Johnny Damon Rumors: Wednesday

11:06pm: Mark Gonzales of the Chicago Tribune hears from a team source who says he can imagine Damon signing with the White Sox. "I think we have a good shot to get him now," the source said.

Another person discounted the importance of Damon's recent golf outing with Pierzynski and Harrelson.

6:26pm: Joe Cowley talks to Pierzynski about the Damon negotiations, and Cowley quotes an unnamed member of the White Sox who says "I would be surprised if [Damon] didn't sign with us.''

4:13pm: Rosenthal tweets that the present-day value of Chicago's offer to Damon is in the $4.5MM range, considering deferrals.  He's hearing that Damon doesn't want to go to the Tigers.  As for Damon's wife's preferences, the player texted to SI's Jon Heyman that "It's up to me.  She's going wherever I go."  Cowley tweets that the Sox "are going from long shots to frontrunners in the Damon sweepstakes the last few hours."

12:02pm: Rosenthal wrote yesterday that "some with the White Sox are confident that a deal with Damon could happen, and believe it might even be close."  Similarly, Joe Cowley of the Chicago Sun-Times writes today that "the White Sox front office is feeling like they may have 'significantly' closed the gap between themselves and Detroit for the free agent's services."  However, Cowley has one source that still considers the Tigers the frontrunner.  Also, Scot Gregor of The Daily Herald believes the Braves are still in the mix.

8:50am: Yesterday we heard from Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports that free agent Johnny Damon played golf Monday with White Sox catcher A.J. Pierzynski and broadcaster Hawk Harrelson.  The Sox remain firm on their initial offer, one that could be slightly above $4MM according to Mark Gonzales of the Chicago TribuneSI's Jon Heyman tweeted this morning that White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf recently got involved in the Damon talks.  Gonzales notes that the White Sox-Scott Boras relationship appears to be thawing, given the Damon talks, the Andruw Jones signing, and the Sox drafting a Boras client in the 16th round of last year's draft.

Meanwhile, Lynn Henning of the Detroit News says the Tigers and Damon "appear to be moving, at less than full speed, toward a deal."  It seems that one of these two clubs will sign Damon, but it's difficult to peg a frontrunner.


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217 Comments on "Johnny Damon Rumors: Wednesday"


BravesRed
5 years 6 months ago

And, I will laugh when he signs with the Braves.

Rich_in_NJ
5 years 6 months ago

I will laugh when he signs for less than the Yankees offered.

Detroitchik
5 years 6 months ago

And the Tigers…

gamehawk
5 years 6 months ago

The braves aren’t going to get Damon, we weren’t able to offer him enough to make it worth his while. I wish we could have, just don’t see it happening unless his wife stands firm on living in a more metropolitan area. Not too mention Atlanta would be quite a bit closer to his home in Orlando. Not counting on him being in Atlanta, be nice though.

5 years 6 months ago

The White Sox drafted a Boras-advised client in the third round of last year’s draft as well – Bryan Morgado, though he didn’t sign.

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/draft/2009/7.shtml

empathizerightonyourbehind
5 years 6 months ago

for a similar financial commitment kansas city got anderson, ankiel, and podsednik. that’s 3 players! which, from what i understand, is always better than one. a team with a lesser GM might have waited around for the market to play out. pat yourself on the back, drayton moore. you’re a genius.

BravesRed
5 years 6 months ago

But, Damon might be better than all of them, combined.

empathizerightonyourbehind
5 years 6 months ago

yeah, that was kinda my point.

BravesRed
5 years 6 months ago

Sorry, I miss read it.

empathizerightonyourbehind
5 years 6 months ago

nah, i really need that sarcasm punctuation mark.

