Six Years For Manny?

Honestly this has to just be posturing by Boras. There is just no way that any team is going to give him a contract until he's 42, considering that players have seemed to age much quicker since the end (I hope?) of the steroid era.

Manny will probably get like 4 years and $80-100M, anything more would be a mistake from the moment the ink dried on the contract. Not even because Manny will be awful by then. He's such an amazing hitter I still think he could be effective in 6 years. I just don't think there is any way those six years are all on a single contract. Who's going to give it to him? Really?

someone with time should make a blog called "lolBoras" that shows various comical pictures of Boras clients (Manny rolling around in LF, Kenny Rodgers shoving a camera, Eric Gagne throwing a baseball, etc.) with the captions being lolcat phrased Boras-isms.

any idea what kind of contract varitek is looking for?

I would love to see him come to cincy to work with Hannigan. With Ross and Bako gone they need a second catcher from somewhere

Que the hundreds of angry fans posting some or all of the following.....

"Manny for 6 years! Are you stupid!"

"Scott Boras is a stupid ******* who needs to be banned from baseball!"

"Manny Ramirez will ruin any team he plays on!!"

"Scott Boras is a d*** *** Piece of c**p greedy horrible for the game arghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!"

Guys. This is Boras doing his job. He is really, really good at what he does. He does not care whether you like him, he does not care what people say or think about him. His job is to get a ton of money for guys he works for. And he is really, really good at it. So don't waste time questioning Boras and his motives and voicing angrily that 6 years is just ridiculous. Everything Boras does has a motive behind it. Scribble is right. He is posturing, and doing what he does. It is nothing new.

Varitek has been quiet with what he is after, just like up until his last contract expired at the end of the '04 season.

He'll be lucky this time to get 2 years guaranteed with maybe an option is my guess and Rodriquez will have a rough time with that going by articles that half the Yank and Tiger pitchers didn't want to pitch to him, with him not wanting to catch anything off speed.

I don't think Boras is worrying too much about what we all think. The guy is a freakin genius. Sure he makes mistakes occasionally. But, if I'm a big league player looking for the most money possible I don't interview anyone else besides Boras.

I just can't wait to hear Boras give Crede his clean bill of health and how he is such a clutch post-season performer. Then some stupid team like the Giants will sign him to a 2/15 type deal and be shocked as he barely makes it out of spring training.

I haven't heard much about whether the Dodgers are interested in retaining Manny's services or not. What's the word on this front?

"Manny iz in ur outfeild...

...bein ur icon"

Really? Heyman sees the Jays as a possible destination? Likely not. The probability of them going after an aging slugger (Manny's turning what? 38?) after the failed signing that was Frank Thomas (Ok, so the Big Hurt did ok in his first year, but the wheels fell off after that, and what makes one think that Manny's numbers won't start declining any time soon?).

Heyman seems to have forgotten that the Jays have Lind/Wells/Rios as their OFs, and Snider's been called up already to be their DH (he'll battle it out for their DH-spot next year, I'm sure). Not to mention that their more important task is fixing that pitching staff of theirs, as Burnett's looking more like he'll opt out and sign elsewhere, Marcum being out all next year, and McGowan's inconsistency issues. As of right now, next year's pitching staff is looking like Doc, McGowan, Litsch, Janssen/Downs/ Purcey... Not a very inspiring bunch, and they'd be hard-pressed to repeat this year's pitching stats.

Manny to Toronto... Hah, highly unlikely. (Even if he'd be an upgrade in hitting)

That is, uninspiring after Doc, as the rest of them have issues.

And probability of them signing another aging slugger after the Big Hurt signing is pretty low, was what I meant to say.

Tim:

Boras "says or strongly implies a lot of questionable things"?

No kidding, LOL.

Red Sox Dynasty? Two wins in 90 YEARS is a dynasty?? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How quickly the (cough cough) "nation", forgets they were lovable losers only 5 years ago.

Good times. :)

jjyankeesfan2:

And your post has what purpose again? How was that relevent to this conversation even slightly?

