Non-Tender Candidates

I can see the Pirates going after Ankie/ Mike Jacobs.

Mike Jacobs?

How could anyone still want Jacobs?

He's posted a .298 OBP in the past two seasons, and this season he struck out over 30% of the time.

The Pirates are better off giving the 1B playing time to Garrett Jones, no need in bringing in a guy like Jacobs.

They are better off giving the time to Garrett Jones, but it doesn't mean they will. They've already expressed interest in Ankiel, and they're always looking for left-handed pop and low batting averages to go with it.

Jacobs has had a grand total of one half-decent year. Can't see who would be interested in him. I could see the Orioles going after John Maine if he becomes available. Whoever has Dave Duncan next year should go after Wang. Duncan would work wonders with Wang.

Thames hasn't been half-bad as a platoon guy. He definitely ain't worth all that money he's getting now though...

"Duncan would work wonders with Wang."

Somehow he is supposed to be able to fix any pitchers problems period.

Wonder if the Rays will tender Navarro? They are perennial bottom feeders salary wise and will need cash for Crawford's 10M 2010 salary, arbitration with Bartlett and Balfour.

Most teams would be willing to take a chance that Navarro's 2009 was an aberration and at 2.1M for last year, he can't stand to get much of a boost, but this is the tight fisted Rays..

Astros Non-Tender Candidates:

Tim Byrdak
Chris Coste
Chad Paranto
Humberto Quintero (likely to stay)
Chris Sampson

Oh ... and ... there really is a chance the Yanks won't tender Bruney a contract?

no way bobby jenks gets non-tendered. he'll be due to make roughly 7mil through arbitration. when you've got guys like valverde, wagner, rodney who will all be looking for 10+, jenks' salary isn't that bad - especially cuz his upside is better than any of the other choices

Of course, now that I look at the numbers from this year, he was terrible. He wasn't terrible in the past, but according to fangraphs.com, he was only worth less than 2 million bucks this year. BTW, second most valuable reliever on the list(behind Broxton of course) was Matt Thornton...
Screw it, non-tender him.

I disagree, Jenks is not a candidate. He has too much trade value to simply be non-tendered. No way in hell that happens.

Scott Olsen?

Jenks is hardly a comparable to Wigginton and Nelson.

Wigginton posted a massive home/road split in 2008, he mashed in Houston but struggled everywhere else, he posted a 1.081 OPS with 32 XBH at home and a .696 OPS with 14 XBH on the road. Given his unimpressive track record beyond 2008, tendering him a $5-6M contract didn't make a lot of sense for Houston.

Nelson's 2008 was really good, but his walk rate was out of line with his career numbers and his contact rates were pretty lucky. Most teams would've tendered him a contract but this is the Marlins that we're talking about.

Now, with Jenks you're talking about one of the best closers in the AL since he emerged in 2005. His K/BB ratio is actually much better this year than it was in 2008, and his HR/9 is only so bad because of an extremely flukish 17% HR/FB ratio. Even if he isn't worth about $7M to the White Sox, they'd still be better off tendering him a contract and then trading him, Jenks has the reputation to garner some trade interest even if he's got $7M coming to him.

"Atkins will be nontendered, unless he is willing to sign for dinky-doo and be a pinch hitter. I'd rather have Giambi, frankly. Atkins will be a good reclamation case for some team with time to spare."

Atkins can't be tendered a contract for any less than about $5.6M, because of his $7M salary for this season. If the Rockies want him back for less than that, they'll have to non-tender him and renegotiate a new contract.

Atkins was almost certainly be gone. The infield is set with Helton, Barmes, Tulowitzki and Stewart.

Dave Bush is a likely non-tender.

When asked by a reporter essentially whether all 5 of the guys who started this season in the rotation (they conceivable could all come back) would be back, Ken Macha asked "Where'd we finish in terms of starters ERA?" "Last" answered the reporter. Macha: "I think you answered your own question."

Bush had some injury issues but was bad and would cost too much to bring back as long reliever.

I guess he's a non-tender candidate, but I just consider the odds of it to be minute enough that discussing it just seems petty.

I would be shocked if the White Sox decided to non-tender Jenks.

Certainly makes sense for the Cubs to non-tender Heilman and then try to bring him back at a lower salary. That is, assuming they want to bring him back. If it were me I'd non-tender him, try to resign him to a lower, team friendly contract and then trade him as fast as possible. Can't say I'm enthused at the prospect of him being a Cub again next year, he's unexciting to put it mildly.

Cody Ross of the Marlins is a non-tender possibility as well.

I'd say there is no chance the Twins non-tender Delmon Young! Yes, he's been a disappointment for two seasons (although he's been a beast the last three weeks) but he remains a very high ceiling player at age 25.

