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Astros Sign Mike Hampton

WEDNESDAY: The Astros are having a press conference for Hampton in about 25 minutes, implying that he passed his physical.

TUESDAY: Dave O'Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution says Hampton turned down a slightly higher offer from the Braves to be closer to his children, who are in Arizona.

MONDAY, 3:31pm: Ken Rosenthal says it's a one-year, $2MM deal with another $2MM in appearance-based incentives.  Hard to find fault in that.

2:44pm: According to FOX 26 Sports in Houston, the Astros signed pitcher Mike Hampton today.  He needs to complete a physical to make it official.  Hampton pitched for the Astros from 1994-99 before he was traded to the Mets.

Hampton sought a one-year deal with no option, so I imagine that's what the Astros offered.


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I am very interested to see the terms of this deal!

If it is cheap enough could be a good signing.

for the astros sake, i hope he came cheap

Good luck passing the physical Mr. Hampton. Great story if he comes back healthy and competent. Low risk, one year with no option so if the money is low it's a nice signing for the 'Stro's.

I can't imagine the price tag was too steep. It seems like a solid signing for a team in need of some starting pitching. Hampton's not exactly a stud, but, if healthy, he should be at least a decent #4...

This is how they expect to compete? with M. Hampton? While the Cubs are trying to add Peavy to their already good pitching staff.

nckdmss: Considering that a guy who is a #5 on most clubs was the Astros #2 in 2008 (Wandy Rodriguez), a healthy Hampy is most welcome...

I like it.

It makes me think the talk of Ed Wade not knowing what kind of budget he had to work with was smoke to keep Randy Wolf in the fold until he had this deal locked in. The Braves look like a solid landing spot for Wolf now, assuming Mike Hampton's taking his spot in Wade's rotation.

I like this signing a lot for the Astros. He adds stability and he is familiar with Houston. I knew that he was a good fit all along for the Stros and i am happy they made a deal. Should fill in nicely if Mohler doesnt have a season similar to lasts, Backe continues with his inconsistency, or Wolf signs elsewhere.

well this must be why they told Randy Wolf they were gonna slow down negotiations. I guess this is McClains way of replacing Wolf...cheap bastard...

Maybe they're trying to save money to work out a three-team Peavy deal, using ML-pieces (for the third team) such as Wiggington, Tejada, Bourn, or Pence...

ahh pageian beat me to the punch. mike hampton and team physicals dont mix well.

Nice signing houston, he'll fit right along side last years crappy trade for tejada.

way to get a return on your mega contract investment Braves F.O. We picked up a guy named elmer to potentially fill our rotation, but not hampton?

What? Why?

I like the signing a lot assuming it wasn't a big contract. I wanted him because if he is healthy he can be a #3-4, which would help a lot for the Astros who are in dire need for pitching. Maybe it will set up a spot for Sheets

Good sign if a highly incentive laden deal. he is one of the better walking wounded and a good bet to out perform some of the others of the injured class like pedro martinez.

NedCollettiClueless-Why was the Tejada trade a crappy one? He played 10x better than the previous SS we had and just gave up numbers, nothing of real value. The only one I was upset to see go was Patton(good friend) but he is a #3

One more reason that the Braves need Peavy...

While I like this signing, I caution such great optimism. Mike Hampton's success with the Astros is almost a decade removed and was posted in the pitcher friendly confines of the Astrodome. Not the hitter friendly Minute Maid Park.

WestCoastBias, there is NO way the Astros could be lucky enough to get the Padres to take the $13 million contract of Tejada for the $11 million contract of Peavy.

"I like this signing a lot for the Astros. He adds stability and he is familiar with Houston."

Did someone just say Mike Hampton added "stability" to the rotation??

I thought Mike was supposed to wait for the Braves to try and match any offer that was given? At least that was the impression he gave, sort of a respect thing from a team that spent millions on him while he sat. Well, apparently it doesn't look like he did, and if not, so much for loyalty, I guess!

pageian- Agreed. A 1 year deal, this is smart.

Mistyck- Wandy Rodriguez is NOT a #5 on most MLB rotations. Maybe a very small handful, but not many.

raider8284- Umm, this is MUCH smarter than resigning Wolf to a multi-year deal, which is REALLY stupid. Wolf also has injury issues of his own. Hampton has more upside than Wolf.

anybody know how good the schools are in Houston??? They must be pretty good considering he signed so quick.

Brian: In a way Hampy is showing loyalty...he's returning to the club that gave him MLB career...

