What Manny's Suspension Means For The Dodgers

I'm going with Gammons on this. He knows Manny and has been rather harsh in his criticism and open Red Sox homerism. If he is saying Manny didn't do anything intentionally wrong and didn't take steroids, I am believing it.

What this means to the Dodgers is that they will in all likelihood fall back to the pack a bit now and who knows if they win the west now. The Manny that returns in July could be a shell of the player we've seen, as could A-Rod. This is similar to replacing a new supercharged hemi motor with a 4 cylinder motor with 175k. Face it LA, just like the fans in Boston, YOU'VE BEEN DUPED!

Funny how Boston fans change their tune on Manny. Especially after he helped win them 2 championships, they proceed on completely trashing him. Dopes.

appreciate, don't hate.

1. The Dodgers are still the favorites, even with the Manny news. They are still that much better than any team in the NL West, unless someone starts breaking out (Colorado and Arizona).

2. The Dodgers will make some kind of trade because Colletti is at the helm of that team (I don't think LA needs to make any trade unless another team gets close; they're still the frontrunners). The Dodgers don't need an ace, although going after a midrotation type to solidify that back would be nice. Or, they may trade for a bat to get Pierre out of the lineup.

3. Manny won't opt out his contract, which means he won't be in the mix for 2010 Yankees' DH. Which is good for Matsui, Damon, and even Nady's stocks, along with any other FA DH type.

"What this means to the Dodgers is that they will in all likelihood fall back to the pack a bit now and who knows if they win the west now. The Manny that returns in July could be a shell of the player we've seen, as could A-Rod. This is similar to replacing a new supercharged hemi motor with a 4 cylinder motor with 175k. Face it LA, just like the fans in Boston, YOU'VE BEEN DUPED!

Posted by: RED SOX DYNASTY! | May 07, 2009 at 03:28 PM"

Shell of the player we have seen? Oh you mean like David Ortiz? Shut up you troll.

I wonder if it's not so much about being duped as teams now have to accept the risk that the slugger they're signing may or may not have been or even may be on PEDs.

And at least for the Dodgers the bottom fell out of the market enough that we aren't shackled to a mammoth contract like the Yankees are with A-Rod.

sheets is not going to sign a 2 year deal for $5mm. He is going to hope to return this year and perform well enough for a contender that he can command his normal value on the open market. Worst case he looks to get a nice incentive deal for 1 year to re-establish himself. and there is no way it will be for only $5mm

661dodger, you're one of the first people ive encountered who believe that papi was using steroids and has since stopped. hitting 231 home runs in 6 years. last year the durability that steroids diminishes came out and he hasnt been the same since.

"661dodger, you're one of the first people ive encountered who believe that papi was using steroids and has since stopped. hitting 231 home runs in 6 years. last year the durability that steroids diminishes came out and he hasnt been the same since.

Posted by: fgsfsfbbbrd | May 07, 2009 at 04:36 PM"

You do not go from Monster hitter too 4A, either he is doing some sort of PED or he is much older than he says. I really hope hes not. The game keeps taking it on the chin.

661dodgerblue ...

Jim Rice and Dale Murphy might disagree with you.

A steep decline in production can be attributable to many things beyond steroid use or age. If I recall correctly, didn't Papi have an injury? To his wrist? You know, that part of the body that is most responsible for your power in the swing?

I don't know if Ortiz used steroids or not. I just know that there are lots of possibilities for his production decline. To automatically assume that guys who undergo performance declines are roid users is simply unfair to the players.

I never listen to a word Gammons has to say because it always comes from Boston and not from any other source. It is just too bad that the Dodgers can't cut Manny loose altogether.

Sheets would NOT be able to get a 2 year $20 mil deal until he's proven himself to be 100% healthy. I could certainly see a $5 mil base with incentives but who'll committ $20 mil for a SP with a history of arm/shoulder injuries who just came off of a maor shoulder surgery?

"If they did that, I would never show up to that Stadium again."

Sad statement. I don't think the Dodgers should cut Manny, but I was a fan before Manny, and I will be a fan long after Manny. I will go to the same amount of games this year as I would have with him. i will root for them just as hard.

