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Gammons On Street, Amezaga, Tejada

It's a fantasy baseball show, but Peter Gammons discussed the trade market on ESPN's Fantasy Focus today. Here are his latest rumors:

  • The Red Sox like Ryan Spilborghs, but the Phillies and other teams are interested, too. Plus, the Rockies are looking much better under Jim Tracy, so they're not dealing yet.
  • The Angels have targeted Huston Street, in case the Rockies become sellers.
  • Several teams have interest in Matt Murton 
  • Gammons compares Eric Young Jr. to a young Chone Figgins because of his versatility.  
  • Another versatile player, Alfredo Amezaga, would interest 6-8 contenders if the Marlins shopped him, but they're not about to make him available.  
  • The market for Miguel Tejada should be pretty good, if the Astros decide to trade him. The Red Sox could be among the interested teams. Tejada would be a good fit for the Cardinals, but Gammons doesn't see Drayton McLane allowing Ed Wade to trade a key player to their divisional rival.


Comments

"The Red Sox like Ryan Spilborghs, but the Phillies and other teams are interested, too. Plus, the Rockies are looking much better under Jim Tracy, so they're not dealing yet."

So the Red Sox, who already have Bay, Ellsbury, Drew, Baldelli and Kotsay, are looking at Spilborghs, but the White Sox aren't?

Kenny, you better be in on Spilly, because the sight of a Scott Podsednik-Brian Anderson-Jermaine Dye outfield is mildly infuriating.

Please Kenny, PLEASE go find a god damn center fielder!

"Another versatile player, Alfredo Amezaga, would interest 6-8 contenders if the Marlins shopped him, but they're not about to make him available."

Is this the same Amezaga that's posted a Bonifacio-like .217/.267/.261 line so far this season, along with a flashy .251/.311/.341 career line?

I know he's a great defender in center field and he's above average at shortstop and second base too, but doesn't that bat concern some teams?

He's a nice defensive replacement and bench guy though.

Tejada does make alot of sense for the BoSox if they were willing to take on a good amount of salary. There isn't a whole ton of power left in his bat and he isn't a great SS but he can still hit obviously.

I wouldn't bet it would cost any of the BoSox's very top prospects to get Tejada for half a year. I feel like he could be in the Masterson, Lugo, thow-in + cash range, but the prospects obviously depend on how much salary is taken on and how much the Stros are in sell mode.

"Kenny, you better be in on Spilly, because the sight of a Scott Podsednik-Brian Anderson-Jermaine Dye outfield is mildly infuriating.

Please Kenny, PLEASE go find a god damn center fielder!"

I couldn't agree more. Spilborghs would be IDEAL, but I'd even settle for Pierre at this point. Mo-dammit I can't wait for Q to get back.

scribbletone, what think you about Ramirez's D at SS?

bbxxj, I think that if the Sox pay his full salary, they could get him for next to nothing. Masterson is WAY too valuable for a 35+ year old SS, seemingly in the final stages of decline. Maybe two B prospects, but certainly not a guy like Masterson.

"scribbletone, what think you about Ramirez's D at SS?"

You know, I actually kind of like him there. He seems to have a decent amount of the actions down, and he has the tools to man the position. The +5.5 UZR/150 this year definitely makes me feel better as well.

I still wish that he would start to hit with some authority again. He's hitting with a far more patient approach than he had in 2008, but outside of his walk and strikeout rates, his numbers are down across the board. Obviously the low BABIP doesn't help, and he's picked it up a little bit of late, but with the lack of offense from center, second and third, the Sox really need Alexei to hit better.

Sure hope the Sox wouldnt give up Masterson for Tejada. Hes still a pretty good prospect. Tejada is a good hitter, but so it Lowrie. It seems like giving up a good, cheap prospect for 3 months of a nice upgrade, but not huge upgrade is a bit dramatic. If Ortiz starts hitting suddenly the sox are team without many holes.

Thinking outside the box, Tejada at 3B for the White Sox with Beckham moving to 2B? It would add some much needed hitting to the line-up.

.299/.354/.388 with a 11.6 UZR/150 in CF

I know Pods isn't 11.6 good in CF and he has no power but .299/.354 is pretty darn servicable in CF if Q is back to play left. Adding Spilborghs would still be a good idea in case Pods can't stick in CF or his numbers fade or just for better OF depth.

bbxxj, im a huge redsox fan and my first team of choice is huston are you serious Lugo no way in hell do the astros take him becaue of what happened while he was here yall are always trying to throw in lugo in the trades no one wants him no one is taking him redsox are stuck with him unless they release him

Sure hope the Sox wouldnt give up Masterson for Tejada. Hes still a pretty good prospect. Tejada is a good hitter, but so it Lowrie. It seems like giving up a good, cheap prospect for 3 months of a nice upgrade, but not huge upgrade is a bit dramatic. If Ortiz starts hitting suddenly the sox are team without many holes.

