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Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette turned up a few more Pirates rumors:
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Xavier Nady for Andrew McCutchen in a perfect world
Posted by: ARyan | January 10, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Xavier Nady is the best option on the Yankees roster right now.
Nady(LF), Gardner(CF), Swisher(RF)
Matsui (DH)
Melkey (Utility OF)
Get rid of J.Damon...
Posted by: Easy St NYY16 | January 10, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Johnny Damon is a necessity on this team. Trade Nady. He had a career year and has, for most of it, been a platoon player and average at best. I just hope Ca$hman can hoodwink somebody into giving us something as good as we gave up.
Posted by: Rob NY | January 10, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Get rid of Damon who posted a career high OPS+ of 118? Has a track record of putting together above average leadoff seasons?
Yea, let's get rid of the Yankee spark plug! Good idea. Not the guy who is coming off his worst season or a guy coming off a season he is unlikely to repeat...
Posted by: B3NG4L | January 10, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Just use Pearce...Swisher batted a very low 200 last year and why give up players for someone you've already trade away?
Posted by: tytomkiel | January 10, 2009 at 11:48 AM
The Yankees didn't trade Andrew McCutchen, and I'd take him in a trade for sure. They traded Dan McCutchen I think it was, a SP not an OF. Don't see why the Bucs would do any trade for Nady or Swish though.
Posted by: Rob NY | January 10, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Like I said before, why would anyone trade with NY when you have the glut of FA outfielders out there with no jobs. I'd rather have Abreu or Manny than either Nady or Swisher. If NY was willing to dump them for little cost I'd do it if I we're the Pirates. If they try to ask for anything significant I'd pass.
Posted by: SierraM | January 10, 2009 at 12:18 PM
Easy answer to your question SIERRAM:
First of all, signing free-agents of that caliber costs draft picks...and MULTI-year deals. Nady has one year left on his deal and carries a ton of bang-4-the-buck. He made 3.3 mill last year and hit .305 25 97.
This is the reason why Nady is in demand and why you have ZERO prayer for getting him for something not "significant".
Posted by: jjyankeesfan2 | January 10, 2009 at 12:36 PM
"Xavier Nady for Andrew McCutchen in a perfect world"
More like in a very, very Yankee-centric and inequitable world.
McCutchen is their best OF prospect and projects as a very good CF. He should be ready by the end of this season and there is ZERO reason for the Pirates to even consider moving him.
Nady is a solid player but he's only under contract for one year, and with Boras as his agent, he'll hit the free market.
I realize you said that would happen in a perfect world, but still.
Seven years of Andrew McCutchen for one year of Xavier Nady? Hell no. Never.
Posted by: scribbletone | January 10, 2009 at 12:39 PM
"This is the reason why Nady is in demand and why you have ZERO prayer for getting him for something not "significant"."
I doubt seriously he is in much demand being a Boras client in a walk year, unless the Yankees are looking for a discount in return. Teams (like the bucs) at this moment have no fear of losing a 1st round pick for signing any FA and can get anybody they want and as we have seen already, the market is at rock bottom for corner OF'ers. Why pay Nady 8 million plus (after arbitration) and give up a top prospect when you can probably get an equal bat via FA like Abreu (when he realizes he ain't gonna get 16) for 8 million? Dunn can probably be had for 10-12 million even and no prospects, plus no draft picks. EASY choice to make.
Posted by: johns | January 10, 2009 at 01:22 PM
First of all, signing free-agents of that caliber costs draft picks...and MULTI-year deals. Nady has one year left on his deal and carries a ton of bang-4-the-buck. He made 3.3 mill last year and hit .305 25 97.
This is the reason why Nady is in demand and why you have ZERO prayer for getting him for something not "significant".
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I have to agree with SierraM on this. The only market for Nady would be a win-now team that's weak in the outfield and so strapped for cash that they can't commit to a multi-year deal. I don't think there are too many matches with that. I could see the Mets or the Braves, but I think the rest of the free agent market will probably have to play out first.
That said, I think by the time that happens, it'll be pretty close to spring training and no one will want to pay too much for Nady, and the Yankees will probably find that having an extra outfielder isn't such a bad thing.
Posted by: NYYanksCaptain23 | January 10, 2009 at 01:29 PM
Oh, and I also meant to say that Nady isn't really being demanded. He's being supplied. You're right that it will take something significant though, because Nady will at the very least turn into two draft picks.
