Either way, pitching isn't the problem for the angels, it's consistency on offense.
I would like to see a rotation of:
CC
Lackey
Santana
Saunders
Escobar/Adenhart
But with offense being the priority this offseason, Tex has to come first. Then in the situation above where they actually did sign CC, you could move one of the other starters (hopefully weaver but could be santana or saunders) and try to package them with the awful contract of GMJ for another bat (Maybe add another prospect to get Holliday?)
Posted by: WasianCU | October 29, 2008 at 09:57 AM
Why the hell does everyone want the Halos to sign CC? Yeah, he's an awesome pitcher... wonderful. Pitching is NOT this team's problem! They need a power bat, and a guy that knows how to get on base. Moreover, they need an American League lineup... balance some speed out with major power, NOT the other way around.
Posted by: bseballcrzy17 | October 29, 2008 at 11:30 AM
Hey if y'all want to sign CC and let Tex walk, we'll give you Konerko and a song for Figgins.
Posted by: ballerwhiteboy | October 29, 2008 at 11:45 AM
"Why didn't the Yankees sign Vlad back in '04, they just had to have Sheff for some morbid reason."
Vlad wasn't going to go to the Yankees. He wanted to go to a team with a strong Latin presence, and that was either the Dodgers with their history or the Angels with their owner. The Dodgers dropped the ball (for the second time) and the Angels got him.
As for Sheff, it is hard to fault the Yankees for it. He was brutally productive in his first 2 years and it is hard to control injuries.
"Side note, what kind of contract will Lackey demand?"
I agree with the Zambrano logic, though he may take a hometown discount. Whatever it is, Lackey is a legit ace and should be resigned. I hope the Angels can do one of their traditional spring training extensions for both Lackey and Vlad.
"you have the angels signing CC and garland and moving Santana?"
If that happened, I would hope Tony Reagins got fired on the spot. Santana as a rookie was better than Garland is currently, let alone what Santana has matured in to.
Posted by: AA | October 29, 2008 at 12:30 PM
I did not mean to exclude Santana in my previous post...Another thought though how about signing Milton Bradley. He does bring alot of baggage but he has a great obp
Posted by: dwright3b05 | October 29, 2008 at 04:17 PM
"Another thought though how about signing Milton Bradley. He does bring alot of baggage but he has a great obp"
They don't need the uncertainty, especially considering he can't play defense much any more, which means fewer days to rest Vlad at DH.
"Also is it me or does it look like Vladdy's ready to break down?"
Its just you. Apparently you missed his freakish second half line. They should have had him sit for 5 days in May.
Posted by: AA | November 01, 2008 at 02:32 PM