Braves May Consider Peavy

Would Schafer + Morton be a good start? I'd imagine it would take more than just those two, but if you can give Jordan Schafer and Charlie Morton and be able to hold onto Hanson and Heyward, it'd be worth it.

The Braves will not trade Heyward or Hanson.

The only way the Braves get Peavy is if SD is determined to move him to clear payroll, and Peavy limits their options using his no-trade rights.

He's expressed interest in pitching in Atlanta; so that may lower the price for the Braves. If not, I don't see it happening.

Living in SD and being a Padres fan (yeah, I know, it's a curse right now...), I'm obiously following this closely.

For starters: part of the reason Jake accepted a below-market contract is because he really likes SD. He just built a house there and views the city as a great place to raise kids. The weather is another element coming into play. Plus, Petco is obviously a great place for pitchers. For these reasons, I disagree that Peavy waiving his no-trade clause is a no-brainer. Remember, Giles turned down a trade to the Red Sox earlier in 08. While SD sucks as far as baseball, it is a nice place to live.

Jake has already said it would really take the perfect situation for him to leave, and that AL teams and East-Coast teams were unlikely destinations. Frankly, the only teams which could attract Jake are division rivals (Arizona, LA). I'll be surprised if he does get traded in 09. 2011 is a different story.

Basically, the only players SD fans still care about are Adrian Gonzalez, Chris Young, Peavy, and to a lesser extent Kouzmanoff, Giles and Hoffmann (even though the latter two are free agents). Any trade involving these guys will be sure to alienate a lot of fans. Trust me, if Jake gets moved, Towers better get a LOT of top prospects or he'll be looking at an empty stadium in 09.

I don't see how the Braves should not be willing to part with one of their top prospects to make this deal work. Peavy is without a doubt an elite pitcher and probably falls somewhere in the top 5 pitchers in all of baseball.

Like the article points out, teams were reluctant to part with their top prospects for Santana because they knew that even after they gave up their top prospect they were going to have to still pony up a contract for about 20 mil a year for 6-7 years. That's not the case with Peavy his contract is cheap considering his ability.

Peavy for Francoeur straight up.

Francoeur sucks and I would give him to the Padres just so he'd go away. Then we could start negotiations for Peavy.

My guess is the Yankees get him if CC signs elsewhere. My guess is a package of Hughes and Jackson plus a few others.

"Peavy for Francoeur straight up."

Wow a statement like that almost makes Yankees/Cubs/Mets fans look good.

KJ, Brandon Jones, and Tommy Hanson would be an interesting offer. Padres fans??

OK lets get nuts here:

Trade for Peavy
Heyward ( need to give talent to get it)
Johnson
Branden Jones
add parts

Trade for Cain
Hanson ( still just a prospect not sure if he pans out)
escobar
add your parts

sign O-dog for second base
let Lillibridge play short ( Defense is there, bat him 8th)

You brought in an ACE a #2, you still have Jurjjens as your 3, second base is filled, AND you still have the money to get your left fielder.

rotation
Peavy
Cain
JJ
Campillo
fill in blank

Lineup
Anderson/Schafer
O-dog
Chipper
FA LF
Mccann
Kotchman
Francouer
Lillibrisge

Hey i know its crazy but its been brutal these past couple years, and in the trades SD and SF are def getting talent back.

Wow, Braves fans are almost as bad as Yankees/Mets fans.

Let's just say, any rational package starts with ONE OR MORE of Heyward, Hanson, Freeman, Schafer, or Rohrborough. Most likely, it will cost two of those guys.

It will then cost them additional players who HAVE DECENT UPSIDE. At least a 4:1 if all the players are prospects; I would also say that at least one of the prospects should be near MLB ready (i.e. Brent Lillibridge, Brandon Jones, etc.) I could see 3:1 happening if an MLB player were in the deal. I

Exception to the rule would probably be if an MLB player like Kelly Johnson, Yunel Escobar, etc. were in the deal, but I still see at least one of those top prospects going.

A logical sample deal (not sure if both sides would do it) would be Heyward, Rohrborough, Brandon Hicks, Brandon Jones, and Charlie Morton for Peavy.

melonis rex, I think the Braves would consider something like Kelly Johnson, Gorkys Hernandez (who I really like and think is a better CF prospect than Schafer, but he's one year further away from mlb-ready), Cole Rohrbough, and (if you really want him), Lillibridge. Maybe Brandon Jones instead of Lillibridge.

That's a solid 2B, an outstanding 5-tool CF prospect, a highly ranked pitching prospect, and a strong-glove, waiting-to-learn-to-hit SS.

"Never, never compare us to Mets/Yankees fans."

Yeah. Met and Yankee fans actually show up for playoff games.

"Yeah. Met and Yankee fans actually show up for playoff games."

Zing! Oh man, this guy is too much. I bet he thought of that all by himself.

