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3:26pm: Ken Davidoff has a different opinion on the subject of Manny's future in New York, as well as a couple of other interesting free agent names. From his Sunday update:
"I would not bet so much as a penny on the Yankees acquiring Manny Ramirez, Ben Sheets or Mark Teixeira. Andy Pettitte can come back, and Mike Cameron will come aboard if the Brewers take Kei Igawa. If deals involving those two guys can't happen, then maybe a starting pitcher/centerfielder in those price ranges (one-year investments for about $10 million) will wind up in the Bronx. But that's about it."
9:21am: The New York Post's George A. King III reports that if the Yankees can't get Mark Teixeira, they're "right there on" Manny Ramirez.
"If they pass on Teixeira, the Yankees will try and bolster a sagging lineup with Ramirez... And to clear some money, they might entertain offers for outfielder Xavier Nady, who made $3.35 million last year, is arbitration eligible and a free agent after the 2009 season."
The article mentions a three-year deal despite Scott Boras seeking five. King suggests Jermaine Dye is another option; however, Dye has the Yankees listed as one of six teams to which he would veto a trade.
This article was updated by Alex Walsh, who can be reached at alexander.walsh@gmail.com.
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manny will play so hard for the yankees when facing the boston red sox.
Posted by: beastOftheEast | December 14, 2008 at 11:24 AM
Dye for Hughes and Melky as a throwin. Dye doesnt want to go into a trashy yankee organization tho
Posted by: ballerwhiteboy | December 14, 2008 at 11:25 AM
Im sure they are going to land either Manny or Tex. They Yanks aren't stupid to let that production between Giambi and Abreu go unfilled. Manny Hitting behind Arod would be epic. Arod would get nothing but a buffet full of fastballs. I think Manny has 2 good years left
Posted by: Chubz@postgamepub.com | December 14, 2008 at 11:25 AM
i...HATE...the Yankees. I'm not a Red Sox fan, but MAN...it's just unreal the amount of money they spend. LOSERS.
Posted by: squid92 | December 14, 2008 at 11:26 AM
Would the Yanbkees trade Nady to the Reds? They NEED a Right-Handed Outfielder...what kind of players would interest the Yankees?
I'd send them Bailey, or Thomspon.
Posted by: GmblngPtchr20 | December 14, 2008 at 11:28 AM
why would we trade nady, what is he going to make like $6M id rather trade matsui or damon
Posted by: Dominatio | December 14, 2008 at 11:28 AM
I don't think there's hatred for Boston. Manny wanted to move. I think Manny will perform against whoever he plays. However, a lot of the youngsters in Boston (Youkilis, Pedrioa, Papelbon) didn't care for Manny's antics and spoke out against them. I think if anything those are the guys who are going to be really fired up. Manny will be Manny as he always is. He will walk around the bases, make bloopers in the outfield and smack the hell outta the ball.
Posted by: Santana/Beckett FTW | December 14, 2008 at 11:29 AM
someone needs to fire G King.. this story is ridiculous..
Posted by: dapoktan | December 14, 2008 at 11:29 AM
i love the yankee hate, did you think Boston's grip on baseball was going to last that long? Gotta pay to play
Posted by: Chubz@postgamepub.com | December 14, 2008 at 11:30 AM
the George King article isn't made up, it's been reported here in NY for a couple of days now
Posted by: Chubz@postgamepub.com | December 14, 2008 at 11:31 AM
@squid92..
would you rather the Yanks go into the season with a rotation of Wang and Joba?.. I doubt they can make 162 starts between the two..
Posted by: dapoktan | December 14, 2008 at 11:31 AM
Its funny how people keep saying its unreal on the amount of money they spend, when all this money is coming off the books AND they will have a smaller payroll than last yr.
Posted by: Matt-LI | December 14, 2008 at 11:32 AM
I wouldnt trade Nady or Damon, I would move matsui, hell i'd pack for him. His knees are shot. It's a shame he was one of my favorites
Posted by: Chubz@postgamepub.com | December 14, 2008 at 11:32 AM
: beastOftheEast but what about the other 140 times dont get dye get tex put swish in cf more atheletes and better tyeam
Posted by: yanksfan4ever | December 14, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Here is food for thought, they have about 40mill coming off next year too. So they could sign Tex instead of Manny. Their projected revenue for 09 is absurd, between 600-800million. Thats with a in the crapper economy
Posted by: Chubz@postgamepub.com | December 14, 2008 at 11:34 AM
By the time the yankees are done there will be no remaining players from the 2008 roster. except Arod of course
Posted by: Reality Check | December 14, 2008 at 11:34 AM
Yankees should definitely pursue Manny Ramirez. I heard rumors that he would be their RF so i guess their going to sacrifice offense for defense if thats the case. Xavier Nady would be a welcome addition to Citi Field. Hopefully the Mets put out an offer for him...