Posted by: NYYanksCaptain23 | January 10, 2009 at 01:31 PM
WTF ARyan! Seriously? Really?
Put down that crack pipe son!
Crack is Wack!
Posted by: BadAndy | January 10, 2009 at 01:42 PM
"Oh, and I also meant to say that Nady isn't really being demanded. He's being supplied".
I know this is all semantics...but from what is being rumored...it sounds like teams are asking what it would take to get Nady and Swish and being rebuffed for their offers thus far. The Yankees don't NEED to get rid of either of them...and quite frankly I wish they wouldn't. Matusi is the DH, Damon in LF, Gardner in CF, Nady in RF and Swish backing up all three and Tex at 1B. Having a bench is necessary to compete and it's something the Yankees haven't had in years.
I hate the Rag Sox as much as anyone...but their recent signings (low risk, low $, high reward possibly) Penny, Saito, Rocco and Kotsay all provide low-cost depth. Good moves. I'd like to see the Yankees do the same.
Posted by: jjyankeesfan2 | January 10, 2009 at 01:50 PM
Yanks need to "sit" on Nady until near the 7/31 non waiver deadline have a feeling to get some kind of value from a contender desperate for a bat, teams at this time have way too many comparable bats via FA they can get for nearly equal 2009 salaries and not have to give up any prospects in return.
Posted by: johns | January 10, 2009 at 01:50 PM
Johns: It may not make much sense for a contending team but a team looking for a righty bat with pop would love to have Nady for a full season where he'll probably make no more than $7mil, comes with zero baggage and will probably be a Type A FA almost guaranteed to decline arbitration because his agent's name is Scotty Boras.
I think the Yanks trade him if and only if there's a 2nd moves their preparing to make or someone makes an offer they can't refuse. The key phrase people are missing is that "Cash is listening to offers", meaning that teams are calling up and inquiring about Nady or Swisher. The Yanks obvious needs (5th starter and inf utility/bench player) can all be satisfied thru FA or from the farm. Positional prospects are probably the one thing we need. A team with minor league depth might be willing to let a couple of non-top 5 prospects go for 1 year of Nady, especially if they don't want to pay Man-NY money or committ to more than one year for Abreu or Dunn.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | January 10, 2009 at 01:53 PM
Dye, Anderson, Lillibridge and Clayton Richard for McCutchen / McLouth... preferably McCutchen and Freddy Sanchez.
Posted by: Tough | January 10, 2009 at 01:55 PM
"Penny, Saito, Rocco and Kotsay all provide low-cost depth. Good moves. I'd like to see the Yankees do the same."
JJyankeesfan2, you are the 1st Yankee fan can recall posting that here and yeah, I can't believe the Yanks do not sign depth players/pitchers either, they have the money, we all know it and lack of pitching in particular depth has already killed 1 post season chance just last season and yet they still seem to be ignoring these cheaper, low risk, high reward ppl you mention. Maybe because I have been a fan for well over 40 years and seen this happen to Boston time after time when somebody would go down and nobody there to take that person's place to help them out is the reason I really like it so much now, but you would think that a GM of big money teams would see and do this after it had already bitten them and this is NOT meant to start some bs flame post or anything, just my own kind of logic regarding cheapo backup options.
Posted by: johns | January 10, 2009 at 01:57 PM
do the yankees want hermida? and some young relief pticher for nady to the marlins?
Posted by: marlinsman1120 | January 10, 2009 at 02:01 PM
"The Yanks obvious needs (5th starter and inf utility/bench player) can all be satisfied thru FA or from the farm."
Bloomquist just signed with KC and was wondering beforehand whether Boston or NY would be his home for 2009.
Sheets, I still see him in NY for 2009 and Yankee fans better be pulling for some of the chep replacement parts also and not intending to start some bs flame post here either. We all have seen our favorite teams falter from pieces going down, last year the Yankees needed 2 starting pitchers from serious injury and yet they still have lack of starting depth and serious injury risk in the rotation. I just think they need to sign a "piece or 2" this FA off season amongst Sheets, Mulder etc..
Posted by: johns | January 10, 2009 at 02:11 PM
Apologies for this close to 2nd post from one above it.. It seriously delayed posting, or it did on my PC at least..
