Jake Peavy Rumors: Saturday

Kicking and Screaming to the Sox/Yankees... Interesting...

can't blame Reagins for asking, huh?

i'd LOVE to see them swing deals for both Tex and Peavy

Everyone hear that? Adrian Gonzalez is NOT available. Period. 100% Positive. So no deal will be expanded to include him.

Ok, now that that issue is out of the way...

Well more than likely, Peavy won't be kicking and screaming to an AL east time. It would probably be the Angels, followed by the Red Sox.

I just don't see the Yankees in the mix for him unless it's to drive the price up. I don't know if the Red Sox have enough to give the Padres.

I think at this point, Peavy would more than not accept a trade to any of the three clubs if it meant getting away from the Padres who are probably not going to be as competitive next season.

95% sure peavy is a yankee even with the dumb signing of burnett

Posted by: nyy

And who are the yankees gonna trade for peavy?

I think the padres reject any deal that Joba isnt a part of for peavy.

Peavy would be eaten alive by AL East hitters in AL EAST hitters parks - would love to see it happen.

95% sure peavy is a yankee even with the dumb signing of burnett

Posted by: nyy

Jake Peavy knows what awaits in the AL, and the Yankees do not have the pieces to get him..
They do but there not going to do it..

Hugues,Jackson or Montero, and another good piece..

I think the yanks might wanna consider givin up hughes for peavy, you get a guy whos been the ace of the padres, one of thes best pitchers in the nl, and give up an unproven pitcher that COULD turn out to be somethin. I deal built around hughes might not have to give up too much more also, like the Cubs deal.

92-93

I would take Joba over peavy.. just based on the fact i think he is the closer in 2 years(or whenever Mo leaves), unless he dominates in the rotation..

If you want Peavy, you better be ready/wanting to get rid of the WHOLE farm system. Towers...... AH he makes me hate him ALMOST as much as Scott Boras. They are prob best of pales.

"I just don't see the Yankees in the mix for him unless it's to drive the price up. I don't know if the Red Sox have enough to give the Padres."

Boston is LOADED with ML ready pitchers Bucholz, Masterson, Bowden, Bard (close) and has untouchable Lars Anderson a little over a year away all at AA+, with the 1st 3 all having seen majors duty. Boston has what the Padres need, many Boston fans just DO NOT want to give it up for what we see as something not required for a rotation that is already top notch, same with Anahein, since they would probably be having. g to give up a top dog to get him.

Yankees have a barren system above A ball, so yeah, not much, Jackson and a couple fair pitchers is about it, the Rangers, Angels and Boston, plus the true diamond..Rays are loaded, only they have no need of him truly either, nor can they pay Peavy as well.

Hmm, I don't see how this particular comment would be frustrating for rival GMs. You mean the Angels might possibly be interested in trading for the Padres' two best players who play positions where they have holes? GASP!

Now, if this were Towers telling people that, say, the Cardinals were interested in trading for Gonzalez, I could see how that might frustrate Mozeliak.

Peavy is an Ace, in the NL. If he does go to the AL, he's a decent #3. Don't get me wrong, I would still take him, but at what cost? I'd rather see him go to the Braves.

"Peavy is an Ace, in the NL. If he does go to the AL, he's a decent #3."

Wow you must have to wear a helmet and a lot of protection in that home they keep you in. A #3 in the AL... i don't believe there are words to describe the stupidity of that statement.

He pitches in a pitcher friendly ballpark, & in the NL. I'd like to see him try to win the CY Young in the AL.

LaLoosh,

agreed. That statement is ridiculous.

Who the offensive prowess of players like Nick Swisher, Melky Cabrera (or Mike Cameron if you get him), Brett Gardner or an injured Matsui, Posada? Ya teams are really scared of that.

He was the 2007 Cy young winner. and his era is regularly below 3.

I'm guessing that if CC had gone to the Red Sox you'd think he was a fat slob, but now he's the King.

I agree Peavy is not worth it. Why do think he wants to remain in the NL he knows he´s not better than a decent AL pitcher nobody would offer more than 10 mill a year.

Any AL club who trades for Peavy will look very stupid.

I would never call CC a Fat slob, regardless where he wound up. I am never comfortable with that line up either, you think Hal or Cashman is? Wait & see wise a$$

ok so you're basically admitting you contradicted yourself, OK.

Wonder how you think Hamels and/or Lincecum would do in the far superior AL.

My guess is they'd BOTH be the aces of any staff in the AL East outside of Toronto.

"He pitches in a pitcher friendly ballpark, & in the NL. I'd like to see him try to win the CY Young in the AL."