Mets:
Xavier Nady OF
Yankees:
Bobby Parnell SP
*Crappy Reliever*(insert name here)
one fill in prospects similar to who they gave for Putz...
Posted by: Rolling{Night}Hawk{09} | December 14, 2008 at 11:34 AM
Haha when was the last time the Yankees had to dump a $3 mil salary to accommodate a player? Like that $3M is gunna make a difference in the end...
Posted by: metzfan22 | December 14, 2008 at 11:35 AM
I highly doubt we go for Tex now that we got CC and AJ. I just don't see the Yankees shelling out another 160+ Million contract this offseason. Manny or Dunn (though we haven't heard anything about him, just saying), is more realistic at this point from a financial and time committment standpoint.
Posted by: Matt-LI | December 14, 2008 at 11:36 AM
Mets would never trade Parnell for Nady. They are enamored with him, they wouldn't trade him for Putz, or anyone else. No shot they trade him for Nady
Posted by: metzfan22 | December 14, 2008 at 11:36 AM
What's more absurd is the fact that they will probably have a payroll close to 200 million again while everyone else won't even reach 150. Of course, that would still be "less" than their previous total of 209 million from 2008.
Posted by: SierraM | December 14, 2008 at 11:38 AM
Now that Joe Torre is no longer managing the Yankees, there's a better chance of Manny playing there.
I honestly have my doubts as to whether or not the Yankees would let Manny actually play and be the way he's happy. The dreads would have to go for sure. That's just not the Yankee Look.
Posted by: peterherman | December 14, 2008 at 11:39 AM
Actually Chubz they are having a hard time selling corporate boxes. here read this.
http://www.e-sports.com/articles/2218/1/MLB-is-no-longer-recession-proof/Page1.html
Everything is too expensive. companies are cutting back spending and the Yankees are asking for multi-year commitments on seats that they just cant afford to give out right now. If they have to drop their asking price for these to sell them, the profit margin won't outweigh the cost of the new stadium and its upkeep.
Posted by: Santana/Beckett FTW | December 14, 2008 at 11:40 AM
Who cares what the Yankees are spending? Do you see any other teams lining up for Manny? The other day he was whining cause no one was interested.
Posted by: CitizenSnips | December 14, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Why dont they keep Nady, he is a great hitter, keep Nady trade Matsui or Melky or both. Nady is younger and I think can be very useful to the Yanks. Manny can DH basically.
Posted by: TripleHHH | December 14, 2008 at 11:43 AM
yes arod will be back but also jeter will get new contract he is heart & soul of the yankees
Posted by: alan | December 14, 2008 at 11:45 AM
why would we trade nady, what is he going to make like $6M id rather trade matsui or damon
Posted by: Dominatio | December 14, 2008 at 11:28 AM
After spending 240 million on 2 people (unless fatty opts out) and the possibility of spending 80-200 million more on 1 more player you are really acting like money matters? Really? Seriously?
Posted by: Ivdown | December 14, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Everyone knows the Yanks had a ton of money off the books, but it's just annoying seeing them go after all the best free agents and having a realistic shot at signing them all if they want to. They may be good for a year or two, but once these guys age, they'll be stuck with all these huge deals like they were this year.
Manny for 2 years might work though, and they needed to pick up CC and another pitcher. But they're beating the system by signing all the type A free agents, and if they sign another, the team will just get a sandwich pick and a lousy third rounder. Not fair at all.
Posted by: bigpat | December 14, 2008 at 11:48 AM
lol.. since the yanks spent 240 mil on 2 players.. they can and shoult spend another 160+ on another?.. what kind of reasoning is that?
Its not like I spent 4 bucks.. i might as well spend another 2 bucks..
Posted by: dapoktan | December 14, 2008 at 11:49 AM
Dammit! If the freakin Yankees get CC AND Manny I'm gonna play Russian Roulette by myself!
Posted by: Furrski | December 14, 2008 at 11:49 AM
It says in the article they would shop Nady's name around but i do agree with you that from a Yankees stand point Hideki Matsui should be the one traded. As a Mets fan coming from a Mets standpoint i would love to have Nady back on the team he was one of my favorite players and i was upset when we traded him. He would be a welcome addition in Citi Field.
