Red Sox Acquire Jeremy Hermida

man the hot stove is burning hot all ready

I would be ashamed if I was a Red Sox fan right now.

Because the can, I suppose.

All I thought was I didn't see this coming.

does this mean they wont get bay, or just a saftey blanket if they dont get someone?

Marlins win this trade.

I guess they needed a lesser version of JD Drew for whenever the real one gets hurt.

I fail to see how this trade makes any real sense for the Red Sox. They have some outfielders in the upper minors in Reddick, and soon Kalish that would be better suited for playing time as backups for Drew and Hermida is CERTAINLY not their left field solution...

why, exactly?

"I would be ashamed if I was a Red Sox fan right now."

Because...?

If this turns out to be Bay's replacement I'm going to go get drunk right now and wallow in the possibility of 3rd place. However if this is more Rocco Baldelli replacement, not bad. It's not like we gave up a lot. Jones and Alvarez aren't exactly in our list of interesting prospects.

God, the Marlins front office has to be the smartest in baseball. I don't see how you get two great minor players for a below average hitter.

Two things about this trade...Hermida has considerable upside still...you Boston fans thinking this is the end of your world should get a grip. Royals fans everywhere (which I'm not) would kill to see a simple trade like this as cause for alarm. However, this could be an indicator also that Bay is gone, which, believe it or not, is also probably better for you. I like Bay a lot, but he's overrated, especially for the type of money he'll be commanding this winter. This is a good move. sheesh.

Well it looks like acquiring pieces for another deal perhaps with Milwaukee

Great 4th outfielder to plug in when Drew goes down...

@start_wearing_purple Theo is smarter than picking up a reclamation type player in Hermida to be a replacement for a 380+ wOBA player in Bay.

a .336 career wOBA is pretty pedestrian. He's not fooling the Sox' FO.

"Well it looks like acquiring pieces for another deal perhaps with Milwaukee"

Maybe something like Hermida and Delcarmen for JJ Hardy? Not a bad idea.

"I don't see how you get two great minor players for a below average hitter."

I'm not sure where you ever got the idea that those two were great prospects... but your grasp on baseball is amusing if nothing else.

RockiesMagicNumber, don't get me wrong, I have absolute trust in Theo, the boy wonder who brought us out of the dark ages of Dan Duquette managing. Doesn't mean I don't arm chair GM. Right now, like everyone else I'm trying to figure out where Hermida fits into the picture and Drew insurance sounds most likely.

"Maybe something like Hermida and Delcarmen for JJ Hardy? Not a bad idea."

Where would Hermida play in Milwaukee? The Brewers need a center fielder, the corners are fine with Braun and Hart.

Goodbye, Baldelli.
Hello, Hermidia.

Hermida is a great cost controlled 4th OF option from the LH side. This makes it easier for Baldelli to come back as the 5th OF and be RH bat off the bench. I like the trade a lot. Jones is nothing and the kid is a ways off, maybe he develops, maybe he doesn't.

Yankees10,
Why I'm suppose to be ashamed by this trade?

Posted by: terry180 | November 05, 2009 at 04:41 PM

Yeah you just traded for an underachieving bum that will do nothing for your team and you gave up young pitchers for him

Yeah you just traded for an underachieving bum that will do nothing for your team and you gave up young pitchers for him

Yeah young pitchers who will never do anything...wow, that equals shame. I guess getting Jerry Harriston Jr brought you shame.

Has anyone thought this might be a sign of a bigger move on the horizon? Maybe Theo got him to maybe use him as an outfielding prospect so they don't have to give up both Kalish and Reddick in a trade.

I see this as little more than a depth move. They can't possibly be planning on putting Hermida in Bay's place (although they may suggest they're doing exactly that to get leverage in negotiations). Hermida is simply not anywhere near the player even Bay is. He's an adequate 4th outfielder, but replacing Baldelli with him means you need another OF to spell Ellsbury (unless you plan on playing Ellsbury 162 games). Hermida can't really play center, and neither can Bay or Holliday (which I presume would be the targets for LF). I suppose Drew might be able to do it, but I'd hate for that to be anything more than an emergency plan.

