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Sheets Wants A Guaranteed Contract
According to MLB.com's Adam McCalvy, Ben Sheets and the Brewers have not spoken since the Brewers asked whether Sheets would consider an incentive-based contract similar to John Smoltz's ($4.5MM in incentives) or Brad Penny's ($3MM in incentives). It appears that Sheets was not open to an similar offer, but the Brewers won't offer a multi-year deal.
GM Doug Melvin maintains the club isn't likely to sign Sheets, but he hasn't completely ruled out the possibility.
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Posted by: zephyr8 | January 28, 2009 at 06:35 PM
grammar check Ben:
"...to an similar offer"
no 'n' needed :)
Posted by: Angelsx3714 | January 28, 2009 at 06:35 PM
Man, I wanted to be the spell checker. Oh, well.
What about a deal similar to Andy Pettitte's, or a better one? If Sheets gets a deal similar to Penny/Smoltz, that team is in good shape and the Red Sox overpaid.
Posted by: NYYanksCaptain23 | January 28, 2009 at 06:38 PM
omar needs to hurry up and sign both sheets and perez. sheets wont make a lot of money for a guy who can put up an ace's numbers. i say sign him. he's not asking for much as it is and we can negotiate and lower it to maybe 2/16ish. c'mon omar we need sheets
Posted by: Wright4President | January 28, 2009 at 06:40 PM
yanks sign him 1yr 6MM plus 4.24MM incentives
Sabathia
Burnett
Wang
Sheets
Pettitte
Joba in the pen setting up Mo
BEST ROTATION IN THE MLB
Posted by: Stephen | January 28, 2009 at 06:40 PM
if this is true and Sheets doesnt want any part of an incentive deal, this screams out "dont plan on me pitching 180 innings".....
Posted by: clos79 | January 28, 2009 at 06:43 PM
he will come back to milwaukee
Posted by: brewcrew | January 28, 2009 at 06:44 PM
Here's another idea:
Sabathia
Wang
Burnett
Pettitte
Chamberlain
MLB's 7th best bullpen of 2008, plus upcoming prospects who are less fit to be starters than Joba Chamberlain.
BEST ROTATION IN THE MLB.
Posted by: NYYanksCaptain23 | January 28, 2009 at 06:45 PM
sheets will be back in milwaukee, and p.s f**k the yankees
Posted by: brewcrew | January 28, 2009 at 06:46 PM
Im thinking the braves should sign Sheets. Why not? If we have 15 million or so to spend, i would rather have Dunn and Sheets over Dunn and Ohman.
Lowe
Sheets
Vazquez
Jurrjens
Kawakami
Campillo would be in the pen. This also lets Tommy Hanson and Charlie Morton polish up in AAA for a few months. Around June or July, call Hanson up (assuming he's ready) and trade away one of our pitchers that makes the most sense. And if it doesnt make sense to make a deal, let Hanson make some spot starts and come out of the bullpen like the Rays and David Price did.
Go braves.
Posted by: bravesfansc | January 28, 2009 at 06:49 PM
And i agree. F*ck the skankees.
Go spend another 300 million and lose to a bunch of rookies on the Rays...AGAIN!!!
Posted by: bravesfansc | January 28, 2009 at 06:51 PM
haha if the braves get sheets, i will quit playing baseball for the rest of my life
Posted by: clos79 | January 28, 2009 at 06:53 PM
BEST ROTATION LOL. @ of your starting 5 wont even make 25 starts.
Posted by: Mr. T The MeTro MaN | January 28, 2009 at 06:54 PM
2 not @ but 2 of your starting 5
Posted by: Mr. T The MeTro MaN | January 28, 2009 at 06:54 PM
And then you switch Joba back from the pen and he gets hurt agian.
Posted by: Mr. T The MeTro MaN | January 28, 2009 at 06:55 PM
Sabathia Wang Petite Hughes Kennedey would then be your starting 5
Posted by: Mr. T The MeTro MaN | January 28, 2009 at 06:56 PM
Sheets needs to realize that there is a really good reason all the GMs are going to try to offer him a heavily incentive laden contract.