Yankees "2009" Lineup
LF Johnny Damon
SS Derek Jeter
3B Alex Rodriguez
DH Manny Ramirez
RF Xavier Nady
C Jorge Posada
1B Nick Swisher
CF Mike Cameron
2B Robinson Cano
Posted by: Rolling{Night}Hawk{09} | December 14, 2008 at 11:49 AM
dammit i liked nady i wish we could trade damon or matsui but oh yea they have no trade value.
i would just put up with damon in CF for 1 more year. matsui in LF nady in RF manny DH
Posted by: Serjicalstrike | December 14, 2008 at 11:50 AM
Who cares what the Yankees are spending? Do you see any other teams lining up for Manny? The other day he was whining cause no one was interested.
Posted by: CitizenSnips | December 14, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Yeah, thats because his demands are so outrageous only one organization is ret*rded enough to actually give him 4 or more years at the 30 BILLION dollars he wants.
The Dodgers gave him a good offer of 2-45 with a 15 million dollar option for a 3rd year. Lets see what kind of production he is putting up in 2 years, and he will love that 15 mill option, cause he wont get more as a Free Agent.
I love how Boras loves to bring up Bonds' production over 40...guess what idiot, he was on steroids, no wonder he was able to do so well.
Posted by: Ivdown | December 14, 2008 at 11:52 AM
Heart and soul aside Jeter ain't getting any better. I'm glad they are dangling Nady, they need to see what value he has. As for Manny LOL George King III reports... enough said and yes I'm from NY no it's not that serious infact there are more rumors if the Red Sox land Tex the Yankees will respond w/ Manny, Hank likes Manny but Manny and this roster from coaches as whole to players would not last so I doubt this happens.
Posted by: Brandon | December 14, 2008 at 11:52 AM
Manny makes sense in NY. No trade to Nady, for the money, production and just a classic type of player you keep him. I agree Matsui seems to be more appealing for a trade. Really a salary dump on him. He is a free agent next year anyhow. I see one of the west coast teams with the Japanese attendance high as a perfect suitor. We do not need much in return.
Posted by: yankee77 | December 14, 2008 at 11:52 AM
This sucks, the Dodgers had 60 mill of their books, and the Yanks only had 20 mill more, yet the Dodgers have spent 20 mill total while the Yanks have spent 240 million. Also, the Dodgers are rumored (sort of) to spend maybe another 50 million in total contracts, because our owner is a cheap as*. I wish the Dodgers had a good owner.
Posted by: Ivdown | December 14, 2008 at 11:54 AM
For that matter package Matsui and Igawa. Dump both $$ and get some small fill in chips. I mean our lineup is pretty solid. What do get in return for Matsui/Igawa trade?
Posted by: yankee77 | December 14, 2008 at 11:55 AM
I would like to see a team that hasnt given up their first round pick to another team through free agency sign Manny. The good thing about us not signing him was that wed get draft picks, now idk what would happen if he went to the yankees who owe draft picks through 2018 with all the Type A free agents they are signing and interested in.
Posted by: Ivdown | December 14, 2008 at 11:58 AM
Joe G. would not do well with Manny and is probably telling Hank & Hal he doesn't want him on the team.
Posted by: ksuth | December 14, 2008 at 12:02 PM
This sucks, the Dodgers had 60 mill of their books, and the Yanks only had 20 mill more, yet the Dodgers have spent 20 mill total while the Yanks have spent 240 million. Also, the Dodgers are rumored (sort of) to spend maybe another 50 million in total contracts, because our owner is a cheap as*. I wish the Dodgers had a good owner.
Posted by: Ivdown | December 14, 2008 at 11:54 AM
LOL. then our payroll would be what, 300 million? like those 240 million you talking about will be paid at once during 2009
Posted by: No27in2009 | December 14, 2008 at 12:04 PM
Wow, Manny hitting 3rd behind A-rod. Good luck pitchers
Posted by: DominicanYanks | December 14, 2008 at 12:05 PM
make that close to 350-400 million
Posted by: No27in2009 | December 14, 2008 at 12:05 PM
I meant hitting 4th
Posted by: DominicanYanks | December 14, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Interesting comments here.
Manny would be my third choice behind Tex and Dunn. I guess you deal Nady because the line-up would be too right-handed then.
And for the Reds fan that offered Bailey, I would do that in a heartbeat.
I do think the Yanks need to add one more bat.