I also don't really see how Hermida will be a piece to a bigger trade. As many have pointed out, he doesn't have much value, and he's about to get more expensive. Any team involved with the Red Sox in a blockbuster trade is going to want cheap, controllable pieces in exchange for whoever they're dealing (let's say the Mariners, Brewers, and Padres for now). Setting aside the fact that only the Padres have a space in their outfield for Hermida (I suppose Hermida might be able to play LF for Seattle, but that doesn't seem like such a great plan for them), Hermida's simply not the type of player to be dealt in any kind of big deal. He's a player who needs to reestablish himself, which is not something you look for in a blockbuster trade. I understand picking him up so he can re-build himself as a Red Sox, but he can't possibly have much more value than the two guys the Red Sox traded him for.

Can't say I really care one way or another about this deal. Picking up a new 4th outfielder isn't really big news to me, and anything else just doesn't make sense (for the Red Sox or for their potential trade partners).

-JM

Hermida just isn't a typical Theo Epstein-type player. Relatively low OBP who plays HORRIBLE defense. Makes no sense at all.

I think Boston is just riding on what this guy used to be...

I mean, it wouldn't be too bad if it weren't for the guy's defensive stats.

Even if he somehow "finds it" with the bat, it's less likely he'll gain speed and range.

A 4th OFer should at least be decent defensively.

It's not a back breaking move but when is trading pitching for a 4th OFer ever a solid move? Especially if the guy is a terrible fielder.

@brian91388 No, you shouldn't be ashamed of this trade. But you should be ashamed of getting swept in the first round. Idiot.

On topic, this looks like a cog to a bigger move Theo is working on. By itself, it doesn't make much sense.

Thank you Red Sox for taking him from the Marlins.

Any one else think this may be a precursor to a Felix or Adrian trade? Both teams could a corner outfielder with pop. If this is their replacement for Bay wow. Manny>Bay>Hermida. If theo's computer calculated that one out he should be thrown in the boston harbor along with his computer.

" I don't see how you get two great minor players for a below average hitter."

Dude, you're insane. Alvarez and Jones are AAAA players who might not even be good enough to contribute to the Florida Marlins, and were never going to contribute to the Red Sox.

I'm not saying Hermida is anything, but the Red Sox gave up zero in this deal.

Apparently Jeremy Hermida has an account on MLBTR. =P ---------------------------

lol

Home/road splits are an awful way of judging anything. Truthfully, he probably gets a bit better by not playing half his games in Landshark, but I think at this point he's at best an upside play. I think he is what he is: good patience, little power, and a below average to flat-out poor outfielder (my eyes say poor, stats somewhat differ between themselves).

That being said, I'm happy the Marlins got some parts instead of non-tendering him. I wish him luck.

He doesn't do much to the Red Sox outfield as he isn't the batter needed for LF (Bay or Holliday) and Drew is solid in right. He isn't going to play CF and the Red Sox spent years trying to find a RH Outfielder who could fill in in CF which Baldelli covered and hit well of LH pitching.

To me, this screams more of an overall team feel. He can go in the Outfield, he could DH if Ortiz doesn't produce and I wouldn't be surprised if they gave him a 1B glove either.

Basically a more versitile and more productive Kotchman who won't be back.

Sox resign Baldelli who plays the outfield, have Hermida to also play outfield and 1B, Lowrie who can play SS, 3B and Martinez for C, 1B and they have quite a versitle team.

Then again, they may spin Hermida on.

2010 Red Sox bench outfielder is my guess. I can't see Theo going with Hermida as an everyday outfielder.

Whoever thinks this will be Bay's replacement is dumb. He will be a backup im sure, and red sox didn't give up anything. This could also be a chip in a major trade. We'll see.

Hermida is either plan B if Bay doesn't re-sign, as Abreu was their previous plan B.

If they are able to re-sign Bay, I see Hermida being part of a Halladay trade. There were rumours that the Jays would be interested in signing Hermida if/when the Marlins non-tendered/trade him. Link:

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/10/odds-ends-kikuchi-chapman.html

Now, he could be still end up with the Jays, if only as part of a Halladay trade. According to Heyman, "Some baseball people are speculating that the Red Sox will try even harder to keep up with the Yankees now and make a renewed push to try to acquire star Blue Jays pitcher Roy Halladay. Boston made perhaps the best offer for Halladay last summer (Clay Buchholz, Justin Masterson, Michael Bowden, Nick Hagadone and a positional prospect) and their incentive to improve may be enhanced after the Yankees' championship." Link:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_heyman/11/05/postseason.stars/1.html

With talks of Lind possibly moving to 1B, an OF of Snider-Wells-Hermida could happen. And as a number of posters have already stated, he still has some upside. Let's see what's in store next.