Posted by: CitizenSnips | January 28, 2009 at 06:56 PM
"yanks sign him 1yr 6MM plus 4.24MM incentives"
The name of the article is literally sheets wants a guaranteed contract. It delves further in the following three sentences to explain that this means he does not want incentives.
Posted by: Dragline | January 28, 2009 at 06:57 PM
NYYanksCaptain23 - you are the voice of reason. Joba is not going back to the 'pen! I don't understand why Yankee fans even want him there.
Posted by: Chris W. | January 28, 2009 at 06:58 PM
Braves seem like a logical fit.
I'll keep it going...
f**k the Yankees!
Posted by: dusto | January 28, 2009 at 06:58 PM
1.Webb
2. Haren
3. Garland
4. Sheets
5. ?
Posted by: chris | January 28, 2009 at 07:06 PM
he still hasn't fixed the mistake
Posted by: mynameborat | January 28, 2009 at 07:08 PM
God I love the Yankee hate. Means we are doing something RIGHT
The Yankees don't need Sheets. We need a utility infielder and maybe another bullpen arm. Our 8th inning is suspect, but we have Melancon coming up.
Sheets should sign with the Braves. They need a SP, they have money. Give him a 1 yr/5.5 with a mutual option.
Posted by: JoeyA | January 28, 2009 at 07:12 PM
I can guarentee you the braves dont get him especially after they gave Lowe 60 mil. EVEN for 1 year.
Posted by: Mr. T The MeTro MaN | January 28, 2009 at 07:18 PM
I think hell end up in Texas he liked going there with his daddy when he was a boy and since the most hell get n e way is 1yr my guess would be thats were he ends up. I wish hed come to the Mets but they are not going to get him and Perez just like the Braves wont get him and Lowe.
Posted by: Mr. T The MeTro MaN | January 28, 2009 at 07:20 PM
Braves set out to sign 2 starting pitchers this offseason, and have signed 3 (Lowe, Kawakami, and Vazquez).
They have 5-6 candidates for the 5th starter (Campillo, Glavine (maybe), Morton, Reyes, Parr and of course Hanson)... and Hudson probably coming back in August.
Meanwhile, they have one proven outfielder (Francouer, and he's just proven to be below average).
And you guys want us to use any remaining funds to sign Sheets?
Really?
Posted by: AtlantaMike | January 28, 2009 at 07:20 PM
Wanna hear a joke?
The yankees and their current payroll.
Wanna hear another one?
They've spent 1.3 BILLION DOLLARS since their last world series win.
Good job =]
Posted by: bravesfansc | January 28, 2009 at 07:24 PM
And you guys want us to use any remaining funds to sign Sheets?
Really?
______________________________
We have 15 million or so to spend. If we give Dunn/Abreu that much this year, ill probably stop being a braves fan. If we have 7 million bucks to spend after getting our OF, Ben Sheets or Will Ohman?
There's no such thing as having too many pitchers.
Posted by: bravesfansc | January 28, 2009 at 07:26 PM
bravesfansc-
Tell me what you would rather a business that makes billions a year do with their money? Where do you want them to allocate all the revenue they recieve? Revenue share it - check. Spend it on a new stadium and concessions - check reinvest in the product put out on the field - check.
Don't be angry bravesfansc that we make more money than any org. and choose to reinvest a larger percentage of our total revenue than any other baseball team. Hate the game, not the player. Be mad at your own org. for not spending enough. The Yankees use what we have, and, when we come to your town, or any other for that matter, we sell out.
Posted by: JoeyA | January 28, 2009 at 07:27 PM
Oh and heres a funny joke:
They have made almost 10 times that amount of money since our last WS win. So what team is the real joke?
Posted by: JoeyA | January 28, 2009 at 07:29 PM
"We have 15 million or so to spend."
Where does that number come from? Everything I've heard (including Bowman and AJC) suggests 6-7 mil available, though (by faith) I've gotta believe the braves will go a little beyond that to fill the LF and LHRP needs.