As stated would prefer Tex or Dunn since both could play 1st. If we get Manny, we have to hope that Matsui could learn the position (pretty sure he could).
One note. The Yanks do not owe compensatory draft picks going forward. You only lose this years. That is part of what I think is Cashman's plan. Go for broke this year and lose that draft pick for Sabathia and the 2nd rounder for Burnett. Keep your left over picks for the 1st and 2nd round and be no worse off, despite adding three Type A free agents.
Posted by: NJYankeeFan | December 14, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Rolling{Night}Hawk---
Mets:
Xavier Nady OF
Yankees:
Bobby Parnell SP
*Crappy Reliever*(insert name here)
one fill in prospects similar to who they gave for Putz...
I agree with welcoming Nady to Citifield....but I think they can git r done for less. If this is the case then the Yanks are looking to dump so they have a need. Nady is arby eligible and only a year left on his contract. So giving up three players...one in our "Blue Chip" category for one year of Nady is probably overspending. I think we could do it for less.
Posted by: Butch | December 14, 2008 at 12:12 PM
This sucks, the Dodgers had 60 mill of their books, and the Yanks only had 20 mill more, yet the Dodgers have spent 20 mill total while the Yanks have spent 240 million. Also, the Dodgers are rumored (sort of) to spend maybe another 50 million in total contracts, because our owner is a cheap as*. I wish the Dodgers had a good owner.
Posted by: Ivdown | December 14, 2008 at 11:54 AM
LOL. then our payroll would be what, 300 million? like those 240 million you talking about will be paid at once during 2009
Posted by: No27in2009 | December 14, 2008 at 12:04 PM
A brain, do you have one?
Obviously im not talking about all of that money being paid in 09. Thats why the comparison of 20 million spent to 240 is so outrageous. Hell, if the Dodgers spent 20 mill on this year already, it would have been for Blake, Furcal, and Randy Johnson probly. Not Blake, Loretta, and Hector Luna.
Posted by: Ivdown | December 14, 2008 at 12:14 PM
What type of free agnet would Nady be, does it depend on how well he does in 2009.
Posted by: DominicanYanks | December 14, 2008 at 12:16 PM
i really don't care much about who yankees signs. I think boston will do better than last year since josh will be better from last year and that's like 4-5 wins more and boston will get mike lowell back (if they don't sign Tex and lowell is a .280-.300 hitting machine) and with improvement in jed lowrie, either way, boston will improve in win column.
Posted by: Stevie | December 14, 2008 at 12:23 PM
Stevie, those are more wishful thinking than reality. There is no backup that supports that Lowell will hit 280-300 after being injured, there is not sipport that Beckett or Lowrie will be better. And trust me you should care who they sign. Because if the sign Tex, you won't go and get Manny back, but if they sign Manny Boston can go and get Tex.
Posted by: DominicanYanks | December 14, 2008 at 12:28 PM
"Manny and New York do not go together at all. He may have grown up there but he will cause so much trouble it won't even be funny. The Yankees will regret the day they signed him for years to come.
http://hardballblog.mlblogs.com/"
Go away and stop plugging your little crappy blog. If Manny is such a cancer, how come he has played for winners his entire career? The guy just wins.
Posted by: nrmax88 | December 14, 2008 at 12:30 PM
If Man-NY were to become a Yank there's no way possible he would play any OF position. He would absolutely be a DH full-time and fill in as a LF every now and then. Damon can't be traded because we would be w/o a leadoff hitter. Wouldn't make sense to trade Nady since he's only 30 and probably couldn't command much since he's a FA next year. I think he should be looked at as a possible long term part of the OF depending on what kind of year he has in 09. Either you dump Matsui for a low-level prospect and eat his contract or you wait until mid-season and see who needs a left-handed bat.
LF-Damon
CF-Cameron/Melky/Gardner
RF-Nady
DH-Man-NY
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | December 14, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Manny is one of the few hitters that when he comes up will change a game. Even at his age, Manny is one of the best hitters in baseball and a future HOF. But I think that Tex is the best investment b/c the Yankees infield defense is below ave, Tex would improve them in that category.
Posted by: DominicanYanks | December 14, 2008 at 12:37 PM
They should dump Igawa,Mekly,Matsui & keep the Xman because he is younger and can hit. Let Manny DH and trade all those guys + Kennedy for Peavy or something
Posted by: TripleHHH | December 14, 2008 at 12:41 PM
Wow HHH.
To start with, there are like 3 things compltely wrong with what you just said.
For one, the Padres are looking to shed salary, not gain salary.
