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Olney On Potential Non-Tenders And Bradley

In today's blog post at ESPN.com, Buster Olney indicates that there is belief among general managers that the "financial restructuring that has been occurring across the landscape is about to hit the arbitration-level players like a tidal wave." He mentions underperforming, but well paid players like Garrett Atkins and Kelly Johnson are prime non-tender bait, especially since their clubs have replacements ready and it's unlikely they'll be able to trade them. Make sure you check out MLBTR's list of non-tender candidates.

Olney also talks about some bad contracts the Cubs could acquire in exchange for Milton Bradley, adding that this morning's Vernon Wells rumor "would be a stunner" if it happened. Some of the players he mentions as possible fits include Carlos Silva, Derek Lowe, Gary Matthews Jr. (who said he wants out of Anaheim), Barry Zito, Aaron Rowand, Oliver Perez, and Dontrelle Willis, among others. Any other ideas?


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They'd be better off with Rowand or Lowe. Both of these guys come from offensively desperate teams, and may look to him as a last resort.

rowand had better numbers last yea so unless the giants want to move his extra money and hope bradley produces as much as rowand has then i dont know why they would want him

Aaron Rowand, Maggs Ordonez, Jose Guillen, Luis Castillo, Pat Burrell, or Adam Dunn????

Buster got the deadline wrong in his article. The deadline to tender a contract to players is December 12, not Dec. 20.
I would dump Bonderman, Robertson, Willis, Ordonez, Guillen, or Inge for anything or nothing, but I would not take back a bad two year contract for them. All but Guillen will be off the books after the 2010 season anyway, not that Dombrowski will spend the money since he doesn't give out multi year contracts to free agents.

Uhh, no way the Nats trade one year of productive Dunn for two years of headcase Bradley.

Matthews JR makes the most sense for the Bradley swap.
With Abreu/Vlad possibly leaving, the Angels need a corner OF/DH player.
Matthews doesnt have much benefit for the Cubs, just take a chance on him and hope he does well, he's a better option than Silva/Zito/etc

StandByMe- agreed. Nats wouldnt trade Dunn for prospects at the deadline, not taking Bradley for him

If the Cubs and Braves discuss a Bradley-for-Lowe swap, why not add to the inquiry and grab a Kelly Johnson-type at second? The Cubs might have to add a couple of farm hands to complete that transaction. However, the two-birds-with-one-stone transaction is simple and painless. This could actually work nicely for both clubs.

Unfortunately, that still leaves Chicago with the daunting task of correcting the bullpen and adding a legitimate left-handed hitter.

Then again, with Johnson looking like a non-tender candidate, the Cubs might be foolish to offer anything in a trade scenario.

You know, I often don't like Buster Olney and his scenarios. He's good at analyzing performance, but these murmurs he puts out there -- I'm looking at Carlos Silva's name and cringing -- read like throwing as much as one can at the wall and seeing what sticks. Then again, Silva's not a basket case....or is he?

mets get: derek lowe

braves get: milton braley

cubs get: luis castillo

could it work?

I'm tired of the knocks on Zito. The contract is excessive, but he had a pretty good year this year. He will never be worth the money paid to him, but he really makes that staff better. His run support this year was awful, and he easily could've had several more wins. I'm a fan of the Giants, and I want to keep Zito. That's right, I said it.

I'd take Rowand or Zito for Bradley any day.

Metsfan: no way am I taking Castillo. Castillo is nothing more than a bench guy at this point. I'd rather have Lowe than Castillo. The Cubs do need a 2b, but Castillo doesn't do it for me.

I'd also take Inge, but not Burrell.

The Bradley deal was a bad one from the start. The guy has always been a turd, and averages about 90 something games a season. I would take a bucket of baseballs and a 6 pack at this point.

Bradley to the Angels would be nice for them. But I don't see it happening they know what it's like to deal with a player that complains so I just don't see that happening.

I'd also prefer Rowand for Bradley.

Why would the SFG want to get rid of Rowand? Do they have a better replacement? I know he hasn't lived up to his contract but neither has Bradley. Anybody familiar with the Giants know?

I agree chuy. Why they would take a cancer like Bradley over a solid guy like Rowand is beyond me. I understand they overpaid on Rowand, but he's the type of guy you win with, not Bradley.

Dodgers trade Juan Pierre for Milton Bradley.


In other news, hell freezes over and Satan offers free sleigh rides.

Mets: Milton Bradley, Ryan Theriot
Cubs: JJ Putz, Anderson Hernandez, Jeffrey Kaplan

Would any Cubs fans accept it?

"mets get: derek lowe

braves get: milton braley

cubs get: luis castillo

could it work?"

It probably makes more sense to not get a 3rd team involved. If the Mets want D-Lowe, they can probably have him for next to nothing, anyway. If the Braves want Bradley, they can probably have him for next to nothing, anyway.

as a giants fan. i'd take bradley for rowand. he seems to be hurt a lot and is the most unclutch player on the team.

" Mets: Milton Bradley, Ryan Theriot
Cubs: JJ Putz, Anderson Hernandez, Jeffrey Kaplan

Would any Cubs fans accept it?

Posted by: mets111 | October 31, 2009 at 02:13 PM"

I would comment in-depth about this horrendous proposal, but I will keep it simple. Anderson Hernandez is awful -- barely a utility player -- and Ryan Theriot is worth more than J.J. Putz and that "lot" by himself. Back to the drawing board, ace.

Chuy

Overall Rowand has been OK but he was absolutely horrid in the second half last year. We (Giants fans) look at the difference in contract (one year and $15 mil saved for the Giants) and see that as a factor in extending Lincecum and Cain and signing free agents.

