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Brown's Latest: Sabathia, Blake, Young

6:56pm: Ken Rosenthal has more on Blake after talking to his agent Jim McDowell.  Blake seeks a three-year deal, and the Twins and Dodgers are in the lead for his services.  The Indians have been less persistent, as they don't want to give him three years.  Brown wrote earlier that the Twins feel the same.

6:23pm: Let's take a look at the latest from Yahoo's Tim Brown.

  • C.C. Sabathia has had no conversations with the Dodgers in recent weeks.
  • Casey Blake opened negotiations with the Twins at three years and $20MM.  That's not a price the Twins are willing to pay, rightfully so.  The Indians have cooled on Blake as well.
  • Brown says teams aware of the Twins' outfield depth have been calling Twins GM Bill Smith about Delmon Young.


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3 years, 20 is a bit much for blake, but then again that's not even 7 mil per year. the 3 years scares me though. the fact that no one will give him that kind of money should probably push it down to 2 years, 14 million, with an option for a 3rd year.

Take a year and 6 million off and you've got yourself a deal Casey.

As for Young, I don't think the Twins will trade him. They wouldn't give up on a player after one year

Any possibility of the Angels being involved for Young?

Maybe a Wood for Young trade?

I know it is off topic, but what do you think the Twins would be looking for in a proposal for Slowey or Baker?

baker's not going anywhere. slowey is a legit 2 or 3 starter in the making, so it would take a lot.

i think the twin will in fact trade delmon, because they need to trade somebody and he'll get the most in return. he has a lot of upside and is cheap so i think a lot of teams will be in.

According to Rosenthal, the two main players for Blake are the Twins and the Dodgers, and a deal could be completed before Sunday.

Young for Wood- just hurled my chicken thank you.

No no no no no ... the Angels would at least have to give up Figgins, and we don't want him, WE WANT A POWER HITTER


Uhh Baker would cost the Angels ... well the Twins don't have any interest in any Angels players it would seem. Besides, neither of them are going ANYWHERE

Twins dont have many holes- SS and maybe bullpen. I would be willing to give up S. Rodriguez, another power hitting 2B/SS, along with Jepsen/Bulger/O'Day/Moseley and Wood for Delmon.

Would you have more interest then?

BTW, I would probably want a Minor League starting pitcher for more depth.

I wish the Marlins would trade for Delmon Young. Trade something like Dallas McPherson, Robert Andino, and like Anibal Sanchez or some other SP besides Johnson, Nolasco, or Volstad.

I'd expect Blake to be back with the Dodgers, considering how much praise he got from the front office last year, and to make the trade look a little better.

"Any possibility of the Angels being involved for Young?

Maybe a Wood for Young trade?"

That's an interesting idea. Wood would give the Twins some serious power potential, which is good considering that their closest position prospect is an OBP/speed guy in Revere. A lineup with Mauer, Morneau, Kubel, Cuddyer, Span, Wood, Gomez and Casilla would be interesting and young.

"I wish the Marlins would trade for Delmon Young. Trade something like Dallas McPherson, Robert Andino, and like Anibal Sanchez or some other SP besides Johnson, Nolasco, or Volstad."

What about Chris Coughlan and Dallas McPherson for Young and a low level guy.

The Marlins get a potential stud outfielder that they could deal if he broke out, and it wouldn't cost them anything with star potential.

The Twins get a potential everyday 2B that fits their mold of player, and would allow them to move Alexi Casilla back over to shortstop. Obviously Minnesota would have to deem Casilla's defense good enough for short though. The Twins also get a potential 3B option with some big power potential.

Tell me again why Young is so much better than Wood that you hurled your chicken?

In Delmons first two full seasons he has hit 290, taken a combined SIXTY walks, and hit a grand total of 23 HR's. His SLG % is hovering just over 400.

Call me crazy but a corner outfielder posting a sub 750 OPS isn't in high demand. And sure the guy has upside that could come in a boost of his BA and adding some power. But the walks will most likely never be a major component of his game.

I don't think it's stretch to assume that Delmon tops out at a 320 hitter, 370 OBP, and guy that hits 25 HR's. That's the best you can hope for IMO. That would make Delmon a very good OF, but nothing elite (unless he can boost that OBP north of 400).

Now Wood hasn't done jack in the bigs. He has been just awful. The only sign of life was September when he hit 4 bombs in 15 games. He has a grand total of 188 AB's under his belt.

In the minors the guy has just dominated. He's coming off this year where he hit 31 HR's in 395 AB's. His BA was at 300, he takes his walks, and he plays a premium defensive position (either 3B or SS).