And Phils: Houston schools are excellent...lol.

Melonis: Wandy may not be a #5 but he sure isn't a true #2 either, maybe a #4...if he could control his mound presence he has the potential to be a #2 or #3, but he blows up too often for that right now...

I AM THRILLED.

(Braves fan)

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3737502

ESPN says its $2 million plus incentives. But, it seems kinda suspicious that he didn't want anything, but a one-year deal, so I beware of this report.

NedColletti,

I'm finding it humorous that a Dodgers fan is talking about player acquisitions. How are Andruw, Pierre, and Schmidt working for you?

astrosfan76-

Great burn

Oh yeah, I'm thrilled too, but it's kinda strange he signed so soon, unless there were talks between he and the Braves that we just don't know about. I'm also thrilled because I'm a supersticious person and we've only won our division once since he's been with us. Wasn't it '05 when he signed?

brian,

i may be wrong but i think Colorado paid the largest majority of his ridiculous contract, so maybe he owes them the most. Yes the braves are the most recent recepient of his medical records but the Rockies have MORE records.

Heh, Maybe Hampy likes being near salt water...lol...

But seriously, if this is a move to replace Wolf in the rotation, it's a great signing as Wolf wasn't going to come cheaper than $10 mil a year and a multi-year deal. Hampy at $2 mil for 1 year works out great for the Astros who can still pursue Sheets or try to see if a deal for Peavy can somehow be worked out.

philsWSc..(whatever, booo)

Yeah, you're right, but it goes beyond just the dollars! It's deeper than that, because Bobby Cox, and his teammates rooted for him no matter what! They could have easily just traded him, paid that money they owed him, and told him to not let the door hit him in the ass on the way out, but that didn't happen.

If its really a base of 2 mil, with a ceiling of 5 or so...this is a very good signing for a team like Houston.

good deal, i guess. if he performs well

Mistyck-

I agree with your assessment on why he was signed over Wolf, but he brings that injury bug to the table. My only thinking is that signing him for $2 million saves money to go after Sheets and possibly another pitcher, and if Hampton gets hurt we still have Sampson who can fill in, especially if these two will be the only signings the Astros do(and I am even doubting signing Sheets after the brewers offered arb).

But we can all look forward to Drayton's "Championship" speech....

I was joking earlier when I said maybe he likes salt water, but, if you think about it, he was healthy and pitched well in Seattle, Houston and New York...all cities near oceans/gulf...

Phils, bulk yes, but not by much. And they ahven't paid him since 05. From Cot's:
* Colorado to pay $49M ($20M signing bonus, $8M in 2001, $8.5M in 2002, $2M in 2003, $2M in 2004, $2.5M in 2005, and $6M for 2009 buyout, which was converted to a signing bonus 11/02, eliminating club option)
* Florida to pay $23.5M ($7M of 2003 salary, $8M in 2004, $8.5M in 2005
* Atlanta to pay $48.5M ($2M of 2003 salary, $2M in 2004, $1.5M in 2005, $13.5M in 2006, $14.5M in 2007, $15M in 2008)

As much as I was going to laugh at this... only 2M isn't a bad gamble. There are much worse ways to spend money cough cough zito cough cough.

Wolf is injury prone too...

"Hard to find fault in that."

Here's one fault, Hampton already said he wanted to return to Atlanta, if the interest is mutual, so I call this report crap.

Isn't Wolf a type B too? If there is one thing Houston needs, its draft picks.

Everyone! When hampton makes his return to the ted, meet me in section 121 to boo this man!

Not a bad signing for the Astros

Rule of thumb on mlbtraderumors.com:

No matter how horrible or injury proned the player is, it's always considered a "good signing" by posters.

Not a bad pickup...He comes cheap and you gotta expect he's gonna try and perform and his best because he's looking to revamp his career.

start wearing purple,

WOW. I never realized how much the Braves were screwed by him. Ya he's done you wrong. I'd boo him too, but I'm from Philly so I boo everyone.

I haven't seen that Teetz1...over the years readers have panned many signings.

I think this was a good signing.... And Cheap, I mean he did stay healthier then Sheets the last month or so.

Now if Oswalt can keep sweet talking Sheets.. LOL ... I'm a little iffy about going after Sheets since the Brewers over used him and he opt out of fixing his forearm....

Not a bad deal at all. I'm a bit surprised the Braves weren't in on him at all - considering they badly need pitching.