I think given his youth, production, and his potential that he would become a priority free agent for a number of teams looking for a corner outfielder.

The Twins may trade him this off season but I can't imagine them non-tendering him.

Regardless of whether or not the Twins should trade him, I don't see the Twins trading or non-tendering Delmon.

Just like the front office has decided to keep Carlos Gomez in the majors (despite being clearly overmatched at this point) in order to show that we got something for Johan Santana, they'll keep Young to have something to show for Garza.

In the end, both trades have been busts to this point (fingers crossed for Deolis Guerra), and the organization seems reluctant to accept or acknowledge that.

Both players mentioned have upside still, and Gomez is unquestionably an elite defensive center fielder, but he's got no place in the Majors at this point.

At the end of the day, Bill Smith doesn't seem to like to acknowledge a bad move. How long did we hang onto Craig Monroe and Livan Hernandez? Livan probably cost us the division in 2008, but Smith didn't want to pull the trigger even though Liriano was flat out dominant at the AAA level.

Young will remain in Minnesota, so here's hoping his monster September is a sign of better days to come. If nothing else, it's given me a little hope for him again, which is something I had previously lost.

Suppose I shouldn't say "monster September..." his last 3 weeks or so have been where he's really picked it up, culminating in a ridiculous weekend series with Kansas City.

Delmon Young certainly has holes in his game and while I think he was justified in being upset w/ his teammate for causing him to be a target vs the Tigers, I felt he should've done that on the bench or in the clubhouse and not publicly. All that being said the guy still has potential, is only going to be 24 at the start of the 2010 season and on a team in need of offense it would be a massive sell low to let him walk. He had a very solid 2nd half of the season posting a .303/.322 line w/ 10 dbls and 9 hrs. He absolutely needs to learn to draw a walk and hit with a little more pop but as he continues to lear I could see him posting a solid .310/.340 20 hr line. Twins will not get equal value in return so why trade him and he's not earning a lot so why non-tender him?

"You can't keep running a guy out there, in a premium offensive position, and have him post an OPS that barely crosses 700. He's had 3 full years now and there has been no sign of improvement (except that past few weeks)."

You haven't even mentioned his career UZR/150 of -16.3 in left field.

He's posted a near-pathetic -1.3 WAR with Minnesota. Unfortunately, he's so freaking talented that he'll continue to play, because he's still got a shot at being an impact player.

Laynce Nix and even Jonny Gomes are candidates.

Are you kidding me? There is absolutely no chance that Cody Ross does not get tendered a contract. This guy is still relatively cheap and an integral part of the fan base. Obviously you haven't heard fans chanting his name. And with the numbers he's posted, if anything he'd be traded.

Now, with Jenks you're talking about one of the best closers in the AL since he emerged in 2005. His K/BB ratio is actually much better this year than it was in 2008, and his HR/9 is only so bad because of an extremely flukish 17% HR/FB ratio. Even if he isn't worth about $7M to the White Sox, they'd still be better off tendering him a contract and then trading him, Jenks has the reputation to garner some trade interest even if he's got $7M coming to him.

Posted by: scribbletone | October 05, 2009 at 10:29 AM

To be a nontender you have to be worth less than you will be awarded in arbitration. IMO Jenks isn't worth more than 5 yet is due to make 7 so he is definitely a candidate. The best thing they could do is tender him and then trade him with cash to offset the 2 mill difference, unfortuately anyone who is a possible candidate will probably rather wait to see if they non-tender him.

if the marlins could make a contract with any of these players.what players would be and for how much?

if the rays non tender navarro if im the mets i go after him

Jayson Werth....can the Phillies really afford him?

How about a guy like Vladimir Guerrero?

The Angels probably won't offer him arbitration as he is making $12M this season. If they can't reach an agreement on a new deal could he possibly be a good candidate to DH for another AL team?

No way the Yankees non-tender Wang. He had back to back 19 win seasons and was 6-2 before he injured his foot in 2008. Last year was an enigma. Cashman is not going to just let this guy go only to watch him win 15 games for a team like SF or Arizona. He has earned another shot at the #4 spot in the rotation

i will take Delmon Young in a Giants Uniform anyday. He is 24 years old. Most guys his age are in AA or in their Rookie Year. You cant punish the guy because he flew through the minors with the Rays. Hitters dont hit their peak years until 27-31 years old. Young will probably reach it a little sooner, hopefully by 25.

Options for offensive hungry teams like the Giants are Eugenio Velez, Andres Torres and Fred Lewis. Nate Schierholtz is a "promising" young outfielder in our eyes. He will be 26 on opening day 2010. He has 472 career ABs, with a .284 /.316 /.415 line (6 hr and 44 rbi). Compare that to Young, 24 years old, 1741 career ABs, .290 / .322 / .416 career line with 38 HR and 232 RBI.