Peavy Explains Veto

basic common knowledge is that peavy vetoed because he knew the mets would trade for him and he would win a championship this year

I'll take Chris Young from the Padres.

Peavy is making a lot of fans in Chicago.

"I'll take Chris Young from the Padres."

"If it takes Poreda, Richard and two more prospects, then I would rather not, to be honest.."

Obviously not for the same package, but the Padres owe us.

People shouldn't make Peavy out to be the bad guy. "All" he does is take the ball every 5 days, pitches his heart out and doesn't complain to the media about how f'd up ownership is. To think how competitive this or any other NL West team could be if the owners made better moves or maintained even an "avg" mlb payroll. 17th in attendance last years and 29th in payroll this year.

Good for him. Why the hell would he want to go to the sox? In SD they may suck, but at least he gets to live the good life in a tiny media market. If he gets shipped to chicago (cubs or sox), he's clearly the staff ace for teams vying for the playoffs. Chances are the cubs and sox won't make the playoffs this year, and they'll both pin it on him...

"maybe the veto had something to do with the the chisox losing 20-1 today...?"

Making this one of the top worst days in White Sox history.

Really though, Peavy had every right to reject... very definition of a "no trade clause." Anyone who's calling him a jerk is a fool. If the guy likes San Diego or doesn't want to go to the American League where he's more likely to get hammered and face about a year acclimating to a new team or doesn't want to play for Ozzie Guillen... so what.

And as to the comment: "Obviously not for the same package, but the Padres owe us." I read stupid comments on this site every day, that hits the top 10 list. Pads owe the White Sox nada. Deal was made in good faith and the White Sox this was a possible outcome. It's not like you lost your prospects.

"Good for him. Why the hell would he want to go to the sox? In SD they may suck, but at least he gets to live the good life in a tiny media market. If he gets shipped to chicago (cubs or sox), he's clearly the staff ace for teams vying for the playoffs. Chances are the cubs and sox won't make the playoffs this year, and they'll both pin it on him..."

msk86, I'm not sure what you are talking about, but the Cubs are one of the favorites to go to the world series this year, and if the Sox picked up Peavy, they would immediately be the team to beat in the AL central. That being said, I am not upset that Peavy rejected the deal. Poreda has tremendous upside, Richard should be a quality arm in the pen/back end starter for years to come, and the PTBN really scared me. Sending any combo of Jordan Danks/Allen/Flowers/Shelby/Carter/Hudson would have killed our farm system.

so when do the pedro to the sox rumors start up again?

good grief, what a day...

"I see no one has mentioned the fact that the Padres actually have a better record than the White Sox right now. Might be a contributing factor to him nixing that trade. /Obvious"

in a division they have no prayer of winning. the central figures to be pretty crap-tacular enough that the sox could fall ass-backwards into the playoffs again.

i struggled with understanding that as well. i'm sure it's been said over and over, but it was a juke by kenny. we had no real chance, he was just strokin' us...

the 3 billion we would have had to pay him can be spent MUCH more wisely.

Doesn't mean they're going to sustain it. Just like the Tigers. Anyone who thinks the Tigers pitching is going to sustain their record is crazy.

listening to Peter Gammons on Mike and Mike and it seems like Padres ownership was upset with his decision. Apparently they really to trade him because of money issues. Him doing this really devalues him in the long run for the Padres and the return will always go down.

that comment was directed at...

"I see no one has mentioned the fact that the Padres actually have a better record than the White Sox right now. Might be a contributing factor to him nixing that trade. /Obvious"

Of course, I know this. But my point is that the White Sox aren't going anywhere this year, even in the ridiculously weak AL Central. Why would he go from a non-contender to a slightly better non-contender, while he could enjoy the beautiful San Diego weather and wait until a real contender comes calling. Which they will, rest assured.

Agreeing with MattyMets here, it would be a good move for Kansas City if they can come up with the pieces to make the trade.

Cleveland could definitely use a Peavy, but they look more like a seller than a buyer right now. Texas might be a fit. They could probably use someone to lead the staff right now. Despite the fact that Arlington is a hitter's park, it could work because of the Rangers overloaded offense. The Rangers have prospects that they could move as well...

Any team could use Peavy, its a matter of who has and is willing to pony up the goods to get him...

Peavy isn't going to accept a deal to the Royals.

@ Derman: I don’t think it is just money issues for SD. They had a pretty significant gap on talent in their upper minors as well as their team controlled veterans. Once outside of Gonzales they have about a year & and option on Young, then if Headly pans out 3-4 years of him then they are down to likes of 2 years on Kouzmaoff and Hairston. That is not a lot to work with. A Peavy trade could greatly help with that and let the management avoid some of the more distasteful options.

@ Midtown: I like that idea. It would be another way for ownership to show their fans they are serious about trying to win. But I am clueless what the Royals would be offering in exchange.

@ Adunccaroo: Why not? It is not a pitching hostile park. There are only a few MLB cities near or in the south and most of them that can’t truthfully say that. The city itself is fairly well in the center of the country so less extreme travel conditions. I am not saying he would love it there just I don’t see red flags here yet.

It's just funny that in winter, he was basically packing his bags to come to the Cubs, whereas here, he claims San Diego is where he wants to be at. The Cubs and White Sox play in the same city, ya know. Funny excuses.

Peavy is a coward and this tells you about what kind of competitor he is. Just stay back with the losing Padres, collect your money, afraid to face AL clubs in a hitters park. I certainly wouldn't want to stay with a team that doesn't want me.

I think it's funny that not a single person here seems to be willing to look at this from the perspective of Peavy.

Maybe winning just isn't his absolute, number one priority, and I can totally agree with that.

He just starting living in a beautiful home in southern California with his family, vastly prefers the National League, and he has all the leverage in the world.

You can call Peavy a bitchh or a coward, but in reality he simply isn't those things. He's doing what he thinks is right for his family, and considering his situation, he's bound to get opportunities to play in places other than the south side.

Either way, Peavy's numbers could have really suffered in the move from the NL and Petco to the AL and Comiskey. I'm a Sox fan, and I really have no qualms that he vetoed the trade. The long term risks on that deal were HUGE.