For another, they are looking for GOOD players, not overpriced trash (igawa), trash (melky), failing prospects (kennnedy), and an overpriced lf who is kind of good.
For another, yeah, so the Dodgers are just going to trade Jones, Schmidt, Pierre, and Hu for Roy Halladay tomorrow.
You do realize the MLB is not MLB 08 The Show...right?
Posted by: Ivdown | December 14, 2008 at 12:47 PM
The reason to trade Nady as opposed to Damon or Matsui is that he has more trade value than the other two (by virtue of being cheaper) but is unlikely to outperform Matsui or Damon. I'd be happy to sell high on Nady and get a useful prospect in return.
Posted by: Eric | December 14, 2008 at 12:50 PM
I think you need to consider that Nady might not hit like he did last year. He only hit 268 with the Yanks. His SLG dropped and his OBP as well and not long ago he was just a 4th OF. He might bring something good back b/c he is very cheap and has only 1 yr left. But in terms of defense, it would be really bad.
Posted by: DominicanYanks | December 14, 2008 at 12:52 PM
I love the consensus that a guy whos still 23 years old and dominated in college and the minors is a busted prospect. Nope, those 12 starts hes made in the majors will be the end all be all.
Posted by: Casanova Wong | December 14, 2008 at 12:56 PM
if Steins will support another bat, bless their souls;
Tex, Swisher to RF, Trade Nady
or
Manuel, Trade Nady (Matsui wouldn't bring us much, besides ~8mil in payroll relief)
It seems like it is getting to be crunch time for Teixeira
^^^Parnell has a good fastball, but is not a blue-chipper... not that it would take one for Xman, but you get my point
Posted by: ArodMVP217 | December 14, 2008 at 12:59 PM
I love the consensus that a guy whos still 23 years old and dominated in college and the minors is a busted prospect. Nope, those 12 starts hes made in the majors will be the end all be all.
Posted by: Casanova Wong | December 14, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Well, its just a dam* good thing college and minor league success is what makes a player good, not major league success.
Posted by: Ivdown | December 14, 2008 at 01:03 PM
So every guy who has not had major league success by age 23 is a bust?
Posted by: Casanova Wong | December 14, 2008 at 01:07 PM
The dude was one of the best prospects in baseball last year, and has dropped off the face of the earth because he cant take it in new york. Maybe he can do well somewhere else, but no one (except yankee fans) is going to give him the status he had last year when the Yankees could have used him as a big trade chip to get Santana. Instead, Kennedy has probly half the value if not less than he did at this time last year.
Posted by: Ivdown | December 14, 2008 at 01:10 PM
yankees should sign crede and put arod at dh
Posted by: yankeeswilldoit09 | December 14, 2008 at 01:11 PM
DominicanYanks, to have manny or tex in the lineup is just to replace what they lost in Jason G and Aberu, Aberu has Tex's hitting average and Jason G has Tex's homerun number. What yankees has improven so far is their pitching. And you said that there is no way to know whether mike lowel would hit that good, trust me, he will. He played throughout his injury last season and he still has .274 and 17 homerun. i'm sure he will do better than that when he's healthy. As for Jed, his average was ridiculous and his strikeout number was way too high. I don't see him going worse than that..and josh, he will have his stuff back, if not at least 2 -3 win more than 12 wins this season. Justin and Buchholz will improve. Ask Buchholz to repeat 2-9 with 6 ERA is almost impossible. So if boston can have their full lineup and pitching back, they can get couple more wins than last year. Yankees will improve pitching wise, but batting, i don't think so.
Posted by: Stevie | December 14, 2008 at 01:13 PM
Ok so a good gm takes a prospect who was highly regarded by all of baseball then trade him when his value is at it's absolute lowest because, despite his excellent track record, he had a bad 2 months?
That nakes ALOT of sense, good job.
Posted by: Casanova Wong | December 14, 2008 at 01:13 PM
Lmao. I was never the one to say he should be traded in the first place. Way to read, though.
Yeah, he WAS highly reguarded. That is past tense. Now he isnt worth too much. It would be stupid to trade him right now with his value having plummeted so far, but I think a new team could help him.
Posted by: Ivdown | December 14, 2008 at 01:23 PM
if the yankees are willing to spend so much on the open market. Why wont they trade hughes and a few other prospects for a proven cy young winner in Jake Peavy??
They would also still have lots of money to spend..
Posted by: kingfelix93 | December 14, 2008 at 01:30 PM
Who are they speakin of?
