Giants, Orioles Pursuing Dan Uggla

Still hoping the Dodgers pass on this guy.

If ther redsox really did inquire on what it would take to get Uggla i wonder what Florida had told them that it would take i am thinking a package heading Buchholz then maybe Bowden and a couple of positionaly players maybe Reddick or Kalish

No way we give up Bumgarner for this guy. He doesn't hit for average, his defense is questionable at best, all he really provides is pop.

the Red Sox just got Hermida now they want another Marlin just to make him OF too haha no sense, but I like who the Sox have young pitching and good prospects.

Marlin will definitely be asking for more than AVERAGE prospects for Uggla.

Would the Red Sox even offer Buchholtz straight up for Uggla? I would think not.

No way the Sox even touch their top tier pitching for Uggla. I can't see why they would want him anyway... maybe just looking to put up a front to give leverage in bay's negotiations.

Black and Proud,

No thank you.

Let me say one more time... the Florida Marlins DO NOT want a average below average trash pitcher named Johnathan Sanchez in ANY deal. And Black and Proud thats a garbage deal.

Uggla would play 3B and Panda would play 1B.

BTW we have a ton of prospects so if anything we the GIants will acquire Uggla i would give 2 or 3 prospects and Fred Lewis....Marlins give me names of prospects you want from us

Uggla hasn't played LF since 04 so that would be a difficult adjustment, and his glove isn't that great so he could end up fielding OF balls like lastings millegde haha.

It is so sad in that about half of the top players that are in the Major Leagues came up from the Marlins... I mean like cabrera, willis, beckett,, and so many others and to think you could have had manny ramirez a couple years back wow i feel sorry for you guys...if they had made the stadium earlier and more fans would have come the Marlins could have won more than 2 or 3 world series right now but since of their budget that sucks. When is new Marlins stadium opening again?

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Marlins would want Sanchez for Hermida sure, not for Uggla though. Uggla is going to require more talent than a mediocre pitcher.

There is no way Reimold and Erbe get dealt for Uggla. Reimold is unlikely to be dealt at all, while Erbe is a Baltimore high school star and is also unlikely to go anywhere.

But even if those two were available, that is way too much for Uggla.

Giants could also move Freddy Sanchez to 3B and keep Uggs at 2B.

MarlinsFanatic

how is Jonathan Sanchez a trash pitcher? he is a lefty who can throw 95 mph which is rare and he was in the top 5 in swing and miss stuff and he threw a no-hitter. I know you'll probably say that the no-hitter is no big deal but after the no-hitter he had an ERA in the mid 3.00's

and also I think you are valuing Uggla a bit too much. don't get me wrong he has a ton of power and can hit about 30 bombs every year but he also strikes out a lot and is nothing spectacular on defense

Actually Uggla's errors and strikeouts both went down this year so I find that funny. His walks went up tremendously and everyone just grades Uggla's defense based on the all star game. He is actually a decent defender he only had around 12 errors last year.

Sanchez for Uggla, uneven trade. Marlins wouldn't waste their time.

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There is no way Reimold and Erbe get dealt for Uggla. Reimold is unlikely to be dealt at all, while Erbe is a Baltimore high school star and is also unlikely to go anywhere.

But even if those two were available, that is way too much for Uggla."

It all depends on how good Riemold's defense is. If he's really a -15 run left fielder, as he was last season, then we might as well go with Scott and/or Pie in LF and shave some runs off the pitcher ERA. On the other hand, if that Achilles' injury was really a big deal, then it's a different story. (Bill James has him projected to reach an OPS close to .900; combined with average defense, that's a pretty valuable player)

Obviously I have no idea about that; I just think he's one of our most realistic trade chips at this point. If the Marlins would take a deal centered around Brandon Snyder, that would obviously be preferable, but I doubt they want a 1B who can't field and might not be able to hit...

Jonathan Sanchez might be giving the Marlins TOO MUCH for Uggla, but since it's a discussion, it's probably a fair deal.

"Giants could also move Freddy Sanchez to 3B and keep Uggs at 2B."
Yea they could also move rowand to short and renteria to center

dirty slides in at #3 or 4... not saying its a fair deal, just sayin...

Doug

Sanchez actually has played 3B before and even though its a small sample he actually played 3B pretty well

Uggla in SF that makes sense, he would hit well in that park.

I dont see the us trading Uggla by himself to the Giants tho.. maybe they'll trade Uggla with Lindstrom or something and get Sanchez, and some minor leaguers... hell, the Marlins might even throw in Anibal Sanchez (I dont see him with the Marlins that much longer anyways)

"Lewis is a decent fielder"

HA!

Have you ever watched baseball... ever?

when the ball bounces OUT of your glove, it's considered bad...

It all depends on how good Riemold's defense is. If he's really a -15 run left fielder, as he was last season, then we might as well go with Scott and/or Pie in LF and shave some runs off the pitcher ERA. On the other hand, if that Achilles' injury was really a big deal, then it's a different story. (Bill James has him projected to reach an OPS close to .900; combined with average defense, that's a pretty valuable player)

Obviously I have no idea about that; I just think he's one of our most realistic trade chips at this point. If the Marlins would take a deal centered around Brandon Snyder, that would obviously be preferable, but I doubt they want a 1B who can't field and might not be able to hit...

