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Pedro Not A Fit For Marlins

2:35pm: Juan C. Rodriguez of the Sun Sentinel also shoots down the rumor, stating that it looks like given their lack of interest in Carl Pavano, the Marlins don't want to give a rotation spot to a pitcher attempting to rebound.

Rodriguez says that Ricky Nolasco, Josh Johnson, and Chris Volstad are locks for the rotation, with Andrew Miller and Anibal Sanchez as the favorites for the other two spots. Ryan Tucker, Sean West, Frankie De La Cruz and Aaron Thompson are in the mix as well.

11:21am: Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald  shoots down the rumor that Pedro Martinez is a possible fit for the Marlins. Spencer heard from multiple sources that "nothing is afoot on that front." The Marlins either have a lack of interest or a lack of money.

Spencer did hear that Pedro's interested in playing for the Marlins. One source even said they were his "first choice." However, no discussions have taken place between the Marlins and Martinez recently and none are planned.


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Hey, I hear the Red Sox have given contracts to a bunch of gimps recently. Maybe he should go crawling back and ask them for a job.

Oh yeah... because playing for the Sox is such an honor...

He'll wind up somewhere that will be a much better situation for him than Boston would be. He doesn't need Boston.

I don't really like this headline too much. Just because the Marlins won't pay for him (even though they could) doesn't mean he's not a good fit. But I guess that's the Marlins' fault, not the writers'. For as great as they are at scouting and player development, I wish they'd open their wallets just once in a while to push them over the top.

There may be several older, high profile guys choosing between retirement and "minor league with spring training invite" deals this year. With the economy, young and cheap is in, old and expensive is out.

Pedro should come to Detroit

What about having Ben Sheets in Detroit and then moving a starter to closer?
Or maybe Ollie Perez (don't know cost)?

It sound ridiculus, I know, but I'm a desperate tigers fan who wants a closer!

At least the Tigers will get a good draft pick!!! No. 9!!
Hope Tyler Matzek or Aaron Crow slip down to #9

Future Two Headed Monster in the Rotation of Porcello and Matzek or Porcello and Crow

who are the clowns bad mouthing boston? pedro pooped on this city and the ownership when he left with his nonsense about respect b/c they wouldnt give him a 4 year deal.. then what did he do? spent half of the contract with the mets on the DL. yeah, boston is a bunch of dopes.

anyway, enrique rojas is reporting via the bottomline that pedro and the marlins are in talks...

the marlins are interest..at a certian price, and not going to go over it. if pedro really want to be a marlins, he take a 1ow guarantee contract, 1 year, and a couple of millions in incentives

Pedro and Manny need to team up and go to the same team.

I wish Manny would go to the Phillies and have a bad year, so whenever he struck out they would boo the hell out of him (no offence Philly fans).
Pedro should forever be put in the Hall of Shame for throwing down an old man like Zimmerman down. He could join Roberto Alomar for spitting in the umps face.
Although Manny is a great player, he needs to get his act together. He does not want to listen to anybody and wants to rule the team. He is a disgrace to baseball. I wish he would clean up his act up b/c fans love him for the great first ballot HOF ballplayer he is.But thats just Manny being Manny.

Pedro is all about money. Always has been, always will be. He has an ego the size of a blimp & probably thinks he still puts butts in seats. Therefore, I dont see him taking incentives. Whoever ponis up the most is where he'll go (if anywhere).

I can't help but laugh at the Pedro haters. The guy is a guaranteed first ballot HOFer. One of the best pitchers in baseball history.

Hall of Shame for throwing down an old man? Give me a break. That old man charged him looking for a fight, Pedro barely touched him.

Ego? Are you kidding me?

Bravesfan210--"Pedro should forever be put in the Hall of Shame for throwing down an old man like Zimmerman down."

disclaimer: I am neither a yankees or red sox fan, and not really a big pedro fan either.

Dude, is that a serious statement? Zimmer ATTACKED him. Zimmer got thrown down on the Red Sox dugout side of the field, after he ran over there from the yankee dugout. Pedro looked up, saw him charging at him, grabbed him by the head and shoulders and threw him down. What else was he supposed to do?

"The guy is a guaranteed first ballot HOFer. One of the best pitchers in baseball history."

Absolutely, should he be paid for that now? His history?

"Ego? Are you kidding me?"

What Pedro have you seen the past 10 years?

I'm not saying Pedro is not a great pitcher. Now whether he is HOF bound could be debated. He was great and would have been a shoe in for the first ballot if he had not got hurt.

I am pretty sure also that Pedro could have avoided Zim somehow other than tossing him to the ground. Pedro is a great pitcher and I would love to have him on the Braves if he would just do what he is best at, pitching. I like that he wants to go to Florida, but think that he needs to accept a low deal offer from a team that has a better shot of winning a championship. I would not mind seeing him go to the Angels.

"the marlins are interest..at a certian price, and not going to go over it. if pedro really want to be a marlins, he take a 1ow guarantee contract, 1 year, and a couple of millions in incentives"

Well, obviously. The thing is, even their "certain prices" can be ridiculously low. This is an offseason for bargains, and they still won't do anything. I'm not saying they should've been in the mix for CC or Teixeira; I'm saying they'd be reluctant to sign guys who would make more than $2-3 million. They even traded Kevin Gregg for that reason (even though I think they won that trade) and non-tendered Joe Nelson because... well, I honestly have no idea why.

