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Bernie Miklasz passes along some quotes from Cardinals chairman Bill DeWitt Jr. about the team's offseason plans. DeWitt didn't pin the Cards' 2009 payroll down exactly, but he said it will be over $100MM. Whether the payroll's slightly or considerably higher than that "depends on who is available or what the value is."
DeWitt said the organization would "consider" signing expensive players if they could make a big difference on the team.
Miklasz heard Tony La Russa's thoughts on the St. Louis bullpen now that they missed out on Brian Fuentes. La Russa said Chris Carpenter could close next year, since he's reluctant to expect 30 starts from Carp and he doesn't think Chris Perez and Jason Motte are completely ready.
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3 million in annual attendance at busch stadium care about the cardinals big guy.
Anyways I think the Cardinals should make a bid on Lowe or Sheets for some stability in the rotation.
Posted by: Redbirdfan | January 03, 2009 at 10:38 AM
lmao.
IFFFFF you take out 3 players
Gonzalez
Gerut
Peavy
you have the worst team in the history of baseball
Posted by: Ivdown | January 03, 2009 at 10:41 AM
More affirmation that La Russa has no faith in his youngsters. Hard-throwing relievers Chris Perez and Jason Motte are chomping at the bit in the St. Louis bullpen, yet their manager thinks he'll get more out of a 33-year-old who has spent over a year dealing with shoulder problems.
Posted by: Drew Silva | January 03, 2009 at 10:48 AM
This team won 86 games last year with no closer. They would have won 95 easily with any real closer. You're an idiot gunsnascar.
Posted by: catch212 | January 03, 2009 at 10:55 AM
This Chris Perez and Jason Motte aren't ready crap is getting annoying. If I were a Cardinals fan, I'd be livid right now. Seriously. Give. Them. A. GD. Shot. And. Find. Out.
Oh, and if Carpenter isn't in the rotation, that rotation is pretty damn weak. Lohse is going to regress. The Cards need another SP anyways....if the payroll is flexible, could Ben Sheets be in the mix?
Posted by: melonis rex | January 03, 2009 at 11:02 AM
"This team won 86 games last year with no closer. They would have won 95 easily with any real closer. You're an idiot gunsnascar."
And TLR letting Izzy and Ryan Franklin pitch in high leverage situations. Had he let Motte/Perez have those situations, they could've probably won a few more games.
Posted by: melonis rex | January 03, 2009 at 11:03 AM
for the wannabe spelling bee wiz the correct spelling is.....Pujols not pooholes. i think the cards should sign Ohman & Lowe Sheets is to much of a health risk, or the cards could trade Ankiel for a SP & sign Ohman.
Posted by: alan | January 03, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Take out Zambrano, Soriano, and Ramirez and the Cubs suck.
Take out Braun, Fielder, and Hardy and the Brewers really suck.
Posted by: melonis rex | January 03, 2009 at 11:10 AM
"Oh, and if Carpenter isn't in the rotation, that rotation is pretty damn weak. Lohse is going to regress."
The rotation will still have Wainwright and Wellemeyer, and loshe was 2-0 with an ERA of 3 in 2 september starts...I wouldnt call that regressing especially for a guy who is 30 years old.
Posted by: Redbirdfan | January 03, 2009 at 11:10 AM
I think the Cards had 33 or so blown saves last year. If they had Brad Lidge closing for them (meaning the closer was perfect), the Cardinals would have been a team going for the all-time team wins record. Freakin izzy.
Posted by: Ivdown | January 03, 2009 at 11:34 AM
Lets be relistic about things here the Cardinals like to tease people by saying they are going to go after good players when they never really do. The cardinals are cheap, Why go out and spend money on players when they know the idiot fans are still going to fill the stadium. 3 million every year. LOL Think about it, were all suckers.
Posted by: jimmyM | January 03, 2009 at 12:01 PM
I was kinda surprised the Card's payroll was over $100 mill. Seems about 20 million high at least, for what they're running out there.
Posted by: zaphrodesiac | January 03, 2009 at 12:07 PM
IVDOWN:
every blown save does not equal a loss...there are times when there were 2 blown saves in one game, or we actually came back to win a blown save game after giving up the lead late. I cant remember how many games we lost out of the blown saves though.
