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7:41pm: The Miami Herald has a list of eight players who agreed to terms with the A's for 2009. Daric Barton, Kurt Suzuki, Dallas Braden, Dana Eveland, Gio Gonzalez, Sean Gallagher, Henry Rodriguez and Landon Powell all agreed to one-year contracts.
12:27pm: According to a press release, via the Miami Herald, the Brewers have inked Tony Gwynn Jr., Manny Parra, Hernan Iribarren and Chase Wright to one-year contracts.
11:48am: The Orange County Register's Bill Plunkett has a few more from the Angels. Howie Kendrick, Dustin Moseley, Kevin Jepsen and Matt Brown have been signed to '09 contracts.
9:53am: MLB.com's Steve Gilbert reports that the Diamondbacks have agreed to one-year contracts with Yusmeiro Petit, Leo Rosales and Kyler Newby. They'll each make around $400K this year.
9:50am: According to a press release, via the Miami Herald, the Cubs have now settled with all 20 of their pre-arbitration players. Sean Marshall, Mike Fontenot and Micah Hoffpauir are some of the bigger names on the list.
9:49am: Jose De Jesus Ortiz of the Houston Chronicle reports that the Astros have renewed Hunter Pence's contract. He'll earn $450K in '09.
9:41am: SI.com's Jon Heyman has a few more pre-arbitration signings. 2008 Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum was inked for $650K, Angels pitcher Joe Saunders settled for $475K, Cubs reliever Carlos Marmol for $575K and Cubs infielder Ryan Theriot for $500K.
These are all guys without enough MLB service time to be eligible for salary arbitration.
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I know I made the comment in the other thread that I was under the assumption guys barely get anything unless they're arb -- so it looks like I was wrong -- but what is the motivation for this? Is it just to keep the player happy?
Posted by: CubbyFan23 | February 26, 2009 at 09:43 AM
only 650k for a cy young winner that a slap in the face for Tim Lincecum. They should have gave him more.
Posted by: derman1984 | February 26, 2009 at 09:44 AM
It's one of the highest pre-arb contracts I can think of, although I'm sure there's a few higher. Hardly a slap in the face.
Posted by: CubbyFan23 | February 26, 2009 at 09:46 AM
Carlos Silva is making 18 times as much as Lincecum. I know about all of the arb/team control stuff, but it's still crazy.
Posted by: daslied | February 26, 2009 at 09:48 AM
question. if a player is pre-arbitration does that limit what a team can offer them? so many rules are hard to keep up with.
if not, i can't imagine why SF wouldn't give Lincecum a big contract to give him some padding and a reason to want to stay there.
here's hoping the dodgers sweep him up when he's done with the gints.
Posted by: ThinkBlue | February 26, 2009 at 09:48 AM
Wow. I've seen someone do an 'All Remaining FA" team, but I wonder what an 'All Pre-Arb' team this year would look like, and what the payroll would be. Lots of young stars for little cash (reletively speaking, of course).
Posted by: Furrski | February 26, 2009 at 09:52 AM
Pretty sure they can give him whatever they want -- that being said, I'm not sure there's many teams who are going to voluntarily give away money when it gets to the millions. Plus, whatever the player makes going into arbitration serves as a "floor" for the arbitration hearing (I think it can now dip to 15% below current salary).
So if the Giants gave Lincecum 6 million to keep him happy, he came out and blew out his arm this year, the least he could get going into arbitration would be 15% less than 6 million, whereas where the contract stands now, he would just receive a modest amount. Hope that makes sense.
Posted by: CubbyFan23 | February 26, 2009 at 09:54 AM
Thanks CubbyFan - that makes sense to why the deals are so low, plus the players don't have any leverage. They are still under team ownership until after the arb years.
Posted by: MNCubsFan | February 26, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Hunter Pence is going to break out this year.
Posted by: RoyOswaltSteroidFree | February 26, 2009 at 10:38 AM
Homer.
Posted by: GScott | February 26, 2009 at 10:53 AM
Great explanation CubbyFan23. It doesn't make sense for a team to spend millions of dollars on a player just to buy his goodwill when they don't have too. The player can get all his "goodwill" when he goes to arb or free agency, if he's worth it. $650k is a pretty descent salary for someone in Lincecum's position and a nice gesture on the Giants part.
Posted by: pageian | February 26, 2009 at 11:56 AM
''if not, i can't imagine why SF wouldn't give Lincecum a big contract to give him some padding and a reason to want to stay there. ''
I'm pretty sure that Lincecum said he wanted to go year-by-year, as some players have decided to do before giving in years down the road. Some young players take the Evan Longoria, Jose Reyes route where they get their money up front at the first sign of breaking out, while others choose to go the other route.
Posted by: MattyMets | February 26, 2009 at 12:19 PM
"I'm pretty sure that Lincecum said he wanted to go year-by-year, as some players have decided to do before giving in years down the road. Some young players take the Evan Longoria, Jose Reyes route where they get their money up front at the first sign of breaking out, while others choose to go the other route."
Posted by: MattyMets | February 26, 2009 at 12:19 PM
I'm not sure if players actually prefer that over getting huge deals with a lot of $$$. I think it's just easier for some players to get something done for 1 year real quick and not have to worry about their contract situation for a bit. I think all players would love to get a long term deal but will settle for a short term as to not sign for lower value. Take Papelbon for instance. Sox and Pap couldn't agree on a longterm deal so he took a 1 y/6 mil deal.
Posted by: Umair | February 26, 2009 at 12:36 PM
I'm watching the Astros slap around this Tommy Hanson guy. What a show.
Posted by: RoyOswaltSteroidFree | February 26, 2009 at 01:10 PM
Nice Sinker though. or whatever that was Hanson struck out Lee with.
Posted by: RoyOswaltSteroidFree | February 26, 2009 at 01:12 PM
"It's one of the highest pre-arb contracts I can think of, although I'm sure there's a few higher. Hardly a slap in the face."
This is pretty high for pre-arb, though I am pretty sure the $900k Ryan Howard was the most that was on a standard pre-arb deal. Delmon Young signed an MLB contract after being drafted and the way it was structured, he had pretty high pre-arb numbers as well.
Posted by: AA | February 26, 2009 at 07:45 PM
Didnt Dallas Braden end up in Cincinnati??
Posted by: jason | February 26, 2009 at 07:58 PM
"Didnt Dallas Braden end up in Cincinnati??"
Nope.
He's got a really good shot at the A's rotation, especially since he is a groundballer and pitched well last year. Unless two of Outman, Anderson and Gio Gonzalez absolutely wow and shatter at ST (and both Anderson and Gio were not-so-solid in their ST debuts), Braden is quintessentially a lock for the rotation, at least to start the season off.
Posted by: melonis rex | February 26, 2009 at 11:06 PM
your right melonis, it was Dallas Buck i was thinking about
Posted by: jason | February 27, 2009 at 07:41 AM