Posted by: ugen64 | November 11, 2009 at 02:09 PM

I think that everyone in Baltimore feels that Reimold is capable of playing a plus left field, a position he almost never played prior to the majors. Particularly with his plus arm, if he has even average range after surgery, he should be above average for left.

He would certainly be a very valuable trade chip, but that's part of why the O's won't trade him. He's under control for six more seasons, covering all of his prime and has hit lefties well (which is a sore spot for the O's) and hit well in the AL East. If the O's trade him at all, it will be for a shortstop, I suspect.

Haha

if you want Brandon Snyder the Giants have their own version of him in Brett Pill and Josh Mazzola MarlinsFanatic

I don't necessarily think the O's need him, I mean there offense is phenomenal, but the real concern is pitching. They're a great team, but they're a couple solid starters away from making the AL East a four-headed division.

Black-And-Proud,
Did you really just throw Dontrelle Willis into the mix with the "top players in the Major Leagues" ?

Wow.

There is no way we would give up Reimold for Uggla. He projects to have a better average, high OBP, and probably 20-25 homer guy. He's younger, cheaper, and should be better than Uggla.

Now, from what I've heard, the Marlins want a 2nd tier pitching prospect that doesn't have to be ready for the majors. I'd be willing to give them Zach Britton straight up for Uggla. We have plenty of pitching prospects, so there's no reason we can't sacrifice a very good one who's only at A.

Oh...and to Jack. Yes, we have a good offense, but we're really missing a big right-handed bat. Uggla would be a perfect fit that would come without having to give up a whole lot.

it seems like Uggla has been linked to SF for years... if it was ever going to happen, it would be now... both sides are motivated...but i doubt the giants will send or the marlins will want sanchez... it will be built around prospects if it happens...

then sabean can throw 5/65 at Bay to wrap up the west...

Pablo, Bay, Uggla sounds like a nice 3 4 5 to me...

Uggla and Bay are "GAMERS" too... they'll fit right in

Rowand/Velez
f. sanchez
pablo
bay
uggla
Posey/vet (pudge?)
Nate
Renteria

Timmy
Cain
Zito
Sanchez
Penny?

i like that

Uggla for a package centered around Sanchez is the most likely scenario.I would love for the dodgers to offer Bilingsley,but they won't weaken a weakness to solve another weakness.We are trading Uggla a year too late.

Regarding Uggla...

Scouting reports on a potential shift to 3b commonly end with big red flag on his arm, which is quite sub-par. You don't put a short righty at 1b. Perhaps it could work out at 3b, but for the G-men this isn't very efficient, period. Uggla is often noted as having a less than stellar career outlook because he doesn't fit well any where else on the diamond, and his contact rates are low.

Regarding Sanchez...

Note that he is entering arbitration for the first time. His relative value may be less, since he will make millions here on out.

However, his power breaking pitches ruled lineups in the second half. He has one of the best profiles of a lefty in his mid-20s in baseball. And he is poised for a break-out. With a high probability of regression coming out of the other rotation starters in SF, Sanchez is big chip for Sabean to gamble. Plus, he fits so well in a rotation that otherwise has 2 great RHPs, and soft-tossing LHP in Zito.

If you are trading your best trade chip, don't do it for someone that doesn't plug in to your problem spots in the field directly.

Uggla for Bowden and Hagadone?

Posted by: JPizzle | November 11, 2009 at 02:58 PM

Hagadone is in Cleveland now-he was part of the V-Mart trade

Kellum -

Uggla would have led last years Giants in HR and probably would have been 2nd or 3rd on the team in OBP... I haven't looked at the numbers, so i may be off a little on the OBP, but I know he would have been in the top 5 at the very least... he is EXACTLY what the giants need...

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uggla really isnt a franchise changing player. 30 home runs, 180 K's, and dozens of errors. Hes just gonna frustrate the crap out of anybody that picks him up.

"Uh...we have more high quality prospects than the Red Sox...."

what does that have to do with anything? If we're trading Uggla, we're gonna want more prospects. The Sox have good ones.

the o's seem like the most logical fit...he'd play 1b or dh if he goes there.

"the o's seem like the most logical fit...he'd play 1b or dh if he goes there."

yes, but you have nothing that interests the Marlins to make a deal.

I posted three months ago about the O's acquiring Uggla, and was told that I was insane because he didn't have enough bat to play 1B/DH in the AL East.

I'm glad the O's are interested in him, I think he can be a good fit, as a 1B/3B/DH. The Fish want pitching, and the O's have minor league pitching in spades. I doubt that the O's would part with Arrieta or Erbe, but I'm sure that the Fish would be happy with Zach Britton and Jim Miller for Uggla.

uggla's a bum

why would anyone try to trade for Uggla?
Since he is HIGHLY likely to be non-tendered... just wait until he is an FA- then sign him for free