Posted by: beastOftheEast | December 14, 2008 at 01:32 PM
I would send the Yankees some of the following packages for Nady-
Bailey and Fransisco
R. Ramierez, Soto, and Dorn
Thompson, Fransisco, and Malony
thompson, soto
Posted by: GmblngPtchr20 | December 14, 2008 at 01:35 PM
Trying to keep payroll down by signing Manny then moving Xavier Nady is THE most idiotic move I've ever heard of. Nady is a Scott Boras client heading to free agency so he's a rental and he's not going to command a decent package.
Posted by: AtlantaBred | December 14, 2008 at 01:39 PM
Stevie, you do realize that everything you said are thing that "you think" with no support. Yanks need to sign Manny or Tex to replace Giambi and Abreu's productions, but remember that they Have Nady. So its not that Manny will replace Abreu and Giambi. It will be Who ever they get plus Nady.
So you think Manny behind A-rod is not better than Giambi behind A-rod? a world of difference.
Posted by: DominicanYanks | December 14, 2008 at 01:41 PM
If the Yanks are going after Manny or Tex they'd HAVE to move one of Nady, Matsui or Damon. I'd prefer to keep Nady but to be honest it would be worth sacrificing any one of them to add either Manny or Tex.
However this talk of Swisher to CF are ridiculous. He's like the 3rd WORST CF in all of baseball! Besides, the reason he hated the White Sox so much was he doesn't like playing CF. He's good great ability in corner OF spots and 1B. Thats why one of our corner OF's would have to be moved because if Tex came in Swisher would ideally move to LF and if Manny comes in you need room in the corners and at DH. With both Damon and Matsui in their walk years I'd think they'd have some interest. I'd really love to get rid of Damon. I dont like Damon.
Anyway, I've said since day one that the Yanks are going to deny it and say nothing except that they're out of it but at the end of negotiations the Yankees WILL get involved in the Teixeira sweepstakes. I really love Teixeira as a player and I think he's the ideal Yankee. I'd be thrilled if we some how could get him. We do have the money because all of this money we've spent this offseason came off the books so dispite our spending spree we're still saving money.
I don think we get involved in the Manny sweepstakes unless Boston signs Teixeira and Manny's only getting short term offers. Then I think the Yanks will match a 2 year offer or something and see if he'll take it. I think Tex is much more likely than Manny but you never know. I dont think ANYONE could protect Arod in a lineup like Manny so who knows.
Posted by: gianthinker | December 14, 2008 at 01:47 PM
kingfelix93:
You might not be far off with your thinking the Yankees are lurking around the Peavy situation.
If Jake finally realizes that he isn't wanted in San Diego and is willing the add the American League to his tradable partners. Don't be surprised if the Yankees don't make a play for him.
Put it this way everyone..
By the beginning of Spring Training I would be willing to bet that the Yankees have 1 of Mark Teixeira, Manny Ramirez or Jake Peavy on their team.
Obviously the first 2 for offense or if available go with Jake Peavy to assemble on of the best rotations is Baseball History.
The Best Bet would be on either Manny or Teixeira though..
Posted by: Pat Kelly | December 14, 2008 at 01:52 PM
Yanks aren't going to trade Hughes, specially when they don't need to add a SP like Peavy. B/c of the signing of CC and AJ, there is now more time for those youngsters to develop.
Posted by: DominicanYanks | December 14, 2008 at 01:53 PM
"the George King article isn't made up, it's been reported here in NY for a couple of days now"
Oh, it's made up alright -- made up by Scott Boras. He's trying to drive up the price for his clients, and King is all too happy to help. I'm sure the Yankees don't mind if it costs whoever signs those guys a few extra bucks.
Posted by: mac_1103 | December 14, 2008 at 01:55 PM
Another thing to consider is that if the Yanks sign Tex, they won't lose a 1st round pick, meaning the Angels would probably get their 2dn rounder. The Yankees will have picks in the first and second round of the draft in 2009 because of players unsigned in 2008 anyways.
Posted by: DominicanYanks | December 14, 2008 at 01:58 PM
tex is the highest rated FA. Angels will get their 1st rounder and milwaukee would get the yanks 2nd
Posted by: Casanova Wong | December 14, 2008 at 02:00 PM
manny will do amazin for the yanks if he ends up their. he will especially try his very best against boston just to piss them off.
projections:
36 HR
110 RBI
.320 AVG
Posted by: alex | December 14, 2008 at 02:14 PM
Well how ever you put it, the yanks still don't lose much in terms of picks.