5 years 6 months ago

I am pretty sure he is being sarcastic :)

travelinman4
5 years 6 months ago

If you were offered $7 Million and another team offered you $4 million, which team would you choose? If Damon’s wife is smart they can live west of Detroit and have easier access to Chicago; or, to hope he performs well this year and they can get a better offer in the near future.

mistermonkey
5 years 6 months ago

The problem is, it seems like he thinks both of those offers are underbids — plus he’s already loaded. So if you don’t really need the money, and are great friends with one of the guys on the lower bidding team (Pierzinksy) and you feel like that team has a stronger chance to win now (as the White Sox do, on paper, in 2010), then maybe you’d be willing to sacrifice a few million to be a part of that. That you’d also be keeping your wife happier is a bonus. Personally, I’d go with the money, regardless, but I also know that the Detroit area is actually a great place to live.

foxtown
5 years 6 months ago

Not to mention he has a better chance up putting up inflated numbers at The Cell, increasing his value for next year. If he goes to Comerica Park he will probably have a sharp drop-off in offensive production and no one will want to offer him $2 million, much less $7 million.

dtownwarrior
5 years 6 months ago

He could set a record for triples in that yard with that swing, and Curtis Granderson hit more HR’s than he did playing in Comerica. So the numbers would be about the same.

dtownwarrior
5 years 6 months ago

It is a nice place to live, but dumb broads like Michelle Damon have no clue about it and will just believe whatever her blond ass hears on the news!

andyseiler
5 years 6 months ago

Their Boras-advised pick was actually the 17th round, not the 16th. Brian Goodwin, who’s now at UNC.

windycitywarrior
5 years 6 months ago

I dont see why there couldnt be both Kotsay and Damon on the team. The 9 starters plus Ramon Castro, Omar Vizquel, Andruw Jones, Mark Kotsay. I say trade Jayson Nix or keep him down in the minors. Not sure how many options he may have. They need to win now and they cant be doin that with young inexperienced bench guys like Jayson Nix or Brent Lillibridge. I liked the rotating DH thing because I didnt think the Sox getting Damon was likely or possible. His left handed power he displayed at new Yankee Stadium will most definitely transfer to US Cellular. Has speed and is a legitmate #2 hitter. Sign him up Kenny.

BravesRed
5 years 6 months ago

I don’t know if you read it or not, Damon would be the leadoff hitter on the Braves, Tigers, and ChiSox.

asindc
5 years 6 months ago

Damon would bat 2nd on the Sox. Pierre is the leadoff hitter.

5 years 6 months ago

Damon would definately hit 2nd behind Pierre

lug
5 years 6 months ago

Not sure what it is worth but Jayson Nix is out of options.

cachhubguy
5 years 6 months ago

Nix is out of options.

5 years 6 months ago

In addition to being out of options, Jayson Nix is also out of baseball skills.

jwsox
5 years 6 months ago

not at all 10 hrs 12 sbs in 1/3 of a full season at bats…thats good skills..a secondbasemen(not that bad) who was forced to play ss 3rd and rf and lf

5 years 6 months ago

I like how you ignored his 64 Ks, .224 BA and .308 OBP.

NYBravosFan10
5 years 6 months ago

haha

jwsox
5 years 6 months ago

they could keep damon on the team have the 9 starters have jones, kotsay, nix(need him for speed of the bench), omar, and castro. then you get 11 pitchers (there is no need for more than 11 in the AL…) have the 5 starters, 1 long guy(hudson or torres) the 3 big guys at the end jenks, putz, jenks, williams, and pena and just cut lose with linebrink thats good enough

jwsox
5 years 6 months ago

also for the millionth time on this site and the sox site jayson nix hit 10 hrs and stole 12 bases is literally 1/3 of a season at bats….that should equate to 30 hrs and 30 sbs he would be ideal at dh

foxtown
5 years 6 months ago

So your grand plan is to leave Matt Thornton, one of the most dominant left-handed relievers last year, off the team?

…Will you join my fantasy league?

disgustedcubfan
5 years 6 months ago

I’m not believing this wanting to be in a “more cosmopolitan” city from Damon’s wife.
They already turned down 2 more years in New York City.
Take as much money as you can get Johnny and fly your wife to London or Paris for a few weeks at a time. That’s a win/win situation for both of you.

the_show
5 years 6 months ago

I am not surprised, he would have to live in the suburbs in Detroit where as in Chicago he can have a condo in the city. Considering he has a large house in FLorida my guess is he would want a condo up north.

stymeedone
5 years 6 months ago

just like chicago, there are nice areas in detroit. he can choose to live in suburbs or city of either.

firealyellon
5 years 6 months ago

“just like chicago, there are nice areas in detroit”

just like there are wealthy, fat people in Cuba

5 years 6 months ago

I keep hearing that the Braves still have a chance because their spring training is in Orlando which Damon’s hometown but people forget that Lakeland, the Tigers spring training, is only a half hour from Orlando. Damon drove an hour and half each day to Tampa when with the Yankees so I think the “homefield” advantage of the Braves is over stated. Also the White Sox train in Arizona if that means anything.

