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Nationals manager Manny Acta got the boot tonight, based on comments Acta made to Enrique Rojas of ESPN Deportes:
"I thank the Nationals for giving me this opportunity and I'm sorry that things didn't work out as expected. It's normal for the manager to pay the price when the team is not doing well," Acta said.
The writing was on the wall in mid-June, when Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports learned of the team's plan to replace Acta with bench coach Jim Riggleman. That this information leaked a month early reflects poorly on the organization, as Acta was left twisting in the wind. Maybe Rosenthal's report caused the Nationals to delay the move as an attempt to save face. Talk about mixed messages - on June 26th team president Stan Kasten talked about hoping Acta could serve as the club's long-term manager (Chico Harlan and Mark Viera of the Washington Post reporting).
Let's hear it from the Nationals fans - was this the right move? The expectations are different for the manager of a rebuilding club. How did Acta perform in young player development?
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You'd think after the Willie Randolph debacle last year teams would realize they need to just get it over with like a band-aid.
Posted by: icedrake523 | July 13, 2009 at 01:02 AM
I don't understand why, outside of a major incident, why teams this far out of contention like the Nats or the Pirates or even the D'Backs fire their magagers. They are on the hook to pay them the rest of the year and it isn't like promoting someone to interim manager is going to make enough of a difference. Why not just let the guy finish the season and then fire him.
I just want to know from Nats fans:
1. Was Acta really making bad decisions?
2. Would someone else have been able to do a better job with this team?
Posted by: BucSox | July 13, 2009 at 01:16 AM
Too bad for Manny. As a Royals fan, I hope Trey Hillman is next. That clown needs to go back to managing in the minor leagues where he belongs.
Posted by: PJH | July 13, 2009 at 01:16 AM
My second question should be
Would someone else have been able to do a good enough job to make a real difference?
Posted by: BucSox | July 13, 2009 at 01:17 AM
EVERYBODY DANCE!
Manny was a great guy, really class act.
But he's not a good manager at all.
Even given the teams he's had, he's still not very good.
Consider this: This year, he called this team the "Best Team I've had since I've been here" <----his words. Yet this team is on pace to lose MORE games than any team he's ever Managed. Somebody has to be held accountable for this, and the Nats have been shuffling players in and out all season, so you can't really say "oh you should change the players", because they have been.
sooner or later, the Chef is going to have to take some responsibility if the patrons are dissatisfied with the meals. You can't just keep firing and hiring waiters all year.
Posted by: MrMadison | July 13, 2009 at 01:25 AM
I will say this...
sometime in the future, Manny Acta will be a great Manager.
Just not now, and not in Washington.
Posted by: MrMadison | July 13, 2009 at 01:41 AM
Note to all MLB Managers:
If Jim Riggleman is hired to be your Bench Coach...consider it a Warning.
Posted by: MrMadison | July 13, 2009 at 01:45 AM
@BucSox
No,
No
The owners don't care about anything but profits so they don't spend any money on the team. Acta didn't do anything wrong but they'll blame him for their failures.
Posted by: cobra | July 13, 2009 at 01:52 AM
This reflects nothing on Acta and again, 1000% on the worst run franchise in the game.
a) how on earth was Acta ever supposed to win with the worst pitching staff of any team, in many years?
b) h ttp://www.firejoemorgan.com/search?q=acta
Acta will be an absolute success on any team that has some semblance of a clue and wants to win. The Nats have neither so therefore he never had a chance.
Id kill my first born to have him replace Geren in Oakland, truth.
Posted by: PL | July 13, 2009 at 01:58 AM
Manny will be the Mets Bench Coach within a week. Book it.
Then he'll be next in line to overmanage the Bullpen, assign someone to a slot in the batting order and rigidly refuse to remove them from that slot no matter how it might positively affect the lineup, stick with personal favorites who can't hit as his primary pinch hitters, pull a starter after 5 2/3 innings even if the pitcher is doing well and then use the entire bullpen to finish the last 3 1/3 innings, leave Loogys in against 4 straight right handers, and then bringin a Right hander to face the lefties, and stubbornly stick with the absolute worst players in the absolute most important situations when it clearly never works.
those are all things that Manny has actually done as Nationals Manager, all of which he did actually have options to do things differently for. and for these things, the Personnel he had at his disposal was not a factor, as he continually did these things regardless of how many times we've switched the players out and replaced them.
and he'll be set to do them in New York, in a Mets uniform very, very soon. count on it.
and hooray for the standard generic Nats criticisms whenever the Nats get rid of someone who wasn't doing their job well.
They weren't doing their jobs well because, well, they play for the Nationals. We get it. When it comes to the Nationals, it's never the Manager or Player's fault, it's always the Organization's fault. got it.