Posted by: DominicanYanks | December 14, 2008 at 02:23 PM
gianthinker:
Look at Damon's numbers. Yanks can live without Matsui, can't without Sparkplug-Johnny leading off. They don't HAVE to move Matsui to sign Dunn/Tex/Manny BECAUSE he's in his walk year. Bring him off the bech to spell the corners/DH.
Damon-DH/LF
Jeter-SS
A-Rod-3B
Dunn-LF/DH
Nady-RF
Swisher-1B
Cano-2B
Posada-C
Cameron/Gardner-CF
Matsui
Melky/Gardner
Ransom
Molina
Posted by: maximumpotential | December 14, 2008 at 02:34 PM
yankees are just pathetic... just cause they have the money they think they can do whatever they want. First of all the recession we have is partly due to the fact of the new freaking Yankees Stadium, and now Cashman just goes out signing every big free agent on the market. Sabathia and Burnett and now Texeira if not Manny thats just plain stupid, if the yankees either sign one of them, and if they don't make it to the world series thats just straight up pathetic. well actually if they sign manny or texeira there is like no point of watching baseball anymore.. well im pretty sure alot of people will agree with me on that one
Posted by: aznxjapboiz | December 14, 2008 at 02:47 PM
the yankees better hope all of these signings go off without a hitch. the way they're signing type A free agents, they won't be getting much help from the farm for quite a while.
Posted by: jmurray | December 14, 2008 at 03:05 PM
maximumpotential- you sort of need to get rid of matsui if you sign ramirez/dunn.what ever good money matsui gets and whatever good stuff he has done for us should get him more respect than being a spell for damon. as ive stated b4 get tex. and keep godzilla because he isnt a bad player he has just gotten in injurys that happen and if he is not producing maybe the A's aren't doing well and are willing to trade holliday in a three way with another teamwho is a contender and needs a lefty bat i can picture it now
A's get: melancon whoever that Cards ss prospect is and kennedy along jb cox and collin curtis
Cardinals get: matsui and a's pitching prospect
Yankees get: MATT HOLLIDAY
Posted by: yanksfan4ever | December 14, 2008 at 03:11 PM
aznxjapboiz...
You're primarily one of the major reasons I am hesitant to comment here. At no point did your incoherent, angry comment display any intelligence or thought as to what the larger picture is.
My question to you sir is where are you from and what team do you follow? Other than the following the production of the yankees...
This is the question I will be asking every ignorant commentor from here on in.
Been commenting for these last two days, first time ever on this site and I think a lot of people need correcting. Someone needs to do it..
Posted by: yankee77 | December 14, 2008 at 03:13 PM
Redsox Dynasty is next. Been reading his comments for a while too. They seem to be somewhere btw the 2nd grade and 4th grade level.
Perhaps I am being to generous. lol
I'd expect by now MLBTR has a little light that goes on every he submits a comment.
Posted by: yankee77 | December 14, 2008 at 03:16 PM
and third place is still third place!
Red sox person. You were not old enough obviously to know that the RS were there or less for like two decades if not more. 1 year does not warrant the comment you made. Take this response I am giving you out of good faith, cause frankly, you will not get one from me again. I know everyone else no longer replies to you on here.
Posted by: yankee77 | December 14, 2008 at 03:21 PM
"and third place is still third place!"
Red sox person. You were not old enough obviously to know that the RS were there or less for like two decades if not more. 1 year does not warrant the comment you made. Take this response I am giving you out of good faith, cause frankly, you will not get one from me again. I know everyone else no longer replies to you on here.
Posted by: yankee77 | December 14, 2008 at 03:24 PM
aznxjapboiz- you're blaming the collapsing world economy on the yankees? You gotta be fu*king stupidest post I think I have ever read and thats saying something.
Red Sox Dynasty your perpetually terrible posts are nothing but a joke. I like how you think ellsbury, lowrie, bay and big papi will have bounceback years but for some reason only cano and arod will. Your posts are complete garbage and nobody takes you seriously
Posted by: Casanova Wong | December 14, 2008 at 03:35 PM
When do the Yankees plan on offering Mark Teixera an 8/180 million dollar offer?
Posted by: YankeeFan4life | December 14, 2008 at 03:49 PM
How will the yankees trade matsui? obviously my fellow yankee fans would like to trade the aging OF with no knees... be reasonable.. no one will take his salary for anything worthwhile in return..