Some names that have been thrown around as CF replacements are Torres, Schierholtz, or trading a player (Wilson?) for BJ Upton.

The big factor is the saved money for those who support the deal. I'd be down with it.

"Matthews JR makes the most sense for the Bradley swap.
With Abreu/Vlad possibly leaving, the Angels need a corner OF/DH player."

Matthews IS a OF/DH player. Face it, no one with half a brain wants Bradley.

i dont think anyone wants bradley. even the cubs are trying to get rid of that cancer. i would like to get rid of rowand, and get a bat anyway possible....almost anyway

This list is full of undesireable names, many of which Id rather the Cubs just eat Bradleys contract than take, but the one that stands out is Derrek Lowe. I dont know if Atlanta would go for it, but theyve been looking for a righty bat, and Lowes groundball style would be very effective at Wrigley. The Cubs could then use Gorzolanny, Marshall, or Samrdzjia as trade bait for that RBI producer Piniella wants.

No way Washinton trades Dunn for Bradley. They will try an get a some prospects for Dunn. If they fail to trade him, he will be a type a FA and they will get a 1st rd pick for him in 2011.

I think some other names that Bradley could be swaped for are, JD Drew, Yes I am a sox fan and just speculating. But Drew has 2 years left at 14 mill while Bradley is getting 10 mill a year with 2 years left as well.

The Cubs want to get rid of Bradly bad and Drew would be a good fit in wrigley. Drew still has some upside and so doesnt Bradley. Drew walks a ton and thats something they will probally be looking for when they try and replace Bradley. Drew plays good D and drives in runs. A move back to the NL could be good for Drew. The Sox try and upgrade with the hope Bradley excells in Boston. Bradley isnt as much of a problem as he is made out to be. Bradley cant be any worse then Drew has been.

I think this is potentiell a perdect fit.

Oh yeah, Magglio Ordonez and Jose Guillen are a few other names that come to mind.

brent, you're an idiot. Drew is a pretty good RF, Bradley is wildly inconsistent. Just because JD Drew doesn't throw fits when he strikes out or argues every call doesn't mean he's not a heck of a ballplayer.

first off "howiehandles"
Castillo is easily in the top 5 of all second basemen in MLB. go crunch some numbers. he has at least three more good years. he's no Chase Utley, but I'd take him over Prado or Infante any day of the week.

Castillo easily top-5? So he's easily over Utley, Kinsler, Roberts, Pedroia, DeRosa, Lopez, Phillips, Cano, Zobrist, and Uggla? Just saying, he was 21sy in my fantasy league this year.

I don't think you can defend Luis as being top 5 in all of baseball; Phillips, Hudson, Ugla, Utley, Cano, Zobrist, Pedroia, Kinsler, and Roberts are all clearly better, and I could make arguments for a half dozen others. That still leaves Luis in the upper half of MLB second basemen though, which is a long way from "nothing more than a bench guy."

As for Bradley trades, I think the Cubs should look for a mid-level prospect for Bradley and cash. If the rates for conner OFers are similar to last year they should be able to improve the team without taking on another awful contract.

I think the Angels could do a lot worse than a GMJ for Rowand swap. Rowand has enough arm to play RF and would probably do a little better at Angel Stadium than ATT Park offensively.

sorry I meant the national league. I think Castillo is better than Ugla and Hudson too; more hustle and more clutch. The idea of trading him for the parker brotha, I mean milton bradley is a joke, not to mention the idea that Castillo wouldn't be worth it.

I wonder if the Cubs will get daring and package Bradley with, lets say, Josh Vitters....and try to get an above average player that will help them win next year.

BJ Upton is the guy that immediately comes to mind. Im not sure if Tamba Bay would go for it. But I think its possible. What do you think Tampa fans?

There is no possibility that Milton Bradley will ever play for the Atlanta Braves. He does not have the "motivational fit" to be a Brave nor is he capable of playing competently in the field, nor is he able to play more than 126 games (he has done this once in 9 years).

Not to mention his horrible contract. Cub fans, remove the ca-ca from your brains, you will get nothing for this cancerous turd from the Braves.

They shouldn't take on another bad contract. They will probably ride it out with Milt and why not? If he is still a pain in the ass and not producing by June, cut him loose. If he is left alone and asked to just do his job I think he will. If he stays with the Cubbies I will bet he puts up far better numbers than last year. GO GET A CF OR 2B LEADOFF HITTER!!!!!!

first off "howiehandles"
Castillo is easily in the top 5 of all second basemen in MLB. go crunch some numbers. he has at least three more good years. he's no Chase Utley, but I'd take him over Prado or Infante any day of the week.

Posted by: xplosive | October 31, 2009 at 06:14 PM


Haha you can have Castillo and his .732 OPS plus terrible defense and I'll take Prado and his .822 OPS with slightly below average defense anyday. And better than Uggla and Hudson, on the basis of hustle and clutch? Seriously now you're really reaching

I would LOVE to see Upton as a Cub. I don't think the Rays are going to deal him for Bradley

why would Tampa want Vitters badly enough to take on Bradley when they already have Longoria

wow...as a mariners fan, I hope we can find somebody (ANYBODY!!) that thinks Silva is as good as anyone else listed above.

if det. traded maglio for d.lowe.. i'd trade dontrell for milton in a sec... 2 years of milton for a cost of 8 million.. put him @ DH and play him in right only against lefties and sit c. thomas.. he might actually stay somewhat healthy and bring much needed O.B.P. to det.

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