Looking with rosy glasses, I can see a mature Wood hitting 275, posting a 360 OBP, and hitting 35-40 HR's.

Both players have been top prospects for all of baseball. Wood was the Sporting News Player of the Year and Baseball America ranked him as high as the 3rd best prospect in the game. We all know Delmon received similar accolades.

Delmon young is one year younger than Wood and has developed faster.

Frankly, from a projection standpoint I don't see much difference between the two. While Delmon's actual numbers look better than Wood's they are still a major disappointment. Among all LF's with at least 400 PA's Delmon Young's OPS was just ahead of GMJ and Juan Pierre (and the injured Carl Crawford). That placed him 21 out of 24 eligible LF'ers. Point is, Delmon sucks right now.

For me, I think a SS who can hit 35HR's with a good OBP is more valuable than a corner outfielder who hits for a high average but doesn't walk and doesn't hit many out of the park. That's the upside for both players and that's why I would stick with Wood.

/end longest post I have ever written

the dodgers haveing no contact with cc means nothing, until the WM. if they dont talk, then hes prob not a dodger. i could see blake signing with the dodgers, 2yr and player option(6.5per) he seemed to like la and la liked him

what would the Twins want from the Phils for Young?

Twins would need at least Utley and Hamels for sure for Young. He's gonna be the next Willy Mays

-Signed,

Delmon Young's Dad

Wood is unproven ... why would we want an unproven SS who in almost 200 AB's has terrible power numbers and can't MASH LEFT HANDED PITCHING.

Which is what we want. I'd rather have Sean Rod, he's shown more promise and he's younger, in just his rookie year, but they're not on my priority list.

As for the Phillies ... unless you give J-Roll then probably nothing ...

Yeah, thought so

Oh and ... Shields is probably the only guy the Twins would demand.

oh and for the last time the Twins should stay far, far away from Casey Blake. Don't be lured by the name recognition, Bill Smith! Sure he's white and over 30 and declining and "gritty" and "plays the game the right way," and only a marginal upgrade (if any at all) over what you already have and 10x more expensive, it doesn't mean you HAVE to sign him! Bill! Wake up!

"As for the Phillies ... unless you give J-Roll then probably nothing ..."

Some guys like Jason Donald, Carlos Carrasco, Kyle Drabek, Dominic Brown, Michael Taylor, Joe Savery and maybe Anthony Hewitt would likely interest Minnesota.

"Oh and ... Shields is probably the only guy the Twins would demand."

Maybe something like Reid Brignac for Young. I just don't see the Rays giving up anything big for Young, and the Twins won't give up on him for nothing.

"why would we want an unproven SS who in almost 200 AB's has terrible power numbers and can't MASH LEFT HANDED PITCHING."

OMG, almost 200 ABs! I must have overlooked that! Nevermind, this guy has no value and will never be anything!

May I mention that not only does 200 ABs prove absolutely nothing, other than the fact that he wasnt ready, those 200 ABs were very inconsistent because for the most part he wasn't playing everyday. But hey, as you said, with almost 200 ABs this guy doesnt have any value!

Twins and Indians both might be better off taking a look at Hank Blalock from texas and seeing if they can get him at a good price for 3rd base option for 1 year over paying Blake 20 million over 3 years, that's a lot of cash for him. Even Blalock's injury riddled past and 6.2 million seems better for 1 year than 20 million spread over 3 on pretty much non production period for Blake, when Blalock does produce well when he is available.

maybe the yanks could try and get Young. give up like kennedy for him straight up.

if by kennedy you mean cano, then sure i think that would be fine. the last thing the twins need is another pitcher.

Not a chance the Twins sign Blake for 3 years. 2 years max. The Twins seem to be really high on Luke Hughes

Delmon straight up for Yunel Escobar excites me a lot more than Wood, S. Rod, etc. Have seen it written the Braves want another bat - see if DY can develop there while Twins fill a major gap at SS.

I thought it was pretty evident that the Twins are not a re-building team looking for prospects, they are a contender looking to fill a couple of holes.

If the Twins trade Delmon Young, they will want a young, major league shortstop (or maybe 3B, depending on the Blake deal) and a solid right handed relief pitcher in return. They are not looking for more AA level prospects, they want a SS or 3B and a right handed relief pitcher who will be everyday players in '09.

And one more thing, Ron Gardenhire wants Casilla to stay at 2B, and isn't a candidate to moved to SS. Gardenhire has said over and over that Casilla has matured into a productive 2B and moving him to SS would not be in Casilla's best interest. I suppose if the Angels sent Kendrick and RHP to the Twins for Delmon Young, that might change their thinking.

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