Heyman's Latest: Furcal, Sabathia, K-Rod

Sabathia at less than 18mm per year. Who put something in Heymans coffee?

You know, if Zito had any ounce of integrity or felt anything, at all, like a man, he would pony up 4-5 million of his outrageuos contract to help the Giants bring Sabathia to Frisco. He may not owe the Giants organization that much, as they were stupid enough to sign him, but he certainly owes us fans SOMETHING.

CC could sign for 5/$110M and hit free agency at age 33 and get another big contract. That would be more than "Zito's $18M" (which is actually $18.5M BTW).

CC's next contract will almost definetly not be as big as the one he'll sign now. One of the best things about signing him now is that you're getting him in his prime years (28-32).

CC is not a top 5 pitcher in baseball.

Santana
Beckett
Hamels
Holliday
B Webb
Linecum

I would even take roy oswalt over him, perhaps peavy

At this point, CC is better than Halliday and Beckett.

In no particular order:

CC
Santana
Lincecum
Webb
Hamels/Peavy/Halliday

Holliday is not a pitcher...do you mean "Halladay?"

First off, rfro, I wouldn't be shocked if Cabrera accepted arbitration. And on a related note, if Kenny Williams hasn't signed a FA from another team in years, what makes Furcal the exception?

mike lee, Sabathia has been a more consistent pitcher than almost any of those guys the past 3 years. Plus, not a single pitcher in baseball had a better 2nd half of 2008, no one even came close...

metzfan,

how can you not have the NL Cy Young winner on your list. I understand Lincecum doesn't have nearly as much experience, but he is one of the most dominant pitchers in baseball.

Why would Furcal move to 2nd to play for the White Sox. Furcal is a pretty good defensive SS has a CANNON for a arm, why waste it at 2nd? That would be worse than having Arod move off the position for Jeter.

Lincecum doesn't make my top 5 either. Giants should sign CC and trade Lincecum for a king's ransom. They can fill a bunch of holes with very high end players, and still go into the season with a rotation of CC, Cain, Sanchez, Zito, and Bumgarner/Alderson waiting. I know it isn't a popular idea, but I don't care.

My top 5 pitchers in baseball are

1) CC
2) Johan
3) Roy Halladay
4) Brandon Webb
5) Cole Hamels

Guys like Lincecum, Peavy, Haren, Beckett, Shields, Lackey, Lester, are close also. Picking top 5 is very hard. All of the above are top 15 imo.

"Playoffs either make you or brake you, right now he hasnt proven himself in the playoffs."

By that logic you need to take Halladay and Lincecum off your list.

I'm sorry CC is a top 5 pitcher, who cares about playoff performances they don't matter unless you are in the playoffs. The last two years teams RODE CC into the playoffs. Mike Lee of the pitchers you mentioned only Beckett and Hamels have really enjoyed postseason success. Halladay and Linecum haven't even been there yet they are better pitchers than CC how does that make sense?

the picthers I mentioned havent sucked in the playoffs yet
sabathia has

he isnt a top 5.

Matt Morris is twice the pitcher Sabathia is! Proof.

Matt Morris
10 Postseason Series, 4.05 ERA, 73 IP, 73 H, 34 BB, 44 SO

CC Sabathia
4 Postseason Series, 7.92 ERA, 25 IP, 33 H, 22 BB, 24 SO

I would agree the most with your list, bravesfan.
but for what its worth (though not much, because this is a big "if") Harden is a better pitcher than any of these guys when healthy (again, when healthy).

I think his post was noting that postseason success is a pointless way to rank a picture.