View today's chat transcript with Tim Dierkes below the jump.
MLBTR Live Chat 2-4-10
Tim, Is there anything new that we need to know about Orlando Hudson’s deal with the Twins?
Common sense would say that if there were any news… it’d be on the site. Besides, there’s no deal yet. Hudson’s still considering Cleveland, for some reason, unfortunately. Their offer must be nearly double, or include a player option, or something to make it more enticing.
Not knocking the Indians as an organization, but I think it’d be pretty shocking if they contended this season, where the Twins and White Sox are division favorites.
You and I being Twins fans, I myself would obviously want Hudson to choose us over the Indians…But as you said, The Indians aren’t going to compete and with that said, why spend all that money on a player that isn’t going to make the team that much better. As for the Twins, I would love to have the O-Dawg on our team. He is a tremendous player and one of the top 10 club house guys in Baseball. The best club house guy is obviously on our team already…Jim Thome. Hudson would just make this Twins team so much better. He would also help Denard move around the bases as well. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Twins up 3-0 every 1st inning they play!!
“Does Joba turn it around this year and become a top of the rotation starter? Log 200 IP?”
He’s 4/5 in the rotation right now, what 4/5 starter pitches 200 innings???? Lets use common sense.
depends on the rotation. For example, in the current Dodger rotation, if our 5th starter is Charlie Haeger, he would be asked to pitch ~200 innings over a full season. With the yankees staff, no way Joba pitches 200 innings
That’s a different scenario- Joba has CC, AJ, Javy, and Andy in front of him. Barring major injury they’re not going to NEED him to pitch 200 IP (although he has no cap after going ~160 last year).
yea, thats what I said in my last sentence. I was just saying that it happens in baseball…
The comment about the white sox trading for overbay and downs? That’s really intriguing. What are the contract situations for the two? Maybe a overbay and downs for linebrink and a prospect?
“Maybe a overbay and downs for linebrink and a prospect”
Why trade Downs then?
Both Overbay and Downs are Free Agents after this season. Possibly, Overbay and Downs for Miguel Gonzalez and Daniel Hudson. or Overbay and Downs for Gavin Floyd possibly?
Sacrificing that nice rotation depth…it doesn’t seem like the Sox would give up Hudson or Floyd like that. Blue Jays would make those deals I think.
seems unreasonable to me that you think the jays would simply hand over downs and overbay to save 11MM, when they’ll net the jays at least 2 draft picks at the end of the year. with downs being a lefty, it might be 3 picks.
Understandable Tim, Understandable. I think that the Blue Jays are in a stingy state right now in which most or all of what they need are pitching, and any kind of prospects. I think they’ll be looking for a certain package. You are right, Gavin Floyd is a front line starter in the future. Daniel Hudson on the other hand is projected to be in the 5th spot by default assuming that something happens to Freddy Garcia. I don’t think that the White Sox will be trading their prospects given the fact that their system is empty as it is. I just tried to give some insight to the guy who asked the question.
I’m trying to be realistic here:
Overbay – $7mil (2010)
Downs – $4mil (2010)
Linebrink – $5mil (2010), $5.5mil (2011)
Then maybe the white sox add a couple prospects and $1-3 mil depending on how good the prospects are.
The white sox may bite on this, but the blue jays won’t becaue they’re trying to shed salary, not add some for 2011.
If you think the white sox are going to give hudson or floyd for them, give me a break.
Actually if it makes sense for the Jays, the 2011 payroll could be whatever AA needs it to be, there’s a TON coming off the books after this year and Rogers will support whatever makes sense. By the way, thanks for taking Rios, how’s he doing again? Thanks for helping us shed some payroll…
but the point is…Why trade Downs if you are getting Linebrink in return who is in all fairness…No better or worse than Downs.
I guess the only answer I have to that is that is doesn’t have to be Linebrink; I only said him because the money side was similar.
What I was more getting at was an interesting trade brought up in the chat of Overbay to the White Sox, who could definitely be added to the rotational DH role. It could free up some money for the Jays while adding a prospect or two that probably has as good if not a better chance of making it in the bigs than a draft pick.
Just wondering, Overbay would at best get a Type B status I am thinking, and unless Downs gets a handful of saves and has a good year, he’ll be a Type B at best as well. So I don’t know where you’re (marley) getting 3 draft picks…
Thanks for chatting, Tim.
1B/SS/RF can play 155-160 games if healthy, catchers HAVE to take days off and only play 130-140, so they are roughly losing 80-130 ABs to get to 110 RBIs.
It’s hard for catcher’s to reach enough games to knock in 110 runs. Even if they do play 130+ games, the wear and tear on their body throughout the season makes them more prone to slumps towards the end of the season. Expecting 110 RBIs from Wieters in his 2nd season is what’s illogical.
Generally catchers have to take more days off then any other position player. Say a RF plays 158 games in the season, even a starting catcher might only see 130-140 starts (Mauer had 138 starts last years) to put some perspective on it. That 20 games is about 1/8 of a season. So if a position player was knocking in 110 RBI, the catch might only hit 96.
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