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Pirates Acquire Hacker For Sanchez
2:21pm: According to MLB.com's Noah Coslov, the Yankees will receive right-handed reliever Romulo Sanchez. The 25-year-old was one of the Pirates' first cuts this spring. As of Friday, he had a 4.38 ERA and 15/5 K/BB ratio in 12 1/3 innings for Triple-A Indianapolis.
1:17pm: According to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette's Dejan Kovacevic, the Pirates have acquired minor league right-hander Eric Hacker from the Yankees. It's not yet clear who, or what, the Yanks were given in return.
Hacker, 26, was designated for assignment by the Yankees last Saturday. He posted a 2.43 ERA and a 115/37 K/BB ratio in 144 1/3 innings last season between Single-A Tampa and Double-A Trenton. He was tried at Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre this season and had a disappointing 7.88 ERA in three starts, prompting his departure.
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Heh - the Pirates love the Yankees' AAAA pitchers.
Posted by: V | May 16, 2009 at 01:35 PM
There's already enough hackers in the Pirates lineup...
Posted by: bigpat | May 16, 2009 at 02:00 PM
How is he a AAAA pitcher? He has a whopping three starts at AAA.
The others have worked out pretty well for the roles they're asked to play.
Posted by: LongSufferingBucsFan | May 16, 2009 at 03:58 PM
"Heh - the Pirates love the Yankees' AAAA pitchers."
That's funny because I'm pretty sure that Cashman would send Nady nd Marte back to Pittsburgh for Ohlendorf alone. The Yankees sure got the best of that deal!!!
Posted by: Slick | May 16, 2009 at 04:43 PM
"Heh - the Pirates love the Yankees' AAAA pitchers."
That's funny because I'm pretty sure that Cashman would send Nady nd Marte back to Pittsburgh for Ohlendorf alone. The Yankees sure got the best of that deal!!!
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Ummm....Nady was the 2nd best hitter on the Yanks squad behind Arod last year. If he hadn't hurt his elbow throwing then I'm sure he would be a good contributor this year as well. Ohlendorf would be a AAA pitcher for us as he would not have cracked the rotation behind CC, AJ, Wang, Pettite, Joba, Hughes and IPK. So while I'm happy for Ohlendorf, all things considered, if Marte and Nady were healthy, I'd make that trade for Karstens and Ohlendorf alllllll day long. No one can predict inuries but I can almost guarantee that had they been healthy, Nady and Marte would contribute WAAAAYYYYYYY more to the Yankees than Ohlendorf or Karstens would've. The only player I have some regret about is Tabata because he's very young and very talented. Ohlendorf has good stuff but had trouble getting it together as a starter or reliever.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | May 16, 2009 at 06:08 PM
"Ummm....Nady was the 2nd best hitter on the Yanks squad behind Arod last year"
An utter utter UTTER lie. Did you even look at what he did for us last season? .320/.474/.794. Good for a cool 105 OPS+. There were 4 or 5 better hitters than Nady on the team. Not to mention Damaso Marte has been downright rotten his entire tenure.
Getting rid of Hacker like this is bad enough, but the fact we DFAd him for BRETT TOMKO just makes this whole debacle appalling. Still nowhere near as bad as that trade last year. Cashman's going a little nutty.
Posted by: nut bunnies | May 16, 2009 at 08:31 PM
his line was .268/.320/.474/.794
btw
Posted by: nut bunnies | May 16, 2009 at 08:32 PM
Nady hit 12 hrs and 40 rbi since becoming a Yankee on July 26th. That was second to only Arod:
Arod- 14 hr and 42 rbi
Nady- 12 hr and 40 rbis
Giambi- 12 hr and 34 rbi
Damon- 11 hr and 32 rbi
Abreu- 9 hr and 32 rbi
Cano- 6 hr and 25 rbi
Jeter- 5 hr and 23 rbi
Matsui- 2 hr and 11 rbi
(DNP from June 22 to Aug 19th)
Posada- DNP after July 19th
So YES, he was picked up to drive in runs as a power hitting right hander and that is EXACTLY what he did. His line of .268/.320 was as impressive as he was with the Pirates @ .330/.383 but his power numbers paced better as a Yankee with a lot less at bats than as a Pirate:
360 at bats w/ 13 hrs and 57 rbi
247 at bats w/ 12 hrs and 40 rbis
RBI are subjective to the players in front of you but his power numbers were better.
