Odds and Ends: Myers, Crede, Giants

He threw his wife out of a bar in Boston... what the hell was he expecting? Cheering? What an @ss.

14 different witnesses saw him punch her in the face, and the police report states that the arresting officer saw severe swelling on the side of her face. But I guess since she didn't press charges none of that is accurate....There really isn't a place in baseball for guys like him or ambiorix burgos.

Boom, outta here.

I am not defending Brett and what he did was wrong to his wife. but this was a one time thing had hasnt happened again. yes i know one time is one to many. he is a headcase but when he is on that curve of his straight nasty and he can dominate a game.

What about a possible trade... Crede to the Dodgers for Pierre, with the Dodgers paying a portion of Pierre's bloated contract?

Joe Crede is one of my favorite players but I won't be disappointed to see him leave. He gave me the feeling the last couple seasons that he was more interested in his next contract than helping the Sox win baseball games. Good riddance.

hes a idiot, he rather blame the city, like boston turned him into a blood thirsty pitbull, and made him beat his wife. atleast he should take some responsibility for his actions, its the least he could do since he got away with it. guys like this give men a bad name, baseball aside

"Brett Myers never wants to pitch in Boston again."

Man, that's like O.J. Simpsons saying he'd rather not spend Christmas with the Brown family.

I'd be pretty hesitant to visit a place that wants to string me up for being a worthless scumbag too.

The Giants have to be the most boring hot stove team. It seems near impossible any interesting rumors come about regarding their prospective moves.

"Man, that's like O.J. Simpsons saying he'd rather not spend Christmas with the Brown family."

And we have a winner of the best zinger award.

"does anyone agree with me that the Rays will have to trade B.J Upton very soon?"

Depends, if their new found success translates into spending to keep all those talented youngsters. They already have almost doubled from their 2007 payroll. But still Upton needs to consistently show power in the regular season to get the big payday. So I'd say they'll have to address the issue in 3 years.

Yeah if the Rays moved Upton it would likely be for another established young player at a different position.

I think they should try and sign him to a long term deal now, while his apparent value is lower than it will likely be in a year. Even if his power never fully develops, he's Carlos Beltran with poorer defense, but better hitting tools and plate discipline. Worse case scenario he's an awesome leadoff hitter. He'll hold a load of trade value whether he hits for power or not. Although his value will surely skyrocket if he smacks 30 homers.

Pedro will go to the bidder who loses out on every pitcher that has been talked about for the last month with a incentive based deal. Has he said of any places of interest?

Kinda off topic, but does anyone agree with me that the Rays will have to trade B.J Upton very soon? he wil cost upwards of $15 mil very soon, and the Rays don't have that. Think about that bounty of players coming back to the rays. WOW.

Rumor has it that the rays are looking into a new stadium, and i think they are going to keep this core together cause longeria is locked up for a long time, price is as well i believe kazmir too. he would be the most expensive and this team isnt going away any time soon. it would be very smart to give a long term contact and keep this thing going with them

Call me crazy, and Im sure many will, but I could see the Cardinals making a run at Pedro. It became known that the Cardinals were well in the hunt for his services before he signed with the Metropolitans. When Pedro is healthy, he still has good stuff, but that's the catch, WHEN HES HEALTHY. The Cards have taken risks with oft-injured pitchers before and have been burned. However, I think if they lose out on Burnett, Lowe, Sheets, etc. and still want to make a big spalsh, they may consider Pedro. of course, Pedro may have to be willing to take less on his base salary and take a more incentive-laden deal, but that seems to be the Cardinals emo when dealing with these kinds of pitchers. I guess we will see what happens.

"Kinda off topic, but does anyone agree with me that the Rays will have to trade B.J Upton very soon? he wil cost upwards of $15 mil very soon, and the Rays don't have that. Think about that bounty of players coming back to the rays. WOW."

Not really. Look at the type of players who get large arbitration awards.

He's still one year away from his first year of arbitration, at which he shouldn't cost as much as Fielder/Howard would make in arbitration. There will be at least two years until a trade of him is even discussed IMO.

Although, locking up to a LT contract is the best thing the Rays could do right now.

Thanks, i just wanted do no what you guys thought about it. I agree yanksfan, that he will bounce back in terms of power, and become a HAnley Ramirez type, 30-30. just my take.

I dont know about anyone else, but Joe Crede to Milwaukee makes more sense than LA or MN. Doesnt he live near Milwaukee?

I see Pedro signing with the Nationals. They're the only team where Pedro would be an upgrade to their rotation.

"Makes no sense to have a right hand power hitter on your bench who can play LF/RF/DH. No sense at all. No sense having a strong bench. Zero."

It doesn't because Rivera is going to go for a starting or platoon job. Not a bench role. The Yankees have Nady to fill that position anyway. They also have too many corner OFs. Rivera would just add to that logjam.

How about Pedro back to the Dodgers as their 5th starter?

I can see Pedro going to San Diego, Seattle or Oakland. I can see him going to a national league team with pitcher friendly confines for a ballpark.

Martinez doesn't have the tools to be a triple crown winner, but he has the smarts and deception to still be a decent pitcher..

Pedro just has to stay on a mound. He has the stuff to win, and his command will be a good margin better this year, his second season back from shoulder surgery.

