Finding Jobs For Aging, Positionless Players

Let’s consider Jermaine Dye. He hit 27 homers last year and played at least 137 games for the sixth consecutive season. But a GM who considered signing the 36-year-old tells Tom Verducci of SI.com that he backed off when he determined that Dye was essentially a DH. 

The GM says "the subjective and objective defensive measurements" mean Dye’s value is considerably lower than it would have been even a few years ago. In other words, Dye's poor defense is going to cost him.
 
Dye isn’t the only one whose value has sunk. It’s no coincidence that old, positionless players like Carlos Delgado, Garret Anderson and Gary Sheffield are still free agents, too. 

Teams want young players who can play defense. One GM says it makes sense for teams to think twice about signing older sluggers.

“With age and defense — and teams have different ways of measuring defense — the information and emphasis is somewhat legitimate,” he said.

Some veterans – Craig Counsell and Omar Vizquel, for example – add value on defense and find jobs. But it's becoming harder for one-dimensional players to do the same.


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Guest
5 years 4 months ago

Dye’s defense is poor, but there are some teams that have that DH spot. The Tigers for example…

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Heliosphan
5 years 4 months ago

That’s the last thing the Tigers need – another aging DH that can’t play defense and won’t show up in the second half..

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LTDm206
5 years 4 months ago

Solution: players unions pushes for NL DH.

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start_wearing_purple
5 years 4 months ago

No. I barely like the DH in the AL. I’d think a better solution would be for the players union to lobby to increase the number of players allowed on the active roster list.

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mojowo11
5 years 4 months ago

Another solution: guys who can’t play on both sides of the ball no longer get to play major league baseball, and more complete players take their jobs.

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LTDm206
5 years 4 months ago

I want the best hitters playing. To me, your solution is the equivalent of adding a starter to your rotation for his ability to hit.

No thanks – let the best pitchers pitch and the best hitters hit.

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mojowo11
5 years 4 months ago

Why even have fielders? Screw it, we’ll just put the best pitchers and hitters out there and we’ll award points based on how far the batters hit it. It’s not like being able to play defense is a central part of the basic structure of the sport of baseball or anything…

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TimotheusATL
5 years 4 months ago

It’s always been funny to me how your team’s best hitter is also the best pitcher…until they’re drafted. Overspecialization of athletes has really kinda broken the spirit of several sports.

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Holy_Roman_Emperor
5 years 4 months ago

The girth of Ray King and Dennys Reyes’ waistline agrees wholeheartedly.

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baronvonmetzger
5 years 4 months ago

It would be like American Football. You could then have 40 roster spots. Awesome

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Guest
5 years 4 months ago

The DH is rubbish.

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humbb
5 years 4 months ago

OMG – I actually agree with a Dodger fan.

Bipartisanship may be in trouble in DC, but it’s alive and well on the West Coast ………..temporarily anyway.

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R_y_a_n
5 years 4 months ago

Noooo

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mickey365
5 years 4 months ago

Yes the DH rule is awful.

Guest
5 years 4 months ago

No its not.

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Guest
5 years 4 months ago

Rubbish!

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mickey365
5 years 4 months ago

Everyone’s entitled to their opinion. But……..yea it is…..NananBoooboo.

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Guest
5 years 4 months ago

Garrett Anderson-Angels
Gary Sheffield-Padres
Jermaine Dye-Tigers
Carlos Delgado-Mets

I don’t think the Mets could do worse than Delgado.

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besttradever
5 years 4 months ago

I think:
Delgado: Blue Jays, 4 million 1 year
Dye: Red Sox, 9.2 million 2 years
Sheffield: Athletics, 1 million 1 year
Anderson: Nats, Minor League
Damon: Reds, 3.5 million 4 years

Damon has had some talks about going to Cincy. Delgado had talks with Toronto. Dye had talks with Clevland,Detroit, Cubs, and little with Reds. Anderson, nowhere for you.

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start_wearing_purple
5 years 4 months ago

Why on earth would the Sox a) sign Dye? b) to a 2 year deal? and c) for $4.6M a year.

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besttradever
5 years 4 months ago

Trade J.D Drew or DH him. Then put put Dye in RF or Dh. Manger’s choice

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$1529282
5 years 4 months ago

Yes. Trade a strong all-around player like Drew to make room for Jermaine Dye, who’s a downgrade defensively, on the basepaths, and probably with the bat too.

And Damon for $3.5MM over four years?

Don’t bother posting if you’re just going to say ridiculous things to start arguments. Find something better to do with your life.

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LTDm206
5 years 4 months ago

What? Why would the Red Sox go through all that trouble. What about Ortiz? Dye would be a defensive and offensive downgrade from Drew/Papi.

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mojowo11
5 years 4 months ago

This is insanity. JD Drew is an excellent right fielder — a good bet to be a 4 WAR player — and bringing in Dye (NEGATIVE WAR two of the last three years) to replace him in any capacity would be a waste of resources.

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R_y_a_n
5 years 4 months ago

Maybe if their GM was an idiot. Drew is greater than Dye as a hitter, and so much superior as a fielder it’s not even funny.

Really dude, Dye for 2 yrs? Teams won’t offer him that. For 4.6 a year? The highest reported offer he’s gotten was 3.3 mil from the Cubs.

No one, I repeat, NO ONE, will give Dye 2 years, or nearly 5 mil in guaranteed money.

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BentoBox
5 years 4 months ago

Seriously now ? If they ever trade Drew, shouldn`t Reddick get the playing time ?

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bjsguess
5 years 4 months ago

If only we had a “Don’t Like” button …

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whitesoxfan424
5 years 4 months ago

Expansion Team… Las Vegas All Stars…

Starting Lineup:
C Barajas / Jose Molina
1B Branyan / Blalock
2B Felipe
SS Nomar
3B Crede
OF Damon
OF Dye
OF Endy Chavez / Baldelli
DH Delgado.

Bench – Darin Erstad, Garrent Anderson, Jacobs, Bonds?

Pitching staff, theres plenty out there.

Heck, it would be one of the best tourist attractions.,..

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whitesoxfan424
5 years 4 months ago

They can buy the Schaumburg Flyers to start their minor league system, I know it’s not that great, but it’ll get better.