Posted by: MrMadison | July 13, 2009 at 02:39 AM
oh, I forgot to mention another thing that Mets fans should get ready for:
Manny sitting after an embarrassing performance, shrugging his shoulders with a blank expression on his face as he fellates the opposing pitcher and the opposing team as if you shouldn't have expected his team to play well anyway.
Posted by: MrMadison | July 13, 2009 at 02:42 AM
What young players did he get to develop? I guess Zimmerman, Flores, Dukes, Milledge,Chico, Zimmermann and Lannan? Well Zimmerman seems to be reaching his potential, when Flores has been healthy he's been solid, and Zimmermann is a stud. Lannan is pitching well also. So I guess the only players he didn't "develop" are Milledge and Dukes. Both guys have loads of potential,but serious attitude problems. Both brought in by the inept Bowden. Draft picks like Crowe go unsigned. Bowden gave contracts to Kearns, Guzman, and Young. What the hell is Acta supposed to do?!!! With this circus Acta remained calm, collected and made the best decisions with the crap he was given. Manny you are better off. You'll get another chance just choose carefully.
Posted by: joemorgan=#1 | July 13, 2009 at 04:30 AM
This is just a no-win miserable job. There is almost no talent in the majors and even if most of their prospects develop, they won't even be mediocre.
Posted by: was385 | July 13, 2009 at 05:28 AM
Say what you want about Manny having nothing to work with, but he absolutely did not help himself out with his in-game decisions.
Great guy, lousy manager.
Posted by: thehoagster07 | July 13, 2009 at 07:19 AM
Like my dad says, "You can't make chicken salad out of chicken poop...unless you add a lot of mayonaise."
No manager in this world would have had enough mayo for the Nationals.
Posted by: xlazox | July 13, 2009 at 07:24 AM
"Great guy, lousy manager" says it pretty well. He over-managed the pitching and about everything else. He blew through a pretty fair bullpen that he inherited from Frank Robinson with wretched overuse--more trips to the mound than any other manager during his tenure. He seems almost embarrassed to argue with the umpires. The team has no life and plays flat and uninspired--exactly the demeanor of their manager. The Nationals are not a good team, but they are better than they show on the field currently. Now if we can just get rid of that stuffed shirt Kasten. Another nice guy, but over his head.
Posted by: JuliasDad | July 13, 2009 at 07:52 AM
It's about time he was fired. His in-game decisions were horrible and the team never responded well to him. He also needed to discipline players like Guzman and Dunn for making boneheaded mistakes in the field - but he let the inmates run the asylum.
The team needs a leader in the clubhouse - one who will make sure the young guys play the game the right way and who will not be afraid to bench a guy for not keeping their head in the game. If it were up to me, and clearly it's not, I'd bring in Bobby Valentine to manage this clubhouse. He'd make this franchise a winner.
Posted by: cfv | July 13, 2009 at 07:52 AM
As a loyal Nats fan, I'm sad to see Manny go. He was a class act and I was very much on his bandwagon when he was hired.
That said, the student of the game in me knew he wasn't a good fit, especially this season. Granted, he's been saddled with more than a few of Jim Bowden's bad player decisions but the sloppy play followed by the shoulder-shrugging attitude are clearly linked. Perhaps Manny isn't the type to turn over desks, but sometimes you have to get dramatic to get people's attention.
Posted by: JammingEcono | July 13, 2009 at 08:12 AM
@BucSox
1. Was Acta really making bad decisions?
--Yes. Some were absolutely mind boggling, but all managers make idiotic decisions, so it's not like he's on an island.
2. Would someone else have been able to do a better job with this team?
--With our bullpen? I have a hard time believing anybody could do a better job. However, with a middle-of-the-lineup that includes Ryan Zimmerman, Nick Johnson, and Josh Willingham, there's absolutely no reason why we aren't hitting better.
Posted by: DC Nats Fan | July 13, 2009 at 09:20 AM
Am I the only one that thinks that Manny Acta gets a free pass for being on a lousy team?
Yeah, he couldn't have done too much with what he had... but he certainly could have done better.
Look at the way the Expos were playing when Frank Robinson was the manager, who at one point were actually on the hunt, and don't tell me that was a much more talented team.
Posted by: chronosaurus | July 13, 2009 at 09:21 AM
"The team needs a leader in the clubhouse - one who will make sure the young guys play the game the right way and who will not be afraid to bench a guy for not keeping their head in the game. If it were up to me, and clearly it's not, I'd bring in Bobby Valentine to manage this clubhouse. He'd make this franchise a winner."
You know, being a NY sports fan I hear his name being thrown around often, but you're right, he would be a perfect fit for the Nationals.
Posted by: MattinglyFan | July 13, 2009 at 10:18 AM
@MrMadison: You're right, you can't keep firing waiters to improve the meal quality. Of course, if the restuarant wasn't serving rat and pigeon to the customers, the chef wouldn't have to try and be Jesus and turn it into something edible.