I like the move a lot.. Of course, you can't put a lot of faith in Hampton making a lot of starts or putting in a significant amount of innings. But a reasonably low-risk deal for a team that can use some depth in the SP'ing department

"WOW. I never realized how much the Braves were screwed by him. Ya he's done you wrong. I'd boo him too, but I'm from Philly so I boo everyone."

I'm not laughing at him because I like the Braves... I dislike the Braves. I just laugh at huge contracts that crash and burn.

As an Astros fan, I'm also hoping that we can get Ben Sheets but after the Brewers offered him arbitration today and seeing as how he is a type A free agent, I doubt we sign him.

A Peavy trade is still open though. Valverde will definitely be traded and maybe Wigginton. Add the prospects from those deals with Hunter Pence and send them to San Diego for Peavy.

Good signing for Houston, but I'm with the other braves fans, I hope he strains his big toe and calls it quiets. On the oter hand I think this puts a lot more pressure on Smoltz to come back as a starter, oh yea and add two quality pitchers. If Glavine doesn't retire look for him to be a brave too, which I would rather have one of the young guns.

Great signing today for the Stros at only a $2 million base salary. If he doesn't start then at least it was only $2 mill. If he does well then he gets $4 million which also isn't an enormous amount. I doubt this means that they'll go after Sheets but I hope like no other that I'm wrong.

The appearance incentives probably kick in at about 20 or 25 starts which is worth $4 million he can keep the ERA at a respectable or low place.

It's crazy to say, but the Braves kinda needed Mike Hampton. Frank Wren better have some serious plans in the works or Braves fans will be calling for his head before the season even starts.

"A Peavy trade is still open though. Valverde will definitely be traded and maybe Wigginton. Add the prospects from those deals with Hunter Pence and send them to San Diego for Peavy."

If the Stros need to cut payroll by trading Valverde and Wiggington, how on earth do you think they can afford Peavy?

Here's some news to us Braves fans to get pissed at Hampton some more- Dave O' Brien says that the Braves actually offered more than the Astros did! Hampton chose the Astros because he has friends there.

Brian - You're right, that does piss me off. If Hampton makes a start at the Ted in '09, I'll be the guy behind Houston's dugout yelling obsenities and getting thrown out of the stadium.

I think security will agree with you and just tell you to spit on him next time!

Purple: Signing Hampy for $2 mil just freed at least $8 mil for the Astros by not signing Wolf...that $8 mil plus the approx. $17 mil that Wiggy and Valverde will make in arbitration allows the Astros to afford Peavy quite easily...only thing is the prospects that Valverde and Wiggy bring have to be good enough for the Padres...

"A Peavy trade is still open though. Valverde will definitely be traded and maybe Wigginton. Add the prospects from those deals with Hunter Pence and send them to San Diego for Peavy."

If the Stros need to cut payroll by trading Valverde and Wiggington, how on earth do you think they can afford Peavy?
because Peavy is fairly cheap this year and Tejadas $13 million come off the books next year and well as villarels money who isn't even in Houston anymore. I think it is more likely that Houston either has a plan for Peavy or goes after Pettite now since he will not cost a draft pick now. I know he said we wouldn't return, but NY isn't showing a ton of love right now.

The only way that this is a "fair deal" is if Hampton pays every cent that he receives(incentives and all) back to the Braves.

"Hard to find fault in that."

He had like four different injuries within the course of a single offseason. I'm willing to bet he was on roids in his good years, his body broke down when he went off.

Seriously, why?

"Purple: Signing Hampy for $2 mil just freed at least $8 mil for the Astros by not signing Wolf...that $8 mil plus the approx. $17 mil that Wiggy and Valverde will make in arbitration allows the Astros to afford Peavy quite easily...only thing is the prospects that Valverde and Wiggy bring have to be good enough for the Padres..."

This is all true, but you get rid of Wiggy, Valverde, and Pence, who is going to fill the gaps?? Blum is not an everyday 3rd base player, and your going to have to fork over 5 to 10 mil for a closer. That leaves right field? what then??

By the time you fill those gaps you will be above and beyond Wiggy and Valverde

Peavy or Sheets will be an Astro almost no matter what.


But one thing I don't understand...
WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE THE CUBS TRYING TO GET PEAVY FOR!!?
EVERY MAN ON THEIR PITCHING ROTATION HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE AN ALL-STAR!!! THEY REALLY PISS ME OFF!!! THEY'RE THE NATIONAL LEAGUE YANKEES!
BASEBALL NEEDS A SALARY CAP AND IF THE PLAYERS DON'T AGREE, THEN THEY CAN SIT THEIR WHINY @$$3$ ON THE COUCH WHILE THE YOUNGSTERS PLAY IT OUT!