Are you guys ok? I'm mocking your comment Yankee10. EastCoastBias, I was saying that, obviously you have the reading comprehension of Hellen Keller to make the same point I was suggesting, but thinking you were doing it in a mocking way. First of all, I'm never ashamed of what my hometown team does, while I like baseball I don't care enough to make me ashamed as a human being. What would make me ashamed is caring enough about grown men to move me to have such an emotion towards them. I was saying, out of all the things Red Sox fans could be upset about this October/November, you think this trade is it?

Posted by: brian91388 | November 05, 2009 at 05:22 PM

Whoa, easy there Freud. I'm not your shrink, take your emotional baggage elsewhere. My comment was directed towards you not for the ashamed aspect, but for the name calling. You idiot. Had you said your point without the last part, I would have agreed with you, but since you think like an 8 year old, so too is the retort.

"Yeah Im real ashamed. We WON THE DAMN WORLD SERIES!!!"
Correction, you bought the damn world series.

Again, go screw yourself start_wearing_purple. I look like a fool because I posted something, yeah... right.

Red Sox got Hermida for next to nothing. If he puts it all together, awesome. If not, the Sox didn't lose anyone they're going to regret moving. Hermida is only 25 years old. At the cost it took to acquire him and the upside he still possesses, it was more than worthwhile to bring him in.

Rotoworld seems to think the Marlins could have done better.

Hermida's career is off to s slow start but he's still only 25 and the talent is there.

I guess the plan right now is for Hermida to be the 4th OF, and worst-case scenario becomes the starting LF. Reasonable trade for both teams.

Now the Marlins just need to ship Uggla to the Dodgers.....

Posted by: pavilionbum | November 05, 2009 at 05:05 PM

Eff that. Uggla would probly cost the Dodgers at least one of Lindblom, E. Martin, Eovaldi and then one or two other low to middle prospects.

If Uggla can be had a cheap price, sure, go ahead and get him. Otherwise, I'll stick with Dewitt or De Jesus Jr at 2b.

This to me is a non factor trade. I agree with a lot of you that Hermida will just become the back up outseilder. Why are people saying Hunter Jones and Jose Alvarez have potential...? They both are awful. Atleast Hermida did have potention and still is young. He is coming to a hitters ballpark, and deffinetly will get pitches to hit. If there is a winner in this deal it is the Red Sox for getting Hermida for nothing.

Sorry i gotta re-read what I wrote so mant god damn mistakes my bad

Yankees10, still showing great charm and wit... you look like a fool because you're saying foolish things about Sox fans should be ashamed. Now be a good boy and sit in the corner quietly.

Not bad for the Marlins at all. Hermida was going to be non-tendered anyway.

Posted by: drphonic7 | November 05, 2009 at 05:26 PM

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Exactly, how is this bad for the Marlins? This is why they continue to be successful. This is just like (most recently) the Tampa-Pitt trade this week. Aki was going to be a free agent, so why not flip and get something.

These two pitchers may not amount to much but its a risk a team like the Marlins will gladly take.

"God, the Marlins front office has to be the smartest in baseball. I don't see how you get two great minor players for a below average hitter."

Great minor leaguers? Hardly...Alvarez is the 44th ranked prospect in the Sox system, and Jones is the 45th.

http://www.soxprospects.com/players/alvarez-jose.htm

http://www.soxprospects.com/players/jones-hunter.htm

If you consider either of those "great" prospects, then lol.

@Yankee10

Look, you're making yourself look bad. All I can remember is you posting that Melky Cabrera for Brad Hawpe would be a horrible trade...from a Yankee point of view. This is the reason why I hate 95% of Yankee fans, and why I laugh when I hear that Red Sox fans are irrational when they talk about trades, as if it is a Red Sox problem.

Great

Melky for Hawpe would be a horrible trade.

God this thread is like watching a trainwreck in slow motion