Posted by: SlickTrix | July 13, 2009 at 10:32 AM
Manny's biggest problem was this: he really didn't think there was any problem with the Nationals' play. He thought they were a good team. He made excuses like "The opposing pitcher was really good today" or "Our guys are learning" or just "I thought they played well, sad we came up short." Manny had no interest in holding players accountable, no interest in benching slackers, no interest in teaching players how to get better.
Manny was a serial good cop with no bad cop to back him up. He spoiled his kids. That simple. Now they're all willing to bum around and lose and smile about it - and under the Manny era, it's common to see players all grins after losing.
What the Nationals need right about now is an R. Lee Ermey type manager. They have a darn good lineup. They have a mediocre defense that needs to be drilled relentlessly. They have 3-4 good starting pitchers and 2-3 good relievers. The problem is nobody is motivated to win.
Posted by: brianrein | July 13, 2009 at 11:18 AM
"However, with a middle-of-the-lineup that includes Ryan Zimmerman, ---ADAM DUNN---, Nick Johnson, and Josh Willingham, there's absolutely no reason why we aren't hitting better."
Just wanted to fix that omission.
But I agree with the others, how can he be held accountable when having 10+ OFers to try and work into the lineup without a pitcher to be found? And sorry, but when your bullpen consists of any arm you can find that is still in its socket, without a single starter over the age of 25 (outside of one of the worst pitchers in the game, Daniel Cabrera, for a short while), you are going to have a horrendous club!
He should be created for even getting the ballplayers to show up to the games! It has to be so deflating to play on this club… The team might have some future, but it will be hard to reach it with the team set up as it is now. I dont really blame him for having a "whatever" attitude towards losing games, this team is set up to do just that almost exclusively.
Posted by: SuzysMan | July 13, 2009 at 12:22 PM
I'm a lifetime Red Sox in DC, and I watch almost every Nats game, so ...
1. Was Acta really making bad decisions?
He made the kind of decisions a manager is supposed to make, except Bowden built a very sub-par team for him over the years. He wasn't given much. He made his share of poor in-game decisions, but was still average in that dept. He wasn't awful.
2. Would someone else have been able to do a better job with this team?
No way. The Nats have invented ways of losing -- watch every game (and try not to kill yourself) and you'll see it has less to do with Acta and more with adequate ballplayers getting it done. Last night, for example, on an intentional walk the pitcher falls over in mid-pitchout, and the runner on 3B scores. How are things like that the manager's fault?
I feel for him, but at the same time I feel great for him -- he can move on to a better team. Sure Acta had Dunn, Zimmerman, and Guzman, but the relief pitchers have been abyssmal over the years, the starters are among the youngest in MLB, and the "filler" were a batch of replacement parts. Milledge and Dukes came with baggage, RPs like Cordero and Rauch were either traded or fizzled out, the FO were caught in an "age" scandal for not doing the due diligence and they failed to sign their top pick last year.
I've seen a ton of baseball in my life, and I think Acta most reminds me of Terry Francona, who had some poor seasons before the Sox picked him up. Throwing desks and railing on players doesn't make them better. I wish him well.
Posted by: vwhite75 | July 13, 2009 at 03:09 PM
i agree totally with this guy
"Natsnut1 wrote:
I wonder how long it took them (The Washington Nationals Baseball Club) to compose that lame excuse for a explanation of the Manny firing. I guess it was because no one person could get themselves to write it. So it was written with all the flair and honesty that this ownership group has displayed since they have owned the club. Talk about an anonymous ownership with zero personality and fronted by that talking marionette Stan Kasten. Whose views is he representing anyway? At least with Peter Angelos and the Orioles we knew who to hate, especially when he blocked our Nats coming into existence all those long years supported by his stooge 'Bud' Selig and now makes me watch most Nats games on God-awful MASN1...(sorry, I digress). I will tell you who stinks here...it's the Nats ownership. Cheap, flinty, behind-the-scenes, clueless, manipulated by slimeball Bowden, stupid marketing campaigns, slow-payers to their landlords, incapable of attracting development around the stadium, lousy to their employees (ask Frank Robinson) and incapable of Leadership. They didn't fire Manny, he escaped Alcatraz. Good luck to him and have mercy on the rest of us."
Posted by: DC Sports Fan | July 14, 2009 at 12:43 AM
Great post Tim. Way to call them out!
Kasten is smarter than this, In my opinion the Knats are steel hurting from being stained by Bowden and other ventures south of the border.
Posted by: jadarm | July 14, 2009 at 09:17 AM
Mannny Acta to the Pirates would help.
Posted by: metsfan4 life | July 16, 2009 at 02:26 PM