Drayton McClane needs to sell the team to someone who can afford to put the best team possible on the field. Apparently, he can't. He's just a rich redneck that wanted to say he owned a baseball team. He hardly knows anything about baseball!
He always says that he tries to put a world series team on the field every year, but he's full of crap. We should have a strike in Minute Maid Park to where everyone walks out int he first game.

Sutton can play 3rd and or Johnson, Bogu can play the OF.... And Wesley Wright was said to be closer material, plus he was thrown into the fire plenty of time last yr and did fine.

Actually, if the Astros trade Wigginton and Valverde to Cleveland as has been talked about some, Andy Marte would be coming to Houston, so that's 3rd base taken care of..Blum and Marte can platoon if Marte's BA stays south of .275...Closer can come from within from the list of Nieve, Paulino, Geary, Wright or Gervacio. RF is the only place the Astros would have to get a FA for or they could use Erstad there...a rule 5 draftee for the OF is a possibility also...the Indians left Jordan Brown off their roster and the Rockies left off Chris Colonel and another outfielder off their roster. Colonel can play 3rd too..Plus, Bogusevic could have a Pence-like spring training and make the team...so there are options out there for the Astros that won't cost them a lot.

Exactly Mistyck. I've been hearing this exact trade for the past week. I think it's going to happen.

i have to think it would be so funny for the braves to trade for peavy and then his arm goes bad and is out for years at tens of millions, would be real funny, never ending cycle of wasted money in atlanta

I heard that Houston has an amazingly great school system out there.

"Nice signing houston, he'll fit right along side last years crappy trade for tejada."

Yeah because trading multiple pieces of value for an old bum like Tejada who provides no offense or defense, is just exactly the same as signing a once great pitcher to a low risk one year deal.

Good signing. The Astros can do something right.

"I heard that Houston has an amazingly great school system out there"

Not sure if your joking, but HISD's not highly regarded. The burbs, like League City, Sugarland, The Woodlands and Cy-Fair, on the other hand are all very highly regarded. Cy-Fair ISD has one of the sickest Sports Complex I have ever seen for a high school.

http://www.houstonarchitecture.info/haif/index.php?showtopic=5193

Yeah, Darin is right. I go to New Caney High School, the same High School Adam Dunn went to and it's a terrible district.
It's not a very nice district at all.

"Yeah because trading multiple pieces of value for an old bum like Tejada who provides no offense or defense, is just exactly the same as signing a once great pitcher to a low risk one year deal."

Who were the multiple pieces of value the Astros gave up? It was numbers, not great talent. The best was projected to be a #3

don't forget Conroe ISD Darin!!!

So the Braves paid how much money for this guy to not pitch, and he turns down a higher offer to leave them? He's a jerk, way to ditch the Braves

Teej....isn't the Woodlands part of Conroe ISD?

no, well kinda. 45 kinda seperates the woodlands and Conroe ISD. A lot of the Woodlands people go to Conroe for ROTC stuff like that.Really the only difference is the money and Conroe being on "the other side of the tracks". They are both pretty comparable as far as academics but Woodlands always OWNS Conroe ISD in sports.could be cause they are 5A or 6A now and Conroe is 4A district. Where you live around Darin?

teej,

The Woodlands HS is part of Conroe ISD. There's several HSs that fall under Conroe ISD.

I live on the southside for now, near Clear Lake.

I was only kidding. Mets fans joke about that all the time. Hampton left for Colorado on an 8 year deal and cited the schools as his number one reason. Colorado paid most of Hamptons contract, not Atl. Hampton owes nothing to anybody but himself and his family.

Getting Tejada was an awful move. He isn't good. Say what you want about the guys you gave up. You talk about how the best guy is a number 3 starter. Why would you give up a cheap number 3 starter on top of Luke Scott and others just to get an overpaid shortstop who is terrible both offensively and defensively? Even Luke Scott alone for Miguel would look pretty bad right now.

Honestly, even picking up Tejada's contract would have been a bad move if no players changed hands.

"Colorado paid most of Hamptons contract, not Atl."

Actually if you look it up on Cot's Atlanta paid pretty much the same as Colorado, they were completely on the hook for the last 3 years.

I'm in the minority and I don't see this as a good pickup. This season was Hampton's first in 3 years and he still only pitched 78 innings. He got hit around (1.423 WHIP) and going to a hitter's park won't help.