Tell me, would you consider 4 World Series titles in a 6 year span to be a Dynasty? Yes? Because the Red Sox did that from 1912-1918. Does the man's name say "Red Sox Dynasty 2000s"? No. So good job at looking moronic.

As for Manny's 6 year contract idea, that's ridiculious. Manny will be lucky to get 4 years IMO, I think his exit from Boston will have a bigger impact on teams interested in signing him then either he or Boras thinks.

Scott Boras is pure genius. There is absolutely no way Manny Ramirez gets 6 years, but he's brought it the point where it seems like 4 years is a short term investment in Manny. At the start of the season we all would have laughed at that notion. That's all this is.

Whether the player is a future HOF like Manny Ramirez or not, no team is going to give a $150 million six year deal to a 36 year old player. The risk of injury for older players are higher, and Manny was out for a month or more in 2007 during the Sox pennant race.

Manny is lucky to get a four year $60 million deal in today's market, given the economy has taken a huge hit, or some deal that will pay up blocs years later.

He is also not going to the Jays. Given that JP Ricardi's head is on the chopping block and the Jays took a multi million dollar wash on Frank Thomas.

One Team that maybe interested in him if the price is right are the Mariners, they need an outfielder/DH, but they want to keep cost down.

I see only Manny signing with two teams, the Yankees or the Mets. I can see him signing with the Mets, and something happening to Beltran.

If any team give Manny a six year contract their insane...This guy will be like 43 by the end of the contact and the reason Bonds hit well in his 40's is because of Roids and who's to say A-Rod will still be good by the time he's at the end of his contract?Manny is worth $20 to $25MM,but for only 3 years at the most.

Manny is iconic, he deserves a 10 year deal.

Manny iz knowin what you r pitchen...

Before youz know...

Cheap ripoff of someone in here, haha, but oh well.

Manny will not get 6 years, but i will GLADLY go 3 years with a 4th year option, or hell, even 4 years if he just puts up .300/.400/.600 like he has the last decade and a half.

This five-six year talk is exactly just that by boras. He's trying to put mannys value at 6/150 because then when a team offers 3/75 he can pursue 3/90 or 3/100. Boras is just looking to do his job and get paid. I never blame boras even with a-rod. Yes boras is out of control, yes boras is raping teams left and right for money (especially the yanks), yes he says the wrong things, but in the end it is the player's decision.

Manny I have said before and I will say again, if he had done what he did this year without the "i'm not playing anymore" stage in boston I'd sign 5/125 in a heartbeat for this guy. He's not slowing down. He just wasn't trying in boston because he's manny and he doesn't have to try to put up all star numbers.

I guarantee however, that if manny gets 5/125 he wont be a sad manny and he will earn that money. the reason he was so cranky with boston is because he wanted a guarantee he would end his career there and boston said we have other priorities, we'll get to it when it comes. produce and you don't have to worry.

The reason for the rude exit was so boras got paid. nothing else. now that boras gets paid for his contract, it wont be an issue.

for those who don't know boras doesn't make a penny for the two "option" years he had with boston.

something like this...
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9108/t2borasapnb3.jpg

I understand that Scott Boras is not very well-liked because he is incredibly sneaky and cut-throat, but I guess in a way he is just doing his job.

By the way, how about Manny back to the Indians? I'm thinking that if he doesn't sign back with the Dodgers, he'd go back to the AL to DH. The Indians could then give Shoppach a full-time job, put Victor Martinez at first, put Matt LaPorta in left, and trade away the likes of Ryan Garko, Ben Francisco, Franklin Gutierrez (all obtainable and being paid little) for pitching help. Or, they could trade Shoppach while his value is high and put Martinez at catcher and LaPorta at first while making Manny interchange between left and DH.

And as for anyone gesturing that Travis Hafner, I wouldn't trust his services for next season at this point.

"I'm thinking that if he doesn't sign back with the Dodgers, he'd go back to the AL to DH."

I don't think Manny is happy as a DH and his OPS is actually lower than when in the field.

Yanks are looking at this kid from Jersey named Zach Aviles. If Cano is moved, this kid could come in and fill the spot. Keep an eye out for this move.