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By Tim Dierkes [November 3, 2009 at 5:07pm CST]
Next up in our Trade Market series, center fielders. We discussed free agents at the position here.
- Curtis Granderson, Tigers. Granderson, 29 in March, slipped to .249/.327/.453 in 710 plate appearances this year, but he did hit 30 home runs with 72 walks. David Golebiewski of FanGraphs considers Granderson's slash line misleading. Granderson struggled mightily against lefties; last year's .739 OPS against them was the only decent showing of his career. He's owed $25.75MM for the next three seasons and is well worth it. As far as trade speculation, it stems entirely from Lynn Henning of the Detroit News.
- Cody Ross, Marlins. Ross is here simply because he's an arbitration-eligible Marlins player. He turns 29 in December and is coming off a .270/.321/.469 performance with 24 home runs. He plays center and right field; his defense is hard to judge statistically.
- Aaron Rowand, Giants. We're guessing the Giants wouldn't mind unloading the $36MM owed to Rowand for the next three seasons. The 32-year-old has a limited no-trade clause.
- Gary Matthews Jr., Angels. With two years and $23MM remaining on his contract, Matthews wants a trade and an everyday role. Good luck with that.
- Vernon Wells, Blue Jays. With $107MM coming over the next five years and a full no-trade clause, Wells' brutal contract puts Rowand and Matthews to shame. Hopefully Wells can bounce back in 2010; he's having wrist surgery soon.
- B.J. Upton, Rays. Golebiewski analyzed Upton's struggles this year and wondered if poor health was to blame. The 25-year-old at least continued to play a fine center field. He's arbitration-eligible for the first time, and I'd be surprised to see the Rays sell low on him.
- Jody Gerut, Brewers. Gerut is a non-tender candidate after a .230/.279/.376 showing, but the Brewers may need him if they don't re-sign Mike Cameron.
- Willy Taveras, Reds. Taveras was non-tendered a year ago, and now the Reds may release him with $4MM remaining on his contract.
- Felix Pie, Orioles. The O's may prefer to keep Pie around to see if his scorching August was a sign of things to come. Then again, the 24-year-old may have more value to another team since the O's can use Nolan Reimold in left field and have Adam Jones entrenched in center.
Upton should not be traded. Way too much talent to give up on this quickly.
Posted by: 661dodgerblue | November 03, 2009 at 05:12 PM
I would love to get rid of Taveras. It's painful to watch that guy play everyday. I have never seen so many weak pop-ups in my life.
Posted by: Ethanator99 | November 03, 2009 at 05:16 PM
Oakland might be looking to sell high on Raj Davis too, seeing as Ryan Sweeney is a very capable CF.
Posted by: PL | November 03, 2009 at 05:20 PM
Juan Pierre should be on this list.
Owed 2/18.5, I would think if the Dodgers ate half of that, someone would bite.
Posted by: surfacetear | November 03, 2009 at 05:34 PM
You didn't mention Melky Cabrera why? He must have some value?
Posted by: dan l | November 03, 2009 at 05:37 PM
That list has a lot of 'no thanks' on it.
Posted by: studio179 | November 03, 2009 at 05:41 PM
Juan Pierre should be on this list.
Owed 2/18.5, I would think if the Dodgers ate half of that, someone would bite.
Posted by: surfacetear | November 03, 2009 at 05:34 PM"
If Manny keeps on being Manny in LA, I want Pierre there as the 4th outfielder.
Posted by: 661dodgerblue | November 03, 2009 at 05:41 PM
Asa pure CF, rajai davis might be the best value in terms of contract that might be available. He's already atan elite level in 2 areas:defense/speed. He's signed through 2012 also. The only reason A's might sell high is because ryan sweeney and their depth in corner OF's
Posted by: arly2380 | November 03, 2009 at 05:43 PM
I'm not sure what that means, you think Manny will be suspended again? Even if that is true, Juan Pierre is a black hole offensively. That's $4.5m per year you could save to help bolster 2B, the bench, or SP. X. Paul will give you enough as a 4th OF.
Posted by: surfacetear | November 03, 2009 at 05:45 PM
Granderson, Ross, and Upton should generate alot of interest. I'd probably take Cody Ross, as he seems like a safer bet.
I like Granderson alot, and I'm a big fan of the speed/power combo. However, I'd also like an average of atleast .250 to go along with it.
And of course, BJ Upton and all that up-side.
Posted by: WS2009 | November 03, 2009 at 05:48 PM
I don't think many teams would want Pierre for 9 million dollars over two years if he is a "black hole" on the offensive side.
Posted by: 661dodgerblue | November 03, 2009 at 05:49 PM
That piece on FanGraphs points out some things that have not changed with Granderson. It doesn't mention that his GB% and FB% have gone in opposite directions.
GB% - 40.2% in '08, 29.5% in '09.
FB% - 40.7% in '08, 49.3% (!) in '09.
Add in an IFFB% going from 5% to 13%, and you have Willie Mays Hayes Syndrome.
Posted by: scatterbrian | November 03, 2009 at 05:51 PM
I'll take granderson any day. He had a down year, that's all folks.