Posted by: AtlantaMike | January 28, 2009 at 07:29 PM
1.3 billion dollars. They could bail out the porn industry with that $$$
Posted by: themfightnwords | January 28, 2009 at 07:30 PM
All we would need to do to bail out the porn industry is put a Vivid Ent. sign in CF.
Posted by: JoeyA | January 28, 2009 at 07:35 PM
Vivid Ent. sign in CF
Porn industry saved!
Posted by: JoeyA | January 28, 2009 at 07:37 PM
I've heard all along we had 45 million to spend. Subtract lowe's 15 million, kawakami's 7 and vazquez 9 and we're at 14 million. Am i mistaking somewhere?
Posted by: bravesfansc | January 28, 2009 at 07:38 PM
Chris W...
The smart ones don't.
Posted by: yankeegirl49 | January 28, 2009 at 07:43 PM
bravesfansc, I don't know where you heard (except for speculation) that the Braves had $45 mil to spend... maybe they do! Front Office has not assigned any payroll number (publically, anyway).
But, Kawakami is closer to $8 mil than 7; Vazquez is at $11.5 mil; signed Ross for $1.4; resigned Infante, Gonzalez and Diaz for increases; still got to deal with arbitration raises (all big ones) for Kotchman, KJ, and of course Francouer.
Anyway, from what I've heard, Braves CEO McGuirk is free to do whatever he thinks is in the best interest of baseball/business, so I'm not ruling anything out.
Just don't think yet another SP, especially an injury-prone one, is on the agenda.
Posted by: AtlantaMike | January 28, 2009 at 07:51 PM
45
Javy -11
Lowe -15
Kawakami -7
Ross -2
Infante -2
Diaz -2
Total -39
So 6-7 MM
Posted by: brad peacocke | January 28, 2009 at 07:53 PM
Halladay
Sheets
Janssen
Litsch
Purcey
let Clement/Maroth/Richmond/Romero fight for the scraps unless one of them shocks us all, or until McGowan comes back and knocks off whoever #5 ends up being
it would at least make us HALF respectable
Posted by: Ontario Greg | January 28, 2009 at 08:16 PM
Sheets hasn't earned anything but an incentive-laden contract...but who knows maybe someone will get desperate enough and offer him that multi-year guaranteed contract. Waste of money though...he'll be hurt whenever you need him.
Posted by: JoeyT107 | January 28, 2009 at 08:16 PM
I forgot about Infante and the backup Catcher. My mistake. Thanks for pointing it out.
Well if we only have 7 million to spend, sign Dunn for 1 or 2 years for 5-7 million and try to add Ohman.
Posted by: bravesfansc | January 28, 2009 at 08:18 PM
"NYYanksCaptain23 - you are the voice of reason."
Aww, thanks. I'm glad someone appreciates my rants. I'll avoid going on another one though, since this topic is about Ben Sheets. Just one more Yankee comment.
"Chris W...
The smart ones don't [want Joba in the bullpen]."
Well said. And neither does Cashman. What a coincidence. (Joba said on MLB Network yesterday that he's known since November that he's starting all year.)
Posted by: NYYanksCaptain23 | January 28, 2009 at 08:27 PM
Erm, OK Cammy, you can say that once Ollie actually puts together a half-decent season.
Posted by: B3NG4L | January 28, 2009 at 08:29 PM
Tim:
Is there a reason MLBTradeRumors is allowing someone with the username "Cammy F*ck da Phils & Yanks" to post on this site?
Inexcusable.
Posted by: mtex | January 28, 2009 at 08:30 PM
Onterio Greg- I really don't think the Blue Jays have that kind of money to spend. They've shown no indications that they'll be persuing any player of Sheets' price, and even as it's dropped, I still think it's out of their price range.
Then again, if they were willing to give Burnett 4/54, then they might as well be willing to give Sheets 1/10 or 2/18.
