Sabean Defuses Martinez, Dye Rumors

Vmart would be great but tooo expensive.

With the way the team is playing, an Uggla or similiar bat is what they should pursue.

Stop saying Uggla is a good option... He's batting .222 with no power. Not what the Giants need. They need a Teahen/Sanchez type guy.

WAIT A SEC DID U JUST SAY DAN UGGLA HAS BETTER DEFENCE THAN SANCHEZ AND Teahan???

YOU HAVE 2 BE JOKING DID U WATCH THE ALL-STAR GAME LAST YEAR???
Ok heres the deal at 2nd base out of those 3 guys it gos like this for defence:
sanchez
uglla
teahen
BUT TEAHEN AND SANCHEZ HAVE FLEXABILLITY TEAHAN CAN GO WERE EVER U NEED HIM 2[just not pitcher,catcher]. And Sanchez could play 2nd and 3rd. One Last thing HOW MANNY ERRORS DID DAN UGLLA HAVE IN THE ALLSTAR GAME??? NL LOST BC OF HIS ERRORS!!!!!!!!!!!

"OU HAVE 2 BE JOKING DID U WATCH THE ALL-STAR GAME LAST YEAR???"

Wow. yea. uggla sucks because he played bad in the all star game last year. he sucks. release him.idiot.

the all star game is a joke.

"Uggla is better defensively than both of those two."

Now, I'm going to disagree with this, but I definitely will not use the All Star Game as part of my argument. I don't think that I would ever use the All Star Game to argue anything regarding the value of a player.

Sanchez is definitely a superior defensive player to Uggla, although Uggla is easily better than Teahen, who is horrid at second and below average at third.

Uggla has a career UZR/150 of -3.0 at second base, and he's never played an inning anywhere else on the field in his major league career.

Sanchez has a career UZR/150 of +4.1 at second base in a similar number of innings, and his UZR/150 at third base is a sparkling +17.9 in 172 games there.

But then again, Uggla did make three errors in the ASG, so obviously his defensive work is a joke.

It was clear that the Giants were not looking at V-Mart or Dye at that game. Dye don't fit, V-Mart would cost too much, and probably wasn't available anyhow.

I thought that the Giants were looking at MI options because both teams have a number of buy-low possibilities, Barfield, Jhonny, Betemit.

The Giants have a good farm system, one of the few perks of the Sabean regime is that he's a fantastic scout, so they can probably form a pretty impressive package without including any of the big 4 (Villalona, Bumgarner, Posey, Alderson).

As baseball52 said, guys like Henry Sosa, Nick Noonan, Conor Gillespie, Ehire Adrianza, Clayton Tanner, Scott Barnes, Rafael Rodriguez, and Brandon Crawford, among others, could form a pretty nice trade offer.

Even Denker still has some good value.

Holliday could even be an option, although I don't think he'd fit that park, with a Sosa based deal.

Now I doubt they're shopping him, but Shin Soo Choo would be great for the Giants. Considering the Indians need for pitching and how many talent OF specs they have, LaPorta, Weglarz, Crowe, and Brantley, you could also add the worse fielder of the Mills-Hodges combo to that list because they could possibly be moved to the OF, and they have Big Grady.

And I mean that in a could, non-sarcastic way. That's crazy. Whoever gets him needs to move him back to third.

I think that people still need to put the statistic into perspective.

Yeah, 172 games is a pretty decent sample size, but UZR is a statistic that depends on large sample sizes because small samples can GREATLY fluctuate.

Obviously, with a +17.9 UZR/150 in 172 games, you can surmise that Sanchez is a very good defensive third baseman.

But is he really better than Longoria, who has a +17.5 UZR/150 in 190 games, and is regarded as essentially the consensus best third baseman in the game?

It's difficult to say just how good Sanchez is at third base going forward, but in those 172 games, Sanchez was at a Longoria/Rolen level of production defensively, which is kind of astounding.

"The Giants have a good farm system, one of the few perks of the Sabean regime is that he's a fantastic scout, so they can probably form a pretty impressive package without including any of the big 4 (Villalona, Bumgarner, Posey, Alderson)."

Can we please stop calling Sabean a "fantastic" scout? All of these guys were high first round picks or international free agents... something Sabean leaves to his Latin scouts.

Bottom line - this is a guy who has lead the Giants to 4 consecutive 76 wins or worse seasons in what is widely accepted as the worst division in baseball... crappy teams = high draft picks = Bumgarner and Posey.

It's amazing he still has a job.