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From Pat Borzi of the New York Times:
Ken Griffey Jr., whose nine-year, $116.5 million contract expires after this season, told Chicago writers that he wants to play three more years.
I can't find any reference to this in the Chicago papers, oddly. Griffey, 39 in November, hit .249/.353/.424 in 575 plate appearances this year. He might be a reasonable signing on a one-year deal at less than $10MM, to fill a DH spot. But would Junior be amenable to any of those conditions?
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How about one year and an option to the Mariners... give fans a reason to come
Posted by: gogopalehose | October 05, 2008 at 01:34 PM
there's not much reason to come to mariners games, but then again i've said that the last 4 years and i live in seattle... unless the m's acquire albert pujols, i don't think much can be done, lol. felix is the only light at the end of the tunnel and he'll be gone soon, very sad
Posted by: 5th Beatle?! | October 05, 2008 at 01:43 PM
Signing Griffey would be a mistake for the Mariners. The franchise needs to rebuild badly, no sense in wasting $10M on a 39 year old for the sake of nostalgia. Besides, Griffey wants to win. Why go to Seattle?
Posted by: icedrake523 | October 05, 2008 at 01:43 PM
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It would surprise me if you're from Seattle by the way you said that. Nobody goes to the games, and that won't change next year. With Griffey in the line-up, his presence alone will draw people. I will be one of the people going to a ton of games if Griffey is brought back...
Posted by: baseballismylyf4 | October 05, 2008 at 01:52 PM
The Rays were the first team to come to mind. Does Griffey still live in Florida?
Posted by: jskohl | October 05, 2008 at 01:57 PM
$10m for a sub 800 OPS DH seems a little steep.
If anything I would think a price tag of $5m might be more reasonable.
If the M's are interested it won't be so that they can win. This is a PR move that might have the fringe benefits of providing a leadership perspective to what should be a very young M's team.
Posted by: bjsguess | October 05, 2008 at 02:13 PM
I did write less than $10MM...
Posted by: Tim Dierkes | October 05, 2008 at 02:15 PM
jskohl, as far as I know Griffey and his family still live in Orlando,FL.
Posted by: Bank Street Grounds | October 05, 2008 at 02:18 PM
cough 700 HR plateau cough
Posted by: sprewellmin | October 05, 2008 at 02:35 PM
How much of a draw is an aging, injury-prone slugger? I understand he started in Seattle, but given Griffey's current skill set, his draw will be fleeting.
Rather than making nostalgia signings, losing teams need to focus resources and playing time to developing talent. It's like a restaurant with crappy food worrying about their breadsticks.
Posted by: scatterbrian | October 05, 2008 at 02:37 PM
cough it's gonna take more than three years for Griffey to hit 89 homers cough
Posted by: scatterbrian | October 05, 2008 at 02:47 PM
Griffey getting three years? Cubs have a better chance of winning the WS then Griffey getting 3 years...
Posted by: GmblngPtchr20 | October 05, 2008 at 03:23 PM
I agree with scatterbrian, signing Griffey would be an incredibly stupid move for the Mariners. How long would the novelty of Griffey actually last especially if he played poorly? Time to go young and rebuild.
Posted by: MickS | October 05, 2008 at 03:34 PM
As someone that watched him for half a season this year in Cincinnati, Griffey is done. Every organization has someone in their minors that can put up the numbers that he can now. Griffey was great but injuries have more then taken a toll on him. The only contract that Griffey should sign would be a one year one million dollar deal with Seattle to be a part time player for a retirement tour.
Griffey isn't going to hit 700 homers, I'll be surprised frankly if he can get to even 625.
What he is now, is a poor defensive LF that will hit between .220-.250 with minimal power....but still want to be treated as if he were still the player he once was.
Griffey was a great once in a generation player, but sadly that generation has come to a close because of injuries that kept him from being as great as he should have been.
The only thing a three year deal will do is tarnish his greatness, much like Mays's last year with the Mets.