Point blank he did his job and was better than all others not named Arod. With Posada and Matsui out he picked up a lot of the slack.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | May 16, 2009 at 10:12 PM
That should've read ...."His line of .268/.320 WASN'T as impressive as he was with the Pirates...."
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | May 16, 2009 at 10:13 PM
Also, it;s so short-sighted to evaluate a trade like the Nady and Marte for Karsten, Ohlendorf and Tabata deal. WHen it was made the only player I had reservations over trading was Tabata simply because he was very young and has such a high ceiling and played a position where we desperately need youth and athleticism. Prior to that trade:
Kartsens: AAA pitcher who was shelled in his last stint with the Yanks in '07 @ 1-4 w/ a 11.05 ERA
Ohlendorf: 6.53 ERA in 4- innings. He always had good stuff and ko'd 35 in 40 innings, but he also was hit pretty hard and allowed 69 runners in those 40 innings and gave up 7 hrs. He was VERY hittable.
Ohlendorf was pitching out of the pen for us and just didn't figure as a long-term contributor.
Marte was 4-0 w/ a 3/47 era and ko'd 47 in 42 innings.
Ohlendorf has gotten off to a great start...in the NL Central @ 4-3 w/ a 3.77 era but his other stats like the bb/ko are suspect @ 9/22 in 44 innings. Two of his wins have come against 2 of the worst NL offenses in San Diego and FLorida who rank among the leagues worst offensive rankings. Let's see him pitch thru July before we label him a stud pitcher.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | May 16, 2009 at 10:31 PM
"Also, it;s so short-sighted to evaluate a trade like the Nady and Marte for Karsten, Ohlendorf and Tabata deal."
The Pirates got Daniel McCutchen in the trade as well.
Posted by: LongSufferingBucsFan | May 17, 2009 at 02:17 AM
"Nady hit 12 hrs and 40 rbi since becoming a Yankee on July 26th. That was second to only Arod:"
Yes, home runs and RBIs. The true way to identify talent in 2009.
Get with the times, dinosaur. He was bad.
Nady's been below average for the Yankees. We gave up too much for him and a terrible reliever. He's a league average guy and we gave up one of our top prospects for him.
Posted by: nut bunnies | May 17, 2009 at 02:56 AM
Ok, I'm the dinosaur? WHy was he traded for in the 1st place? They needed a right handed power hitter, especially since Posada, a switch hitter, was out for the season. What did he end up doing? Being the 2nd best run producer behind Arod. Maybe 14 hrs and 40 rbi mean nothing to you but until mlb changes it's rules and Wins/Losses are decided by how many times you get on base vs how many times a runner scores then I would suggest that he did his ob and did it very well as a RUN PRODUCER. Yes rbi are VERY subjective but bottom line, when you compare 1 player on a team vs another player on the same team he was VERY valuable for us last year.
Compare his Aug/Sept production against the best in the AL last year:
Nady: 10 hr/36 rbi
Youkilis: 11 hr/45 rbi
Bay: 9 hr/37 rbi
Ortiz: 9 hr/42 rbi
Dye: 9 hr/29 rbi
Thome: 14 hr/29 rbi
Cabrera: 18 hr/48 rbi
Ordonez: 7 hr/41 rbi
Guererro: 9 hr/33 rbi
Teixeira: 13 hr/42 rbi
Morneau: 5 hr/43 rbi
Ibanez: 8 hr/47 rbi
Pena: 13 hr/47 rbi
Hamilton: 7 hr/26 rbi
What I don't get is that Boston and Jason Bay are lauded for what he accomplished last year but somehow the Nady trade was bad for the Yanks when in reality Nady's power production numbers were just as good as Bay's were after he joined Boston? AND at the end of the day Boston traded Manny Ramirez, Craig Hansen and Brandon Moss in exchange for ason Bay, while the Yanks traded Ohlendorf, Karstens, McCutchen and Tabata.
