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Mets Meet With Boras

THURSDAY, 8:55am: MetsBlog sums up the reports about the team's Boras meeting.  Ken Davidoff says the Mets are confident they'll sign Lowe or Perez.

WEDNESDAY, 7:41pm Anthony DiComo has sources that say the Mets spoke with Boras about all of his free agent clients. That list includes Perez and Ramirez, although DiComo says Manny remains a long shot.

4:23pm MetsBlog's Matthew Cerrone has some info on the Mets' recent meeting with Scott Boras.  He believes the discussions focused on Derek Lowe (not Oliver Perez or Manny Ramirez) and ended on a positive note, though Boras will probably take more time.

Cerrone agrees with Joel Sherman that a three-year, $42MM deal with a fourth-year vesting option for Lowe is feasible.


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3/42 with a fourth year vesting option?

If I'm the Mets, I'd probably make that deal.

Adding Lowe would probably make them the favorites in that division, considering their bullpen seems to be quite good now and the lineup still has three of the best all around players in all of baseball.

With a rotation of Santana, Lowe, Maine, Pelfrey and Niese/Redding/Whatever, the Mets could definitely take that division.

Especially when you consider that the Phillies have done little to nothing to actually improve themselves. Unless you want to call the Ibanez signing a legitimate improvement..

If the Mets can get Lowe for 3/42 with a vesting option, that is a great deal.

Bleh. Wake me up when they sign somebody. Or at least when there is another actual offer on the table from another team. The more time passes, the more I am starting to lean towards Ollie. Just sign one of them. This is getting tedious.

Ollie is also a Boras client. What makes you think he would sign any quicker?

Get this done Omar. The Mets can't afford to have Rick Vaughn back in their rotation over D-Low...

Also, fwiw, Cerrone doesn't provide a link or even a source. He just says "from what I can gather". Yay.

"Ollie is also a Boras client. What makes you think he would sign any quicker?"

I never said he would sign quicker.... all I said is I am starting to lean towards him. And yes, I know who Oliver Perez's agent is, thank you.

If I were the Mets I'd offer Lowe 3 Years at 15 Mil per. No option for a 4th year..he's 36 years old for gods sake..

Doesn't seem like Minyana really needs to be in a hurry. Lowe apparently wants to pitch in the NE, Boston has shown little interest, same with the Yanks and unless Philly all of a sudden comes up with a pile of cash to give him, it just seems like Boras is playing with a lousy hand this time and furthermore.. just why should Minyana give Lowe more cash/years than K-Rod? Are they that desperate for a starter?

I'd make that offer if I were the Mets.

Keep in mind 3/42 with an option year is simply Sherman guessing where it will fall out at the end. There is no report that this is something the Boras/Lowe camp are even amenable to. For all we know, Boras is still sticking to more guranteed years and money way above $14 million/year. I think that's probably where things are at now.

This post should be taken down as Cerrone is at best borderline credible.

He cites no sources and it just appears his report was stealing Joel Sherman's post that was already reported on this site this morning.

Cerrone's posts contradict previous posts he has made because he copies from other places and then tries to appear that it is his work.

if the mets signed manny i wouldnt even mind them sticking with slappy at 2nd base.

Onto the issue at hand. I have to in a sense agree with nrmax about Ollie Perez.

I wonder if the Mets might not be leaning towards resigning Ollie more and more. Lowe is clearly the superior pitcher, but if Boras is struggling to find him suitors in say the 3 year 14 million dollar range, what is the market going to be for Perez.

If the Mets think they can get Perez for 3 years 28.5-30 million I think they might prefer that.

Wilpon is not Steinbrenner and the Mets have several escalating contracts after this year. In 2010 K-Rod will get 3 mil more, Wright will get 2.5 mil more and Reyes will get 3.25 mil more right off the bat plus Santana gets 1 mil more and Putz's option to boot. I have to think the more Omar and Wilpon are thinking possibly about Perez at about 10 mil for 3 looks a whole lot better then what Lowe is asking for. Pure speculation on my part.

There's no reason for the Mets to rush the market. Its made some movement, but its hardly thinning out, and a number of the benchmarks

A. Have not been set

and

B. Seem to be falling by the day

I'm worried that if anything, Omar played his hand a bit early with Lowe. Even though he's worth a lot more, if Omar had just waited, I doubt any other suitor would have made an initial bid higher than 3/36. The fact that Omar made it seemed to insult Lowe and Boras ever so slightly, and I feared Omar was in danger of pushing his luck to the point where Lowe signed a virtually identical contract with a different team. It doesn't look like that's the case, but it may take a bit longer now, and Omar may wind up paying a bit more than he would have if he'd shown some more patience and let someone else make the first move.