Manny is more headache than worth
Posted by: dapoktan | December 14, 2008 at 03:55 PM
Dapoktan they dont have to trade him for anything reasonable they just have to get rid of him
Posted by: Casanova Wong | December 14, 2008 at 04:02 PM
I think the Yankees are in the same boat with Matsui and Damon that the Cubs are in with Marquis and Lee: Yeah, we want to trade them, only everybody that is offered them either wants to give them back an equally large contract, or expects them to pay 1/2+ of it and give the yanks/Cubs virtually nothing in return, which is why the Yankees/Cubs still have Damon, Matsui and Lee (not Marquis, he stinks) teams are not going to take on injury guys like that making 12+ million that are relegated to corner OF/DH in Damon/Matsui's case and pay them as if they were 30 years old and prime years.
Which makes me wonder.. Why are the Yankees talking about weak knees Dye? Same boat as Damon and Matsui with his bad body, even if he did have a good 2008 season?
As much as would like to see Tex sign with Anaheim and Boston for what he could do with those lineups, the yankees have let the guy walk by (so far) that they could have used the most and after him? Dunn, can sign him for 4 years for what can get Manny for 3.
Posted by: johns | December 14, 2008 at 04:07 PM
Trade: Matsui Igawa and Melky for cameron.(or something like that just get ride of those three players)
Sign
Manny
petite
Lineup:
Damon
Jeter
Manny
Arod
cano
nady
posada
Cameron
Swisher
Staff
CC
Wang
Burnett
Joba
Pettite
Hughes waiting for the inevidable injury we have an injury prone staff so when someone goes down he goes in.
That would be Ideal but there is no guarantee they would accept the contract.
Bullpen would have mo marte veras edwar we could use someone else like.
Maybe hoffman if he would be a set up man as far as what we should offer
Manny 4/88 club option year four 1.5 million buyout
chad cordero 3/12 club option 400k buyout
pettite 1/10
Hoffman 2/10 club option year 2 250k buyout
Thats seems right up the yanks ally
Posted by: mynameborat | December 14, 2008 at 04:16 PM
I'd appreciate feedback on my idea.
Since the foundation of "sport" requires a level playing field and there is no salary cap in baseball, it is encroaching on becomming a spectacle rather than a sport.
How would baseball fans react if there were 5 team salary levels which would allow small market teams extra roster spots ie:
Under 50 Million = 30 man roster
Under 70 Million = 29
Under 90 Million = 28
Under 110 Million = 27
Under 130 Million = 26
Over 130 Million = 25
Thanks
Posted by: Svengoolie | December 14, 2008 at 04:16 PM
Borat the yankees are not signing tervor hoffman or trading matsui and igawa to the padres for cameron, theyre trying to lower salary, that would add about 7 million.
Posted by: Casanova Wong | December 14, 2008 at 04:20 PM
Next year get rid of nady and get holliday that would be great. Then Austin Jackson to omg.
Lineup:
1.IDK RF
2.Jeter ss
3. Manny DH
4. arod 3B
5. holliday LF
6.posada C
7.swisher 1B
8.cano 2b
9.jackson CF
idk = pick up
Posted by: mynameborat | December 14, 2008 at 04:25 PM
yanks are never doing that. Maybe i was going overboard with hoffman but i have alot of respect for we need a set up and i would love to see him in pinstripes
Posted by: mynameborat | December 14, 2008 at 04:26 PM
That= lowering salary
Set up= Set up man
Posted by: mynameborat | December 14, 2008 at 04:27 PM
The Yanks should offer Tex 6yrs/150 mil. Even if it does nothing other than drive the price up for Boston.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | December 14, 2008 at 04:28 PM
"First of all the recession we have is partly due to the fact of the new freaking Yankees Stadium"
I hope that the college that gave you your degree in economics offers refunds.
Posted by: yankeegirl49 | December 14, 2008 at 04:29 PM
"I'd appreciate feedback on my idea.
Since the foundation of "sport" requires a level playing field and there is no salary cap in baseball, it is encroaching on becomming a spectacle rather than a sport.
How would baseball fans react if there were 5 team salary levels which would allow small market teams extra roster spots ie:
Under 50 Million = 30 man roster
Under 70 Million = 29
Under 90 Million = 28
Under 110 Million = 27
Under 130 Million = 26
Over 130 Million = 25
Thanks"
Stupid Idea the bullpens would get killed and a salary based roster wouldn't be justfied. Look at the rays and marlins salary and how they did this year compared to how the yanks did.
Posted by: mynameborat | December 14, 2008 at 04:30 PM