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Manny Ramirez gave a few quotes last night after the Dodgers were eliminated:
"I just want to go home and spend some time with my family. I want to see who is the highest bidder. Gas is up and so am I."
Manny on whether he wants to be in L.A.: "We'll see." Manny asked what he's worth: "I guess you got to talk to my agent now. I'm a five-tool player. That's me now." Hmmm...even Boras can't convince anyone Manny brings speed or defense to the table.
On the high end, a six-year, $150MM deal has been suggested for Ramirez. T.J. Simers suspects owner Frank McCourt would prefer to make a valiant effort and finish second in the bidding. Buster Olney believes the Dodgers are better suited signing C.C. Sabathia.
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Boras is about to fail big time with Manny. No one is giving Manny 6 years.
Posted by: solard | October 16, 2008 at 09:54 AM
If Manny were good at anything other than playing baseball he might have noticed that gas is DOWN.
Posted by: GravediggerHebner | October 16, 2008 at 09:55 AM
or find a way to unload jones...the ingrate, who said he'd only come back as a starter next year or ask to be traded, and then pick up manny the cash cow, (and run producer) and sign sabathia and peavy. DAMN...that would be sweet....(now i need to wake up)
5-man rotation:
Sabathia
Peavy
Billingsley
Kuroda
Kershaw
Starting 8:
c - R-MART
1 - loney
2 - dewitt
3 - ?
ss - RAFFY!!!!
lf - man-ram
cf - matty kemp
rf - 'dre
any thoughts?
Posted by: thinkblue | October 16, 2008 at 10:54 AM
Six years is pretty absurd. The Mets are better off going after Texieria if can't sign Manny for anything less than 6 years/$150M.
Posted by: sampsonite168 | October 16, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Yeah, I really feel for Manny here. He must have a hard time filling up the tanks on the 20 cars he owns. Poor guy goin through some tough times.
Trust me, whoever is interested in signing this guy, he only cares about #1. If you think otherwise, you're in for a huge dissapointment.
Posted by: Papelboner | October 16, 2008 at 11:06 AM
People. people, people.
Ever heard of aim high, settle low? You want to start off with a high bar, and then lower it as necessary. Everybody WANTS to be the head honcho, but most of these people settle for less because they have to.
Boras is posturizing, which is a smart business move. If a GM gives Manny the 6 year deal, that GM is a moron and it's all on him. No GM in his right mind will offer Manny 6 years. None.
My guess: Manny gets 28-30MM per for 2 years. Pretty reasonable, since A-Rod gets 26MM/yr and is on a 10 year deal, and when you're talking sheer offensive power, Manny is the better player.
Posted by: melonis rex | October 16, 2008 at 11:10 AM
And options for extra years.
Posted by: melonis rex | October 16, 2008 at 11:11 AM
Boras always aim high and burns his rear when GM's force his hand and make him settle low, like the Red Sox did with Dice-K did. Same with Varitek forcing his hand after '04 and forcing him to take less to return to Boston for the 4 year deal that currently expired, A-Rod kicking him out of talks between him and Yanks last year and now this posturing after Boras probably putting that stuff out to get all the Boras- Manny mess started this past summer going.
This off season might be crucial for the huge ego that is all Boras has going for him, many of his clients (other than tex) are aging anyway and on the way down and will not get anywaywhere near what he thinks, no matter how much garbage is pumped up in the press, like this 5 and 6 year rubbish being bantered about and 150M year hogwash. Anyone that does this is committing payroll suicide and should know that and deserves every last bit of faked injury they get, trotted out ground ball, 30 ft hike down to 1b on a groundball that they get
Posted by: johns | October 16, 2008 at 11:25 AM
It is not "burning his ego" when his clients settle for less than Boras initially said. It's called "good business practice", by both Boras AND the teams.
Posted by: melonis rex | October 16, 2008 at 11:43 AM
Does Boras fail if he gets less than 6 years? Nope...it is just like ARod and the "12 year" demand he was giving...instead he goes astronomical to get something still absurdly high. I don't like him, but if I was looking to make money and I played baseball for a living...Scott Boras is the way to maximize the cash. No way 4 years/100 million is a failure (if he can even get that)
Posted by: cycub | October 16, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Eh...this might sound out there, but i'd give Manny 6 years. This guy is so head and shoulders above any hitter in baseball not named Albert Pujols.
Six isn't ideal and is risky of course, but I don't think it's as nuts as people on this site are making it out to be.
Posted by: The_Bunk | October 16, 2008 at 12:32 PM
well coming from the stand point of manny, he figures that if AROD is signed til he was 42 why not me. remember we are talking about the best right handed hitter in the past 20 years. i see him getting a 5 year 100 mil deal from a team. its wont be out of the question. i think that manny has at least 4 years left in the tank.
Posted by: derman1984 | October 16, 2008 at 12:33 PM
"Eh...this might sound out there, but i'd give Manny 6 years."
I think you are the only one.
" i think that manny has at least 4 years left in the tank. "
Its not about the tank, unless you are referring to his head....thats what worries people...not his talent diminishing.
Posted by: Aduncaroo | October 16, 2008 at 01:20 PM
I fed Manny all those quotes.
Posted by: Scott Boras | October 16, 2008 at 03:08 PM
"Trust me, whoever is interested in signing this guy, he only cares about #1. If you think otherwise, you're in for a huge dissapointment."
Funny how he only cares about #1, yet has carried so many teams to major success and is credited with being an on the field hitting coach this year for the Dodgers.
""Eh...this might sound out there, but i'd give Manny 6 years."
I think you are the only one."
Hey, if he wanted 6x75, I would give it to him. It is like deferring salary. Years alone and salary alone aren't the issues, it is the combination.
Posted by: AA | October 16, 2008 at 06:32 PM