Posted by: dave | January 03, 2009 at 12:18 PM
"Whether the payroll's slightly or considerably higher than that "depends on who is available or what the value is."
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He's been saying for the past 2-3 seasons that he would raise payroll for the "right player"....there's been plenty of players out there that would have helped the Cards big time but yet they just sit back and watch them sign elsewhere.
Posted by: CardinalFaninIL | January 03, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Just because the Cardinals havent spent stupid money on guys like fuentes doesnt mean they didnt do something big this offseason, they filled holes at Short and in the pen without spending alot of money or giving up alot of players. The Cardinals are not the typical $100 million team, they dont have one or two big money players, they have a managment style to spend what they want on players not what agents like scott boras want for them.
Posted by: Redbirdfan | January 03, 2009 at 12:22 PM
"I was kinda surprised the Card's payroll was over $100 mill. Seems about 20 million high at least, for what they're running out there."
Dead weight.
Carpenter(he was hurt most of the season), Mulder, Izzy, etc. cost well over 30MM last year.
Posted by: melonis rex | January 03, 2009 at 12:34 PM
IVDOWN:
every blown save does not equal a loss...there are times when there were 2 blown saves in one game, or we actually came back to win a blown save game after giving up the lead late. I cant remember how many games we lost out of the blown saves though.
Posted by: dave | January 03, 2009 at 12:18 PM
I realize that. I was just showing how much impact those blown saves had. Obviously they didnt lose all the game they had a blown save, and obviously Lidge wouldnt have been able to close out all of those games, but it would have been a much higher win total if the Cards had a good closer last season.
Posted by: Ivdown | January 03, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Pujols wont be a redbird after contract, probably traded
Posted by: imbev | January 03, 2009 at 12:46 PM
Pujols was a cardinals draft pick dude.
Posted by: Redbirdfan | January 03, 2009 at 12:47 PM
100+ million in 09 might get them outta 4th place in the central but its doubtfull
and for the record the cubs are idiots for trading pujols when he was in the minors maybe the biggest mistake ever in baseball history
Posted by: gunsnascar | January 03, 2009 at 12:42 PM
????
Posted by: Ivdown | January 03, 2009 at 12:47 PM
Haha what? I seriously hope you are joking about the Cubs having traded Pujols to the Cardinals. He isn't Lou Brock you know. Not to mention they could spend $5MM more to add to their bench and finish in 2nd if Carp is healthy. With any sort of closer they could challenge the Cubs.
Posted by: catch212 | January 03, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Drafted by the St. Louis Cardinals in the 13th round of the 1999 amateur draft. Player signed August 17, 1999. (All Transactions)
^^^for you redneck padres fan.
Posted by: Ivdown | January 03, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Pujols wont be a redbird after contract, probably traded
Posted by: imbev | January 03, 2009 at 12:46 PM
Very very doubtful.
Posted by: Ivdown | January 03, 2009 at 12:51 PM
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2006/10/11/one_that_got_away/
The cardinals definitely did draft Pujols, but this is a story for any sox fan who feels like crying.
Posted by: Ivdown | January 03, 2009 at 01:00 PM
If you guys need a LH closer, BJ Ryan is available if JP Ricciardi is "blown" away. Quite frankly, I doubt BJ has much trade value considering Fuentes' contract, but if the Cards want to throw Chris Perez our way to have a "proven" (and by that I mean expensive) closer, by all means...
Posted by: Jays2010 | January 03, 2009 at 01:11 PM
"If you guys need a LH closer, BJ Ryan is available if JP Ricciardi is "blown" away. Quite frankly, I doubt BJ has much trade value considering Fuentes' contract, but if the Cards want to throw Chris Perez our way to have a "proven" (and by that I mean expensive) closer, by all means..."
TLR is salivating.
Posted by: melonis rex | January 03, 2009 at 01:34 PM
if jody gerut is one of your best 3 players you are alreadt fd. pujols will be on the red sox in a couple of years. could justify paying him. will the cardinals even finish 3rd in the central?
Posted by: sanders20 | January 03, 2009 at 03:48 PM
keep thinking that sanders, its not happening.
