A couple of Fish-related tidbits from the land of Dwyane Wade and Dexter Morgan tonight….
- Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald reports that the Marlins have made finding relief pitching a priority over replacing Ross Gload. Jackson mentioned Adam Kennedy and Jeremy Reed as left-handed hitters "mentioned in informal talks" that Florida might be interested in signing once they take care of their bullpen.
- It looks as if Dan Uggla will still be a Marlin when the 2010 season starts, reports Juan C. Rodriguez of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. Rodriguez thinks that if the Fish can't find a trade partner for Uggla, they may shift gears and "start taking calls" about Jorge Cantu. Cantu's ability to place both first and third base makes him an attractive option to teams looking for help at the corners. Could Baltimore be interested? We know they're still in the market for a corner infielder, and the Orioles and Marlins touched base with each other about an Uggla trade earlier this winter.
I love the Dexter reference.
Ditto. Best show ever.
they arent going to get much better of a package then they would for uggla. Possibly Bergesen for Cantu or Clayton Tanner and Brandon Crawford for Cantu
Zippy chance Baltimore is trading Bergesen for Cantu. They like Bergesen a lot and aren’t going to move him for a mediocre stopgap corner infielder. Jorge Cantu pretty much is Ty Wigginton.
Bergesen for Cantu is an absurdly stupid deal for the O’s.
No way Bergesen for Cantu. Not even close.
If the Rangers wanted Lowell, then they’d be in on Cantu. I said earlier maybe David Murphy, Brandon McCarthy, and/or Max Ramirez for Cantu.
I love this idea for the Orioles. Great 4 Hitter. Pulls everything down LF line. 100 RBI man, 20+ HR man. Avg’s 171 Hits, 42-2B’s.. Excellent 1B, 6’3″, could play 3B too. Even has 2B, SS experience. 27 Years old.. Would really polish up the Orioles
Jorge Cantu is not a great hitter at all. He is basically the same exact hitter as Ty Wigginton, whom the O’s already have under contract.
Much better than any FA’s available. Unless Blalock returns to his old self. LaRoche can’t hit the AL East. .220 career average? Nice.
Cantu didn’t lite it up his last couple of years with the Rays either. Would rather see the Fish move Cantu than Uggla though, they have got to have somebody to protect Ross and Ramirez and Cantu is just too streaky.Omazing, Cantu does have a decent 3B glove, his 1B glove isn’t exactly the best, but compared to what Huff had (realize he wasn’t FT 1B) he is a GG guy.Cantu can get on a hot streak and just rake everything, then get ice cold. Sound like somebody else the O’s have?
the O’s wouldn’t want to give up Bergesen though. his downside at this point is something like 4.50 ERA, 150 IP average for the next 5 seasons, which is a lot more valuable than a couple of years of Cantu. I’m guessing a deal based around someone like Troy Patton or David Hernandez is more feasible – not really any more upside than Bergesen, and significantly more unproven.
God will the marlins quit being babies and just trade uggla? I mean Cantu is the better hitter, he fields better, and he came up in the Rays organitzation as a second baseman with power, basically Utley light.
Lol…wow. Cantu is not a better hitter than Uggla, and he does not field better, either.
Are you serious? Uggla can’t see the ball 75 percent of the time, and Cantu can at least hit 260 270 uggla hits like lifetime 250.
Not even close. Utley is a much greater hitter than Cantu. Cantu can’t even play 1B at a decent level, no way he could match Utley at 2B on defense. Not a ton of 2B can.
I wasn’t saying he was like Utley. You are putting words in my mouth. I was saying he can hit when he gets hot.
from the land of dexter morgan haha i love it
NO WAY the O’s ship Bergesen for Jorge Cantu, are you guys all insane? we have stated a million times that we want to grow young arms and BUY bats, not trade young arms for bats. We have Snyder and Bell waiting to come up – why would we trade away a potential ace?
Bergesen is a 23 yr old starting pitcher who has upside and makings of a starting pitcher (i.e. groundball rates, low pitchcounts, etc..). There is no way a regime, who is trying to solve a decade-long problem of lack of pitching, trades away a promising young pitcher to fill a corner infield spot with an average veteran. If you consider that the Os already have strong prospects for those positions, it should remove all doubt.The best the Marlins could hope for is a decent package of prospects to give depth some upside. Bergesen might not be the highest touted rookie pitcher of ’09, but he was surely the most successful of the bunch. Until an opposing hitter knocked him out of the game by smacking a single into his shin bone, he was looking like the best starter of the whole rotation. No way the Os trade him. No way. And if you think it might be possible, no way.
replacement level starter has a 5.50 ERA. so over 150 innings the difference is 15 runs. 15 runs * 5 seasons = 75 runs = 7.5 wins.Cantu’s 3 seasons as a regular, uninjured starter (2005, 2008, 2009) have averaged exactly 2 wins per season. but Cantu is a free agent after next season. 7.5 wins > 2 wins.
EDIT: err my b, the difference is actually ~17 runs, since there are 9 innings in a ballgame lol. so it comes out to more like 8 wins for Bergesen.