NYBravosFan10
5 years 6 months ago

it wouldn’t really surprise me if the Braves ended up doing this because there hasn’t been any talk of them lately…which usually means something might be happening. That’s the way Frank Wren works. He is an expert at keeping the press and twitterers (real word?) in the dark. If you look at any deal the Braves have made since he took over, how many of them had buildup?

tigers22
5 years 6 months ago

The one and only time I’ll ever say this but… go Sox go! Sign him up Kenny… pay him his money, and I hope he has a TERRIBLE season while showing his old age. Meanwhile us Tigers fans can sit here and laugh while we thank God we didn’t sign him

BravesRed
5 years 6 months ago

But, what if he has a good season?

chetkincaid
5 years 6 months ago

Yeah go ahead sit there and laugh at the Sox FROM THE AL CENTRAL BASEMENT if you want. You should sit back and enjoy the view from the cellar with royals and indians fans.

TwinsVet
5 years 6 months ago

That’s a bit juvenile, don’t you think?

The Twins, Tigers, and Sox have dominated the Central for the past decade – of course, I should note the Twins have the most pennants during that time 😉

Worst case, Tigers finish third. And probably a respectable third at that (<10 GB). That's not exactly "the basement".

chetkincaid
5 years 6 months ago

But it’s not juvenile to hope that the Sox sign Damon and he has a terrible season while tigers fans sit and laugh, right? Okay. I think you and the twins will be looking up at The Sox at the end of the season too. Yeah the twins might have won the division crown the most, but who has the ring?

TwinsVet
5 years 6 months ago

I just thought “cellar” was an overstatement. We’ve had great races the last two years… I expect the same this year.

firealyellon
5 years 6 months ago

and exactly zero World Series rings.

danks50
5 years 6 months ago

What exactly has been dominating about Detroit’s 0 Central Division titles and 1 wild card birth over the last decade? Over the last decade the central has been won by the Twins (5) / Sox (3) / Tribe (2). Credit should be given for them making it to the world series however calling them a dominating team over the last 10 years is a reach.

TwinsVet
5 years 6 months ago

That’s fair. Maybe I distorted my recollection based on them being in the hunt the past couple years…

5 years 6 months ago

Technically we’ll be in the cell(ul)ar because we play there.

NYBravosFan10
5 years 6 months ago

You know I used to think that the tri-rivalry between the Mets, Phillies and Braves was fun to watch but I am finding this AL Central thing between the Twins, White Sox and Tigers as rather entertaining

lug
5 years 6 months ago

White sox fan here and I can totally understand why you are saying that. This wife thing and cosmo city…..Give me a break for $14 million put me in the burbs and take a helicopter to work for 2 years. I like Damon but landing him under those circumstances ah just feels sort of funny. Good luck to your Tigers this year.

tigers22
5 years 6 months ago

Thanks man. Good luck to your squad to. Chet, I really don’t think you know what you’re talking about so I won’t waste my time on that comment. The Twins, Sox, and Tigers will battle it out all year. I’ve even seen someone on ESPN pick the Tigers in the top 5 of the entire MLB… just like last year I think we’re underrated, and thats just fine with me.

cachhubguy
5 years 6 months ago

It’s looking more and more like I’m going to be wrong on this one. If he’s golfing with AJ and Hawk……….. you can put it on the board…….yes!

TwinsVet
5 years 6 months ago

HA HA!

I’ve seen alot of Sox home broadcasts. While “he gone” is the ***most annoying strikeout call ever***, the “put it on the boooooooooooard YES!” is pretty awesome. I do love how the broadcast duo has the timing down pat on it too.

Just a shame I hear it against my Twins so often… I much prefer it when you’re helping us out by beating up on Detroit 😉

0vercast
5 years 6 months ago

Yeah I hate that “He Gone!” business, too. But I kinda like the Sox broadcast crew, so I often watch the WGN broadcast when the Twinkies play the Sox.