Posted by: schellis | October 05, 2008 at 03:40 PM
The rays should look at K. Griffey Jr. or B. Abreu ... both would fit nicely at the DH/RF spot
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Posted by: arod13 | October 05, 2008 at 04:05 PM
Wonder how K. Griffey Jr. likes 1B ... yanks are looking for a firstbaseman
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Posted by: arod13 | October 05, 2008 at 04:10 PM
should this really surprise anyone that he expressed interest in three more years? if anyone remembers what his dad said after no. 600 was that he wanted to reach 3000 hits. Sitting at just under 2700, that equals three years...this isn't an attempt at 700. Next, 700 doesn't really mean a whole lot...nobody is between 660 and 714. Next important number is 660, that is a reasonable expectation with 3 years.
The idea that some minor leaguer could put up the numbers...sure. But they can't replace the impact that he has on a clubhouse...as well as a lineup. Griffey is still feared because he CAN still hit the ball. A pitcher makes a mistake, he can still put the ball out of the part in a hurry. Griffey showed in September that he still has it. He was regularly popping up on the highlight reals in CF with the Sox. This kid can still play. (Asked the Minnesota Twins...if it weren't for Griffey and Thome...who you guys won't give any respect...it would have been the Twins in the playoffs, not the Sox.
If I am a GM with a RF/DH spot open...especially with a lot of young guys (Rays)...I would have no reservations in signing Griffey to a 3 yr/24 mill. Winning team, hall of famer setting records every game he plays...he is always rewriting the recordbooks for something...I have him on my roster next season...no doubt
Posted by: coltholt | October 05, 2008 at 04:48 PM
Griffey has a negitive effect on the clubhouse. He's never been a leader. He is also not feared at all. I firmly believe that he cost the Reds at least five games this year, though I think the number is closer to 10 just with his horrible fielding in RF and the fact that he insisted on hitting third in the lineup.
Teams like the Rays would be far far better served using any cent that they would send Griffey's way to lock up their young players.
Guys that can hit .250 with 15 homers are a dime a dozen.
The far better opition would be to find a cheap unappreicated OF from another organization, like the Phillies did with Jason Werth.
Posted by: schellis | October 05, 2008 at 05:09 PM
King Griffey Junior is done. All he can hit now is a Fast Ball or Change Up that is lwo and inside; Pitches that he can speed hsi bat head up by being able to drop the bat down on. Anything up or in and he can't get around on them.
Pre All Star break 2007, KGJ hit 23 Home Runs and had 59 RBI's in 287 At Bats. Since that time, in 731 At Bats, he has 25 Home Runs and 105 RBI's.
Now that he is away from Great American Small Park, (a hitters park which aids Left Handed hitters) KGJ is even worse.
With the Reds, he had 15 Home Runs in 359 At Bats or one HR in every 23.93 At Bats. With the White Sox, KGJ had three Home Runs in 131 At Bats or one HR in every 43.66 At Bats.
So, add in his lack of range on Defense to his declining Offense and WHY would ANYBODY spend money on KGJ, ESPECIALLY for more than one year?
Posted by: ctownboy | October 05, 2008 at 07:40 PM
schellis and ctownboy,
you guys are exactly why griffey wanted out of cincy. he said that he got more support on the road than he did at home.
you can't blame the reds problems over the last 10 years on griffey. for many of those years, the reds led the majors in homers and just had no pitching. stop hating on the greatest baseball player of this generation because he can't keep up with what he was in the 90's...that is quite a high expectation.
Ask ozzie and I don't think that you will see him talking down the trade
Posted by: coltholt | October 05, 2008 at 08:01 PM
"Griffey getting three years? Cubs have a better chance of winning the WS then Griffey getting 3 years..."
Anything has a better chance than the Cubs winning the WS.
Posted by: BklynJT | October 05, 2008 at 08:25 PM
I admited that he was the greatest player of his generation, but facts are facts everyone gets old.
Nobody is expecting him to be the player he was in the 90's. The fact is that he's not even the player he was a few years ago.
Of course Ozzie isn't going to talk down the trade its not like the White Sox gave up anything of major value
It would be very foolish for any team to shell out the kind of contract that Griffey wants now when they have similar production in the minor leagues that will play for the minimum.