2005- 217 IP, 159 hits, 47BB, 208 K's, 2.82/.95, 145 ERA+. His stuff was no better then, then it is right now. He was sitting at 87 that whole season, with pinpoint command and a good breaking ball. He is actually throwing right around there still, if not a touch harder, the changeup is still a nasty pitch, and he still has a plus breaking ball. The only thing missing in 2008 was the command. That should be much better in 09. I would efinitely look to bring him back to the Mets as the 4th/5th starter on a low base salary, and plenty of backup plans. I think Pedro is poised for a bounce back year.

Josh and Jow Paw.-

You guys have Nady, Damon, Matsui, Cabrera, and Gardner, AND have a shot at signing Manny Ramirez or trading for Matt Holliday, yet you want Juan Rivera? Come on. You already have a log-jam in that outfield. Unless you're adding someone like Manny or Holliday, there is no need to waste roster space on a player like Rivera when you have Cabrera, Gardner, and even Austin Jackson.

Well their goes my idea of McGehee being in a package for someone.

RSD is Baseball Guru i meant

I think its time for Tim to bust out the banhammer.

See but with Baseball Guru, it wasn't as bad, because he was a Mariners fan. I much prefer a crazy Mariners fan over a crazy Boston/New York fan. Those simply aren't very special.

"Well their goes my idea of McGehee being in a package for someone."

Ha, like anyone would've traded for McGehee.

Phils, good point on Myers too. I always loved to hate him, and that added to it. Reading the story though (which I just read a couple hours ago), I do feel for him. Everybody has a couple of 5-10 minute spans in their life that they wish they could take back.

I don't know that I'd necessarily say Hamels over Lincecum (Tim's still very young and probably won't play a postseason game while he's in SF), but the silver lining of that is, if you're making the choice, you've got at least one of them, and that's a good place to be :-).

Seriously, congrats to the Phillies. I was sort of pulling for the Rays to start with (since to me beating the Red Sox means you deserve to win it all), but the Phillies were simply better on all counts this time around. I did notice that Lidge seemed to be getting a little shaky, a little nervous during tonight's game but he kept it together and pitched brilliantly. Nice trade there.

Also, take it easy on Myers. I don't know the story beyond what I just read from this article, but I see no reason not to give him the benefit of the doubt. It was a mistake, he knows it, and he hasn't done it since, nor does anything suggest that he will. If/when he does, then he'll answer for that. Until then, he's got his own guilt to deal with for hurting his wife, he doesn't need whatever we can put on him. Won't say the public backlash wouldn't have happened elsewhere, but Boston fans are definitely not the ones to have against you. I may be a Yankees fan, but both of our fan bases can be among the ugliest in sports.

-JM

nrmax,

agreed about myers and his 5-10 minutes he regrets happened on a national stage for everyone to see and judge, fairly or not. That's a tough one to un-do. As for Lidge he's been doing that a lot lately. He hasn't been completely lights out but he's always gotten it done. The first game against the Brewers was a lot closer. I kept fearing for his first blown save and expect it last night up until the last out. I would have liked for Hamels to have gotten the win and be 5-0 and the starter with the best record in playoff history, but I can't get greedy. And Utley is amazing. He always makes the right play. Not only the fake to first and throw to home play yesterday but remember the double play against the Dodgers where he dove to second to double up Ethier (was it ethier??), amazing!!

Oh and for the joker up above that compared him to OJ Simpson, really, are you kidding me? OJ killed two people and joked about it for years. Myers got wasted with his wife and made some mistakes, some serious mistakes but nothing near what OJ did. Were you there? All these people that claim that there were millions of people there that saw what happened. 20 years from now when idiots like you re-tell the story you never saw you'll say he beat her into a coma. Was what he did right, absolutely not, but he has been squeaky clean since and IF he ever does anything like it again then he'll be done for me, but everyone deserves a second chance in a situation like this.

''Pedro just has to stay on a mound. He has the stuff to win, and his command will be a good margin better this year, his second season back from shoulder surgery.''

I agree whole-heartedly with this. Pedro has always been a crafty pitcher and even though his ability to blow the ball right by guys is no longer there, he could still be effective. His season was chopped in half with that injury during his first start in Florida and he never got his mechanics back.

I'd consider (hence the word CONSIDER) giving Pedro a one-year, incentive-laden deal to come back to New York as insurance, with the expectation that he'd be a lot more effective than last year with a full year past his injury. He's a great clubhouse leader and I also think he took the loss of his father very badly as well.

And I like Joe Crede to go to San Francisco as well on an incentive-laden deal. With the debacle of Jose Castillo last year, the Giants could use a little more depth at third, and from what I know of their prospects there are really nothing coming through the pipeline at third.

And yes, as much as I hate to say it, I agree with NRMax in saying congratulations to Phillies fans. As much as it pains to say it, and yes I am wearing my ''PHUCK ROLLINS'' t-shirt today, but you guys deserved it.

"I think they should try and sign him to a long term deal now, while his apparent value is lower than it will likely be in a year. Even if his power never fully develops, he's Carlos Beltran with poorer defense, but better hitting tools and plate discipline. Worse case scenario he's an awesome leadoff hitter."

Well, I don't think he is Carlos Beltran unless his power fully develops AND exceeds expectations. I don't see him cranking 40 homers. I do see Upton as an ideal leadoff man, no matter how his power turns out. Kind of cut out of the Brady Anderson mold, with a better throwing arm.

"You are the same clown who defended Manny Ramirez for throwing down to the ground 64 yr. old Jack Mckormick and then standing over him and taunting him am I not correct."

Are you 12 or something?