Posted by: scribbletone | January 28, 2009 at 09:02 PM
Cammy: I'm not sure what I've done to offend you for you to say something to me like that. I stated to Tim that I didn't think that your username was appropriate for this site.
You went ahead and confirmed that not only do you have poor taste in picking your username, but you're a terrible poet, as well.
Posted by: mtex | January 28, 2009 at 09:27 PM
"Oh and heres a funny joke:
They have made almost 10 times that amount of money since our last WS win. So what team is the real joke?"
JoeyA - Seriously?
Would you rather your team make a lot of money or win a lot of championships?
The Marlins have probably made about 23 bucks over the past fifteen years, but, as a fan, I'd take two championships over the team making a ton of money in a heartbeat.
Posted by: blb | January 28, 2009 at 11:39 PM
Also...
Sure the Yanks have done a lot of reinvesting with the money they've made, but they are living proof that you can't win championships by putting together a collection of superstars.
Think about it. Since their last World Series win, the Yankees have moved away from guys like Paul O'Neill, Scotty Brosius, David Cone and Mike Stanton and moved towards guys like Alex Rodriguez, Gary Sheffield, Carl Pavano and Kyle Farnsworth.
They get sucked into putting a team of superstars out on the field and they pay too much for not enough pitching. CC Sabathia may be the one exception, but who knows how he'll hold up with all those innings on his arm? What are they going to do with Sabathia if he can't handle the New York pressure and/or he breaks down in a few years? Sure, they could absorb $10M per year on Carl Pavano, but can they absorb more than double that on a guy who's supposed to be their ace for the next seven years?
And what are they going to do with a 25 million dollar, 36-year-old Mark Teixeira if he breaks down a bit down the road?
And don't even get me started on A.J. Burnett...
Until they prove that they can win with all of these superstars and this massive payroll, the Yankees are the biggest joke in the game, especially if they continue to lose their division to the Red Sox and the Rays.
P.S. - The Yanks will have to watch out for the Orioles in two or three years as well.
Posted by: blb | January 28, 2009 at 11:56 PM
I am a little confused by this...
2 weeks ago Sheets told the mets he wants 2/18
now he says he wont take a 1/5 with 4-5 in incentives because he wants a guaranteed contract.
So in my head when I put two and two together, his 2/18 with the mets was with no incentives? if so... whats the problem, 2/18 and no incentives? if the man pitches 15 games/year he is worth that contract.
Posted by: Fish&Mets | January 29, 2009 at 01:07 AM
im pulling for the mets to sign sheets but im a little surprised that the blue jays haven't been in the discussion either.
Posted by: Dave | January 29, 2009 at 08:11 AM
Until they prove that they can win with all of these superstars and this massive payroll, the Yankees are the biggest joke in the game, especially if they continue to lose their division to the Red Sox and the Rays.
You sound like an idiot again.
Continue to lose fo the Rays and Sox? Rays have one good year? Boston wins two titles in 90 years? Yankees lose 3 of their starting 5, starting catcher, starting dh, jeter was injured most of the year, etc.
As for Tex, you would have probably been ecstatic had Boston signed him no? But because it was the Yankees winning over the Sox, suddenly he isnt worth it.
Posted by: Tex's New Best Friend | January 29, 2009 at 09:23 AM
Tex's New Best Friend -
Typical Yankee fan. Quoting ancient history when we're only talking about the past decade.
Sure the Red Sox only won two titles in 90 years, but those two titles came during a time when the Yankees sold their soul to high-priced superstars and have won a grand total of zero titles.
And do you really think the Rays are going away? They're shaping up to be even better than they were last year and if they make the playoffs, the first-year jitters will be gone.
As for Tex, I couldn't care less who signed him. I'm an A's fan. I just think it's stupid to sign any player into his 37-year-old season.
Posted by: blb | January 29, 2009 at 01:44 PM
"They have made almost 10 times that amount of money since our last WS win."
And yet they still want the taxpayer to bail them out on the new stadium... and you will do it! That is the real joke.
Posted by: A | February 03, 2009 at 07:40 AM