Phillies Rumors: Moyer, Lowe, Burrell

Don't think Lowe is really interested in Philly and I don't think Philly is really interested in him, the report about their interest in him as a ploy to drive down the cost for Moyer is more accurate but it don't seem to be worker especially at JM's age hes not young he has been through this many times and knows what he wants especially this close to retirement it is time to pad the wallet.

This has nothing to do with Phillies but it sure is funny how a year and a half things dont really change or maybe it just took that long to work out a deal surrounding the mannyficent slugger and if im not mistaken at the same time there was the whole three team trade buzz that sent Bay to Boston and Ramirez to LA

By Tim Dierkes [November 30, 2006 at 9:43am CST]

Found via RotoWorld - Curt Schilling yesterday confirmed that Manny Ramirez "wants out of Boston." So that's one roadblock out of the way - at least the does in fact desire a trade.

Meanwhile, Gordon Edes of the Boston Globe has a full update. He expects that Manny is going to want more money whether via his options exercised or just a contract extension. Theo Epstein is mum, but Edes says that the Sox have not spoken to the Dodgers on the topic. Edes mentions that the Padres are interested.

Murray Chass at the New York Times brings up the Mets, Giants, Padres, Rangers, Phillies, and Orioles as the suitors, naming Baltimore as a good fit. He says that last year the Orioles tried getting Jon Papelbon in a Manny deal and couldn't pull it off.

Finally, from Buster Olney this morning in his blog:

"Heard that the Red Sox are kicking around specific names in their trade talks for Manny Ramirez, and that they feel they are going to get a good deal for Ramirez -- if a deal is completed. To reiterate: If the Dodgers decide they want Ramirez, they will almost certainly get him because they have the most to offer."

must be talking about the buccos? other wise 1 world series against the rays doesnt count.

UtleyFan, the ownership clearly doesn't want to give Moyer a modest raise.

If they were willing to do so, they would have offered arb and thus had the chance to recoup picks if some team does blow him away, or if he retires

Instead they are daring him to shop around for a better offer than what he made last year. It's a gamble...if they do bring him back they'll have saved money they could have given up in arb. But if he signs elsewhere it would be a horrible decision IMO

Sorry, I meant 2008 numbers.

I like Hairston, but not as part of an OF platoon. I like him taking Bruntlett's super utility spot

I think it would be a good business move for Omar to swoop in and offer Moyer a 2/20 deal and see how he responds. There are a few reasons why I think they should. Moyer is old, but I don't worry about him getting hurt with his style. The Mets would no longer have to face him, and he has owned the Mets in the last 2 years, beating them multiple times in big spots. Jamie Moyer also owns the Florida Marlins bigtime, the team that has given the Mets the most problems the last two years, even more so then the Phils. If he had success in Philly, he should do fine in a much nicer park to pitch in. He would not cost a draft pick for the Mets, he could fill in the number 4 spot in your rotation. You can then bring back Pedro Martinez as your number 5 guy, with Jon Niese waiting in AAA incase of an injury. Or, you could bring back Oliver Perez and have Jamie Moyer in the back end of the rotation, which would give you 3 lefties to throw at the Phillies. While doing all of this, you take away a key part of the Phillies success in the last 2 years. I don't see a downside to offering this guy a contract. If you can't beat'em, sign'em.

Maybe, maybe not. Couldn't hurt to try. Seems like if all he cared about was staying home in Philly, he would have signed. If the Phils are offering 2/16 and the Mets 2/22 then who knows. You know A-Rod was a Met fan right? I'm just saying, you are probably right, but it couldn't hurt to try.

I don't understand Amaro's approach to the LF situation. I agree it shouldn't be a priority, but if they go into the season with a Jenkins/Mayberry platoon in left then they are in trouble.

Still saying not offering Burrell arb was an all-around bonehead move.

How crazy would a package deal involving Jason Donald and Lou Marson going over to the Royals for Zach Greinke be?

I like all those guys, so I would hate to part with any of them, but it would definitely be interesting!!

Rather add Felipe Lopez than Punto though...