I'd be so pissed if I was an Astro fan. The franchise has deluded itself into thinking they can compete when they clearly need to rebuild.

"The franchise has deluded itself into thinking they can compete when they clearly need to rebuild."

Definitely won't disagree with you there. But I think the signing comes down to motive. If the Astros really think they got themselves a cheap ace out of the deal... they're joking. If they think they got a cheap #5 starter and brought in at least similar production to the more expensive Wolf, less silly. But yes, if the Astros don't do anything else... they're pushovers for a much more powerful Cubs.

This story completely infuriates me as an Astros fan. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/12/02/2008-12-02_yankees_watch_as_braves_make_pitch_for_a.html

We have one of the best pitchers in baseball openly stating a few months ago that he wants to be a Houston Astro. He even went as far as to talk up Drayton McLane as a good owner. Well now it appears that both the Cubs and Braves have ended talks with the Padres about Peavy and McLane still will not do a thing to acquire him. No, instead of that, he would rather sit around talking about how much money he is losing and how the economy is bad. We dont freakin care Drayton!! We know the economy is bad, but we also know that teams that have had good attendance such as the Yankees, Reds Sox, Angels, etc.. are still spending money. We had great attendance last year too. Make our team a championship caliber team, not a competitive one.

I dont want to hear that we dont have any pieces to trade, we do. Take Jose Valverde and trade him to a team in need of a closer for some prospects, add Hunter Pence to those prospects and flip them to San Diego for Peavy. Closers are the easiest position to fill.

If Drayton thinks he's losing money now, wait until next season rolls around and his attendance drops nearly in half because people wont want to spend their hard earned money on a 3rd rate baseball team who's owner doesnt care about the product on the field. Sure the Astros may sell alot of tickets, but that doesnt mean people will show up. If people dont show up, they arent buying concessions and souvenirs and that money isnt going into Drayton's pocket.

If we were to land Peavy, would more people show up to games? I have no idea, but its a safer bet that we will than if we just stand pat and keep the current team.

Jake Peavy is out there Drayton, and he says he wants to be a Houston Astro. Do something about it.

Here's a braves blog on the subject of the perpetualpuss Mike Hampton: http://www.whensidslid.com/

Hampton actually felt "indebted" to the Braves for their patience with him. If that's the case he should have pitched for the Braves for FREE in 2009.

I will be showing up at the TED just to boo this piece of crap....if he ever even makes a start for the Astros next year. BOOOOOOOOO

Brian,

I don't know any team looking to add significant payroll this offseason. Be a realist and understand that if 29 other teams are watching their payroll, it doesn't make McLane cheap for doing the same.

Mcullogh and College Park are CISD...anyhow i agree totally with you on the above Darin......

with the exception that he has been doing that for years as opposed to other owners. the only exception was signing Clemens and Petitte

Astros fans, you guys still have chances at signing Petitte & Peavy. How bout that for a top 3: Oswalt, Peavy, Pettite. Damn! As a Braves fan, I hope that doesn't happen though. I do think you guys could have the prospects + Pence, but Escobar, MLB ready pitchers + prospects from the Braves still seems like a superior package to anything else I've heard. Personally I've had it with Towers, but luckily I'm not the one who has to deal with him.

drphonic:

The Astros would have to deal Valverde and Wigginton to the Indians to have that shot. By sending 3 of the Indians pitching prospects plus Pence the Astros could land Peavy. Just not sure if the Astros will do that though...

For the people talking about CISD. It consists of Oak Ridge, The Woodlands, The Woodlands College Park, and Conroe High (I am a graduate of there). As well as 4A Caney Creek.

nrmax88- The reason Scott was included in there is because he had no spot in the Astros OF when we got Bourn. Bourn didn't work out too well this season, but he still was out of a spot and is too good a player to be a 4th outfielder. Scott is a good player, but I still wouldn't want him back for Tejada. I still like the trade. I am good friends with Patton and was sad to see him go, but he was the cornerstone of the deal. Albers was way to up and down. I liked Sarfante for the month that we had him, but there was a reason that MIL let him go. Tejada was such an upgrade over Adam Everett most people would still make that trade. He doesn't give you the D that Everett does(should have had multiple GGs), but he makes up for it on the offensive end. Granted there are much better SS, but I am perfectly fine with Tejada. The Astro fans that are upset over that trade are looking at it from the standpoint that they were they were going to get the same player that drove in over 100 year in year out for the O's and the A's.

H-Town: What is Patton's injury? A torn labrum or rotator cuff?

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