UCSD,
Did do the research, and what I found was that his career ERA is 1 pt. higher on the road. Not that a 3.80 ERA is poor, but it isn't the ridiculous 2.xx that he serves up at home. He also gives up significantly more HR's away (makes perfect sense considering Petco's spacious confines), but also strikes out significantly fewer batters on the road.

There is no denying that Peavy is a great pitcher when healthy. My problem with his health is that, unlike guys like Sabathia or Santana who have no history of arm troubles (I only mention Sabathia because his performance is comparable), Peavy has spent a good amount of time on the DL ALREADY with Shoulder and Elbow problems. He has a violent delivery, and pitchers like that tend to spend more time on the DL than others.

It's also not true that "every pitcher in baseball that throws over 200ip" will have to have surgery. Plenty of pitchers who have pitched over 200 innings have never had surgery, or at least not until very late in their careers. Do some reasearch yourself, and try not to be so cocky.

Huh. I wonder if Peavy's friendship with Scott Linebrink (they used to play music together during road trips, according to an article in the SD paper) would influence him to accept a trade to the White Sox. Couple that with playing for an excitable manager (as opposed to mellow guys like Bochy and Black), and the preponderance of fellow outdoorsmen in Chicago (Buehrle, A.J., Thome)...not that any of this means anything, of course.

Z3R0, Shafer and Hernandez are basically the same player. We need to keep one, and I don't know how SD could use both (except in trade). Otherwise, substituting a good prospect for one of those guys, I think we have a deal.

Another "Hudson for scraps" deal will not happen.

Peavy is an elite, cheap pitcher that can be had for many years. Here's what the deal may come down to:

2B Kelly Johnson
SP Thomas Hanson
OF Gorkys Hernandez
SS Brent Lillibridge
OF Brandon Jones

for Jake Peavy. I say do it. The Braves need an elite pitcher. With only $11 mil used of the $45 mil available, the Braves can sign Derek Lowe and a left fielder with the money remaining.

2B Kelly Johnson
SP Thomas Hanson
OF Gorkys Hernandez
SS Brent Lillibridge
OF Brandon Jones

is mediocre???

You get a very good hitting ML 2nd basemen in Johnson, a guy who is probably a top 25 prospect this year in Hanson, and three guys who were all top 100 prospects in baseball at the start of the year. Mediocre? No.

When you're trading for a Peavy, it's quality, not quantity. There is simply no way this gets done without Heyward.

Then you can start adding 2nd-rate prospects.

More than likely they will require major-league ready talent.

Actually here's an idea - Mets fans - Peavy and Greene for Reyes?

Who's got more valuable? Peavy as the true ace is the more valuable commodity, but Reyes is significantly cheaper (but only under control for 3 years, as opposed to 4 or 5 for Peavy). What do you think?

You can replace Reyes' offense, but you can't get a Peavy without spending $150M+ for Sabathia.

Melonis,
Thank you for pointing out the real key difference.

As I said, there is no doubt that in order to get a deal done for Peavy, the Braves would need to move top prospects. What I am saying is that I value those prospects more than Peavy considering all of the facts. Pads fans may feel differently, and I don't blame them. It is certainly the case that fans place more value on their commodities than fans of other teams (and I am not saying that Peavy isn't valuable). Look at us Braves fans and Francoeur (though I for the record want to have him sent to the minors).

The Pads need a 2B and OF.

I would be willing to part with Hanson to receive a player of Peavy's calibe. Hason has not proven he can pitch lights-out in the Pro's, whereas Peavy has been excellent the past two season (this year he had no run support) and is signed long-term. Your not really killing your teams future if you acquire a player like Jake who is still young, a proven ace and signed at below-market price.

I would be willing to deal: KJ, B. Jones, Hanson and another player if necessary.

Phils fan here - We fans want Peavy. Period. I would try to come up with the blow away package.

I know we're not done with this year yet but...

C Lou Marson (reluctantly), RHP Blanton (still cheap, MLB -made for Petco), LHP Happ (reluctantly), 2B/3B Jason Donald, RHP Kendrick and OF Greg Golson (or Michael Taylor).

A Top Catching prospect, 3 MLB or MLB-ready P's, an MLB ready Olympic 2Ber and a toolsy OF.

Top that Braves Fans.

Phillip_Cannon I like your theory.

Grienke was definitely a stud this year on a bad Royals team. However his past stats are not anything spectacular. In '05 he pitched similar inning but allowed 25 HR's and only had 114 K's. I know some people have speculated trading Frenchy for him. But I think Frenchy will rebound after he trims off the extra baggage he gained this year.

I still like the idea of getting Peavy. A proven commodity at SP and flame thrower. What other injuries has he had other than this year? From '05-'07 he was throwing over 200 K's a year! Thats insane my friend.

Chief, I would never ever ever trade Franquoer. He is going to be talked about for years to come.