5 years 6 months ago

I think the Twins and White Sox fans can all agree that the Angels have the worst announcer in the game with Rex.

NYBravosFan10
5 years 6 months ago

I thought it was “Be gone”

NYBravosFan10
5 years 6 months ago

not gonna lie dude that was somewhat of a groaner lol. It’s ok,we all do it. Like this joke I came up with…Why is it always so cold in jewelry stores? Because of all the ice cubes.

stymeedone
5 years 6 months ago

I will continue to hope that the Tigers come to their senses. Nobody is offering as much, and he is hesitating! Put a deadline on the offer. Take it or leave it. He either wants to play in Detroit, or he doesn’t. I am tired of Boras using one team to get a deal somewhere else. Felipe Lopez would be a better fit, be the regular DH, back up at 2b, and 3b, is younger, AND JUST GOT RID OF BORAS AS HIS AGENT. Oh, yeah, he’d probably be cheaper too. That would stick it to Boras.

Ryatt
5 years 6 months ago

It’s quite obvious at this point that he does not want to play in Detroit, unless it becomes the only option. If he had the chance today and the Yanks again offered the 2 yr/14 mil deal, he’d take it in a NY minute. Boras just messed up but thinking he could get him more. Now the options are limited and instead of jumping at the Tigers offer and playing somewhere he’d prefer not to, they are seeing how legit the White Sox interest is and if they can get a deal somewhat on par with the Tigers, then you know where he will go. By Reinsdorf getting involved, you know there are discussions about making a better offer. How far Reinsdorf would go over budget to bring Damon on is purely his decision. A pure guess is that they go to 1 yr/7 mil and Damon is a White Sox by week end. Putting the “cosmopolitan city” argument aside, he can put up much better numbers at the Cell than in CoAmerica and have a much better chance at the post season.

alphabet_soup5
5 years 6 months ago

It’s Comerica, where he has great career numbers. Granted, a lot of them are from the early 2000’s Tiger’s staff. And it’s not a “much better” chance at the post-season. It’s better, but not “much better”.

athletic4ws
5 years 6 months ago

If he is golfing with A J Pierzynski and Harleson, then is is damanged goods. He couldn’t have found to bigger weasels to hang with. I feel sorry for Damon, he’s a good hitter.

danny_duberstein
5 years 6 months ago

did your wife have a threesome with them or something? so much hate.

athletic4ws
5 years 6 months ago

He couldn’t have found 2 bigger weasels to hang out with than AJ & Hawk. He’s a good player, I hope he ends up in Atlanta. I would hate to see him waste away in Detriot or Chicago.

petedicks
5 years 6 months ago

LOL. Ah yes, why go to the middle of nowhere that is Chicago when he can be in Atlanta: City of Tomorrow?

5 years 6 months ago

Why would he waste away.

goodguysJ2E
5 years 6 months ago

I hate to see any good player waste away in Oakland. They are the baseball equivalent of an airplane in a holding pattern.

0vercast
5 years 6 months ago

Nice troll. AJ is only a “weasel” to the fans of his opponents team, nor is Chicago a place to “waste away” in.

the_show
5 years 6 months ago

Question for you, Was AJ disliked by his teammates in Minnesota like he was in San Francisco? For whatever reason he fits in here in Chicago.

0vercast
5 years 6 months ago

No, he was very popular with teammates, fans, and coaches. He was traded because the Giants were willing to give away Joe Nathan and Francisco Liriano for him, and Mauer was waiting in the minors.

soxluv
5 years 6 months ago

San Francisco, yes. Minnesota, not at all. There were extenuating circumstances in SF.