"Well, obviously. The thing is, even their "certain prices" can be ridiculously low. This is an offseason for bargains, and they still won't do anything. I'm not saying they should've been in the mix for CC or Teixeira; I'm saying they'd be reluctant to sign guys who would make more than $2-3 million. They even traded Kevin Gregg for that reason (even though I think they won that trade) and non-tendered Joe Nelson because... well, I honestly have no idea why."

They did sign Scott Proctor! That must count for SOMETHING!!!!

nyyank,
there cheap we all know, but theyre smart, and i have full confident in beinfest's decision in letting joey go, people forget that he had a career year, chancing of repeat it is small. also his adjusted era+ is 213, one of the highest in single-season history, meaning that he really benefit from dolphins stadium

I'm not saying Pedro is a good fit for Florida, but Pavano is a horrible comparison. No one's going to show up to the ballpark just to watch Carl Pavano pitch, but people might to watch Pedro Martinez pitch. Signing Pedro cheap is a much more lucrative proposition than Pavano, and makes some sense for a smaller market team in a transition stage.

However, the Marlins aren't so much in transition, and they're still incredibly stingy. They have plenty of live young arms and competed with the Mets and Phillies for most of the year. If Pedro was only going to cost $2-3 million at most, I could see the Marlins as a possibility. But I have a feeling someone might be willing to give him a bit more elsewhere.

Marlinsman, I know he overachieved, but how much would it have cost to retain him? He has 2 years of service. He's not even arbitration-eligible, unless there's something in the system that I don't understand, and he doesn't have to be as great as last year either. He had a respectable FIP of 3.40, which I'd take as an ERA any day. Also, there's nothing wrong with benefiting from Dolphins Stadium if you stay in Dolphins Stadium. But I hope Beinfest was right and he's no good anymore, since he's on the Rays now.

I don't understand why people think the Redding signning would make Pedro any less likely for the Mets. Redding could become the Mets long man. Assuming they go with a 12-man pitching staff:

SP:
1.Santana
2.Pelfrey
3.Perez/Lowe
4.Maine
5.Pedro

BP:
CL:K-Rod
SU:Putz
MR:Green
MR:Stokes/Sanchez/Parnell/O'Day/FA
MR:Stokes/Sanchez/Parnell/O'Day/Lefty FA/FA
LHMR:Feliciano
LR:Redding

Redding would be providing insurance for Pedro and playing a role that the Mets haven't had much strength in since Darren Oliver left. Redding could always slide into that fifth spot next year or if there were to be an injury.

Martinez is not a fit for the marlins and contradictory to several other older pitchers available on the market like Smoltz, Byrd etc.. I doubt he would be of much use as a teach as the head hunter and "me 1st" mentality that he has always head throughout his career.

On his HOF chances.. Yeah, he was the most dominant starter in the game from 97-2003 even though he only won 20 games 2 times within that span, the fact that nobody ever wanted to face him, his outstanding command of the zone and of 3 pitches was just dominating and he was truly the top starter of that period and his record backs that up at 214-99 even now when he can't even get ppl out anymore.

yeah, nyfan,
the marlins could of sign him for 950k, and only offered 800 and wouldnt budge

If the marlins were willing to even listen to buchholz, ellsbury, and some for hanley, then the yankees should try and get him to play shortstop so we can move jeter to center.

we'll offer the marlins: hughes, melky, coke, kennedy, miranda, and nady

for

ramirez

then sign manny

you're set with

c posada
1b teixeira
2b cano
3b a-rod
ss ramirez
lf manny
cf jeter
rf swisher
dh matsui

suck that

If the marlins were willing to even listen to buchholz, ellsbury, and some for hanley, then the yankees should try and get him to play shortstop so we can move jeter to center.

we'll offer the marlins: hughes, melky, coke, kennedy, miranda, and nady

for

ramirez

then sign manny

you're set with

c posada
1b teixeira
2b cano
3b a-rod
ss ramirez
lf manny
cf jeter
rf swisher
dh matsui

suck that

Posted by: yankdynastynow09 | January 11, 2009 at 04:34 PM

You don't deserve to post anymore.

why?

they get a potential ace, a good hitting of, another young of, a potential mid rotation guy, a reliever and a young 1b.

i guess ramirez is totally unavaiable.

what about jose reyes or miguel tejada

Wow.

Reyes is pretty much 100% unavaiable.

Tejada isn't really any good at shortstop anymore.

Your proposal was a joke, the Marlins wouldn't even consider that offer.

It'd take at least Hughes, Montero, Jackson, Betances and Kennedy.

What the heck? Why are we discussing the Marlins on Yankee Trade Rumors?

Pedro had three options: kill Zimmer, run away from the idiot, or dump his sad clown butt to the ground out of pity.

Jeter in center field? Sign me up!

Wow, are they really calling De La Cruz "Frankie?" I remember when Rod Allen gave him that nickname.

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