So far Ohelndorf has had a decent start while Karstens and McCutchen are no more than AAA pitchers at this point. Tabata is struggling in AA but is only 20 and could rebound. I would suggest that talent wise, Boston gave up more than we did to get the same 2008 numbers. Nady was plain and simple among the best offensive power bats in the AL after being traded to NY.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | May 17, 2009 at 10:39 AM
You guys are putting WAAAAY too much effort and research into this argument.
First of all...anyone who thinks that how a pitcher pitches in the NL Central equates to how he would do in the AL Beast is a total moron. You can easily tack on another 1.50 on the ERA for the league/division adjustment. CC made that division look like little leaguers last year...he's in the late 3's in ERA now.
Karstens was horrible with the Yankees and he's horrible now. Ohlendorf has a plus arm, but always had poor location. He's doing well now, but again...a 3.77 pitching against the flippin Astros and Brewers isn't like facing the Sox, Rays and Jays. Even Balt can mash in the AL Beast.
Tabata has a chance to be good but you need to give up something to get quality. Nady was DECENT last year for the Yankees. He had a hot start and then went pretty cold...going back toward more of what he REALLY is...a nice .280/.320 20 75 type of player. Marte has been crap...but nobody ever questioned his stuff.
If I was the Yankees, I would have DEFINITELY done that deal...they needed a lefty RP and a power RH batter and they got both for 2 AAAA pitchers and an A ball prospect. It was a no-brainer....and if Nady wasn't on the DL and hitting .280 7 20...none of you nit wit Bucs fans would even be on here.
Posted by: jjyankeesfan2 | May 17, 2009 at 11:36 AM
jj: Yeah I know I wasted a lot of time w/ the research but I just can't stand it when people say things w/o any evidence to prove their point. Nady served his purpose and that was bring power production from the right hand side and to add protection in the line up. Marte, despite the bloated ERA in a small sample size, was the quality LF arm we need out of the pen with his 24 k's in 18 innings and 1 hr allowed. His control was definetly iffy at best with 10 walks. Meanwhile, Ohlendorf and Karstens had NO chance of being meaningful contributors, not when the Yanks had AJ, CC, Perez, Lowe, Dempster, etc available as FA that winter. Tabata was really the only player that had long-term viability with the Yanks and maybe to a lesser extent McCutchen. McCutchen has good numbers but I'm not sure if his stuff translates as good against mlb hitters.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | May 17, 2009 at 11:58 AM
"So far Ohelndorf has had a decent start while Karstens and McCutchen are no more than AAA pitchers at this point."
That's a flat out, Yankee spun, lie.
Posted by: LongSufferingBucsFan | May 17, 2009 at 12:44 PM
"So far Ohelndorf has had a decent start while Karstens and McCutchen are no more than AAA pitchers at this point."
That's a flat out, Yankee spun, lie.
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Hahaha....really?
1-"So far Ohelndorf has had a decent start..."
Thus far he's 4-3, 3.77 era in 7 starts.
TRUE
2- "...Karstens and McCutchen are no more than AAA pitchers at this point."
Key words...."at this point:
Karstens: 1-2, 5.66 ERA in 6 starts 13 walks/14 strike outs.
McCutchen: Hasn't pitched a single inning in the majors all year. His AAA stats are decent/good but he has ZERO IP for a team 6 games under .500.
So yes....Ohlendorf is off to a decent start meanwhile neither Karstens or MCCutchen have distinguished themselves as anything more than AAA/AAAA pitchers. That could change but so far it is what it is.
I like to use a thing called "statistics" and common sense to back up what I say. What do you use?
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | May 17, 2009 at 01:49 PM