Posted by: nick21 | November 03, 2009 at 05:56 PM
I don't think you'll see Pie traded this season. He's still being paid the league minimum, and it's not impossible that he could improve further - if he can post an 800 OPS without significant platoon splits, I'd argue he's more valuable than Riemold (~850 OPS with significantly worse defense).
Even if he doesn't improve, though, he'll see a lot of playing time in LF (with Riemold DHing) and spelling Adam Jones, who isn't the most injury-free player in the world. Considering what he's being paid, there's no reason to think about trading him unless his value improves drastically.
Posted by: ugen64 | November 03, 2009 at 05:57 PM
certain people seem to like Juan Pierre because he's fast, veteran-y, and a hard worker. The fact that with the exception of one incredible month, his OBP was .300 doesn't seem to scare them off.
Posted by: surfacetear | November 03, 2009 at 06:02 PM
Pierre was on the list for Left Fielders because that is where he played the most this year.
Posted by: mrcameronrose.com | November 03, 2009 at 06:13 PM
yea pie aint going anywhere
Posted by: lftyg33 | November 03, 2009 at 06:32 PM
Pierre should be on this list because, despite his terrible arm, he is a plus defensive CF because of his range and sure handedness. Kind of like Grady Sizemore in the field actually.
Posted by: AA | November 03, 2009 at 07:19 PM
Pierre's bat plays better at CF. Manny's suspension and Kemp's dominance is the only reason he played in LF much. I don't see other teams signing him to play LF unless they have bats in CF and RF.
Posted by: surfacetear | November 03, 2009 at 07:42 PM
Pierre's bat plays poorly anywhere unless he maintains the greater patience he showed during his special month this year. Still, a bat almost always plays better in CF, unless you are comparing it to Matt Kemp or Carlos Beltran.
Posted by: AA | November 03, 2009 at 07:47 PM
"and you have Willie Mays Hayes Syndrome."
Posted by: scatterbrian | November 03, 2009 at 05:51 PM
High five for the Major League reference. :)
I'll be the first person to mention Jody Gerut. I don't think he's going anywhere, whether via trade or non-tender. I don't Cameron is coming back, and so we need Gerut as our 2010 center fielder. Now, if Lorenzo Cain makes some crazy run in Triple A during the first half of the season, then Gerut is an option to be traded at the deadline. Other than that, he's staying.
Posted by: Sage | November 03, 2009 at 08:28 PM
Rajai Davis is a prime sell high candidate; his BABIP was .361, 40 points higher than his career average.
Posted by: dregarx | November 03, 2009 at 08:32 PM
Re: Granderson
"As far as trade speculation, it stems entirely from Lynn Henning of the Detroit News."
That means there's nothing there. The single best way to predict what the Tigers will do is to read Henning and bet on the opposite. The guy has absolutely no clue what the Tigers will do. I'm still waiting for Bonderman to be traded for Teixeira.
Posted by: Tigerdog | November 03, 2009 at 08:59 PM
Granderson to angels for mathhews and two minor leaguers www.youactuallybelievedthisforasecond.com
Posted by: chris mlb expert | November 03, 2009 at 09:22 PM
"Granderson to angels for mathhews and two minor leaguers"
Please. The Angels are totally getting screwed, the Tigers have to throw in Porcello.
"Upton should not be traded. Way too much talent to give up on this quickly."
The real problem isn't his potential, it's his execution. He had a major breakout in 07 followed by a massive regression. I think the kid has talent, but really he has enough hype and potential surrounding him that his trade value isn't low. Sell him before he becomes a bust.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | November 03, 2009 at 10:54 PM
"Granderson to angels for mathhews and two minor leaguers"
"Please. The Angels are totally getting screwed, the Tigers have to throw in Porcello".
i love sarcasm!
Posted by: nick21 | November 03, 2009 at 11:10 PM
I am schocked that Grady Sizemore is nowhere on anyone's radar. He is a 5 tool stud who is stuck in the hellwhole of Cleveland. They have trade EVERYONE over the last two years...who is to say he stays long term there...
Send him to the Braves, Yankees, Mets, Red Sox, LA (either one) and he would be ten times more marketable. Reminds me of a younger Derek Jeter in the way he presents himself. No off the field issues and plays the game the right way.
Posted by: mike | November 04, 2009 at 06:52 AM
It's too early for the Tribe to trade Sizemore. They will trade him, just not this offseason.
Posted by: studio179 | November 04, 2009 at 07:36 AM
Interesting that a lot people here think its too early to give up on Upton, but yesterday were throwing Delmon Young under the bus. Young is a year younger, and has a higher lifetime batting average (290 v 266). Different kind of players otherwise as Upton has more speed and is better defensively, Young has better power potential.
Posted by: Redbird | November 04, 2009 at 09:28 AM
Redbird, the problem with you comparing Upton to Young is Upton has shown his potential, Young hasn't.We have seen the great defense, the stolen bases and the high OBP from Upton, we have yet to see the power and run producing ability that Young was suppose to bring.
Posted by: angryredmenace | November 04, 2009 at 01:04 PM
If the NYY bite on Granderson and his $25/3yr contract, Boras can forget pushing a Posada-esq deal for Damon to Cashman.
Posted by: Leftjab | November 11, 2009 at 03:17 PM