Posted by: johns | January 10, 2009 at 02:15 PM
I hate the Rag Sox as much as anyone...but their recent signings (low risk, low $, high reward possibly) Penny, Saito, Rocco and Kotsay all provide low-cost depth. Good moves. I'd like to see the Yankees do the same.
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I agree jj, Boston has made some good "supportive role" moves. That's shows just how much turnover, and to be honest, how far the talent levels were between us and them. People are going to hate us but f'm right? The draft compensation system is flawed and I think the moves made were genius for this year. We went into the offseason guaranteed to have a protected 1st and 2 nd rnd pick and by signing CC, AJ and Tex we gave up our extra 1st and 2nd and our 3rd picks. We can go after 1 or 2 additional type A's and only give up a 4th or 5th rnd pick. I would like the Yanks to look at adding:
Juan Uribe (30)- 2B/SS/3B
Type B, no comp pick
Nomar Garciappara (35)-1B/SS/3B
Not rated, no comp pick
Juan Crus (30) Relief P-
TYpe A, requires comp pick
Eric Gagne (33) Relief P-
Type B, NO comp pick
Russ Springer (40) Relief P
Type A, requires pick
One of the following #5's on a 1 yr incentive deal only: Pettitte (37), Sheets (30), Garland (29), Pedro (37) or Mulder; minor league deal (31): Sheets is the only one that would require a comp pick (1st).
I think the team is set but it wouldn't hurt to add some INF depth to go along with or compete against Ransom. I would also like to add a FA as a #5; if not then go w/ in-house options. Would not trade for a #5.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | January 10, 2009 at 02:19 PM
"Dye, Anderson, Lillibridge and Clayton Richard for McCutchen / McLouth... preferably McCutchen and Freddy Sanchez." - Tough
(1) That package would not get you McCutchen alone, nor would it get you McLouth alone.
(2) Are you saying that you'd prefer Sanchez over McLouth?
Posted by: jrfukudome | January 10, 2009 at 02:22 PM
Wow..I like it when I'm in the process of typing a post and afterwards read that someone just posted a similar thought. Makes me think that maybe me idea has some legs and makes some sense with others. My biggest fear is someone going down and the team having to try and make a deadline deal or sign some scrub during the season. Championship caliber teams need depth and that's why I can only see Nady being traded IF theirs a 2nd move following or if a prospect package is offered that can't be refused. If not then worse case scenario is we have tremendous depth for positional players. We just need to sign a better left side INF back up/bench bat. Cash has to look at every move in terms on 2009 and 2010. I don't want 2010 to come along and we have to go FA hunting to fill all 3 OF spots.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | January 10, 2009 at 02:26 PM
Juan Uribe (30)- 2B/SS/3B
Type B, no comp pick
Nomar Garciappara (35)-1B/SS/3B
Not rated, no comp pick
Juan Crus (30) Relief P-
TYpe A, requires comp pick
Eric Gagne (33) Relief P-
Type B, NO comp pick
Russ Springer (40) Relief P
Type A, requires pick
One of the following #5's on a 1 yr incentive deal only: Pettitte (37), Sheets (30), Garland (29), Pedro (37) or Mulder; minor league deal (31): Sheets is the only one that would require a comp pick (1st).
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And I didn't meen we should add all of the above but one or two of them could fill needs (#5 starter and I utility/bench) and one relief guy adds a little more depth to an already deep bullpen but allows for some competition. I like Robertson, Ramirez and VEras but you nenver know when one might go south seeing as how relief guys are so volatile.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | January 10, 2009 at 02:30 PM
Not sure about Juan Uribe being the Yankee super IF utility guy for 2009 even if he is going to be stuck in the utility signee market this off season. Did you get a good look at him this past season? He has gotten huge and not in a good way either. Have doubts his service at SS especially would be of much use and doubts at 2nd range wise especially, even as a backup.
Alex Cora is unable to play 3rd at all as a potential utility guy, just warming up making throws from that position put him onto the DL and Boston canned that idea with him in 2008, but Nomar does make some sense if can keep him healthy and is an intriguing idea..
How about isrinhausen whom was let go by SL also, he may be a perfect BP guy and Cordero also as a reclamation 7-8th inning guy on the cheap.