Civilization
5 years 6 months ago

I like the mathematics being displayed here… AJ is only a weasel to the fans of every other team in baseball… Damn every other team’s fans in baseball. AJ’s such a classy guy.

disgustedcubfan
5 years 6 months ago

If Damon spending an afternoon with A.J. and Hawk Harrelson doesn’t send him sprinting for Atlanta or Detroit, nothing will.

billmelton
5 years 6 months ago

Maybe Zambrano will chase him with a Gatorade machine…

DarthVader87
5 years 6 months ago

Well, the more things play out the more it looks like he will be going to Chicago. He’ll fit in there pretty good too. I think his family is what is driving him away from Detroit so much.

goodguysJ2E
5 years 6 months ago

If Damon signs with the Sox I don’t think his family will be the only reason for him picking the ‘Good guys’. He could be the final piece on a championship calibur club. The same cannot be sincerely spoken regarding the Tigers.

rootman1010
5 years 6 months ago

So does this mean the sox trade Pierre? The team would have a lot of corner outfielders if they got Damon including Pierre, Damon, Quentin, jones, kotsay, and rios. A few of them can play center but prolly shoulndnt. That’s a ton of money in those guys too. Would it be Pierre, rios and quentin from left to right with Damon at dh? Jones and kotsay on the bench?

Ryatt
5 years 6 months ago

According to Cowley, the Sox want Damon as their primary DH with spot duty in the OF. Jones and Kotsay would definitely be the backups and and probably get their share of late innings playing time as defensive replacements for Pierre and Quentin. I just wonder if they do acquire Damon, where Ozzie would bat him: 1st, 2nd or 3rd? Would it be a Pierre, Beckham, Damon, Quentin top 4? Or the 2 lefties 1-2? Or move Pierre down to 9? Or would Ozzie get crazy and move Beckham down to 6-7 like he has mentioned to get him more RBI chances? (Ozzie’s words) The kid needs to bat 2 or 3.

rootman1010
5 years 6 months ago

if damon went to the white sox i’ll predict an order like this:

1. Damon dh (wouldn’t that be weird to see a dh leading off)
2. Beckham 2b
3. Quentin rf
4. Konerko 1b
5. Teahen 3b
6. Rios cf
7. Pierzynski c
8. Ramirez ss
9. Pierre lf

or maybe:

1. Pierre lf
2. Beckham 2b
3. Quentin rf
4. Konerko 1b
5. Damon dh
6. Rios cf
7. Teahen 3b
8. Pierzynski c
9. Ramirez ss

what do you guys think?

rootman1010
5 years 6 months ago

maybe even:

1. pierre lf
2. damon dh
3. beckham 2b
4. quentin rf
5. konerko 1b
6. teahen 3b
7. rios cf
8. pierzynski c
9. ramirez ss

5 years 6 months ago

I’ll take a stab at it:

1. Pierre – LF
2. Damon – DH
3. Quentin – RF
4. Konerko – 1B
5. Beckham – 2B
6. Pierzynski – C
7. Rios – CF
8. Teahen – 3B
9. Ramirez – SS

I could see Damon and Beckham switching places.

You have to give the nod to A.J. to be higher in the line up than Teahen and Rios after last year. The line up just looks sooo much better with Damon in it.

5 years 6 months ago

Rios is more than capable to play center and is above average defensively.

Yes it would be Pierre, Rios, Quentin going left to right. Damon would be in the DH spot but would probably rotate regularly with Quentin, Konerko, and perhaps even Pierre just to keep him fresh on the field.

“That’s a ton of money in those guys too.” None of these guys would make over $5MM except Rios if the offer is $4MM like reported. Pierre, Jones, and Kotsay combined would make under $6MM from us.

5 years 6 months ago

Steve Espinosa is a wise man. Words of truth.

the_show
5 years 6 months ago

Reading between the lines I think the Sox are offering Damon somewhere in the range of 5-6. I doubt is as low as 4 considering the Tigers are reportedly offering 7

5 years 6 months ago

Even if it on the high end like you say at $6MM that is still over $1MM less than Mike Cameron got.

the_show
5 years 6 months ago

fair enough, I wasn’t debating your overall point just saying I think we would have to offer more than that to get Damon

mistermonkey
5 years 6 months ago

I JUST WANT THIS OVER WITH. It would be awesome if he ended up on the Yankees after all this nonsense.

5 years 6 months ago

Well, the White Sox front office is confident, you know what that means. He’s signing with the Tigers. Remember when they were confident they had traded for Miguel Cabrera? Seriously though, I hope he signs with the Sox.

soxluv
5 years 6 months ago

No – they knew they never had the prospects for Cabrera. If you used the example of Torii Hunter you would have more credibility.