Posted by: chicubs25 | June 12, 2009 at 11:48 AM

This is very true. If the Sox pick up all of his salary then they could get him for next to nothing. The Stros would probably ask for a few low level prospects with moderate upside to help their dreadful minor league depth.

bbxxj, im a huge redsox fan and my first team of choice is huston are you serious Lugo no way in hell do the astros take him becaue of what happened while he was here yall are always trying to throw in lugo in the trades no one wants him no one is taking him redsox are stuck with him unless they release him

Posted by: AJ | June 12, 2009 at 11:54 AM

He would just be a throw in with the Sox throwing in salary. If the Sox were giving up Masterson then they wouldn't have to give up really anything else of any value. The Stros would at least get someone who could play SS while they rebuilt their talent base.

I agree with AJ. There's no way Stros take Lugo back. They dumped him long ago and never looked back. Sox would either have to flip him to another team desperate to get a SS and they would give up basically nothing for him while the Sox would have to eat alot of his salary.

THe big issue here is Lugo has negative value and Tejada has fairly positive value. He is hitting pretty well and only has half a season left on his contract. Lugo has a couple (with a vesting option that as of now I don't see kicking in) So how does Theo make this work? Any ideas?

If a trade does happen i see keppinger playing short stop for the astros, no way does lugo come over here face it redsox are stuck with him

".299/.354/.388 with a 11.6 UZR/150 in CF"

Obviously, my frustrations with Chicago's outfield have far more to do with Brian Anderson and DeWayne Wise than Podsednik, who has somehow been a pleasant surprise for them.

His strikeout rate is half of his career rate, his BABIP isn't at an unsustainable level, and thus far he's played some really nice defense for them.

I'd expect him to regress at least a tad, but if he can stay close to these levels all season, then I would at least be satisfied with what Pods has done.

My biggest problem with Podsednik is that he was a BELOW replacement level player from 2006-2008, and yet he's now suddenly having a resurgence?

They're either stuck with Lugo and his contract or just his contract

I actually like Tejada to Sox. The Getz/Fields tandem is a worse offensive (and defensive) black hole than Pods. Tejada at 3B (Sox eat salary, no prospects) would be a great idea.

"Kenny, you better be in on Spilly, because the sight of a Scott Podsednik-Brian Anderson-Jermaine Dye outfield is mildly infuriating."

Yeah, KW should be in on Spilly and every other available decent CF.

btw, scribble, do you think KW's got some large-scale shocker trade up his sleeve? That's what I'm sensing. Some impact player.

"btw, scribble, do you think KW's got some large-scale shocker trade up his sleeve? That's what I'm sensing. Some impact player."

Well, I mean, to be fair, you already saw that earlier this month with the Peavy deal.

That clearly showed everyone that Kenny thinks that his team is in need of a monster addition, and honestly I would love to see them add some sort of top starter or impact leadoff hitter.

And I think the Tejada idea is a good one as well, so long as the price is limited and Tejada shows that he can play a solid third base.

I'm really sick of pitchers getting to rest as they quickly go through Fields, Anderson, Ramirez and Getz to finish off our batting order.

Oh wow just eat the salary and no prospects for tejada yeah the astros are gonna be okay with that why dont you just eat the salary for oswalt and you can take him 2 there is berkman 2 if you want him

Stros will want something in return no matter what.

"Oh wow just eat the salary and no prospects for tejada yeah the astros are gonna be okay with that why dont you just eat the salary for oswalt and you can take him 2 there is berkman 2 if you want him"

Tejada is a slightly above average player on a one year deal making $13M.

If the Astros want the other team to eat the remainder of Tejada's salary, then they won't receive much more than a prospect or two.

Ideally, I would absolutely freak out if we could pry Tejada and Michael Bourn from Houston in some bigger deal, but I doubt that Houston wants to give up one of their like three decent young players.

Tejada and Bourn for Josh Fields and Jordan Danks?

I really love Danks, but he's a couple years away and Bourn would be a nearly ideal fit for that team if he's capable of getting on base in the AL.

"Well, I mean, to be fair, you already saw that earlier this month with the Peavy deal."

Oh yeah. I just think the impact player will be a hitter, not a pitcher. Sox need rotation depth more than they need a top rotation guy.

The Sox are going to clean the system for a hitter. Not necessarily a CFer, maybe even a good defensive corner OF (I mean, the Sox DID put Griffey in CF last year) who could play CF once in a while. Something weird. Preferrably some guy who can play multiple positions decently and do something with the bat. Who's available?

Quentin won't be back for a while, so trading for a corner OF might make some sense...

Well, not necessarily clean the system, but give up value. Nobody wants to clean the system.

Scribbletone, i like your trade but we can not give up Danks. I would change up some of the Sox players, I think the trade would go something like:

Tejada and Bourn for Fields, Harrell, Anderson, and Shelby. Shelby is not as highly thought of by the Sox. And in a few years you would have a Of of Bourn-Danks-Q.
That's one of the youngest and best of in the MLB.
Sox need to make this trade happen. With Bourn there, there's no need for Anderson.

