Padres Backed Away From Cubs-Peavy Deal?

Maybe Jeff Moorad killed the deal. They probably knew about the sale at that time, and maybe the prospective owner wanted to buy a team that already had it's ace.

mike, I'm thinking the same thing. I don't think there's any way Peavy gets moved with Moorad taking over.

I just can't understand the Derosa trade if the Cubs don't end up getting Peavy. Yeah we saved a little bit of money, but losing Derosa was not worth the 3 mil that we saved by picking up Miles.

Everything I have seen has said that we got basically nothing for Derosa as well, I just can't grasp what the heck Hendry is doing if he isn't going after Peavy...

Very true - the DeRosa deal makes no sense if it wasn't a precursor to something bigger, whether it be for Peavy or someone else. If the idea was to clear payroll or acquire prospects to use, I like it, but if they're going to stand pat, they just subtracted a HUGE piece of the 07 and 08 clubs and got nothing in return that will help them immediately.

lol its like a soap opera

Does anyone else here kind of wish the Cubs went after Swisher?

He didn't really fit in with the White Sox, but he could've been a great fit for the Cubs and his price tag isn't too large.

He's a switch hitter, plays a solid RF, takes a ton of walks, hits for good power and wouldn't have costed as much as Milton Bradley, who's a larger risk anyways.

I think with Swish, worst case scenario you get his 2008 production, although that was mostly a function of his extremely unlucky BABIP, which was very low despite maintaining his line drive rate.

At this point, I just don't see how the Cubs land Roberts.

The Orioles would likely want pitching, and the Cubs really just don't have that kind of talent to offer unless they'd deal Jeff Samardzija, which they won't.

The Cubs could maybe offer something like Marshall, Fontenot, Pie, Flaherty and a fifth prospect for Roberts, but I just don't see how the Orioles could possibly think that's the best deal they could make.

At this point, I think the lineup is pretty much set with Soto, Lee, Fontenot/Miles, Ramirez, Theriot, Soriano, Fukudome/Johnson and Bradley.

I'd like to see the Cubs add another starter, or maybe another dependable reliever, but at this point I don't see them addressing the lineup much more.

I dont want the cubs to go after peavy, and I sure as hell dont want roberts..
And the more I mull it over the more Im ok with the DeRo trade, we traded him while he was his hottest and got three pitching prospects..I dont care who you are, Pitching Prospects are always needed. Who is to say next year isn't the end of the career years for him. If we make another move, Im ok with that, if not Im ok with our lineup as it stands..
Soriano
Fontenot/Miles
A-Ram
Bradley
Lee
Soto
Reed/Fukudome
Theriot
Big Z...
that is a tough lineup from top to bottom and could seriously score some runs, and dont forget if its late and we need defensive stability switch fuk over to right, reed to left and gathright in Center...I am also with the few who don't see what the problem is with Marshall, the guy has done everything we ask of him, and a fulltime rotation spot could prove how good he can be

"I agree with scribbletone, but nothing Hendry has done convinces me that he gets the whole OBP thing. The Miles deal confirms he still has his fetish for weak-hitting infielders."

Bradley has a career OBP of .370, and has been over .400 the past two seasons. Clearly, adding Bradley was partially because of his on base skills.

As for Miles, I don't love the addition, but it's not awful. The Fontenot/Miles combo is definitely a downgrade from DeRosa, but it won't be by nearly as much as people think. Fontenot will surprise some people, I'd presume.

I really don't understand why they would move DeRosa in a total salary dump though either. They literally gave the guy away, despite the fact that he is very underpaid by his current contract. They should have landed at least one legitimately good prospect for him, and yet all we got was a potential middle reliever and a couple of wild card A ball arms. I hate the deal. Almost as much as I hated Ceda for Gregg.

Hendry has sucked this offseason, and unless he brings in another quality guy (2B? #5 SP? SS with Theriot moving over?) before everything is said and done. I think we've gotten worse.

