Odds & Ends: Chipper, Tigers, Padres, Diamondbacks

If the Braves trade Jones, they'll be in the running for "most hated team by their hometown" award. Smoltz, Glavine, and Jones. Getting rid of all three faces of their franchise would be a great way to alienate the rest of their fans.

Where did he even think of such an asinine idea? The day the Braves trade Chipper will be the same day Jo-Jo Reyes stops appearing in trades that people throw out.

Furman is a old fart still thinking that it's WWII still going on...That guy has been a legend sports writer in atlanta for years but it comes a time where he doesn't even make sense anymore...
No way you could trade chipper without his permission and he would probably veto any deal anyways. What a waste of an article that I took the time to read...

To Furman,

You suck.

Furman Bisher is an idiot.. please do not post more articles by him. I'm sure the readers of this site could spend there valuable time reading something besides his garbage.

Just to echo every other poster, Furman Bisher is way beyond his time.

I actively avoid anything he writes because he possesses a unique ability to actually make me genuinely mad reading about sports.

The guy is the quintessential crotchety old man who hasn't met an issue he didn't feel the need to take an inflammatory and oppositional view on in the last 10 years. If you have been wondering where all those balls you hit into the neighbor's yard as a kid ended up, Bisher's garage would be a good place to start.

Put Chipper Jones on the market, is he crazy? Chipper Jones is much more than a franchise player, he practically is the franchise. That is just as bad or maybe worse than if the Yankees trade Derek Jeter, the Cardinals trade Albert Pujols, or the Phillies trading Chase Utley.

Also, why are we supposed to care that the Pirates signed a 9th round draft pick?

The Braves are messing up bigtime lately. Instead of signing impact players in free agency they make bad trades with bottom feeders for average players with no upside and high salary like McLouth.

Instead of signing impact players in free agency they make bad trades with bottom feeders for average players with no upside and high salary like McLouth.

Posted by: optionn | June 20, 2009 at 02:38 PM

Jair Jurrjens, Rafael Soriano, Nate McLouth, and so on have no upside? LOL

The Braves are messing up bigtime lately. Instead of signing impact players in free agency they make bad trades with bottom feeders for average players with no upside and high salary like McLouth.

Posted by: optionn | June 20, 2009 at 02:38 PM

They tried to sign plenty of players in free agency...most of them said no. Lowe has certainly had an "impact" though. As far as McClouth being overpaid, you realize he only makes 2.5 million this year don't you? McClouth could find a starting spot on just about any team in baseball. Young outfielders with "upside" aren't usually on team's dump list when they rebuild...McClouth has about as much "upside" as you can get without trading top prospects.

Yeah Bisher!

After we trade Chipper for a couple of prospects, we should trade McCann to the Mets for David Murphy and Ryan Church and then trade Tommy Hanson to the Phillies for Jamie Moyer! Moyer's old right?! He can be the new Smoltzy!
THEN we can trade Freedie Freeman for Mark DeRosa and Heyward for Xavier Nady! Brilliant idea! After that, we can make Julio Franco our new 3rd baseman/hitting coach!
Hell, Let's make Frank Wren play RF as well!

The Braves reputation isnt that bad IMO. People go play in other cities. MJ didnt finish with the Bulls. I dont blame Smoltz or the Braves for that situation. They both did whats best for them. As for Glavine, he should be thankful we are paying him a couple hundred bucks this year. The whole trade Chipper thing doesnt even merit a comment.

the mistake the made was trading so many good player for Tex,and he sucked

Raymond

tex was a great pickup sure we gave up a lot but andrus wasnt going to play because we have escobar and salty wasnt going to play because we have mccann and harrisons been ok and we dont know wat feliz will do
plus we still have a top 5 farm system

Wait a minute! The Padres need to get younger????!!!! This is news to everyone!
Are the padres currently in the top three worst baseball franchises?
The padres have almost nothing in their system. They have been cheap in the draft. They had a great trade lined up with the braves, wussed out, and now peavy is on the dl. Giles is playing terribly. They could have moved him in the off-season for something valuable. A-Gon needs to be moved for four or five young guys. They have blanks he needs to play first. They have no young pitching and no hitters. Imagine if they moved peavy for Boyer, Escobar, hernandez, morton. A-Gon would bring at least one front line pitching and hitting prospect and another two decent players.Heath bell should be moved too. he could bring back two solid players. The padres could have refueled their major league and minor league rosters by moving three or four guys. They need a complete rebuild.

Furman Bishop is a moron.

bravoboy10 I see your point but you never know what could have happened i mean they could have got hurt but the braves rotation couldve been great we wouldnt of had any expierience in our rotatation

Tex didnt make the Brave better just thinner and I truly agree with braveboy10 just think of thatof, Jurrjens, Feliz, Harrison, and Medlen.

My only question about Chipper is this, is someone who misses 40 games a year somebody you can have as your key player. I have always loved Chipper, but the idea of trading him has crossed my mind. I'm not happy with our ownership situation at all, Ted Turner would've done what was necessary to keep Chip and get better players. I remember in JS book Built To Win, he references signing Maddux and how he was torn between going after Barry Bonds or Maddux, and Ted Turner told him "You want em' both, go get em'". My only point is with the team's situation financially, if you can get a couple young guys who are major league ready, I think you may have to at least listen. Cincinatti got a lot more competitive after Griffey and Dunn left and Tim Kurkjian of espn said repeatedly during spring training that those guys dominated the clubhouse and made other players uncomfortable. Now we don't have a Joey Votto to take the reins but we do have Brian McCann. I just don't know if we are going to be competing for a WS in the next 3-4 years and I guess I can understand the thought process of Mr. Bisher, but no way can FW do it. He would be absolutely crucified, even though every deal that he has made, except dealing Devine for Kotsay, has been a pretty good one. I think this would fall under the best deals that he didn't do category, like not signing Burnett, or Furcal, and not trading for Jake Peavy. Say what you want to about Smoltz and Glavine's situations but I agree that they made us better. It is June 21 and Smoltz hasn't pitched 1 game. How much could he have helped us his year honestly, we probably wouldn't have signed KK and would've had JoJo or Morton pitching in the fifth spot. Would we have been able to get McLouth without including Morton. IDK but it had to happen sooner or later and while I hated to see them go, right now I'm glad we did it.

Padres have a good minor league system especially after AAA just look at the records, by far the most underrated in the game, they have Starting Arms, loaded in OF and corner IF, the only weakness is up the middle on Infield and a little light on relievers