Fans will come to see Griffey, but they will eventually tire of that because they'll want to see the 90's Griffey. Fans on the road of course will cheer for him because he was great and in their eyes he still is great. But to the eyes of those that have seen him daily for years he just isn't close to the player he was and you'd just rather see him walk away instead of seeing him be so mortal.
The injuries not only ruined seasons for him with the Reds but they shaved off years of his career.
A one or two year deal with Seattle where he is loved for saving the franchise would be best for him unless he's willing to take a part time/bench role with a contender.
Any team with playoff aspirations that is starting Griffey is only hurting them.
Remove the name Ken Griffey Jr, and have him be a rather ordinary player and I feel that most would be laughing at this request for three years.
Someone that hits .250 with 15 homer power that can't play even average defense just isn't in that big demand.
And that is the player that Griffey is now.
As for blaming Griffey, I only blame him for one year. The year the Cardinals won the World Series the Reds were in the hunt for the NLC and Griffey broke his toe and was day to day for around a month. A true leader would have moved to a less demanding position (he was still in CF then even if he was the worst by far in the league) and got his bat in the lineup when the team needed him.
Griffey seems like a great guy, and was a phenominal player, but it doesn't change the fact that he's close to 40 and his skills have greatly deminished.
Posted by: schellis | October 05, 2008 at 09:54 PM
To all the people who don't understand the draw the the fans would have if Griffey signed with the Mariners...
We understand he isn't the classic Griffey we saw dominate the AL, it's just the fact that we would have Griffey in a Mariners jersey, hopefully wearing #24 again.. You gotta live in Seattle (or just be a depressed, diehard Mariners fan) to understand
Posted by: baseballismylyf4 | October 06, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Again - the M's make a lot of sense.
Normally I wouldn't advocate for a team rebuilding to spend $5m on a guy like Griffey. But in this case I will say it - this would be a smart move.
The only harm in signing him is (1) spending financial resources poorly and (2) taking away playing time from potential developing talent. In Seattle's case neither of these factors are relevant. He will bring in $5m worth of revenue in ticket sales/jerseys, etc. And as for playing time, I'm not aware of any young Mariners who need AB's at DH. Their kids can (and should) all take the field in 09.
I'm not suggesting that Griffey is a fit anywhere else. I just believe this is a perfect situation for both parties if he is willing to take a significantly reduced paycheck and play DH.
Posted by: bjsguess | October 06, 2008 at 01:32 AM
I believe the M's have a young DH who need AB's named Jeff Clement.
They also have a young OF named Wladimir Balentien playing CF for them, which I don't understand since his original position is RF, and Ichiro is much better at CF...
There is an opening at LF with the potential loss of Ibanez. And perhaps at 1B, unless the M's moved Clement there.
I say the M's go for it. With how bad the team has played this year, and how bad they could be next year, putting Griffey up at DH could draw more fans, and help them forget about how bad these M's are by reminding them of the good ol' 90's when they were good.
Posted by: Patrick | October 06, 2008 at 08:50 AM
Of course, this is all assuming that KGJ keeps his ego and check and agree on playing any position needed of him. He's not as stellar a fielder as he once was.
Posted by: Patrick | October 06, 2008 at 08:52 AM
Seattle for a farewell tour is really the only place that makes alot of sense. They can give him alot of ABs, really wouldn't be blocking anyone expect possibly Clement if they also got a 1B, and its the one place that I feel wouldn't rip him to shreds regardless of how he performed.
Posted by: schellis | October 06, 2008 at 08:52 AM
Clement should get AB's at C or 1B. He needs to play in the field - not DH.
Posted by: bjsguess | October 06, 2008 at 12:23 PM
I think most of this "griffey ego" thing is imagined and assumed. KGJ is very selfless and workmanlike, he just doesn't brag that way. He's very level headed compared to most superstars and his dad has helped him stay that way. He's cool. I hope he plays 2 more years.
Posted by: jbibbali | October 06, 2008 at 05:21 PM
Theirs no way Griffey plays 3 more years after watching play this year,he looks like he's at the end of his career...He's already said before he would like to return to the Mariners and end his career there and i think they'll offer him a 1 year contact to end his career there and to help bring fans to games.
Posted by: JT89 | October 07, 2008 at 02:43 AM