Yeah, how could Hendry get rid of Wood and DeRosa, after all those championships they helped them win.

Yeah let's blame Wood, his sub 3 ERA and big K numbers, as well as DeRosa, his versatility and his emergence as a good OBP guy with solid power.

It's their fault we lost.

"but nothing Hendry has done convinces me that he gets the whole OBP thing."

Umm..really? The Cubs LED the NL in OBP...I think maybe all of baseball as well. Then they bring in the guy that led the AL in OBP to be the full time RF, and replace DeRosa with Fontenot, who in half a seasons at bats last year put up an OBP of .395.

How in the world can you say he doesn't get the whole OBP thing??

Just a few random thoughts:

It makes much more sense that the writer of this article simply got his information wrong, than Hendry told multiple sources in the media a lie about what happened just to cover up for Kevin Towers.

And to think that in November Moorad would hold enough sway to cancel any trade is laughable. That is the stuff of the conspiracy theory buffs in the aluminum foil hats.

The Padres were asking for a lot for Peavy, the trade needed at least a 3rd team to be consummated, and the Cubs were not set in the OF and their payroll was climbing even without adding Peavy's $11 million in 2009 and $15 million in 2010.

Now the Cubs have added the LH power bat in the OF they wanted so badly and kept payroll relatively the same as before Bradley's signing by dumping Marquis and trading DeRosa and signing the much cheaper and similar talent in Miles.

Now that they have their ducks in a row, the Cubs could still go after Peavy.

It would take a huge package to get Peavy from the Padres and the Cubs do not have the players and prospects available without enlisting another team even after picking up 3 relief prospects from the Indians for DeRosa.

It will take at least one pitcher the Padres can be sure will step right into their starting rotation. That means Marshall. Any attempts to not include him would nix the trade.

It would also take at least one prospect that could step in and start for the Padres as a position player. Ronny Cedeno? He is the odd man out in the current Cubs infield, but is he really an upgrade for the Padres?

The Padres would have to be mighty dim to allow the Cubs to include Pie in the trade as anything more than a throw in knowing that he may have to pass through waivers in just a few weeks. The signing of Joey Gaithright signaled the end of Pie's time in Cubbie Land.

The biggest reason I don't see a Peavy to Cubs trade being made is you have TWO teams with the ownership in flux. At this point who is the person giving the final ok to a trade on either side? The Presidents of the clubs? The GM's?

BTW Cubs fans, the Right handed hitting DeRosa was moved for the switch hitting hitting Miles to fulfill the managers wish for more left handed bats in the lineup. This gives LH Fontenot more time at 2B and Miles can fill in with at 6 positions. The power hitting prowess between these Miles and DeRosa favors DeRosa, but overall the difference in hitting is not enough to justify the difference in salary and DeRosa is nearly 2 years older.

Scribble, I wasn't blaming just them, although DeRosa did play a big part in both post season debacles. All I'm saying is that it is stupid to think the Cubs can't win without them, like many are saying. Wood might be good. But nobody can say, with any certainty, how or even if, he will perform next year. And DeRosa is a good player. But Bradley is one of the best hitters in baseball. The Cubs are better now, with a more balanced lineup. Somebody had to go. With Wood's history, Hendry would be a fool to sign him long term, for big money. DeRosa is the only one without a no trade clause that had value. Probably the highest value he would ever have. Hendry did what he had to do. But this over blown love for DeRosa is crazy. He's good. Not great.

Also, I posted this before and will do so here. Hendry and the Cubs sell high before a player declines and everyone is upset. Usually, the Cubs are noted for keeping guys too long. It might be because no big names came back. I trust the scouting the Cubs have in Wilken and will give Hendry a break, as any trade is judged in time and not today.

"our farm system sucks and you hate it"
wouldnt adding three arms kinda help that out, I know none are projected great but two of them are in A, its very hard to guess who will make it and who won't out of a ball...