On second thought, maybe they should cut him so all the fair weather fans stay at home.

"If It wasn't for fair weather fans thedodgers would move idiot, especially with that cheap ass owner! Your just stuck on loving the tradition not the past 20+ years!"

He's baaaaaack.

Who do you think brings in the money?fair weather fans that just want to have a good time, fans that show up late and leave early, so if it wasn't for those fans we would be the marlins, cuz la is a basketball town for that last 20+ years!

"A basketball town with one of the highest grossing baseball teams.

Posted by: rthlshrtbrkr | May 07, 2009 at 08:18 PM"

Just do not engage with this guy. He is under the impression that he the most passionate dodger fan in southern cali. He is worse than Bill Plaschke.

And Dodger fans do not lose faith, Joe Torre will rally the kids and this team push on til June.

"Sheets would NOT be able to get a 2 year $20 mil deal until he's proven himself to be 100% healthy. I could certainly see a $5 mil base with incentives but who'll committ $20 mil for a SP with a history of arm/shoulder injuries who just came off of a maor shoulder surgery?

Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | May 07, 2009 at 06:42 PM"

Exactly, he might not even be ready this year. If hes at 80 percent come July I would be amazed.

I don't thing we've been duped, and since I have little respect for jealous Red Sox fans, WHO CARES?

I would imagine Blake will play some in left field, he's an experience outfielder and Dewitt may be called back up, although Xavier Paul was called up this afternoon. He was a star in spring training.

I would speculate the only pitcher the Dodgers MAY take is Pedro Martinez for a short contract. They have been interested in him for awhile anyway.

The real Dodger pitching strength is in their bullpen, arguably the best in baseball, so they really don't need to do anything stupid.

The Dodgers are a talented young team quickly coming of age, they may slip a bit, but they will be OK.

"I would imagine Blake will play some in left field, he's an experience outfielder and Dewitt may be called back up, although Xavier Paul was called up this afternoon. He was a star in spring training."

Exactly what I hope. Blake versatility will come into play. Blake should bat 7th while playing left and Dewitt should bat 8th while playing third.
If Russel Martin actually remembers how to recognize a ball from a strike, we will be fine. Oh and Furcal looks like crap but the Offense is still chuggin.

"The real Dodger pitching strength is in their bullpen, arguably the best in baseball, so they really don't need to do anything stupid."

No the bullpen scares me. Broxton is a shut down closer by definition. Kuo is most likely done. Wade has looked decent, Belesario(sp) just throws and whatever happens, happens. McDonald should regain some form. Mota is garbage, Troncoso should start but hes a monster as well. If Schmidt ever comes back he should relieve.

"So far so good - 6 runs in the first. Granted against the Nats."

So far, so good -- so what? ;)

I thought money from suspensions and fines went to a charity fund and not back into the teams pockets. But maybe that is just when it is a 100K fine. 7-8M is a considerable chunk of change.

>The Dodgers, like the Yankees with Alex Rodriguez, have been "duped," but there's nothing they can do about it.

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They can just fire the roidz twins and be done with them. Al Davis fired some player (QB, I think) and refused to pay the remainder of his contract. The same thing could happen to Roidmirez and ARoid. I don't think any court in the country would side with dopers who broke the law.

haha, exactly

20 of 28, but with only 15 starts and a bunch of early exits. He is on pace for about 115 games and roughly 390 PA for the season. However, he hasn’t taken his suspension yet, he has only been suspended once, and he is without a DL trip to this point – I expect that number should go down.

You sure you don’t want him back? :(

Bumping an Ump in a tirade. To his credit, it was a questionable call. But still, he blew his top.

Making it worse, he insisted on appealing the suspension instead of taking it during a time when nagging injuries were going to keep him out of the lineup anyway. He could have gotten away without having to actually spend an extra day off the field - but he claimed it was the "principle" of the matter and decided to fight for his pride instead of do what was best for the club.

Seems to have irked Lou a bit as well. When asked by a reporter why Milton wasn’t serving the games while he was out with injury anyway, he replied with only a “good question”. Lou then called Milton into his office for a little meeting about a couple things. And all of this was in the first two weeks of the season. He made his presence known pretty quick in Chicago :/