Since the Cards are in the same division the price would b pretty high for them. But if they took Tejeda's contract and sent a guy like Mortensen or Walters plus Brian Anderson and Jon Jay or Pete Kozma the Astros couldn't possibly say no... Right?

I would rather have Tejeda than Holliday. We have a need at third and short. not leftfield.

What do you guys think?

"Scribbletone, i like your trade but we can not give up Danks."

Yeah, I hesitated to put Danks in that scenario, and I tried to figure out ways to get that deal done using quantity but I'm just not sure that the White Sox have the pieces.

Then again, Danks is already in AA and he's hit well at every level he's played at since his debut last season.

He's shown some decent patience, developing power and a good line drive swing, and he seems to have the athleticism to be at least average in center field going forward.

Honestly, now that I think about it I probably would hesitate to include Danks in that offer, considering how bad Bourn has previously been and the short length of Tejada's contract.

" But if they took Tejeda's contract and sent a guy like Mortensen or Walters plus Brian Anderson and Jon Jay or Pete Kozma the Astros couldn't possibly say no... Right?"

The Astros could definitely say no, as the upside on those guys is pretty limited and few teams like to trade within the division.

But that's not the worst offer by any means.

Honestly, if refuse to deal Tejada to the Cardinals just because we are in the same division, that would be dumb on their part. We may be the team that would need Tejada the most. If Tejada is being dealt, then obviously the Astros aren't in it and there is a very slim chance that we give Tejada an extension. So what exactly would be the problem? Astros are out of it, Cards won't resign him, Astros dump salary, and Astros get young prospects in return. Don't see why it would be a problem.

Sorry, its supposed to say, "Honestly, if the Astros refuse" Forgot to put that in.

Ideally, Cards get Tejada and put him at SS then go get either Chone Figgins from the Angels or Mark Derosa from the Indians and put that person at 3rd.

Brian Anderson can rly hit but so can Molina. So he wont ever get a chance in STL and he needs to b moved. I watched him hit and he will b solid in the big leagues.

Kozma wont ever hit but he will eventually make the bigs by playin great D.

Mayb if we threw in Jess Todd along with Mortensen or Walters.

Jon Jay will someday b a very solid platoon OFer. Mayb an every day guy.

if we eat the contract we should b able to get him. if they fall out of the race completely i dont see why we could not get him.

"Honestly, if refuse to deal Tejada to the Cardinals just because we are in the same division, that would be dumb on their part. We may be the team that would need Tejada the most. If Tejada is being dealt, then obviously the Astros aren't in it and there is a very slim chance that we give Tejada an extension. So what exactly would be the problem? Astros are out of it, Cards won't resign him, Astros dump salary, and Astros get young prospects in return. Don't see why it would be a problem."

I'm not saying that the Astros would refuse to make the deal.

I'm saying that the Astros would ask for more from the Cardinals than they would from say, the White Sox, because the Cardinals play in the same division. The Cards would have to pay a premium.

As I said, it's not a horrible offer, the one you suggested, but I'm just not convinced that it'd be the best one that they would receive considering Tejada's offense this year and his defense last year.

All I know is the Cards are tied for first place now.. Again. and that If John Mozeliak is going to make a move he needs to start doing it now. This team has potential to take it all this year, but were missing 2 peices. maybe.. Peavy, and mark de rosa. am i asking for too much there?

Fuentes already blows a lot of games for the Angels. Why would they want somebody else to blow the lead?

Why would the Astros trade their best hitter at this time of the year?

They need him if they are going to make the Playoffs.

I say they should trade OF Carlos Lee for young prospects.

I know I know... Carlos Lee is hitting .320, 10 Homeruns, and about 40 RBIs. But hes getting old and we can get ALOT of talent for him. Get the youth back and get ready for years to come.

Solution: Trade OF Carlos Lee for you talent. Become a bit young again and grow the franchise.

Btw, Astros WONT trade Tejada to the Cards.

WHY WOULD THEY TRADE THEIR BEST HITTER TO A RIVAL TEAM SUCH AS THE CARDS!?!?

Especially to a team in our division.

If they were to trade him, they would trade him to the AL for young prospects. But that wont be happening.

Let me let you in on a little insight death. cyanide, Carlos Lee has a full no trade clause that goes through 2010. As much sense as that would make... there's no way that's happening because Carlos has a cattle ranch outside of Houston that he probably almost cares about more than baseball itself.

About Miguel Tejada. In Drayton's warped world he still thinks this team can contend. He never thinks that they won't be able to, even though everyone and their dog knows that it won't. It hasn't helped that they have made late season runs in 3 of their last 4 seasons. The only way they would trade Tejada is if we start losing... which is not happening right now. The Astros have won their last 4 series.

I really would like to know what Ed Wade would/could do if he was not completely saddled by Drayton McLane Jr.

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