5 years 6 months ago

NO, they had a deal in place and the Tigers stepped in last minute and upped the ante by taking Dontrelle Willis as well.

lug
5 years 6 months ago

Link that up cause I think your memory is not right. we wanted him, we were never confident.

5 years 6 months ago

I remember Kenny saying during an interview that Dye called him up and asked him what happened and that he thought the deal had already been done. I’ll find a link.

5 years 6 months ago

h ttp://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2007/12/tigers-getting.html

FROM 12-4-07 at 5:01pm:

“This is unexpected. Joe Capozzi says the White Sox “are making a strong push” to acquire Miguel Cabrera. What’s more, some kind of major announcement is coming soon and White Sox sources admitted it involves Cabrera.”

3 minutes later it was reported that the Tigers were nearing the blockbuster deal

h ttp://articles.latimes.com/2007/dec/05/sports/sp-cabrera5?pg=2

“White Sox General Manager Ken Williams, who had hoped to land Cabrera after the Angels swooped in to sign Torii Hunter, learned of the Marlins’ trade via message while meeting with Chicago media Tuesday afternoon. Within one minute, Williams received a call from outfielder Jermaine Dye, who had spurned free agency and re-signed with the White Sox with the promise the team would add a “big fish” in the off-season.”

lug
5 years 6 months ago

Good find…..What is interesting to me is the use of the word “big fish” that could also mean Torii Hunter. Even if Kenny did tell Dye that after the Torii incident A. There are other big fish besides Miguel B. Nothing there says last minute. If the Sox were not going to take Willis then there was never a deal that was to be broken up in the last minute. Also if Dye is making signing decisions before acquisitions are made then his agent is not giving good advice. Nonetheless we did want him but to say that we were confident I am still not sold no matter what the press is spewing. The hype machine is always at work.

alphabet_soup5
5 years 6 months ago

Don’t you get it? “Big Fish”? Marlins!

lug
5 years 6 months ago

btw if you were right, which you are not. “Stepped in last minute” when does this actually happen anyways? When GM’s are discussing and completing deals trust me very few times do we know all of the details with any of these deals. anyways if you were correct no wonder he is in Detroit, Dontrelle has been a complete train wreck. (No pun intended)

soxluv
5 years 6 months ago

You’re half right. The Sox made an offer, but the offer was never seriously considered by the Marlins. And the Sox refused to take Willis.

alphabet_soup5
5 years 6 months ago

In my opinion Cabrera is worth the luggage of Willis. Extending Willis had nothing to do with the trade, but Cabrera is arguably the best right handed hitter in the AL.

baconslayer09
5 years 6 months ago

I remember when the Sox were confident that they signed Torii Hunter.

I’m sure glad that one didn’t happen.

Hopefully, this one does though.

Civilization
5 years 6 months ago

You and me both brother. The Tigers are a day late and a dollar short for a high demand outfielder like Damon. He’s a superstar. Detroit will have to piddle with lowly Ryan Raburn out in left and DH either other anemic corner outfielder on their major league roster.

baconslayer09
5 years 6 months ago

I actually like Raburn a lot.

.900 OPS isn’t lowly. He hit the crap out of the ball in the second half last season.

tigers22
5 years 6 months ago

Haha… you’re out of your mind man. Damon? A superstar? Are you sure we’re talking about the same guy? Arod is a superstar… Damon is not. Look at Raburn’s numbers in limited plate appearances. He needs a full year of plate appearances to put up solid numbers… think Werth. Raburn’s got 25 HR potential man. Cheaper AND younger… I’ll take Raburn any day of the week

Civilization
5 years 6 months ago

The breakdown of Dusty Ryan:

Year – BA OBP SLG OPS
2008 – .318 .380 .500 .880 [50 PAs]
2009 – .154 .267 .192 .459 [30 PAs]

Limited plate appearances are just that. Raburn’s not a bad player, but to say he’ll approach the OPS he put up last season is a stretch and a half. His 2008 season he didn’t even have a .300 OBP. But since you didn’t catch my sarcasm the first time around, I’ll get rid of it.

I’d rather try out Raburn, see what he can do with a full season, then sign Damon to a 2 year deal.