Posted by: johns | January 10, 2009 at 02:43 PM
You can never have enough BP guys, Boston and Tampa proved that (yet again) last season and look at what Boston has going into 2009 already:
Papelbon
Okajima
MDC
Ramirez
Lopez
Saito
Aardsma
Masterson
Obviously, 8 ppl are not going to be on a staff at any given time, yet each one of those were very effective last season and it includes Aardsma even whose ERA was in the 2.75 range when he 1st hurt his right quad after the AS break, lost 3-4mph off his FB, his splitter left and was never the same afterwards.
Posted by: johns | January 10, 2009 at 02:49 PM
"I know this is all semantics...but from what is being rumored...it sounds like teams are asking what it would take to get Nady and Swish and being rebuffed for their offers thus far. The Yankees don't NEED to get rid of either of them...and quite frankly I wish they wouldn't. Matusi is the DH, Damon in LF, Gardner in CF, Nady in RF and Swish backing up all three and Tex at 1B. Having a bench is necessary to compete and it's something the Yankees haven't had in years."
I agree that the Yankees don't need to trade either of them, but if they can get something good (that is, better than the possible two draft picks) for Nady (not Swisher), then it wouldn't be a bad idea. Personally, I'd like to see them hang on to both of them too. However, despite "what is being rumored", the Yankees are the ones who announced that they would try to trade from their outfield surplus. I think other teams' interest comes as much from the knowledge that Nady is available as from their need for an outfielder. I haven't heard of any teams calling the Yankees and being rebuffed, but chances are that they will be low-ball offers right now. I'm confident that the Yankees will end up keeping both players and it will work out well for them, even though they're testing the market right now.
Posted by: NYYanksCaptain23 | January 10, 2009 at 03:16 PM
Yeah I agree you can never have too many bullpen guys. So far going into ST I see:
Rivera
Bruney (r)
Ramirez (r)
Veras (r)
Robertson (r)
Albaladjedo (r)
Marte (l)
Coke (l)
Geise (r)
w/ waiting in AAA
Mark Melcanon (24) righty
Humberto Sanchez (25) righty
Steve Jackson (27( righty
Scott Strikland (33) righty
Scott Patterson (30) righty
That's a lot of depth but I would have no problem adding 1 more to the competitive mix, especially if it's not going to cost me players.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | January 10, 2009 at 03:17 PM
However, despite "what is being rumored", the Yankees are the ones who announced that they would try to trade from their outfield surplus.
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I don't know, it sounds more like teams are calling the Yanks vs Cash calling any of them. He's sitting back seeing if anyone blows him away with an offer. If not, then we keep both. The only way I see him HAVING to make a move is if there's another move pending (Man-NY?????).
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | January 10, 2009 at 03:22 PM
JRFUKODOME -
I am saying I'd rather have McCutchen over McLouth
Posted by: Tough | January 10, 2009 at 03:31 PM
This is the latest MLBTR POST:
"Bill Ladson of MLB.com says the Nationals are calling the Yankees about Xavier Nady and Nick Swisher. Nationals GM Jim Bowden's alleged interest in these reportedly available outfielders should not surprise anyone".
"Also, confirming what many had suspected, Ladson notes that free agents Adam Dunn and Orlando Hudson "have exceeded the team's price range."
This is the point I was trying to make earlier. Thank you, drive thru.
Posted by: jjyankeesfan2 | January 10, 2009 at 03:57 PM
I know Utility Infield is considered a "need" for the Yankees... but I'd be comfortable with Ransom, anyone agree? He's not terrible by any means.
I think Cashman should focus on that 5th starter. That's more important than utility infield in my opinion. Look into Pettitte (I still think there's a chance they resign him) or maybe Sheets on a 1-year deal. I see Hughes/Aceves being fill-ins for whoever goes down due to injury.
As for Nady, I agree with the people that say keep him (at least for now). He'd probably be a lot more valuable at the trade deadline. If someone blows the Yanks away with a deal in July, then go for it. Otherwise, keep him for the year and either re-sign him or take draft picks when he leaves (because he'll likely be a Type A, depending on how he does this season).
Posted by: Agent | January 10, 2009 at 04:19 PM
Simple trade Damon and Swisher ,Posada and Cano. Hold on to Nady. Also you should think about signing Jones,Ramirez and Aderson. Then you beat the crap
out of the Red Sox
Posted by: Kenny | January 18, 2009 at 10:38 AM
Matsui should be traded
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Posted by: Kenny | January 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM
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