I love all this Peavy bashing. For some reason he isn't worthy of the Cy Young he won. First off, Peavy has averaged over 200 strikeouts over the past 5 years. Second, the difference between the NL and AL isn't as big as you all make it out to be. Yes, it's more difficult to pitch CGs in the AL because of the DH, but how many strikeout pitchers keep their pitch count down in either the AL or NL enough to throw CGs?
As for the Tigers taking on Dontrelle Willis, in case you forgot, they also got Cabrera in that deal. Something tells me they were only going to get Cabrera if they took Willis.
And lest you forget, Johan Santana went from the AL to the NL last year, and his numbers were pretty similar to his 2007 numbers (where he pitched the same number of innings). He also struck out less hitters than he had in any of his past 4 AL seasons.

I'd like to see him try his stuff against the Red Sox, Angels, Rays & YANKEES on a Regular basis. His ERA would probably be around 4-5.

Posted by: theBabe666 | December 13, 2008 at 06:23 AM

THEN YOU SAID:

I am never comfortable with that line up either, you think Hal or Cashman is? Wait & see wise a$$

SEE! CONTRADICTION.

and i don't even have to resort to namecalling.

And he wouldn't be the 4th on the yankees. He'd be the second at worst behind CC. He's better than Burnett and Wang right now and its possible that in the future Chamberlin will be better than Peavy but he hasn't pitched a full season as a starter yet so you can't say that.

You do realize that Line Up & Rotation are Different Baseball Jargons You Moron! I was talking about the Yankees Offense you Yankee Bashing D0uchebag!

"I never said anything about NL pitchers can't cut it in the AL. I was only talking about Peavy you D0uche! If Peavy was on the Red Sox right now he'd be their 5th starter, & on the Yankees he'd be 4th!"

Peavy>Beckett>Matsuzaka>Lester>Wakefield
CC=Peavy>Wang>Burnett>Joba

I really used to love this website when the 13 year olds didn't know about it.
It seems there are less and less knowledgeable baseball people.

LaLoosh you Moron, let me break it down for you. CC won the Cy Young in the AL, Wang won 19 games twice, Burnett won 18 & dominated down the stretch. So if he were a Yankee right now he'd be 4th!

Peavy's stats are inflated by Petco, but his ground ball rate is pretty high. Peavy wouldn't be a 4-5 ERA in the AL. He might be 3.25ish-3.90ish, but probably somewhere in between.

I also don't think Peavy will go to the AL. I think he's going to the Braves or Cubs. If the Braves miss out on everyone, then they'll probably resume talks. The Cubs could go get the lefty bat that they want and then resume talks.

New here- Tired of reading a lot of the aggressive comments, and frankly, I'll try to put some logic into this. I no longer see the value of J. Peavy as I did even a week or two ago. Let Boston or the Angels have him. We have our pitching, this is a prime opportunity to move in an grab Texiera for a deal. Match an 8/160 type of thing. Manny is a back-up on a 3yr/50 or 55. We had $88mm off the books, and easily $35mm + next year. We've actually only spent about $39mm to this point. All things considered the Yankee payroll even for a short period is less than a few clubs. Yankees trade for Nady and Marte was brilliant, the Swisher deal, fantastic, they signed Sergio Mitre for like $1mm and now CC and AJ. If we could park the likes of a Matsui or Igawa somewhere (Igawa more so) I think you could easily say Cashman is doing a terrific job. Like I said, I'm new here, but I'll respond more later and put a lot of the Yankee haters back in their box. They need perspective. I cannot believe the level of incompetence from some people. Been going to Yankee games since I am like 3, and I credit the Yankees that every year they entertain. They pay to play. Dare we use logic on this forum.

Sox don't want no part of him, Masterson will post a better ERA than Peavy would at league minimum wage.

Peavy is aterrible idea when factoring in what you have to give up for a guy who in the AL east will be very average and far from an ace.

I can understand if you support an NL team you tell yourself that the NL is up to par but it is certainly not.

AL teams should just say no thank you to any trade for an NL pitcher when you have to give up valuable talent.

"theBabe666,

please stop while you're way behind. Listen I never said the Yankee lineup was weak. I just incinuated that it can be pitched around, which, IMO it can if Matsui and Posada aren't healthy and back to their pre-injury form.

CC to me is right with Peavy but Wang has never had an ERA under 3.5 while Peavy's had 4 years under 3, and Burnett before last year never had more than 12 wins in a season. Ya he's better than Peavy. RIGHT!"

It's kind of hard to pitch around

LF-Damon
CF-Cabrera or RF-Nady
SS-Jeter
3B-Rodriguez
DH-Matsui
1B-Swisher
2B-Cano
C-Posada
RF-Nady or CF-Cabrera

And Peavy isn't on the same level as CC. CC won the AL Cy Young. Peavy won the NL Cy Young. Peavy pitched in Petco. Peavy's good, but not CC good.

Beckett came to the AL EAST.

I agree Johns.

More teams should be thinking about the Rays starting staff anyway. They are the best young staff in baseball. If Price comes through they will be very tough. I dont think its about Yankees as much as it is about Tampa.

"AL teams should just say no thank you to any trade for an NL pitcher when you have to give up valuable talent."