I also have to wonder if there's not a small voice in the heads of Fred and Jeff Wilpon that keeps reminding them that with Manny in 2008, the season likely ends differently. He may have been virtually free then and significantly more expensive now, but you don't fix a mistake by compounding it, you still have to make the best decisions you can.

Nrmax, don't doubt Cerrone. Do you not remember last off-season, when he perfectly pegged the Santana dealings?

GUARENTEED THAT PEREZ MAKES MORE THEN RAUL IBANEZ

10 Mil a yr for 3 yrs is way off atleast by 2 to 5 million a year especially since hes a lefty and has Boras as his Agent

"Nrmax, don't doubt Cerrone. Do you not remember last off-season, when he perfectly pegged the Santana dealings?"

Yeah, him and everybody else. It was brutally obvious to anybody who knew what was going on that the Mets were going to wind up with him. It became apparent relatively early during the whole Johan saga that the Yankees and the Redsox were playing keep away and that only left the Mets.

"10 Mil a yr for 3 yrs is way off atleast by 2 to 5 million a year especially since hes a lefty and has Boras as his Agent"

If this were the free agent market of 06, or 07 then you are probably right. But I don't see Perez getting much more then 10 or 11 in this market.

So if the Red Sox sign Smoltz then I think its official they are out of the running on Lowe....agreed?? That being said and the Braves not wanting a bidding war, and Phillies having to pay up on 8 players next year....then who is bidding other than the Mets??? Kind of sounds like patience paid off again for Minaya....huh

"10 Mil a yr for 3 yrs is way off atleast by 2 to 5 million a year especially since hes a lefty and has Boras as his Agent"

Not in this market.

Raul Ibanez was massive overpayment by this market's terms, btw.

I was hoping they were meeting Boras about Varitek.

Butch,
The Red Sox didnt have much interest on Lowe way before the Tex saga happened. Now its even worst. The Red Sox are not going to deal with Boras this offseason at all. I'm guessing that they are not going to work with him in a while. Watch out next year. The are not going to go after Holliday next year either. Anything else you hear is not true and its coming out from Boras people.

Why would the Redsox be mad at Boras because Tex chose the Yankees? It's not like a deal was done like Furcal and Atlanta and then Boras screwed the Sox over. Just because they are the "Sawx" and a guy decides to not play for them (Gasp!) does not mean they alienate an agent with some of the best baseball players out there.

Re: Santana

That's just not true nrmax, most counted the Mets out on Santana for a good portion of the winter, while Cerrone was the only one harping about how ownership was "quietly confident". The guy has done a tremendous job keeping a finger on the team's pulse. Sure, towards the end, when it was clear the Twins had overplayed their hand, it started to look like an obvious fit, but not back in December 2007.

Okay. Whatever. Cerrone is king. Seriously though. From the moment that we found out that Johan would only accept trades to NY or Boston, 3 teams, it wasn't that hard to foresee a scenario where Johan fell into the Mets laps. An AL team looking to trade away the best pitcher in the world at the time. Two AL teams involved. 1 NL team. The Redsox and the Yankees have better farm systems, sure, but I don't think anybody thought the Mets couldn't put a good offer out there using their top tier talent.

They could have offered any sort of combo of Gomez, Martinez, Humber, Pelfrey, Mulvey, Guerra, or even traded a guy like Reyes or Wright. Everything we heard was that Johan loves NY and he loves to hit and he is friends with Castillo and all things pointing to him wanting to be here. So forgive me if I don't anoint the guy as some sort of prophet for predicting something that had a better then 1/3 chance of happening.

Seriously, the guy can't evaluate players. He uses caveman statistics like BA, W, you get it. He admitted the other day he only knows the most elite prospects in an organization because there is no point in knowing them all, since most won't make it, so it inevitably doesn't matter. You just said he was basing his predictions on things he was reading about how Omar was quietly confident, because I doubt he was talking to team officials who told him they were quietly confident. So honestly, what information could he have possibly had to be basing this big hunch off of? The Met fan in him hoping?

I'm sorry, I don't mean to kill the guy, I am sure he is a nice dude and he does a cool job with the site and rolling up his sleeves(literally) on SNY and all that, but he just isn't a very good analyst of baseball. I stop by once in a while to check up on some rumors, but for the most part, he does the same thing as Tim does here, but only for the Mets, without the knowledge of the game that Tim has. It annoys me when these Metsblog writers link an article, summarize it poorly and sometimes inaccurately, and then give their own take on the situation, which almost never makes sense, and have to get in their sarcastic little comments about a guy like Nick Swisher for hitting .219 last year or Adam Dunn because he K's 150 times.

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