Posted by: Ivdown | January 03, 2009 at 04:02 PM
The Cardinals will resign pujols because he is the franchise and fans would be pissed if he was allowed to even get close to his free agent year. If it costs 30 mil a year they will resign him. And as far as the central goes, who else besides the Cubs are going to be a good team? The astros maybe if they get decient pitching behind Oswalt and the Brewers have almost no rotation.
Posted by: Redbirdfan | January 03, 2009 at 04:04 PM
"The astros maybe if they get decient pitching behind Oswalt and the Brewers have almost no rotation."
Astros don't have the money to get decent pitching behind Oswalt and Wandy Rodriguez.
Brewers have Gallardo and a bunch of BOR types.
Posted by: melonis rex | January 03, 2009 at 04:41 PM
"pujols will be on the red sox in a couple of years."
The Cardinals will re-sign Pujols, DeWitt knows it would be a disaster if he doesn't.
Posted by: CardinalFaninIL | January 03, 2009 at 05:03 PM
Pujols will resign with the Cardinals because of he love STL and he has too much in STL to leave. His kid need to go to the hospital in STL for treatment aswell. He will stay.
Posted by: Knuffy | January 03, 2009 at 06:54 PM
pujols looks like the best bargain going at over 100 million(crazy but) you dont think he will bend cardinals management over knowing he was a bargain for 7 years and it will cripple the franchise at 30 million
Posted by: sanders20 | January 03, 2009 at 07:05 PM
cubs win the div with 90 wins
Posted by: sanders20 | January 03, 2009 at 07:08 PM
I know not seeing a championship won by your pathetic super choke artist chicago team in your entire life (and probably wontin your entire lifetime) hurts you gunsnascar.. thats a clever name by the way, did you get it frum your pa? But the truth is the cubs could have a team consisting of 1000 albert pujols's and it wouldnt help them. my advice to you is to go watch the white sox play, and have somthing to cheer for.
Posted by: AndrewBeavs | January 03, 2009 at 10:35 PM
hahaha.. you know its funny, I remember everyone saying the cards would be lucky to finish out of last place last season and half way through the season cubbie fans were gettin clinchin there asses AGAIN. YOU POOR IDIOTS DONT KNOW YOUR BASEBALL HISTORY. The Cardinals are winners. a perennial team. only second to the new york yankess. get over it.
Posted by: AndrewBeavs | January 03, 2009 at 10:42 PM
cards win the division with 97 wins.
Posted by: AndrewBeavs | January 03, 2009 at 10:44 PM
"If they had Brad Lidge closing for them (meaning the closer was perfect), the Cardinals would have been a team going for the all-time team wins record."
This is laughable...and I guess I'll leave it at that.
"you know its funny, I remember everyone saying the cards would be lucky to finish out of last place last season"
The Cards finished in 4th...thats closer to last than first.
gunsnascar, you are making us Cubs fans look like half the people at six flags in St. Louis....stop being such a redneck and grow up.
Posted by: Aduncaroo | January 03, 2009 at 11:10 PM
And AndrewBeavs...same goes for you. Are you guys both 14?
Posted by: Aduncaroo | January 03, 2009 at 11:11 PM
The owner saying the Cards have a flexible payroll is a lot like saying, "We have the money, but in the end, I'll pocket it."
If I'm a Cards fan, and they don't address at least ONE of their needs with a good player, I'd be pissed.
Posted by: Aduncaroo | January 03, 2009 at 11:16 PM
hey gunsnascar you got some really good original jokes you should try getting a gig in wrigleyville or boystown, they basically run together.
come on really you keep making the same joke about "cards fans like it in the pooholes" you can't think of anything else. that's a hypocritical joke considering the location of the 2 neighborhoods in chicago. oh and wrigley field, the oldest or the 2nd oldest stadium (who really cares it's a poohole), was around before boys town so i wonder why they moved to that certin location
Posted by: zb12 | January 03, 2009 at 11:35 PM
Chris Carpenter $10,500,000
Mark Mulder $7,000,000
Juan Encarnacion $6,500,000
Jason Isringhausen $8,000,000
overall $32MM out of the cardinals $99MM salary tied up/lost in injuries. and the team was 10 games over .500
so yeah we were 4th place, that sucks
Posted by: mambonumbafive | January 04, 2009 at 09:45 AM