That's not true. Plenty of NL pitchers would do wonderfully in the AL. Lincecum, Hamels, Zambrano, Cain, Lowe, and Smoltz to name a few.

thebabe666. i agree with you. peavy should be 3 at best with the yanks. maybe fourth. cc, is the better of the two. burnett has been lights out on al east. and wang has earned it. n y in the world would anyone even talk about trading joba for peavy? thats the stupidest thing ever

San Diego wants the best young arms on the teams he's dealing with, Yankees will never give their best prospects up, especially if any of these signings go on the DL, for any length of time. Lets face it, it happens to all the teams.
I can see the Red Sox doing this. But I thought he did not want to pitch in Boston.

"Wang won 19 games twice"

theBabe666
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Wang won 19 games twice with an offense that scored over 900 runs each time.

When are people going to start realizing that you don't judge a pitcher by wins??

Or should we consider Wakefield to be as good as Burnett????

Last 5 seasons:
Wake: 62Wins
Burnett: 57Wins

Wang now is what he always should have been.... a #3 or #4 on any other team.

xycosis, i agree that u cant judge a pitcher by wins. u gotta look at the era n whip and other things. but lets not forget it was wang n aaron small n chacon that saved the yanks a few seasons back.

"kicking and screaming" to the AL? Give me a break.

I doubt the Red Sox would get involved unless they thought they could get him at a relative discount (prospects-wise).

Since you are such a stat freak, on those 2 seasons that Wang won 19 Games. Did you bother checking how much run support he got from the Yankees offense? Then if 900 Runs a year is the reason why he won 19 Games, then shouldn't the rest of the rotation have 19 wins each? Xyco

I think with the bidding war that is going to start with Teixeira Theo might surprise Sox fans and get a pitcher like Peavy.
Could be wrong but Theo Epstein likes doing wierd stuff like this.

So how about explaining the 900 runs per game gives you 19 wins a season? Bong water doesn't count as Beverage Hippie

I think the Yankees should get Peavy because they have Robinson Cano, Phil Hughes, Austin Jackson, Ian Kenneday, Brett Gardner, Joba(mostly untouchable) they have the major league ready players but they lack low a prospects with only Jesus Montero which is a catcher but scout told people that they should have a position change in the future

Are you dense?!?

A pitcher that has an offense that scores over 6 runs a game behind him will get you 19 wins.

Wang's ERA at 06/07 were both under 4. So if what your saying is true, with run support like what he had, shouldn't he have won more than 19 Games twice?

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Please explain to me why all these pitchers didn't win 19 games in 2007:

Guthrie
Meche
Buerhle
Kazmir
J. Santana
Bedard
Haren
Escobar
Verlander

They all had an ERA lower than Wang.

Keep drinking that Kool-aid.

Who has the best farm system and best major League ready players???

Yankees or Angels?

Tell me who's dense....

If you are going to read stats from a baseball card perspective, like from what you are doing right now. Wouldn't you think with about 30 starts those years, & the numbers you gave, shouldn't he have won more than 19?!

I wish Jake Peavy was traded to Atlanta when the peavy sweepstakes started because Atlanta give up Tommy Hanson, shortstop ready Yunel Escobar, outfielder Gorky Hernandez, Jo Jo Reyes or Charlie Morton or low a pitcher or Steven Marek

BigPadreFan, The Braves were NEVER offering Tommy Hanson to the Padres. That was the hold up to the trade going through. And now the Braves will not trade Yunel Escobar because they traded their only other young shortstop (Lillibridge to the White Sox in Vazquez trade).

"BigPadreFan, The Braves were NEVER offering Tommy Hanson to the Padres. That was the hold up to the trade going through. And now the Braves will not trade Yunel Escobar because they traded their only other young shortstop (Lillibridge to the White Sox in Vazquez trade)."
Didn't I tell u BravesAllTHEWAY I told u "I wish!!!"

It would take a lot to for the Yanks to trade for Peavy, Hughes, Kennedy, Melky,Cano , lord knows what else.
The Yanks have a good hitting team that lacks chemistry and can not hit in the clutch. It might be possible that the Yanks will trade for Cameron and could also sign Manny and then trade their extra outfielders (Matsui and a few pitchers and prospects) for Peavy. Kind of a long shot..

how about

"I'm Ron Burgundy
Go F yourselfe San Diego!"

Again with just looking at Stats like we are f@ckin' playing X-box. If I were to agree with you on that useless $hit, then you have to agree with my point that Peavy did it in a Pitchers Ballpark, & on the NL! & Wang did it against teams like the Angels, Sox, Blue Jays etc. Plus I would never concede the fact that I would rather have Wang on my team instead of Peavy. Try putting stats on people who have the Mindset plus Balls to pitch in NY!

I never said ANYTHING about Peavy. I just pointed out your useless $hit stat about Wang's Wins.

To which to never explained why the other pitchers haven't won.